Re: [WSG] Son of Suckerfish - right to left

2006-09-21 Thread Ido Dekkers
Andrew Cunningham wrote: Dear Ido If you want to mark up a whole page as RTL, you should put the dir attibute on the HTML element and not on the BODY element. The W3C'S Internationalization Best Practices recommends adding dir=rtl to the html tag any time the overall document direction is

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
IE7 handles transparent PNGs, and IE5.5 and 6 can use a proprietary filter to display them correctly. Issue with the filter is that it can't be applied to tiled background. The stats I have (massive europe-wide company dealing directly with all types of consumer) is that IE5 is below 0.1%,

[WSG] z-index with ie

2006-09-21 Thread Able Net Design
Hi, I'm playing with z-index's for a site I am buildings. In FF there is not a problem the site looks exactly how I would expect it to look but when you view it in IE nothing is right. div#header {background: #ff; height: 80px; position: static; z-index:1;}div#header img {position:

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/21/06, Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: IE7 handles transparent PNGs, and IE5.5 and 6 can use a proprietary filter to display them correctly. Issue with the filter is that it can't be applied to tiled background. Works fine on my site.

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Issue with the filter is that it can't be applied to tiled background. Works fine on my site. Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net ***

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/21/06, Jan Brasna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. Sorry, thought you meant PNGs placed on top of a tiled background. *** List Guidelines:

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
I've had significant, if not too much experience with IE7 and transparent png behaviors. http://last-child.com/index.php?s=ie7+transparent+png Here's what I would suggest. IE6 is going to become a minor player for the majority of web sites within a year. Microsoft has an aggressive schedule

RE: [WSG] z-index with ie

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
IE6 and z-index issues are enough to make Fabio go bald. IE6 looks not only at the z-index of bob and sue but the z-index of their parents. Does that make sense? If you want bob to sit on top of sue, Bobs parent container needs to have a higher z-index than sues parents. It

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
! -[if IE 7] link href=/css/ie7.css type=text/css rel=stylesheet media=all/ ![endif]- ! -[if lte IE 6] link href=/css/ie6.css type=text/css rel=stylesheet media=all/ ![endif]- I'd go for the option of one IE-stylesheet with separating the browsers inside (direct selectors for IE7-specific

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
No no no no no Don't use * html! That won't work. If you need to separate the browsers, use *border and _border on the individual styles. Ted -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Brasna Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 21 Sep 2006, at 17:55, Ted Drake wrote: No no no no no Don't use * html! That won't work. * html will work to separate IE6 rules from IE7 rules, as IE7 no longer understands it (given that it's parsing in strict mode). See http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/09/02/460115.aspx

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Don't use * html! That won't work. How comes? You maybe didn't understand what I meant. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelines:

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. Sorry, thought you meant PNGs placed on top of a tiled background. Yup, I thought so ;) The issue is when you'd need the actual transparent background to repeat, then you can't use the filter. It would be handy in various

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style sheet. However, it is a bad idea to use it in general. There are a lot of sites breaking because people depended on *html, many I've built included. When I see someone suggest using it, my gut reaction is to say, no. Don't use

[WSG] WIPA

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Brown
Good stuff Russ et al! for once we might even have to admit the Aussies have done it better. Compare and contrast WIPA http://www.wipa.org.au/ Web Developers Association of New Zealand http://www.wdanz.co.nz/ Mike *** List

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread John Faulds - Tyssen Design
Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style sheet. I've been doing that a bit lately as sometimes there may be only one or two rules that are different between = 6 or 7 and it doesn't seem worth the effort creating a separate stylesheet for both and then conditional

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
I would still advise that you use the *property/_property hack instead of * html. I don't have anything to point to other than some discussions with the IE7 folks and it's what they recommend. Well, they're not going to recommend any hacking. But they downplay * html. I'd prefer to go with

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Who knows what future problems may come with *html? Future problems when targeting back to particular (dead) browsers do not bother me. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List

[WSG] Site check: lot's of space where there shouldn't be any

2006-09-21 Thread Taco Fleur
Title: Website design - Pacific Fox Good morning all, We have a page that is displaying an enormous amount of white where there shouldn't be any. I validated the page

Re: [WSG] Site check: lot's of space where there shouldn't be any

2006-09-21 Thread John Faulds - Tyssen Design
It's the clear: both on the 'Cylinder Heads' h2 which is causing the problem. On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:41:17 +1000, Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good morning all, We have a page that is displaying an enormous amount of white where there shouldn't be any. I validated the page

Re: [WSG] Site check: lot's of space where there shouldn't be any

2006-09-21 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Taco Fleur wrote: Good morning all, We have a page that is displaying an enormous amount of white where there shouldn't be any. I validated the page http://development.yellaterra.com.au:92/products/car-performance/product-detail/index.cfm?productCategoryIdentity=2modelIdentity=2

[WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-21 Thread Samuel Richardson
An interesting bug this one, open up: http://www.intrepidtravel.com/ In Firefox. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on one of the country links, you'll notice that just after the click the content of that area jumps down. I thought it might have been something to do with line-heights

Re: [WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-21 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Samuel Richardson wrote: An interesting bug this one, open up: http://www.intrepidtravel.com/ In Firefox. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on one of the country links, you'll notice that just after the click the content of that area jumps down. I thought it might have been

Re: [WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-21 Thread John Faulds
Try adding line-height: 0.8em to ul#interlinks li. On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:45:02 +1000, Samuel Richardson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An interesting bug this one, open up: http://www.intrepidtravel.com/ In Firefox. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on one of the country links,

RE: [WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-21 Thread Samuel Richardson
Spot on, that's worked a treat. My understanding of the outline rule was that it would place an outline around an element without affecting the box model (as opposed to a border which will contribute to the width the element). Interesting none the less, thanks for that. Samuel -Original

RE: [WSG] Site check: lot's of space where there shouldn't be any

2006-09-21 Thread Taco Fleur
Thanks guys, that fixed it... Although I don't understand the physics of it ;-) Yes, we still need to preload the images. Thanks for the reminder Kind regards, Taco Fleur free call 1800 032 982 - fax 07 3414 6464, international +61 7 3325 5103 www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with