[Linux-users] I gave away my ssh password

://blog.ksplice.com/2010/08/six-things-i-wish-mom-told-me-about-ssh/ or man ssh_config Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] I gave away my ssh password

On Thursday 02 September 2010, Ross Drummond wrote: Create a file, ~/.sss/config and add the following stanza; That should be; ~/.ssh/config Sorry ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman

Re: [Linux-users] Quake

and no visible property damage. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] webcam stuck on 160x120

On Tuesday 05 October 2010, Nick Rout wrote: How do you tell which is connected to where? lsusb -t From the man page; -t Tells lsusb to dump the physical USB device hierarchy as a tree. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] Multi-port network card on Linux

about this card, Linux can be wiped and pfsense installed. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

[Linux-users] Archive of this list

to the University and Mike for providing this resource. Cheers Ross Drummond [2] Mike also provides an archive of the Dunedin Linux Users list. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux

Re: [Linux-users] Printing at UoC from CLI

-a should tell you what printers are available. On a related tangent, when I want to print something from the shell on a postscript printer I pipe the command output to encsript and then pipe that output to lpr. Man enscript for all the gory details. Cheers Ross Drummond On Friday 12 November 2010

Re: [Linux-users] tty1...6 font back to 80x25 and tty-jumping lockups

/etc/TextConfig but not there. (May be associated with some add-on that tweaks the max out of graphics cards.) Try editing /etc/conf.d/consolefont Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http

Re: [Linux-users] corrupted PNG files coming out of cacti/apache

. Test using ftp, once normally and then again after instructing your client to use binary transfer. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] Thunderbird time zone issue

The times should be the same. A good permanent solution is to set up you Linux box to query a Net Time Protocol server. Most ISP's have one, and your computer clock will be very accurate. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] LCA2011 videos ...

, the licenses are all good, mostly CC-BY-SA with a couple of CC-BY-NC in the mix) -jim I'm keen, Chris is as well. What time were you planning to grace us with your appearance? Cheers Ross Drummond PS. Any person attending who can share with me their method for setting up a 6to4 tunnel should have

[Linux-users] To ubsubscribe from mailing list

of the page; http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users Please note that both these methods require the From Address to be the email address which you subscribed to the list on. Cheers Ross Drummond PS It is a statement of the bleedin obvious that it is easier to cancel your old

[Linux-users] The Tux search and rescue squad

flipper. Use SystemRescueCD[1] in either its live CD or bootable USB versions, and follow these instructions for using netcat[2] and tar to do high volume file transfers across a network; http://www.kevinhatfield.org/?p=423 Cheers Ross Drummond [1] http://www.sysresccd.org/ [2] called nc

[Linux-users] CD with videos of keynote speakers from LCA2011 to give away

to the first person who emails me off-list with a postal address. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

[Linux-users] File system on external hard drive

Can anyone recommend a file system for an external hard drive that can used on either XP OSX or Linux Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] paradise passwords

the code so you may need to use the BSD ftp command line program. If it is not installed on your Linux box try a Windows one. All Windows versions I have come across include the BSD client. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] paradise passwords

Google suggests that gftp supports this file. Warning: The netrc file stores your login and password in plain text, so you need to be comfortable with the lack of security in this file. My computer has a man page for the netrc file format. Cheers Ross Drummond

Re: [Linux-users] IPv6 over 6to4 tunnel

On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:40:10 +1200, Col col...@gmail.com wrote: On 15/05/11 11:28, Ross Drummond wrote: I finally succeeded in getting a 6to4 tunnel set up on one of my Linux boxes. Cheers Ross Drummond How well does that configuration score on the ipv6 test? http://test-ipv6.com

Re: [Linux-users] time stamp in bash script

On Tue, 24 May 2011, Jim Cheetham and others wrote: Discussion about time taken for a process. You guys are reinventing the wheel. Go to; http://directory.fsf.org/project/time/ Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] time stamp in bash script

