Re: Social Meeting
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 20:57 02/04/2001, you wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:35:13PM +0100, Marty Pauley wrote: On Thu Mar 29 03:13:59 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Can someone product a set of simple instructions on how to get there. Could someone please post the directions before Thursday. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=532459Y=180389A=YZ=1 And now on the web site. Apologies for general crapness in not getting this done earlier. so it definetly is the anchor this week? -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
RE: Social Meeting
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 08:04 * Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 20:57 02/04/2001, you wrote: On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:35:13PM +0100, Marty Pauley wrote: On Thu Mar 29 03:13:59 2001, Dave Cross wrote: Can someone product a set of simple instructions on how to get there. Could someone please post the directions before Thursday. http://www.streetmap.co.uk/streetmap.dll?G2M?X=532459Y=180389A=YZ=1 And now on the web site. Apologies for general crapness in not getting this done earlier. so it definetly is the anchor this week? The web site never lies[1]. Dave... [1] Actually, sometimes it does. But on this occasion, it doesn't :) -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: Wavelan
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4 cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to the states ... Should work between the two cards, just make sure you have some crossover aether between the two... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Madness! It's Madness!!
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:16:37AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Certain members of the list might be interested in http://www.yetanother.org/damian/Perl5+i/autovivify.html which indicates that in Damian's view of the world RFC324 is a good thing! I'M SORRY IT WAS MEANT AS A JOKE!!! dha and I were drunk at the time too. -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
Re: Wavelan
Yes it DOES work. I run an Orinocco in an ELSA pcmcia-isa card ( about 35 quid ) on my gateway at home. Just make sure you use the latest pcmcia stuff and run the cards in 'Ad-Hoc' mode. Theres no need for bridging either, Linux seems to happily ferry packets from wired to wireless ( and vise versa) with justa bit of subnetting. mallum on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 08:24:32AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4 cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to the states ... Should work between the two cards, just make sure you have some crossover aether between the two... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Madness! It's Madness!!
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:16:37AM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: Certain members of the list might be interested in http://www.yetanother.org/damian/Perl5+i/autovivify.html which indicates that in Damian's view of the world RFC324 is a good thing! I'M SORRY IT WAS MEANT AS A JOKE!!! There is a term for sick twisted people like you Dave, its `Perl Monger'. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Social Meeting (fwd)
On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:59:01 +0100, Leon Brocard wrote: ... (A)bort (R)etry (P)ull leg (H)ot boot (S)wipe tagline! That's a clever way to stop people swiping them. Worked on me (damn!) -- Peter Haworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Sudden death may occur without warning. Call a physician immediately." -- Warning found on a can of Freon
Re: Wavelan
Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes .. I'd heard Airport was good .. can you still configuer it if you don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge? It does NAT by default and basically works without configuration (which was just as well since I didn't have either a windows or macos box to use). -- 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] grief can take care of itself, but to get the full value of joy you must have somebody to divide it with. -- mark twain
Re: Wavelan
* Steve Mynott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Robin Szemeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: yes .. I'd heard Airport was good .. can you still configuer it if you don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge? It does NAT by default and basically works without configuration Nah the best thing about the Airport is that it looks like a UFO, now if Apple would only release an Earth Forces Star Fighter ... ;-) (which was just as well since I didn't have either a windows or macos box to use). you can configure an Airport with a Java program on linux, i think the jar file is called AirportConfigurator.jar or some other imaginative title. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Reminder! [lmug-talk] Apple comes to town !
