RE: [WSG] best way to style the Tags?

This is what we used on yahoo tech. it's not the most semantic, but it gave us the flexibility we needed and is easy to use ul class=yttagcloud lia href=/rc/camcorders/113 class=tcknightCamcorders/a/li lia href=/rc/car-tech/114 class=tcserfCar Tech/a/li lia href=/rc/cell-phones/101

RE: [WSG] IE6 - IE7

I don't get the paranoia. IE7 is much more secure than IE6. If you don't like IE7, you can simply uninstall it and ie6 is restored after a reboot. As a web dev, you need to install IE7 and test your sites. Ignoring it isn't going to help your web development. Ted -Original Message-

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

pink;). Ted Drake www.last-child.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***

RE: [WSG] z-index with ie

IE6 and z-index issues are enough to make Fabio go bald. IE6 looks not only at the z-index of bob and sue but the z-index of their parents. Does that make sense? If you want bob to sit on top of sue, Bobs parent container needs to have a higher z-index than sues parents. It

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

No no no no no Don't use * html! That won't work. If you need to separate the browsers, use *border and _border on the individual styles. Ted -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Brasna Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

Technically, I can see you using the * html inside an IE only style sheet. However, it is a bad idea to use it in general. There are a lot of sites breaking because people depended on *html, many I've built included. When I see someone suggest using it, my gut reaction is to say, no. Don't use

RE: [WSG] What version of IE should be build to

I would still advise that you use the *property/_property hack instead of * html. I don't have anything to point to other than some discussions with the IE7 folks and it's what they recommend. Well, they're not going to recommend any hacking. But they downplay * html. I'd prefer to go with

[WSG] quick question

to 000, adding underlines, what else should go into an uber color reset style sheet? Thanks Ted Drake Yahoo! Tech  - Tech Made Easy Member of the Yahoo! Accessibility Stakeholders Group October 3 Product Forum Discussion - Don't miss Mike Shebanek discuss Apple's VoiceOver screen reader

RE: [WSG] quick question

or not, there's still some work to do. Ted -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rahul Gonsalves Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 7:10 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] quick question Ted Drake wrote: Hi All I'm working

RE: [WSG] How to align images at the *bottom* with CSS?

Try vertical-align:bottom As in p img {vertical-align:bottom} Ted -Original Message- Hi everybody, I have a block with an smaller image inside. I'd liked to align the image at the *bottom* of the block... How can I do it with CSS? Thanks for your help! Antonio

RE: [WSG] How to align images at the *bottom* with CSS?

. It’s just a good practice to define your positioning specifically. Ted Drake www.last-child.com On Behalf Of Carlos Carreo background-position: bottom; Matthew Pennell a écrit : On 9/13/06, Antonio [EMAIL

RE: [WSG] Target.com case moves forward

Hi Micky You need to show good faith effort to make your site accessible. Target was warned 6 months prior to the initial filing that they had significant problems and suggestions were given to fix them. The Target site did not make it difficult to use, it made it impossible for a blind person to

RE: [WSG] unsubscribe

This reminds me of an email a couple years ago, I think it was to this list. Someone sent a message to her friend about workplace gossip, friends, and oh my god, can you believe Sharon is pregnant Just when you get to the point of pulling your hear out over z-index issues in IE6 a

RE: [WSG] image verification

Eric Meyer came up with one of the easiest ways to do this in an accessible manner. Use a question like this: What color is an orange? Now that may require someone knowing what an orange is, but you could do something like this. To make sure you arent a computer, Im going to ask a

RE: [WSG] Resetting properties after *

Ive found ol {margin-left:25px} usually gets you in the ball park. FYI, the Yahoo User Interface library has a set of CSS files that you can use for global reset and to establish a baseline font size setting. Theyve been tested to make sure they accommodate the Grade A browsers to save

RE: [WSG] CSS based menu popping behind Flash movie only in Safari problem

This works in IE6 and not safari!?! I would confirm the z-index of your dropdown parent container and flash parent container. If you havent set this, apply position:relative z-index:1 to the flash container and position:relative; z-index:5 to the dropdown container to see if that helps.