On Tue, 24 May 2011, Ross Drummond wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2011, Jim Cheetham and others wrote: Discussion about time taken for a process. You guys are reinventing the wheel. Go to; http://directory.fsf.org/project/time/ Cheers Ross Drummond

[Linux-users] World IPv6 day tomorrow

Tomorrow Wed 8th June is world Ipv6 day. Anybody doing anything to participate in this event? Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] pfsense on Alix board

away (complete with 2 NIC's and IPCop working. Can you elaborate what hardware you are running PfSense on? Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

[Linux-users] Renewal of CLUG domain registration

management solutions from premises located in Christchurch. Subscribers to this list contemplating using the services provided by Discount Domains or Digiweb are requested to give them their favourable consideration. Cheers Ross Drummond [1] http://www.discountdomains.co.nz [2] http

Re: [Linux-users] Changing the resolution on PDF's

you get on. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

[Linux-users] Piping sound around a network

a network? Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] Pet Peeve

? Cheers Ross Drummond On Sat, 26 Nov 2011, Nick Rout wrote: LOL it makes you wonder how these people get trained (or not). I often feel like interrupting when I hear shop assistants talking to complete strangers. However the few times I have, it leads to a whole afternoon of discussion, I just

Re: [Linux-users] Is anyone out there?

On Thu, 01 Mar 2012, Nick Rout wrote: Is this list still around? me+ Off topic observation: As a *nix command line user I find myself in difficulty when using Windows PowerShell. cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] Eee PC video fail

controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 1252 As you can see I have the i915 kernel module loaded. Cheers Ross Drummond PS Excellent choice of PC. I like mine for its low real estate

Re: [Linux-users] help with wget / curl to download a site that includes images stored on Amazon S3?

://paleosummit.com Any suggestions on how to use wget or curl to download the images stored on Amazon S3 with links updated for local storage / viewing? Thanks! Please refer to the following options in the wget man page; --convert-links --page-requisites Cheers Ross Drummond

Re: [Linux-users] A new acronym to hate: UEFI

this partition will most likely brick your computer Chers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] A new acronym to hate: UEFI

on the actual architecture to boot (\EFI\BOOT\boot[architecture name].efi). Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] A new acronym to hate: UEFI

hate them. Some motherboards have the option of enabling legacy boot mode which I understand means old style MBR boot loading. Check your bios set up munu or motherboard documentation. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] A new acronym to hate: UEFI

a system recovery disc for the computer in Windows somewhwhere. Warning: The system recovery disc will probably harm your Linux installation if you are dual booting. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz

[Linux-users] UEFI v Coreboot

://www.coreboot.org/Welcome_to_coreboot There seems to be plenty of choices in their motherboard compatability list Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

[Linux-users] Android applications

Are there any experienced Android developers on this list? I am looking into commisioning the development of an in-house app for a business. No problems paying for this. Please contact me off list. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list

[Linux-users] Renewal of CLUG domain registration - A thanks to our sponsor

and email management solutions from premises located in Christchurch. Subscribers to this list contemplating using the services provided by Discount Domains or Digiweb are requested to give them their favourable consideration. Cheers Ross Drummond [1] http://www.discountdomains.co.nz [2] http

Re: [Linux-users] Error copying large file to ntfs formatted usb drive?

' : Input/output error. Only a suggestion but why not try this from a terminal usin cp with the -v or--verbose option enabled to see if you get more informative error output. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] WAS Chit chat Re: Testing List - please delete NOW Evolution connection

Maybe this will help; https://live.gnome.org/Evolution/FAQ#Why_is_Evolution_offline_when_my_net_connection_is_working.3F On Thu, 11 Oct 2012, chris wrote: Which is my issue. I am on dial up, and I cannot get Evolution to go on line at all. As you say areal PITA. Also my tux skills are not

[Linux-users] Wicked data centre news item and images

Go to; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2219188/Inside-internet-Google-gives-unique-look-inside-vast-data-centres-power-online-world.html Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http

[Linux-users] Draytek Vigor WAS ADSL wrt recommendations

have been forced the rely on an early vanilla Dick Smith ADSL modem that I brought second hand from Nick Rout. I am in a Chorus area for fibre roll-out. On the Chorus web site the deployment map puts me in a we will get around to you eventually area. Cheers Ross Drummond

Re: [Linux-users] wifi advice sought

. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] wifi woes

that are down. Chers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] There are none so blind as cannot see...