- Forwarded message from Neil Ford [EMAIL PROTECTED] - For those that might be interested. Realised the date is missing from the email, it's tonight btw! Neil. To: lmug-talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Michael Corgan Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 16:38:58 + Subject: [lmug-talk] Apple comes to town ! You might like to get in on the OS X act with LMUG. Apple UK are sending their man to our April Forum meeting, at the Crown and Two Chairmen in Dean Street W1. Not only will he be demoing OS X, but we understand that a copy will be given by Apple as a raffle prize ! So it will be well worth the 3 that non-members have to pay to get in ! Just be sure to be early if you don't want to stand all the evening. Any more details that are required can be had via the LMUG web site. -- Michael Corgan Chairman London Macintosh User Group See us on www.lmug.org.uk -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company [EMAIL PROTECTED] /x-flowed - End forwarded message -
Re: archiving
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane cannisters as a child? We *all* used to do *that* :-) .robin. -- A man, a plan, a cat, a ham, a yak, a yam, a hat, a canal--Panama! --Guy Jacobson
Re: archiving
* Andrew Bowman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane cannisters as a child? I guess that goes with the accent Greg ;-) If you hadn't discovered Perl goodness knows what you'd be doing now... Blowing up members of the conservative party no doubt Curse you Perl! ;-) [ I don't want to hear any crap about this one liner from anyone, if you try to flame me about it i'm going to stick my hands over my ears and say `La la la, I can't hear you, La la la', Ok? ] Andrew. P.S. Did you do the old WD40 flamethrower trick too? childs play, however beyond pressurised flammable substances, i remember a particular stroke of genius from a northern irish camp site, where they had a diesel tank near the camp site, sure it was in the forest, but 20 yards beyond the tree line is not going to stop a pile of young northern irish arsenists. ah great and dangerous days, Greg -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: archiving
* at 03/04 13:55 +0100 Greg McCarroll said: * Robin Houston ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:54PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane cannisters as a child? We *all* used to do *that* :-) snip content="tales of madness and danger from the dark mccarroll past"/ So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? aren't they no fun in that all they do is sent a cease and desist letter rather than get involved in pointless debates? plus do we really want people coming round a seizing our computers as evidence? (well, not unless it's covered by household insurance as mine's looking a bit elderly these days) struan
RE: archiving
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56 So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? Where do I start? * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology. * Scientologists believe that humans are descended from clams. * Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were both scientologists. There's a rumour that their (exactly) ten year marriage was a scientology contract drawn up to cover up the fact that they're both gay. * Scientologists pay huge sums of money to buy "secrets" that are mirrored all over the internet. The "church" claims these are copyrighted and will do their best to close down any site carrying these. * The "church" was responsible for the closure of anon.penet.fi and recently forced Slashdot to edit some comments. * Loads more good stuff from Operation Clambake at http://www.xenu.net. Is that the sort of thing you wanted? Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: archiving
* at 03/04 14:17 +0100 dcross - David Cross said: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56 So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? Where do I start? * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology. * Scientologists believe that humans are descended from clams. * Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman were both scientologists. There's a rumour that their (exactly) ten year marriage was a scientology contract drawn up to cover up the fact that they're both gay. * Scientologists pay huge sums of money to buy "secrets" that are mirrored all over the internet. The "church" claims these are copyrighted and will do their best to close down any site carrying these. * The "church" was responsible for the closure of anon.penet.fi and recently forced Slashdot to edit some comments. * Loads more good stuff from Operation Clambake at http://www.xenu.net. Is that the sort of thing you wanted? you'll have those illumnati round your house this evening.. or is that david ike? struan and you forgot the machines for exorcising the space aliens from your head. or something like that.
