Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Dave Cross

At 21:12 03/04/2001, you wrote:
>Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
>and no-one told me?

Yeah. Sorry. We should probably make that clearer :)

Dave...



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Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:22:38AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > Yeah, yeah drunks, skateboarders, musicians .
> 
> ...geeks, goths, jugglers, Natscis.  And that's just me.

I raise you (at least) two accomplished unicyclists...

Paul, whose uni got nicked in fscking cambridge. "Ooh, it's got a wheel!
Not the usual two, but fuck it, let's steal it anyway!"



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Alex Page

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> camp fire, drinking and talking.

But where would we find a camping ground with a fast net connection and wireless LAN 
connections?

Alex
-- 
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 can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > > Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.
> > 
> >  I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary
> > collection of sharp edges.
> 
> I have a pointy stick especially for the toasting of marshmallows.  I kid
> you not.
> 

ah, but do you have a point stick for speciality sausages from
the farm shop?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:57PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> > Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
> > and no-one told me?
> 
> And drunks!  Don't forget drunks!
> 

drunk crazy buffy fans

-- 
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Don't the merkans do something like this (the camping, not the F&M)? They
> call it "Camp Camel" - which always brings strange pictures to my mind...
> 

they just don't do these things right, half their organisation efforts 
will concentrate on muffins as opposed to explosives


-- 
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> 
> >How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> >to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> >vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> >shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> >camp fire, drinking and talking.
> >
> 
> Count me in. I have a tent and everything !
> 

any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and
explosives


-- 
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
> > 
> 
> maybe ...
> 
> do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;)
> 

yip, but its probably not near sussex and you really don't
want a 5 ft radius circle of charcoal left in it

-- 
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> > * Somebody wrote
> > > > Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
> >
> > i was using the working assumption, that the time for the F&M ban
> > to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
> > organise this
> 
> *shock*
> You used the 'o' word.
> 

its ok, we can do the organisation as long as we have the
greg school of organisation in play, it will basically mean
agreeing with Dave Can. when he can take his `people carrier'
to sussex - the announcing the weekend in advance and 
refusing to change it.


-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> Anyway, this fails on the 'crazy' test unless dawn til dusk walks are
> included as part of a healthy regime.
> 

thats where our definitions of crazy differ, for instance i think
its fairly crazy to drag a pile of london.pm'ers into a forest,
get them drunk and watch the chaos. your definition of crazy
involves straight jackets or joining the SDLP ;-)

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


Jonathan Stowe wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David H. Adler wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:57PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> > > Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
> > > and no-one told me?
> > And drunks!  Don't forget drunks!
> >
> 
> Yeah, yeah drunks, skateboarders, musicians .

...geeks, goths, jugglers, Natscis.  And that's just me.


L.
"The sun always shines on TV."




Re: when are we going to see the caaaamels

2001-04-03 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:29:58PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> > I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know.
> 
> I think they would get a little upset if you started slicing up the
> camels.

maybe  ... maybe not ...

there is a safari park ~ 1mile down the road from me. All you need to
know is:

There are several cattle farms around here.
Foot and Mouth is in the area
Amongst other things, Elephants are on 'the list'
Its the wrong time of the year for bar-b-q really ...

still .. a few oak chippings and a bit of that special 'smokey' sauce and
it should be OK ... wot you reckon,  bun and a few onions or baked
potatoes?

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Paul Makepeace

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:31:12PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> Indeed, that was just my observation on a few posts' worth. Who *knows*
> what I might conclude about a whole day's traffic..

..that you need to put your London.pm folder on its own spanning
compressed partition.

Paul



Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Roger Horne

On Tue 03 Apr, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
 
> OK.  SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK
> law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the
> project on slashdot 

Why me ... ?

(Quite a bit is getting onto http://www.bailii.org , run by the Aussies,
although I am not convinced that their software is as good as they claim at
http://elj.warwick.ac.uk/jilt/LegInfo/97_2gree/default.htm )

Roger
-- 
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Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Dean S Wilson

-Original Message-
From: Martin Ling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


>> YOu havent been around here very long have you :)

>Indeed, that was just my observation on a few posts' worth. Who
*knows*
>what I might conclude about a whole day's traffic..