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Re: [Linux-users] DSL Modems and rural lines

and hangs. It worked fine in other locations where I connected it. I had to revert to the previous old Dick Smith modem. My advise would be to ask arround for discarded old modems that you can borrow to test. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing

Re: [Linux-users] Ubuntu 13.04 M/B suggestions?

that your problems are most likely hardware based given the machines other issues but does using the nouveau open source driver rather than the closed nvidia drivers give a different result. A look through /va r/log/Xorg-*.log may be usefull. Cheers Ross Drummond

Re: [Linux-users] Ubuntu 13.04 M/B suggestions?

On Thu, 30 May 2013, Ross Drummond wrote: A look through /var/log/Xorg-*.log may be usefull. Cheers Ross Drummond Drat! gremlins, should be; /var/log/Xorg.*.log Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

[Linux-users] Job opoutunity for C Sawtel?

in the corner of his room. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

[Linux-users] Renewal of CLUG domain registration - A thanks to our sponsor

contemplating using the services provided by Discount Domains or Digiweb are requested to give them their favourable consideration. Cheers Ross Drummond [1] http://www.discountdomains.co.nz [2] http://www.digiweb.co.nz ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] Email client - OUTCOME

Thank you to those who offered advice. I took the procrastinate option. I masked recent versions Kmail and installed an older known-good version(1.13.7). Unless Kmail stabilises I have only put off the day of reckoning. Cheers Ross Drummond On Fri, 06 Sep 2013, Ross Drummond wrote: I am

[Linux-users] Top posting

text in the reply had taken up all the screen, the text of my reply needed to be flicked up to be read. To avoid a repeat of this I am now using top posting. DISCUSS Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http

[Linux-users] Flakey VDSL modem; Was Telstra cable connections in Chch

Is the cause unstable mains power at your house with micro outages making the modem reboot? Do you notice light fliker? Does running it off a backup power supply make any diference? Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] House / Garage ethernet wiring

. It was likely over time for your conduit to become water logged and it was inevitable your cable would be damaged by small nicks during installation. Gel would prevent any moisture entering these small nicks from travelling along inside the outer sheath of the cable to a weak spot. Cheers Ross

Re: [Linux-users] This drives me mad!

Someone with at least five years experience in Windows Server 2012 would be a shoo-in for that job. Visualising those in the recruitment industry as gibbering baboons helps you mentally prepare for dealing with them. Cheers Ross Drummond On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, Steve Holdoway wrote: TM Ad today

[Linux-users] IPv6 address method

of using the computer interfaces MAC address. Craig, howdya du dat? Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

[Linux-users] Kile on live DVD

I want a live DVD with the KDE program Kile which is an integrated development environment for creating LaTeX documents. Does anyone know of a live DVD(or CD) with Kile? Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] Kile on live DVD

I have found the live DVD with the Kile LaTeX IDE on it. It is one of the Fedora Spin series. https://spins.fedoraproject.org/scientific-kde/ Cheers Ross Drummond On Tue, 02 Sep 2014 18:06:07 +1200 Ross Drummond r...@ashburton.co.nz wrote: I want a live DVD with the KDE program Kile which

[Linux-users] Live DVD Macbook

I am trying to get a Linux live DVD to boot on an Apple Mac Book. The suggestions made by Google do not work. Any hints? Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman

Re: [Linux-users] IPv6

On Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:59:24 +1300 C. Falconer cfalco...@totalteam.co.nz wrote: Stuff about IPV6 Top tip, when using ssh over IPV6 on a LAN you need to specify the interface, like; ssh -6 fe80::3b9c:xxx:xxx:xxx%eth0 Cheers Ross Drummond