More Scientology stuff, ignore if you are not interested was Re: archiving
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56 So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? Where do I start? * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology. as in CoS "People should be free to believe whatever they want, including Scientology. What I have against CoS is its deceitfulness, its lack of compassion for its members (especially the hard-working staff), its aggressive hard sell, its arrogance, its attack on free speech, its litigiousness, its harassment of its critics, its lack of concern for families, its gross neglect and abuse of children, etc. " from http://www.xenu.net/cb-faq.html you can also help out at http://www.xenu.net/support.html Is that the sort of thing you wanted? exactly dave, it makes me feel that the archive have some use! -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Question
Hi Folks - In a (possibly vain) attempt to think ahead, I am looking for some info on London-based Perl jobs. I have about 3/4 months experience in Perl programming, and ideally would like to stay in the city area. Anyone know of some good places to start? Thanks James -- insert [sig] here -- --- The Totalise Email system, probably the most flexible email system in the world. To register for an account goto http://www.totalise.net
RE: archiving
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: * Scientologists pay huge sums of money to buy "secrets" that are mirrored all over the internet. The "church" claims these are copyrighted and will do their best to close down any site carrying these. -- The information contained in this communication is ^^ confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are ^^^ hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or ^^^ copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Is it just me that finds your disclaimer really quite funny in context? :) Hey!!! That took the legal team at Acxiom (US) months to come upt with :) Andy (Acxiom Employee :()
Re: Legal Disclaimers on Email (was: Re: archiving)
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dominic Mitchell wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:56:27AM -0400, Andy Williams wrote: [snip] Hey!!! That took the legal team at Acxiom (US) months to come upt with :) And what do they know about UK law? Sweet FA I guess. I have pointed this out to our "management team", but I'm just a lowly perl hacker, what would I know. Andy
Re: archiving
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 02:17:01PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? Where do I start? Posting the fishman affidavit should do it. ;) * The "church" was responsible for the closure of anon.penet.fi and recently forced Slashdot to edit some comments. Forced is a bit strong. They used the (Broken) DMCA law and told Slashdot what to do. Slashdot realized that this wasn't every-ones favourite bad guy Microsoft and realized that they had not a leg to stand on. The reason i have such a jaded view of this is that the situation was very similar to the Microsoft Kerberus one and Slashdot held their ground over that one. Also it was amusing to see the comments praising the decision to back down and remove the article. Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
Jedi
I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down "Jedi". This is a Good Thing :-) Spread the word. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
RE: Jedi
Title: RE: Jedi Dave used his mastery of the dark side and suggested: I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official and rather than use his usual agnostic box, he was going to put down Jedi. This is a Good Thing :-) Spread the word. I can get my whole household signed up to that! Darren Clarke Padouin
Re: Jedi
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:55PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down "Jedi". This is a Good Thing :-) Spread the word. It started in the NZ census a short while ago: http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/05/0252249.shtml -Dom
Crazy Idea
How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
going extreme
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5424853.html?tag=lh jp
RE: Crazy Idea
Title: RE: Crazy Idea Greg came up with the excellent suggestion: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Is the cider compulsory or can other fermented fruit|vegetable|grain products be imbibed? Either way I would be up for it! I shall have to brush up on my ghost stories :¬) Darren Clarke Padawan (which is what I meant earlier when I wrote padouin...)
Re: Jedi
Dominic Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 01:36:55PM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: I was listening to 5 live in the car today and a caller pointed out that in the census, it takes 20,000 people to make a religion official and rather than use his usual "agnostic" box, he was going to put down "Jedi". This is a Good Thing :-) Spread the word. It started in the NZ census a short while ago: http://slashdot.org/articles/01/03/05/0252249.shtml I never said it was original :-) And it sounds like the guy who is running the UK census is possibly the one who did the Kiwi one. -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Cool idea. I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;) Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Why the hell not. The farm which I believe Greg has in mind (www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead. Yum! -- David Cantrell | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.cantrell.org.uk/david/ This is a signature. There are many like it but this one is mine. ** I read encrypted mail first, so encrypt if your message is important **
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. That *is* a mad idea. I like it. Muahahaha. - Lucy McWilliam Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Flychip Tel: +44 (0)1223 765927 Department of Genetics Fax: +44 (0)1223 333992 University of Cambridge Mobile: 07939 476024 CB2 3EH WWW: www.bio.cam.ac.uk/~lejm3 "With a face like this I won't break any hearts. If I think like that I won't make any friends."