Stick with drunks, it'll save time. And the meetings on Thursday so
you announced yourself just in time! ;)

Dean

--
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   ---  Anon




Re: when are we going to see the caaaamels

2001-04-03 Thread Redvers Davies

> I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know.

I owe you for 1-2 slices.



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Martin Ling

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:23:15PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> >
> > Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
> > and no-one told me?
> 
> YOu havent been around here very long have you :)

Indeed, that was just my observation on a few posts' worth. Who *knows*
what I might conclude about a whole day's traffic..


Martin



Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David H. Adler wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:57PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> > Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
> > and no-one told me?
>
> And drunks!  Don't forget drunks!
>

Yeah, yeah drunks, skateboarders, musicians .

/J\




Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Martin Ling wrote:

> Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
> and no-one told me?
>

YOu havent been around here very long have you :)

/J\




Re: sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:57PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote:
> Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
> and no-one told me?

And drunks!  Don't forget drunks!

dha
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- What's Your Name



sub BEGIN {}

2001-04-03 Thread Martin Ling

Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time
and no-one told me?


Martin



Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Cozens

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:56:25PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote:
> OK.  SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK
> law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the
> project on slashdot 

Bizarrely enough, I'm involved a project to do something *similar* for the
Japanese code of laws...

-- 
I forgot that I was *that* smart!
-- Ilya Zakharevich



The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote:

>
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Mison wrote:
>
> > http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/
>
>  Kewl. Is it GPL?
>

OK.  SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK
law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the
project on slashdot 

I'm not entirely sure the GPL is adequate for licensing a Constitution but
who knows :)

/J\




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe



On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
> > How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> > to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> > vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> > shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> > camp fire, drinking and talking.
>
> Why the hell not.  The farm which I believe Greg has in mind
> (www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead.  Yum!
>

Ah, Middle Farm . this sounds like an idea - and its in the same
county as me :)

/J\




True Scientology Story (was Re: More Scientology stuff, ignore ifyou are not interested was Re: archiving)

2001-04-03 Thread Jonathan Stowe

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> * dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56
> >
> > > So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive?
> >
> > Where do I start?
> >
> > * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to
> > start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology.
> >
>
> as in CoS 
>
> "People should be free to believe whatever they want, including Scientology.
> What I have against CoS is its deceitfulness, its lack of compassion for its
> members (especially the hard-working staff), its aggressive hard sell, its
> arrogance, its attack on free speech, its litigiousness, its harassment of
> its critics, its lack of concern for families, its gross neglect and abuse of
> children, etc. "
>
> from http://www.xenu.net/cb-faq.html
>
> you can also help out at http://www.xenu.net/support.html
> >
> > Is that the sort of thing you wanted?
> >
>
> exactly dave, it makes me feel that the archive have some use!
>

I have one Scientology story -

A couple of years ago I was in East Grinstead hospital (thing 'Guinea Pig
Club') while they were trying to fix the little finger on my right hand (
they failed but thats another story ).  There was this nice Maori guy in
the bed next to me out of his head on pain-killers as he had third degree
burns on his arms.  Anyhow it transpired that he was part of a Maori
dancing troupe that was doing some cultural tour at the behest of the
Church of Scientology whose european headquarters happen to be in East
Grinstead.  The second day I was in the hospital I was beginning to get a
little pissed off as you do and  this party of bloody Scientology Auditors
came along and started doing their thing with this geezer with only the
merest of hospital screens around - I dont think that they get out the old
baked bean can and avometer device ( Oooh sorry E-Meter ) but you can
never be too sure -  and this started going on for seeming hours and I was
that bored that I had started reading Bjarne Stroustrup' book again.

I'm not going to bore you with the details of wahat the prats were going o
about but needless to say it could be deduced from Hubbards earlier
writings and the basic milieu of cod spychology of the early sixties ...

I complained to the staff and they said it pissed them off too but they
got a lot of them in being the HQ and everything and they couldnt do much
about it 


/J\




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread David H. Adler

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:47:02PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote:
> 
> Either that or he misread F&M as S&M, or, worse, FHM.