RE: [WSG] Suckerfish Dropdown problem - IE

This is an ugly fix, but can lead you toward to solution. Try placing the entire list in one line, removing the whitespace between the list items. At least try this for the first few list items. This is a common problem in IE6 with horizontal list elements. You can fix it by adding

microformats: was - RE: [WSG] target=_blank

and will post another this week on other microformat elements that we're adding this week. I'll also post something soon about how you can add the OpenSearch protocol to your pages to work with IE7 and A9 based search engines. Ted Drake Yahoo! Tech Ian Pouncey wrote: According to http://www.w3.org

RE: [WSG] how to create nested links in a side-navigation

using the libraries, you should update your links to use the latest versions. They crew is constantly working to make it leaner, faster, and better. Ted Drake Yahoo! Tech - Tech Made Easy Member of the Yahoo! Accessibility Stakeholders Group Did you know: Fully justified text alignment

RE: [WSG] Alphabetical Listing Buttons - What are you thiinking???

How many times have I bit my tongue as Felix has blurted out his irrational ideas. Sorry to be negative, but this is just wrong. Semantic value has nothing to do with your spreadsheets. A list of letters in the alphabet is a list. It's not a table unless you are trying to make a relationship

[WSG] list items floating around a floated element

. But that is not the point of this email. I'm curious about any list item that needs to flow around a previously floated image. Thanks Ted Drake Front-end Engineer Yahoo! Tech ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http

RE: [WSG] list items floating around a floated element

. - Adam -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Drake Sent: Tuesday, 11 July 2006 11:14 a.m. To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] list items floating around a floated element HI All I'm drawing a blank on this today. We

RE: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

It is feature complete, but they have fixed many bugs that were recognized after the beta2 launch. So, it will be better than beta 2. It does mean that generated content and stuff like that will not be in the final release. Ted www.last-child.com -Original Message- From:

RE: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

Hi Joe I have cured things like this in IE7 by checking hasLayout and clearing issues. I haven't had the chance to look at your particular code. Ted -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 1:59 PM To:

RE: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

I see your issue. Without doing the trouble shooting for you, I'd suggest invoking hasLayout on the header. The easiest way to do this that will not mess up other browsers is to add zoom:1 to the header and its contents one at a time until you figure out which is the offending element. If that

RE: [WSG] IE7 padding, maybe?

It is feature complete, but they have fixed many bugs that were recognized after the beta2 launch. So, it will be better than beta 2. It does mean that generated content and stuff like that will not be in the final release. Ted www.last-child.com -Original Message- From:

RE: [WSG] Through PDA

Mobile appliances are notoriously difficult to program for. Cell phone and PDA manufacturers are still stuck in the Wild West days of browser wars. You just have to do the best you can and hope the majority of people can view your stuff. I'm not on the Yahoo! mobile project, but from what I

RE: [WSG] Accessibility standards - for commercial consumption

In the United States, a company has to make a good faith effort to provide accessibility. Target was sued after they were presented with a list of problems and given 6 months to correct them. I would guess that the first major WCAG2 based lawsuit would be against a similar company that has

RE: [WSG] Horizontal List Issue

I've had good luck with li img {vertical-align:middle} This helps if you have an image that is roughly the same height as the text in the list item. It's not as good if the text begins to wrap. -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [WSG] table or div

Depending on your content, it could be as simple as ul li/li li/li /ul Ted From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Price Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2006 4:33 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] table or div

RE: [WSG] Offlist unscientific poll

Hi Tom If you really want offlist responses, please add your email address to your message. The standard reply will go to wsg and it doesn't make it easy to discover your personal address. This is why I'm sending this to the list and not to you directly. p.s. I use the latest version of firefox.

RE: [WSG] duplicate id

Don’t base your markup decisions on how the final product looks. Base your markup decisions on what the content is and should be. So, if the title test is the title of the page, it should be marked up with a header tag. Placing it in a span, div, p, etc is not giving it the structural and semantic

[WSG] UFO flash movies and accessibility

soon on the Yahoo! User Interface blog in the near future. Ted Drake Front-end Engineer Yahoo! Tech http://tech.yahoo.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm

RE: [WSG] XSLT Training?