RE: Crazy Idea
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 15:29 How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
RE: Crazy Idea
From: David Cantrell [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Why the hell not. The farm which I believe Greg has in mind (www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead. Yum! And do they supply Butane canisters and matches too? ;-) Andrew.
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Cool, it may even spur me into getting the van a little more habitable than it currently is. -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crazy Idea
dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil replacement. Volunteers for a rescue party step forward.
Re: Crazy Idea
* Clarke, Darren ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Greg came up with the excellent suggestion: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Is the cider compulsory or can other fermented fruit|vegetable|grain products be imbibed? they also do some great organic beer, of course you bring whatever you like anyway I shall have to brush up on my ghost stories :) i've got a great one, it starts out with a monster attacking a gypsy campsite and killing all but a few, however they place a curse on him, which means he has an conscience . -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Crazy Idea
* Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to organise this -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Crazy Idea
Well, it /would/ give me an excuse to buy all that cool outdoor stuff I want (yes, of course I need that 200ukp sleeping bag...) On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary collection of sharp edges. Tony
RE: Crazy Idea
From: Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil replacement. Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM. Andrew.
Re: Crazy Idea
At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Count me in. I have a tent and everything ! Simon.
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:48:15PM +0100, Simon Wistow wrote: Volunteers for a rescue party step forward. Do we get guns, lots of guns? -- Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Crazy Idea
On 03/04/2001 at 16:40 +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;) Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. 'Britain is open for business. That means you can visit cities, towns, villages and thousands of places all over the country just as you have always done, and more places are opening each day. A day out, or a weekend break, or a longer holiday can still be enormous fun, and just as relaxing as it ever was.' http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/ Anyway, this fails on the 'crazy' test unless dawn til dusk walks are included as part of a healthy regime. -- :: paul :: how fickle fate can be
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:52:52PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to organise this London PM and the Labour govenernment... which will act first? Irresistible force meets immovable object ;) Dean -- Profanity is the one language all programmers understand --- Anon
RE: Crazy Idea
From: Simon Wistow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:48 dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil replacement. /me misparsed that completely as "FHM issue". I have no excuse. Volunteers for a rescue party step forward. Please! Dave... [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...] -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
RE: Crazy Idea
From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:53 * Simon Wistow ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: dcross - David Cross wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to organise this Of course. Fair point. This should be organised about the time of the _next_ foot mouth outbreak :) Don't the merkans do something like this (the camping, not the FM)? They call it "Camp Camel" - which always brings strange pictures to my mind... Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Somebody wrote Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to organise this *shock* You used the 'o' word. L. "The vultures are descending. And they've got spoons!"
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. I can probably be relied upon to bring a greater than strictly necessary collection of sharp edges. I have a pointy stick especially for the toasting of marshmallows. I kid you not. L. "Bring your haddock to the paddock."
Re: Crazy Idea
* at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: From: Simon Wistow [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into ^^^ Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? /me suspects Dave may have been kidnapped and replaced by a dozier, evil replacement. Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM. well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :) struan
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Mison wrote: http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/ Kewl. Is it GPL? Tony
RE: Crazy Idea
From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:40 On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Dean wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out I'll come if we can have marshmallows ;) Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. /me wonders if Lucy realises just how on-topic "Mr Pointy" is for this list. Dave... -- The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
when are we going to see the caaaamels
can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon? davorg? can we davorg? z -- dha CAMEL CAMEL CAMEL! you just have to redefine fun locally
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote: * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM. well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :) Is dave cross written in Perl? MBM (thinks his visual parser algorithms are probably written in BASIC :( ) -- Matthew Byng-Maddick Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 20 8980 5714 (Home) http://colondot.net/ Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +44 7956 613942 (Mobile) Science is built up of facts, as a house with stones. But a collection of facts is no more a science than a heap of stones is a house. -- Poincare
Re: Crazy Idea
In message D3AF8264E04FD311A18200508B12B1D5037C84AA@SRVLON20, dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave... [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...] Should I call Mulder and Scully? -- rob partington % [EMAIL PROTECTED] % http://lynx.browser.org/
Re: archiving
Did you all know that i used to blow up pressurised butane cannisters as a child? No, but I'm hardly surprised... -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "i don't play lead. it interferes with my drinking." - Malcolm Young
RE: Crazy Idea
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: Lucy McWilliam [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mmm. I shall bring Mr Pointy. All subject to FMD of course. /me wonders if Lucy realises just how on-topic "Mr Pointy" is for this list. Oh, I do... L. "For puppies! And Christmas!"