"Worse"?  You haven't seen those Alyson Hannigan pictures, have you?
:-)

dha
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Cozens

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:21:48PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote:
> Is dave cross written in Perl?

"Dave Cross Munging with Perl"

ISAGN.

-- 
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Re: when are we going to see the caaaamels

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Cozens

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:29:58PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know.

I think they would get a little upset if you started slicing up the
camels.

-- 
There is no distinction between any AI program and some existent game.



Re: Buffy riding a pony!

2001-04-03 Thread Mike Jarvis

May I forward your post to one of my company's internal humour/perl
lists?


-- 
mike





RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote:

> 
> Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
> 

maybe ...

do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;)

-- 
Robin Szemeti

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So I installed Linux!



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Richard Clamp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Cool, it may even spur me into getting the van a little more habitable
> than it currently is.

Uh, oh. Locked in a barn with a van, some welding gear and assorted
bits of steel...

-- 
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  Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
   



Re: Madness! It's Madness!!

2001-04-03 Thread Nathan Torkington

dcross - David Cross wrote:
> Damian's been busy over the last couple of weeks and has produced a load of
> documentation on what he thinks Perl 6 _might_ be like. It's at
> .

Also, Larry's released the first part (Apocalypse) of his perl6 plans.
http://www.perl.com/ has it, and it should percolate through perl6-announce
soon.

Nat



List jumping ? [was] RE: when are we going to see the caaaamels

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wilcox

Is there list jumping going on ?

I seem to be getting about half the traffic this afternoon.

frinstance, I didn't get the original post this replies to.


At 17:29 03/04/2001 +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
>From: jo walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: 03 April 2001 16:15
>
> > can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon?
> > davorg? can we davorg?
>
>Er... yes... I suppose so.
>
>/me makes a mental note to work out who is entitled to camel tickets.
>
>I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know.
>
>Dave...
>




Re: when are we going to see the caaaamels

2001-04-03 Thread Robert Shiels

Yes please, before our tickets run out

/Robert

From: "jo walsh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon?
> davorg? can we davorg?
> 
> z





RE: when are we going to see the caaaamels

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: jo walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03 April 2001 16:15

> can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon?
> davorg? can we davorg?

Er... yes... I suppose so.

/me makes a mental note to work out who is entitled to camel tickets.

I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know.

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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Rob Partington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03 April 2001 17:24

> In message ,
> dcross - David Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Dave...
> > [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...]
> 
> Should I call Mulder and Scully?

Was trying to think of updated lyrics to this over the weekend.

Things are getting strange, I'm starting to forget.
This could be a case for Scully and Doggett.


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/04 17:21 +0100 Matthew Byng-Maddick said:
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
> > * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
> > > Either that or he misread F&M as S&M, or, worse, FHM.
> > well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :)
> 
> Is dave cross written in Perl?

well no[1] but if it's hard to parse in perl...

s

[1] not that i have any evidence one way or the other...



RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:

> From: Lucy McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.
> 
> /me wonders if Lucy realises just how on-topic "Mr Pointy" is for this list.

Oh, I do...


L.
"For puppies!  And Christmas!"




Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread David H. Adler

> 
> Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
> cannisters as a child?

No, but I'm hardly surprised...

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Rob Partington

In message ,
dcross - David Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dave...
> [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...]

Should I call Mulder and Scully?
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote:
> * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
> > Either that or he misread F&M as S&M, or, worse, FHM.
> well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :)

Is dave cross written in Perl?

MBM (thinks his visual parser algorithms are probably written in BASIC :( )

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when are we going to see the caaaamels

2001-04-03 Thread jo walsh


can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon?
davorg? can we davorg?

z

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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Lucy McWilliam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03 April 2001 16:40

> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out
> >
> > I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;)
> 
> Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.

/me wonders if Lucy realises just how on-topic "Mr Pointy" is for this list.

Dave...

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread AEF



On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Mison wrote:

> http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/

 Kewl. Is it GPL?

