RE: [WSG] Site check: lot's of space where there shouldn't be any

2006-09-21 Thread Taco Fleur
Thanks guys, that fixed it... Although I don't understand the physics of it ;-) Yes, we still need to preload the images. Thanks for the reminder Kind regards, Taco Fleur free call 1800 032 982 - fax 07 3414 6464, international +61 7 3325 5103 www.pacificfox.com.au an industry leader with com

RE: [WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-21 Thread Samuel Richardson
Spot on, that's worked a treat. My understanding of the outline rule was that it would place an outline around an element without affecting the box model (as opposed to a border which will contribute to the width the element). Interesting none the less, thanks for that. Samuel -Original Mess

Re: [WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-21 Thread John Faulds
Try adding line-height: 0.8em to ul#interlinks li. On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:45:02 +1000, Samuel Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An interesting bug this one, open up: http://www.intrepidtravel.com/ In Firefox. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on one of the country links, yo

Re: [WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-21 Thread Rahul Gonsalves
Samuel Richardson wrote: An interesting bug this one, open up: http://www.intrepidtravel.com/ In Firefox. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on one of the country links, you'll notice that just after the click the content of that area "jumps" down. I thought it might have been somethi

[WSG] Content Jumps onClick in Firefox

2006-09-21 Thread Samuel Richardson
An interesting bug this one, open up: http://www.intrepidtravel.com/ In Firefox. Scroll to the bottom of the page and click on one of the country links, you'll notice that just after the click the content of that area "jumps" down. I thought it might have been something to do with line-heights

Re: [WSG] Site check: lot's of space where there shouldn't be any

2006-09-21 Thread Joseph R. B. Taylor
Taco Fleur wrote: Good morning all, We have a page that is displaying an enormous amount of white where there shouldn't be any. I validated the page http://development.yellaterra.com.au:92/products/car-performance/product-detail/index.cfm?productCategoryIdentity=2&modelIdentity=2

Re: [WSG] Site check: lot's of space where there shouldn't be any

2006-09-21 Thread John Faulds - Tyssen Design
It's the clear: both on the 'Cylinder Heads' h2 which is causing the problem. On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:41:17 +1000, Taco Fleur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Good morning all, We have a page that is displaying an enormous amount of white where there shouldn't be any. I validated the page http://

[WSG] Site check: lot's of space where there shouldn't be any

2006-09-21 Thread Taco Fleur
Title: Website design - Pacific Fox Good morning all,   We have a page that is displaying an enormous amount of white where there shouldn't be any. I validated the page http://development.yellaterra.com.au:92/products/car-performance/product-detail/index.cfm?productCategoryIdentity=2&modelIden

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Who knows what future problems may come with *html? Future problems when targeting back to particular (dead) browsers do not bother me. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelin

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
I would still advise that you use the *property/_property hack instead of * html. I don't have anything to point to other than some discussions with the IE7 folks and it's what they recommend. Well, they're not going to recommend any hacking. But they downplay * html. I'd prefer to go with some

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread John Faulds - Tyssen Design
Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style sheet. I've been doing that a bit lately as sometimes there may be only one or two rules that are different between <= 6 or 7 and it doesn't seem worth the effort creating a separate stylesheet for both and then conditional

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style sheet. That is what I was writing about. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.

[WSG] WIPA

2006-09-21 Thread Mike Brown
Good stuff Russ et al! for once we might even have to admit the Aussies have done it better. Compare and contrast WIPA Web Developers Association of New Zealand Mike *** List

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style sheet. However, it is a bad idea to use it in general. There are a lot of sites breaking because people depended on *html, many I've built included. When I see someone suggest using it, my gut reaction is to say, no. Don't use *h

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. Sorry, thought you meant PNGs placed on top of a tiled background. Yup, I thought so ;) The issue is when you'd need the actual transparent background to repeat, then you can't use the filter. It would be handy in various stretching/collap

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Don't use * html! That won't work. How comes? You maybe didn't understand what I meant. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.c

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Nick Fitzsimons
On 21 Sep 2006, at 17:55, Ted Drake wrote: No no no no no Don't use * html! That won't work. * html will work to separate IE6 rules from IE7 rules, as IE7 no longer understands it (given that it's parsing in strict mode). See Rega

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
No no no no no Don't use * html! That won't work. If you need to separate the browsers, use *border and _border on the individual styles. Ted -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Brasna Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 9:

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna

RE: [WSG] z-index with ie

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
IE6 and z-index issues are enough to make Fabio go bald.   IE6 looks not only at the z-index of bob and sue but the z-index of their parents. Does that make sense?   If you want bob to sit on top of sue, Bob’s parent container needs to have a higher z-index than sue’s parents.   It be

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Ted Drake
I've had significant, if not too much experience with IE7 and transparent png behaviors. http://last-child.com/index.php?s=ie7+transparent+png Here's what I would suggest. IE6 is going to become a minor player for the majority of web sites within a year. Microsoft has an aggressive schedule p

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/21/06, Jan Brasna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. Sorry, thought you meant PNGs placed on top of a tiled background. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guid

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Jan Brasna
Issue with the filter is that it can't be applied to tiled background. Works fine on my site. Neither #header nor a#logo have *tiled* backgrounds. -- Jan Brasna :: www.alphanumeric.cz | www.janbrasna.com | www.wdnews.net *** Li

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Doug Wigginton
In my CSS book, the author speaks about handling this issue by providing alternate images in GIF format for IE browsers and specifying these in a supplemental IE-targeted style sheet. The gif images might represent a slightly degraded design, but the idea is that the site is still workable.   There

Re: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

2006-09-21 Thread Matthew Pennell
On 9/21/06, Jan Brasna <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > IE7 handles transparent PNGs, and IE5.5 and 6 can use a proprietary > filter to display them correctly. Issue with the filter is that it can't be applied to tiled background. Works fine on my site. *

[WSG Announce] Introducing the Web Industry Professionals Association (WIPA)

2006-09-21 Thread russ - maxdesign
This is a one-way list for WSG Announcements This email will cover: - Introducing the Web Industry Professionals Association Incorporated (WIPA) - What is WIPA? - Who is WIPA for? - Aren't there already enough Web Associations in Australia? - Does it co

[WSG] z-index with ie

2006-09-21 Thread Able Net Design
Hi,   I'm playing with z-index's for a site I am buildings. In FF there is not a problem the site looks exactly how I would expect it to look but when you view it in IE nothing is right.   div#header {background: #ff; height: 80px; position: static; z-index:1;}div#header img {position: re