Re: [Linux-users] Printing over ipv6

I need a favour. Can someone who has a Mac or a Macbook and prints to a network printer using IPV6 bust open the /etc/cups/printers.conf file and tell me what DeviceURI line in the file looks like. Cheers Ross Drummond On Sun, 01 Mar 2015 21:54:26 +1300 Chris Hellyar ch...@trash.co.nz wrote

[Linux-users] OFF TOPIC IOS developer

Is there an iOS app developer on the list, or alternatively a recommendation you can pass on? The app will take user input and behind the scenes perform date arithmetic and floating point calculations. This is a paid gig. Please contact me off list. Cheers Ross Drummond Relevance to Linux

Re: [Linux-users] Trouble with Wireless internet under GNU/Linux

that appears select the partition you wish to resize. Right click and a resize option will appear in the right click menu. Cheers Ross Drummond On Fri, 08 May 2015 15:25:18 +1200 Davin Pearson davin.pear...@gmail.com wrote: Which flavour of GNU/Linux supports resizing Windows partitions. I am familiar

Re: [Linux-users] setting the root password

to enter a password and the confirm it. You should the be able to change you login to root by issuing the su (switch user) command. Be aware this an off label method for Ubuntu, you should prefer the sudo method when doing stuff that requires root. Cheers Ross Drummond On Sun, 09 Aug 2015 16:28:27

Re: [Linux-users] Permissions: root access but can't write to file?

On Tue, 13 Oct 2015 17:21:31 +1300 Eliot Blennerhassett <ewb...@gmail.com> wrote: >Thread about controling fan speed on Netgear NAS. Does the file /etc/sysctl.conf exist and does it contain any of the values you were trying to write in your file? Cheers Ross

Re: [Linux-users] How do you partition disks bigger than 2 terabyte?

http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/fdisk-unable-to-create-partition-greater-2tb.html On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 23:05:23 +1200 Julian Visch wrote: > Bought myself a 4 terabyte hard drive and discovered that partition > tools seem to stop at 2 terabyte, any way I can get the rest of

[Linux-users] Forwarding gui applications over LAN using X - problems

ving into the depths of the freedesktop.org mail archives I discovered that you need need to explicitly append the following to the exec line to get network transparency working; -listen TCP Posted to the list so you do not have to repeat my pain. Cheers Ross Drummond PS The approved way of forwardin

[Linux-users] CLUG domain and web site

rmits" basis but probably in two weeks time. There has been discussion on the list about reimbursing me the fees that I have paid for the renewal of domain registration I do not want to be paid. I was happy to pay it and don't want to to be reimbursed. Cheers Ros

Re: [Linux-users] Dealing with M$ "GPT protected partition"

What about using the diskpart shell that comes with XP to create your ntfs partition then trying to find out if your Linux operating system can use it. Lots of help on Google about using diskpart. Cheers Ross Drummond On 28.02.2016 12:50, Peter Simmonds wrote: > stuff about creating n

Re: [Linux-users] Data cable

I am trying to avoid cable spaghetti under desks and in cabinets. You suggestion that the most economic solution is to buy patch leads and chop them to length sounds good to me. Cheers Ross Drummond On 06.03.2016 14:45, Volker Kuhlmann wrote: > On Sun 06 Mar 2016 13:45:34 NZDT +1300, R

[Linux-users] Data cable

is willing to sell lengths of coloured cable without requiring the purchase of a whole box? Cheers Ross Drummond (1)Or online. ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

[Linux-users] Best laTeX tool Was: Document generation

is if you have the output DVI file open in Okular it will automaticly update your changes. I use the article document class and Kile as a tool to generate customer contracts. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] Horse

I use horse occasionally to run a script. Horse is the only publicly accessible ssh server I can connect to. Bonus I can connect over IPV6. I have been in the process of porting the script over to Windows PowerShell. This will prompt me to get a move on. Cheers Ross Drummond On Sat, 06 Aug