 Tony




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
> > From:   Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> >>> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> > ^^^ 
> >> Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
> 
> > /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil
> > replacement.
> 
> Either that or he misread F&M as S&M, or, worse, FHM.

well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :)

struan



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
> > Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.
> 
>  I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary
> collection of sharp edges.

I have a pointy stick especially for the toasting of marshmallows.  I kid
you not.


L.
"Bring your haddock to the paddock."




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> * Somebody wrote
> > > Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
>
> i was using the working assumption, that the time for the F&M ban
> to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
> organise this

*shock*
You used the 'o' word.


L.
"The vultures are descending.  And they've got spoons!"




RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03 April 2001 16:53

> * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > dcross - David Cross wrote:
> > 
> > > > How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> > > > to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> > ^^^ 
> > > Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
> 
> i was using the working assumption, that the time for the F&M ban
> to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
> organise this

Of course. Fair point. This should be organised about the time of the _next_
foot & mouth outbreak :)

Don't the merkans do something like this (the camping, not the F&M)? They
call it "Camp Camel" - which always brings strange pictures to my mind...

Dave...

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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Simon Wistow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03 April 2001 16:48

> dcross - David Cross wrote:
> 
> > > How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> > > to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> ^^^ 
> > Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
> 
> /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil
> replacement.

/me misparsed that completely as "FHM issue".

I have no excuse.

> Volunteers for a rescue party step forward.

Please!

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dean

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:52:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
 
> i was using the working assumption, that the time for the F&M ban
> to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
> organise this

London PM and the Labour govenernment... which will act first?
Irresistible force meets immovable object ;)

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Paul Mison

On 03/04/2001 at 16:40 +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote:
>On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>> > How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out
>>
>> I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;)
>
>Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.

'Britain is open for business. That means you can visit cities, towns,
villages and thousands of places all over the country just as you have
always done, and more places are opening each day. A day out, or a
weekend break, or a longer holiday can still be enormous fun, and just
as relaxing as it ever was.'

http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/

Anyway, this fails on the 'crazy' test unless dawn til dusk walks are
included as part of a healthy regime.

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Richard Clamp

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:48:15PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote:
> 
> Volunteers for a rescue party step forward.

Do we get guns, lots of guns?

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:


>How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
>to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
>vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
>shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
>camp fire, drinking and talking.
>

Count me in. I have a tent and everything !

Simon.




RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Andrew Bowman

> From: Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
>>> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> ^^^ 
>> Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?

> /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil
> replacement.

Either that or he misread F&M as S&M, or, worse, FHM.

Andrew.




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread AEF


 Well, it /would/ give me an excuse to buy all that cool outdoor stuff I
want (yes, of course I need that 200ukp sleeping bag...)

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote:

> Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.

 I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary
collection of sharp edges.

 Tony




Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> dcross - David Cross wrote:
> 
> > > How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> > > to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> ^^^ 
> > Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?
> 

i was using the working assumption, that the time for the F&M ban
to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to
organise this


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Clarke, Darren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
>Greg came up with the excellent suggestion:
>
>>How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
>>to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
>>vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
>>shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
>>camp fire, drinking and talking.
>
>Is the cider compulsory or can other fermented fruit|vegetable|grain
>products be imbibed?
>

they also do some great organic beer, of course you bring whatever
you like anyway

>I shall have to brush up on my ghost stories :¬)
>

i've got a great one, it starts out with a monster attacking
a gypsy campsite and killing all but a few, however they place
a curse on him, which means he has an conscience .

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wistow

dcross - David Cross wrote:

> > How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> > to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
^^^ 
> Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?

/me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil
replacement.

Volunteers for a rescue party step forward.



Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Richard Clamp

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> 
> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> camp fire, drinking and talking.

Cool, it may even spur me into getting the van a little more habitable
than it currently is.

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out
>
> I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;)

Mmm.  I shall bring Mr Pointy.  All subject to FMD of course.


L.
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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Andrew Bowman

> From: David Cantrell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Why the hell not.  The farm which I believe Greg has in mind
> (www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead.  Yum!

And do they supply Butane canisters and matches too? ;-)

Andrew.




RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03 April 2001 15:29

> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> camp fire, drinking and talking.

Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you?

Dave...

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Lucy McWilliam


On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> camp fire, drinking and talking.

That *is* a mad idea.  I like it.  Muahahaha.


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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> camp fire, drinking and talking.

Why the hell not.  The farm which I believe Greg has in mind
(www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead.  Yum!

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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Dean

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:

> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> camp fire, drinking and talking.

Cool idea.

I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;)

Dean
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Re: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wistow

Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
> to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
> vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
> shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
> camp fire, drinking and talking.

There has been talk of something like this for a while - I think it was
rainchecked untilt he weather got better. The words Port Meiron were
bandied around as were 'cottage in wales'.

May bank holiday? Or is that just going to be a nightmare to get
anywhere?



Re: Jedi

2001-04-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Dominic Mitchell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:55PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> > I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out
> > that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official
> > and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down
> > "Jedi".
> > 
> > This is a Good Thing :-)
> > 
> > Spread the word.
> 
> It started in the NZ census a short while ago:
> 
> http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/05/0252249.shtml

I never said it was original :-) And it sounds like the guy who is
running the UK census is possibly the one who did the Kiwi one.

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RE: Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Clarke, Darren
Title: RE: Crazy Idea





Greg came up with the excellent suggestion:


>How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
>to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
>vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
>shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
>camp fire, drinking and talking.


Is the cider compulsory or can other fermented fruit|vegetable|grain products be imbibed?


Either way I would be up for it!


I shall have to brush up on my ghost stories :¬)


Darren Clarke
Padawan (which is what I meant earlier when I wrote padouin...)





going extreme

2001-04-03 Thread James Powell

http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5424853.html?tag=lh

jp



Crazy Idea

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll



How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject
to the F&M issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into
vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm
shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a
camp fire, drinking and talking.



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Re: Jedi

2001-04-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:55PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out
> that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official
> and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down
> "Jedi".
> 
> This is a Good Thing :-)
> 
> Spread the word.

It started in the NZ census a short while ago:

http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/05/0252249.shtml

-Dom



RE: Jedi

2001-04-03 Thread Clarke, Darren
Title: RE: Jedi





Dave used his mastery of the dark side and suggested:


>I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out
>that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official
>and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down
>"Jedi".


>This is a Good Thing :-)


>Spread the word.


I can get my whole household signed up to that!


Darren Clarke
Padouin





Jedi

2001-04-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson


I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out
that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official
and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down
"Jedi".

This is a Good Thing :-)

Spread the word.

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Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Dean

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:17:01PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
 
>> So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? 
 
> Where do I start?
Posting the fishman affidavit should do it. ;)

> * The "church" was responsible for the closure of anon.penet.fi and recently
> forced Slashdot to edit some comments.

Forced is a bit strong. They used the (Broken) DMCA law and told Slashdot
what to do. Slashdot realized that this wasn't every-ones favourite bad guy
Microsoft and realized that they had not a leg to stand on. The reason i
have such a jaded view of this is that the situation was very similar to
the Microsoft Kerberus one and Slashdot held their ground over that one.

Also it was amusing to see the comments praising the decision to back down
and remove the article.
 
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RE: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Clarke, Darren
Title: RE: archiving





And Robin wrote:


>I can as a child, for reasons too complicated to go into, we always had
>lots of Nitro-Cellulose/Nitro-Glycerin compound (for reloading cartridges
>with) .. the fun two small boys can have given access to decent
>explosives is quite unreal ...


No fair!


We didn't have decent explosives when I were a lad!


Although we did have some minor successes with fireworks and 'cow pats', nitro-cellulose/glycerin compounds were beyond our means!

I demand that the someone makes amends for this by providing a rocket pack and some dynamite - soonest!


Darren Clarke
Neophyte


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Re: Legal Disclaimers on Email (was: Re: archiving)

2001-04-03 Thread Andy Williams

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:56:27AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote:
> [snip]
> > Hey!!! That took the legal team at Acxiom (US) months to come upt with :)
>
> And what do they know about UK law?
>

Sweet FA I guess. I have pointed this out to our "management team", but
I'm just a lowly perl hacker, what would I know.