Re: Crazy Idea
* at 03/04 17:21 +0100 Matthew Byng-Maddick said: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Struan Donald wrote: * at 03/04 16:47 +0100 Andrew Bowman said: Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM. well, that unstructured data is difficult tp parse :) Is dave cross written in Perl? well no[1] but if it's hard to parse in perl... s [1] not that i have any evidence one way or the other...
RE: Crazy Idea
From: Rob Partington [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 17:24 In message D3AF8264E04FD311A18200508B12B1D5037C84AA@SRVLON20, dcross - David Cross [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave... [thing are getting strange, i'm starting to worry...] Should I call Mulder and Scully? Was trying to think of updated lyrics to this over the weekend. Things are getting strange, I'm starting to forget. This could be a case for Scully and Doggett. Dave... The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
RE: when are we going to see the caaaamels
From: jo walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:15 can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon? davorg? can we davorg? Er... yes... I suppose so. /me makes a mental note to work out who is entitled to camel tickets. I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know. Dave... The information contained in this communication is confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message or any copy of it from your computer system.
Re: when are we going to see the caaaamels
Yes please, before our tickets run out /Robert From: "jo walsh" [EMAIL PROTECTED] can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon? davorg? can we davorg? z
List jumping ? [was] RE: when are we going to see the caaaamels
Is there list jumping going on ? I seem to be getting about half the traffic this afternoon. frinstance, I didn't get the original post this replies to. At 17:29 03/04/2001 +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: From: jo walsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 16:15 can we go now that it is spring? some sunday afternoon soon? davorg? can we davorg? Er... yes... I suppose so. /me makes a mental note to work out who is entitled to camel tickets. I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know. Dave...
Re: Madness! It's Madness!!
dcross - David Cross wrote: Damian's been busy over the last couple of weeks and has produced a load of documentation on what he thinks Perl 6 _might_ be like. It's at http://www.yetanother.org/damian/Perl5+i/. Also, Larry's released the first part (Apocalypse) of his perl6 plans. http://www.perl.com/ has it, and it should percolate through perl6-announce soon. Nat
Re: Crazy Idea
Richard Clamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Cool, it may even spur me into getting the van a little more habitable than it currently is. Uh, oh. Locked in a barn with a van, some welding gear and assorted bits of steel... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
RE: Crazy Idea
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote: Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? maybe ... do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;) -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Buffy riding a pony!
May I forward your post to one of my company's internal humour/perl lists? -- mike
Re: when are we going to see the caaaamels
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:29:58PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know. I think they would get a little upset if you started slicing up the camels. -- There is no distinction between any AI program and some existent game.