[Linux-users] Joining Horse

in the help file; Help --> Contents --> Using public keys for SSH authentication --> Using PuTTYgen the PuTTY key generator --> Dealing with private keys in other formats. Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list

Re: [Linux-users] Joining Horse

Replying to my own post. You do not have to repeat this process for every Windows box. Once you have done the key file conversion process you can copy the correctly formatted file to your other Windows boxes. Cheers Ross Drummond On Mon, 08 Aug 2016 12:02:01 +1200 Ross Drummond &l

Re: [Linux-users] startup woes

? Is the tool grub-mkconfig avaliable? if so run 'grub-mkconfig -o test.txt' them examine test.txt to see if it has worked as you intend. https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Grub2-efi_and_Mageia Cheers Ross Drummond On 23.01.2017 19:36, Barry wrote: > Hi All, the heading understates my problem - I

[Linux-users] Be a Linux secret squirrel

. Unfortunately it seems like a work in basement rather than walking into a casino and ordering a Martini, shaken not stirred, type of job. Go to; https://www.nzic.govt.nz/beyondordinary/vacancies Choose GCSB from the agency search box Cheers from someone who can neither confirm or deny he is Ross Drummond

[Linux-users] Discovery of global IPv6 address

hod of discovering the Ipv6 global address of a host on your LAN? Cheers Ross Drummond ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux-users@lists.canterbury.ac.nz http://lists.canterbury.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/linux-users

Re: [Linux-users] Funny X behavour

The Xorg log file is a good place to start looking for problems /var/log/Xorg.0.log Cheers Ross Drummond On 09.05.2017 16:32, Barry wrote: > Barry asking about X errors. > > Barry > > ___ > Linux-users mailing

Re: [Linux-users] Dual booting on modern computers with linux and windows 10 with uefi

... (Orin Thomas) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58-uo7Hd2cU=112=PLz6RgUKX11CWgU0IfWRYgl37ZNJv1e9uG Cheers Ross Drummond PS. It doesn't end there, Microsoft are talking about adding an openSSH client in PowerShell. On Sat, 27 May 2017 15:55:50 +1200 j.vi...@snap.net.nz wrote: > > &g

Re: [Linux-users] Horse

I have a bash script installed on Horse that I sometimes need access to when I am out and about. Also useful in testing which ports are open on your world network interface. Cheers Ross Drummond On Wed, 30 Aug 2017 11:09:23 +1200 Robert Fisher <rob...@fisher.net.nz> wrote: > I

[Linux-users] LaTeX on Windows - recommendations

I want recommendation for an editor - IDE for LaTeX on Windows. In Linux I use Kile along with Okular. Okular has this great feature where it automaticly updates the DVI when it is changed. It would be great if such a feature was available on the other OS. Cheers Ross Drummond

Re: [Linux-users] Tickets now available!

I've booked my ticket. I look forward to meeting many old GLUGers who attend. Cheers Ross Drummond On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 14:08:18 +1300 Steven Sykes wrote: > The linux.conf.au 2019 team are pleased to announce that Early Bird > tickets are now available! > > Early

Re: [Linux-users] please SUBSCRIBE me to this mailing list

If your email post is not rejected by the list server you must already be a subscriber to the list. The link to the list info page may help you. Cheers Ross Drummond On 11.11.2019 06:57, Davin Pearson wrote: > -- > > Sincerely and kindest regards, Davin. > Davin Pearson

[Linux-users] Can Linux help me win Lotto?

the odds a little bit. Remember the more you gamble the arithmetic grinds you into dust. -- +--+ | Ross Drummond| +--+ + 03 3086190 + | 027 231 3013 | + r...@ashburton.co.nz

[Linux-users] Free printer

Please note I live in Ashburton. Cheers Ross -- +--+ | Ross Drummond| +--+ + 03 3086190 + | 027 231 3013 | + r...@ashburton.co.nz + +--+ ___ Linux-users mailing list Linux