Andy




Re: Legal Disclaimers on Email (was: Re: archiving)

2001-04-03 Thread Simon Wilcox

At 15:02 03/04/2001 +0100, Dominic Mitchell wrote:
>On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:56:27AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote:
>[snip]
> > Hey!!! That took the legal team at Acxiom (US) months to come upt with :)
>
>And what do they know about UK law?

Bugger all if they're like our lot.

Ours still insists that people phone if they receive it in error without 
actually giving a phone number.

This little, erm, "quirk" was graciously pointed out right here on this 
list some while ago which prompted me to finally get this account up and 
running !

Simon.




Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> * Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > 
> > > Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
> > > cannisters as a child?
> > 
> > We *all* used to do *that* :-)
> > 
> 

have you tried the 'Sparklets' CO2 bulb on top of a firelighter trick ..
thats quite good.

I can as a child, for reasons too complicated to go into, we always had
lots of Nitro-Cellulose/Nitro-Glycerin compound (for reloading cartridges
with) .. the fun two small boys can have given access to decent
explosives is quite unreal ...

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So I installed Linux!



Legal Disclaimers on Email (was: Re: archiving)

2001-04-03 Thread Dominic Mitchell

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:56:27AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote:
[snip]
> Hey!!! That took the legal team at Acxiom (US) months to come upt with :)

And what do they know about UK law?

-Dom



RE: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Andy Williams

> On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> > * Scientologists pay huge sums of money to buy "secrets" that are mirrored
> > all over the internet. The "church" claims these are copyrighted and will do
> > their best to close down any site carrying these.
> > --
> > The information contained in this communication is
>   ^^
> > confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient
>   
> > named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader
> > of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
>  ^^^
> > hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or
>   ^^^
> > copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.
>   
>
> Is it just me that finds your disclaimer really quite funny in context? :)
>

Hey!!! That took the legal team at Acxiom (US) months to come upt with :)

Andy (Acxiom Employee :()






Question

2001-04-03 Thread james_h

Hi Folks -

In a (possibly vain) attempt to think ahead, I am looking for some info on 
London-based Perl jobs.  I have about 3/4 months experience in Perl 
programming, and ideally would like to stay in the city area.  Anyone know of 
some good places to start?

Thanks

James

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More Scientology stuff, ignore if you are not interested was Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56
> 
> > So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? 
> 
> Where do I start?
> 
> * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to
> start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology.
> 

as in CoS 

"People should be free to believe whatever they want, including Scientology. 
What I have against CoS is its deceitfulness, its lack of compassion for its 
members (especially the hard-working staff), its aggressive hard sell, its 
arrogance, its attack on free speech, its litigiousness, its harassment of 
its critics, its lack of concern for families, its gross neglect and abuse of 
children, etc. "

from http://www.xenu.net/cb-faq.html

you can also help out at http://www.xenu.net/support.html
> 
> Is that the sort of thing you wanted?
> 

exactly dave, it makes me feel that the archive have some use!

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Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/04 14:17 +0100 dcross - David Cross said:
> From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56
> 
> > So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? 
> 
> Where do I start?
> 
> * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to
> start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology.
> 
> * Scientologists believe that humans are descended from clams.
> 
> * Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were both scientologists. There's a rumour
> that their (exactly) ten year marriage was a scientology contract drawn up
> to cover up the fact that they're both gay.
> 
> * Scientologists pay huge sums of money to buy "secrets" that are mirrored
> all over the internet. The "church" claims these are copyrighted and will do
> their best to close down any site carrying these.
> 
> * The "church" was responsible for the closure of anon.penet.fi and recently
> forced Slashdot to edit some comments.
> 
> * Loads more good stuff from Operation Clambake at .
> 
> Is that the sort of thing you wanted?

you'll have those illumnati round your house this evening.. or is that
david ike?

struan

and you forgot the machines for exorcising the space aliens from your
head. or something like that.