Oh are you in for a world of joy. XSLT is just one big bowl of quirky cherries. I have found the O'Reilly XSLT book to be a good introduction and reference book. I've also gone to the XSLT Programmer's Reference from Wrox. But it's a hefty book and not as easy to find the information. Here's a

RE: [WSG] frames for HTML

Here are a couple experiments by Hedger Wang that you may find interesting. CSS Framesets (variations of these have been around forever) http://www.hedgerwow.com/360/dhtml/css-frameset/demo_1.html Drag and drop toolbars (this is really cool and gives you more of a desktop application

RE: [WSG] ajax and validation

I like to look at the generated source code in the web developers toolbar and then pasting the code into a new page to test validation. The generated source code option is great at finding strange layout issues. Go to view source view generated source in the web developer toolbar

RE: [WSG] launch of site: Yahoo! Tech

May 2006 03:16 am, Ted Drake wrote: So, take some time to look at the site: http://tech.yahoo.com . I know there are still some validation errors, especially with the content that's beyond our control. But there are other goodies inside, especially for accessibility and I'd be happy to answer

[WSG] a question about badges, snipp

deal with them? Do they ever over-ride your normal style sheets? Thanks Ted Drake Front-end Engineer Yahoo! Tech ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints

RE: [WSG] Opera and transparent png

Ted Drake wrote: Doesn't Opera handle transparent png? Opera handles transparent pngs. Opera also sometimes identifies itself as IE, how are you choosing when to add your IE6 stylesheet? -- R. Potter Design and Development Lead Midnight Oil Design: http://www.midnightoildesign.com Pragmatic

[WSG] launch of site: Yahoo! Tech

on. Thanks Ted Drake Front-end Engineer Yahoo! Tech http:tech.yahoo.com (It feels so nice to actually put an address in the signature) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail

RE: [WSG] launch of site: Yahoo! Tech

up the great work! On 5/1/06, Ted Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: HI all Well, I've been a lurker more than usual for the past few months; sending vague questions once in a while. It's finally time to pull the covers off our site. We launched Yahoo! Tech this morning. The immediate talk

RE: [WSG] launch of site: Yahoo! Tech

Hi I wish I could say that we had a strong type strategy. It has shifted a few times. I removed a legacy font style sheet a month or so ago and favored setting a default size in the global style sheet. We then use percentages in various specific styles to bring the sizes towards the visual design.

RE: [WSG] Convert html to ascii script?

Heres the easiest method out there, if you have dreamweaver Paste your source code into the design view of Dreamweaver. Then go to the code view and all of the code elements have been converted to ascii. Ted www.last-child.com From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org

[WSG] get naked tomorrow with your css

, visit Dustins site and leave a comment. And at midnight tonight, disable your css. Ted Drake Front-end Engineer Yahoo! Tech

RE: [WSG] get naked tomorrow with your css

Wouldn't that be fun! I could always point the blame at Dustin Diaz for pulling the sheets off. Ted -Original Message- From: listdad@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jan Brasna Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 9:27 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re:

RE: [WSG] two different submits in a form

guess that should work. Cheers, Marco On Apr 4, 2006, at 10:49 PM, Ted Drake wrote: Hi All I've got a question for the js people out there. I haven't found an answer yet, but it should be fairly straightforward. We have a form that allows people to see their favorite products and either

[WSG] injecting a bit of humor into your css

that floats inside it. .slava .troodoo {float:left;} Those that appreciate Russian culture would understand the reference. So, anyone else out there have a gem or two? Ted Drake Front-end Engineer Yahoo! Tech

RE: [WSG] z index stacking prob

I've been struggling with this, check out my blogpost for some helpful links. http://www.last-child.com/conflicting-z-index-in-ie6/ The answer is: there is no easy answer. You need to set a relationship between z-index on parent/child and subsequent parent/child elements. You may need to insert