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:21:48PM +0100, Matthew Byng-Maddick wrote: Is dave cross written in Perl? "Dave Cross Munging with Perl" ISAGN. -- Only two things are infinite: the universe and human ignorance. -A. Einstein
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 04:47:02PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote: Either that or he misread FM as SM, or, worse, FHM. "Worse"? You haven't seen those Alyson Hannigan pictures, have you? :-) dha -- David H. Adler - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.panix.com/~dha/ "If it's not Jewish, it's CRAP!:)" - IsraelBeta on #DWC
True Scientology Story (was Re: More Scientology stuff, ignore ifyou are not interested was Re: archiving)
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: From: Greg McCarroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 April 2001 13:56 So, should we start baiting Scientologists through the archive? Where do I start? * L Ron Hubbard is on record as saying the best way to make money is to start a religion. A few years later he founded the church of scientology. as in CoS "People should be free to believe whatever they want, including Scientology. What I have against CoS is its deceitfulness, its lack of compassion for its members (especially the hard-working staff), its aggressive hard sell, its arrogance, its attack on free speech, its litigiousness, its harassment of its critics, its lack of concern for families, its gross neglect and abuse of children, etc. " from http://www.xenu.net/cb-faq.html you can also help out at http://www.xenu.net/support.html Is that the sort of thing you wanted? exactly dave, it makes me feel that the archive have some use! I have one Scientology story - A couple of years ago I was in East Grinstead hospital (thing 'Guinea Pig Club') while they were trying to fix the little finger on my right hand ( they failed but thats another story ). There was this nice Maori guy in the bed next to me out of his head on pain-killers as he had third degree burns on his arms. Anyhow it transpired that he was part of a Maori dancing troupe that was doing some cultural tour at the behest of the Church of Scientology whose european headquarters happen to be in East Grinstead. The second day I was in the hospital I was beginning to get a little pissed off as you do and this party of bloody Scientology Auditors came along and started doing their thing with this geezer with only the merest of hospital screens around - I dont think that they get out the old baked bean can and avometer device ( Oooh sorry E-Meter ) but you can never be too sure - and this started going on for seeming hours and I was that bored that I had started reading Bjarne Stroustrup' book again. I'm not going to bore you with the details of wahat the prats were going o about but needless to say it could be deduced from Hubbards earlier writings and the basic milieu of cod spychology of the early sixties ... I complained to the staff and they said it pissed them off too but they got a lot of them in being the HQ and everything and they couldnt do much about it /J\
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David Cantrell wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Why the hell not. The farm which I believe Greg has in mind (www.middlefarm.com) also sells mead. Yum! Ah, Middle Farm . this sounds like an idea - and its in the same county as me :) /J\
The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, AEF wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Paul Mison wrote: http://www.openbritain.gov.uk/ Kewl. Is it GPL? OK. SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the project on slashdot I'm not entirely sure the GPL is adequate for licensing a Constitution but who knows :) /J\
Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:56:25PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK. SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the project on slashdot Bizarrely enough, I'm involved a project to do something *similar* for the Japanese code of laws... -- I forgot that I was *that* smart! -- Ilya Zakharevich
sub BEGIN {}
Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? Martin
Re: sub BEGIN {}
On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Martin Ling wrote: Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? YOu havent been around here very long have you :) /J\
Re: sub BEGIN {}
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:23:15PM +0100, Jonathan Stowe wrote: Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? YOu havent been around here very long have you :) Indeed, that was just my observation on a few posts' worth. Who *knows* what I might conclude about a whole day's traffic.. Martin
Re: when are we going to see the caaaamels
I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know. I owe you for 1-2 slices.