RE: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Matthew Byng-Maddick

On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> * Scientologists pay huge sums of money to buy "secrets" that are mirrored
> all over the internet. The "church" claims these are copyrighted and will do
> their best to close down any site carrying these.
> -- 
> The information contained in this communication is
  ^^
> confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient
  
> named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader 
> of this message is not the intended recipient, you are
 ^^^
> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or
  ^^^
> copying of this communication is strictly prohibited.  
  

Is it just me that finds your disclaimer really quite funny in context? :)

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RE: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread dcross - David Cross

From: Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56

> So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? 

Where do I start?

* L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to
start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology.

* Scientologists believe that humans are descended from clams.

* Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were both scientologists. There's a rumour
that their (exactly) ten year marriage was a scientology contract drawn up
to cover up the fact that they're both gay.

* Scientologists pay huge sums of money to buy "secrets" that are mirrored
all over the internet. The "church" claims these are copyrighted and will do
their best to close down any site carrying these.

* The "church" was responsible for the closure of anon.penet.fi and recently
forced Slashdot to edit some comments.

* Loads more good stuff from Operation Clambake at .

Is that the sort of thing you wanted?

Dave...

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Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Struan Donald ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 

Boo!

> > 
> > So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? 
> 
> aren't they no fun in that all they do is sent a cease and desist
> letter rather than get involved in pointless debates? 
> 

But surely we wouldnt get it, it would be the archive. Actually
Mr Stowe might be a bit upset as dircon would eventually be tapped
on the shoulder. Best we move the list to germany first and
then start winding up L.Ron. However some people might feel that
moving the list just so we can wind up scientologists is a bit
OTT, but they are all Windows users who don't realise the evil
that is diskkeeper!

Greg (da kook)


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Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/04 13:55 +0100 Greg McCarroll said:
> * Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > 
> > > Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
> > > cannisters as a child?
> > 
> > We *all* used to do *that* :-)
> > 
> 

> 
> So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? 

aren't they no fun in that all they do is sent a cease and desist
letter rather than get involved in pointless debates? 

plus do we really want people coming round a seizing our computers as
evidence? (well, not unless it's covered by household insurance as
mine's looking a bit elderly these days)

struan



Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Struan Donald

* at 03/04 13:45 +0100 Andrew Bowman said:
> > From:   Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
> > cannisters as a child?
> 
> I guess that goes with the accent Greg ;-)
> 
> If you hadn't discovered Perl goodness knows what you'd be doing now...
> 
> Andrew.
> 
> P.S. Did you do the old WD40 flamethrower trick too?

dunno about the butane cannisters but surely there can't be anyone
here who hasn't done that?

struan



Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Andrew Bowman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > From:   Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
> > cannisters as a child?
> 
> I guess that goes with the accent Greg ;-)
> 
> If you hadn't discovered Perl goodness knows what you'd be doing now...
> 

Blowing up members of the conservative party no doubt  

Curse you Perl! ;-)

[
  I don't want to hear any crap about this one liner from anyone,
  if you try to flame me about it i'm going to stick my hands over
  my ears and say `La la la, I can't hear you, La la la', Ok?
]

> Andrew.
> 
> P.S. Did you do the old WD40 flamethrower trick too?

childs play, however beyond pressurised flammable substances, i remember
a particular stroke of genius from a northern irish camp site, where
they had a diesel tank near the camp site, sure it was in the forest,
but 20 yards beyond the tree line is not going to stop a pile of 
young northern irish arsenists.

ah great and dangerous days,

Greg

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net




Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > 
> > Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
> > cannisters as a child?
> 
> We *all* used to do *that* :-)
> 

I'm lucky not to have an eye missing from the time we punctured
a cannister to heat another one, only to have it finish before
blowing the other one. naturally we grabbed another one and
were `prepping it' when the first target went off without
any naked flame around (a good thing and a bad thing), the bottom
flew off and whacked me hard on my cheek bone. i always wonder what
would of happened if we had lit the 2nd `heater' cannister.

So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? 



-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



RE: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Andrew Bowman

> From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
> cannisters as a child?

I guess that goes with the accent Greg ;-)

If you hadn't discovered Perl goodness knows what you'd be doing now...