Re: The Open Constitution Project (was Re: Crazy Idea)
On Tue 03 Apr, Jonathan Stowe wrote: OK. SO we persuade Mr Horne to blag us electronic copies of the entire UK law, upload it to the CVS server on SourceForge and then announce the project on slashdot Why me ... ? (Quite a bit is getting onto http://www.bailii.org , run by the Aussies, although I am not convinced that their software is as good as they claim at http://elj.warwick.ac.uk/jilt/LegInfo/97_2gree/default.htm ) Roger -- Roger Horne 11 New Square, Lincoln's Inn, London WC2A 3QB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hrothgar.co.uk/
Re: sub BEGIN {}
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:31:12PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: Indeed, that was just my observation on a few posts' worth. Who *knows* what I might conclude about a whole day's traffic.. ..that you need to put your London.pm folder on its own spanning compressed partition. Paul
Re: when are we going to see the caaaamels
On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:29:58PM +0100, dcross - David Cross wrote: I anyone thinks they owe for a slice, plesae let me know. I think they would get a little upset if you started slicing up the camels. maybe ... maybe not ... there is a safari park ~ 1mile down the road from me. All you need to know is: There are several cattle farms around here. Foot and Mouth is in the area Amongst other things, Elephants are on 'the list' Its the wrong time of the year for bar-b-q really ... still .. a few oak chippings and a bit of that special 'smokey' sauce and it should be OK ... wot you reckon, bun and a few onions or baked potatoes? -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: sub BEGIN {}
Jonathan Stowe wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, David H. Adler wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:57PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? And drunks! Don't forget drunks! Yeah, yeah drunks, skateboarders, musicians . ...geeks, goths, jugglers, Natscis. And that's just me. L. "The sun always shines on TV."
Re: Crazy Idea
* Paul Mison ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Anyway, this fails on the 'crazy' test unless dawn til dusk walks are included as part of a healthy regime. thats where our definitions of crazy differ, for instance i think its fairly crazy to drag a pile of london.pm'ers into a forest, get them drunk and watch the chaos. your definition of crazy involves straight jackets or joining the SDLP ;-) -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Crazy Idea
* Lucy McWilliam ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 3 Apr 2001, Greg McCarroll wrote: * Somebody wrote Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? i was using the working assumption, that the time for the FM ban to be lifted was less than the time required for london.pm to organise this *shock* You used the 'o' word. its ok, we can do the organisation as long as we have the greg school of organisation in play, it will basically mean agreeing with Dave Can. when he can take his `people carrier' to sussex - the announcing the weekend in advance and refusing to change it. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Crazy Idea
* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2001, you wrote: Hmmm. Do the words "foot" and "mouth" mean nothing to you? maybe ... do the words 'I have my own field' mean anything to you ;) yip, but its probably not near sussex and you really don't want a 5 ft radius circle of charcoal left in it -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Crazy Idea
* Simon Wilcox ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: At 15:29 03/04/2001 +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. Count me in. I have a tent and everything ! any you have the ``right'' attitude when it comes to beer and explosives -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Crazy Idea
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Don't the merkans do something like this (the camping, not the FM)? They call it "Camp Camel" - which always brings strange pictures to my mind... they just don't do these things right, half their organisation efforts will concentrate on muffins as opposed to explosives -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: sub BEGIN {}
* David H. Adler ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:12:57PM +0100, Martin Ling wrote: Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? And drunks! Don't forget drunks! drunk crazy buffy fans -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Crazy Idea
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:29:04PM +0100, Greg McCarroll wrote: How would people in London.pm like a one night camp out, subject to the FM issue going away. The plan would be - we bundle into vehicles on a given afternoon (probably saturday), go to a farm shop and get lots of cider, and then spend the night around a camp fire, drinking and talking. But where would we find a camping ground with a fast net connection and wireless LAN connections? Alex -- "I ask for so little. Just let me rule you, and you can have everything that you want." - Jareth, Labyrinth
Re: sub BEGIN {}
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:22:38AM +0100, Lucy McWilliam wrote: Yeah, yeah drunks, skateboarders, musicians . ...geeks, goths, jugglers, Natscis. And that's just me. I raise you (at least) two accomplished unicyclists... Paul, whose uni got nicked in fscking cambridge. "Ooh, it's got a wheel! Not the usual two, but fuck it, let's steal it anyway!"
Re: sub BEGIN {}
At 21:12 03/04/2001, you wrote: Oh, so this list was a bunch of nutters and Buffy fans the whole time and no-one told me? Yeah. Sorry. We should probably make that clearer :) Dave... -- http://www.dave.org.uk SMS: [EMAIL PROTECTED] plugData Munging with Perl http://www.manning.com/cross//plug