Andrew.

P.S. Did you do the old WD40 flamethrower trick too?




Re: archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Robin Houston

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> 
> Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
> cannisters as a child?

We *all* used to do *that* :-)

 .robin.

-- 
A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal--Panama!
--Guy Jacobson



Reminder! [lmug-talk] Apple comes to town !

2001-04-03 Thread Neil Ford

- Forwarded message from Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -

For those that might be interested.

Realised the date is missing from the email, it's tonight btw!

Neil.

>To: lmug-talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: Michael Corgan
>Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:38:58 +
>Subject: [lmug-talk] Apple comes to town !
>
>You might like to get in on the OS X act with LMUG. Apple UK are sending
>their man to our April Forum meeting, at the Crown and Two Chairmen in Dean
>Street W1.  Not only will he be demoing OS X, but we understand that a copy
>will be given by Apple as a raffle prize !
>
>So it will be well worth the £3 that non-members have to pay to get in !
>Just be sure to be early if you don't want to stand all the evening.
>
>Any more details that are required can be had via the LMUG web site.
>
>
>--
>Michael Corgan
>Chairman
>London Macintosh User Group
>
>See us on 
>
-- 
Neil C. Ford
Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- End forwarded message -



archiving

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll



I was thinking about the archiving of this list and also about
Battlefield Earth, and it occured to me what fun it might be
to post some anti-scientology rants on this list and see
what happens to the archivers of the list.

Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane
cannisters as a child?

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Steve Mynott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > yes .. I'd heard Airport was good ..  can you still configuer it if you
> > don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration
> > to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge?
> 
> It does NAT by default and basically works without configuration

Nah the best thing about the Airport is that it looks like a
UFO, now if Apple would only release an Earth Forces Star Fighter ... ;-)

> (which was just as well since I didn't have either a windows or macos
> box to use).
> 

you can configure an Airport with a Java program on linux, i
think the jar file is called AirportConfigurator.jar or some
other imaginative title.

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-03 Thread Steve Mynott

Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> yes .. I'd heard Airport was good ..  can you still configuer it if you
> don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration
> to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge?

It does NAT by default and basically works without configuration
(which was just as well since I didn't have either a windows or macos
box to use).

-- 
1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

grief can take care of itself, but to get the full value of joy you must
 have somebody to divide it with.  -- mark twain



Re: Social Meeting (fwd)

2001-04-03 Thread pmh

On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:59:01 +0100, Leon Brocard wrote:
> ... (A)bort (R)etry (P)ull leg (H)ot boot (S)wipe tagline!

That's a clever way to stop people swiping them. Worked on me (damn!)

-- 
Peter Haworth   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Sudden death may occur without warning. Call a physician immediately."
-- Warning found on a can of Freon



Re: Madness! It's Madness!!

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:16:37AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> 
> > Certain members of the list might be interested in
> >  which indicates
> > that in Damian's view of the world RFC324 is a good thing!
> 
> I'M SORRY IT WAS MEANT AS A JOKE!!!
> 

There is a term for sick twisted people like you Dave, its `Perl Monger'.

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-03 Thread mallum

Yes it DOES work.

I run an Orinocco in an ELSA pcmcia-isa card ( about 35 quid ) on my gateway
at home. Just make sure you use the latest pcmcia stuff and run the cards in
'Ad-Hoc' mode. Theres no need for bridging either, Linux seems to happily 
ferry packets from wired to wireless ( and vise versa) with justa bit of 
subnetting.

mallum

on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 08:24:32AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4
> > cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA
> > adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned
> > I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a
> > 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as
> > half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do
> > know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to
> > the states ... 
> 
> Should work between the two cards, just make sure you have some
> crossover aether between the two...
> 
> -- 
> Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
> Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
> Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
>  
> 



Re: Madness! It's Madness!!

2001-04-03 Thread David Cantrell

On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:16:37AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote:

> Certain members of the list might be interested in
>  which indicates
> that in Damian's view of the world RFC324 is a good thing!

I'M SORRY IT WAS MEANT AS A JOKE!!!

dha and I were drunk at the time too.

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