Re: Wavelan

2001-04-11 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, you wrote:

> > http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=WIREL claim delivery 3 days,
> > but whether they are what you want or how their prices compare I have no idea.
> > (Cheap & efficient when I bought my Psion netBook some time ago.)

> I'll phone em in the morning ...

'Hello there .. have you got any .. blah'  ..'let me just check ... no ..
we'd have to get them from our suppliers ..' 'OK .. how long will that
take?' 'it depends if they have any in stock themselves ...' 'OK have
they got any in stock then' 'I don;t know sir, I'd have to ask my
colleague'   'err are you going to ask your colleague then?' 'he
might not know either sir' 

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-10 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> On Tue 10 Apr, Robin Szemeti wrote:
>  
> > and .. should I ever find any of the Lucent/Orinoco/Agere Wavelan cards
> > I'll buy them in a Flash(tm) .. neither freebsd services or your mates in
> > Norwich have any .. infact no one does :( ...
> 
> http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=WIREL claim delivery 3 days,
> but whether they are what you want or how their prices compare I have no idea.
> (Cheap & efficient when I bought my Psion netBook some time ago.)

well I am way beyond the bothering about cheapness stage .. I just want
one (or two even, and an ISA card ..) :)

I'll phone em in the morning ...

cheers

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-10 Thread Roger Horne

On Tue 10 Apr, Robin Szemeti wrote:
 
> and .. should I ever find any of the Lucent/Orinoco/Agere Wavelan cards
> I'll buy them in a Flash(tm) .. neither freebsd services or your mates in
> Norwich have any .. infact no one does :( ...

http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=WIREL claim delivery 3 days,
but whether they are what you want or how their prices compare I have no idea.
(Cheap & efficient when I bought my Psion netBook some time ago.)

Roger
-- 
Roger Horne
11 New Square, Lincoln's Inn, London WC2A 3QB
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.hrothgar.co.uk/




Re: Wavelan

2001-04-10 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, you wrote:

> Better late than never, check out 
> http://www.live.com/wireless/unix-base-station.html
> which looks like exactly what you want to achieve.
> 
> Got this link from the Bay Area Wireless User Group pages 
> (http://www.bawug.org) which also look like quite a cool resource.

that is indeedly doodly exactly what I want to acieve ..

and .. should I ever find any of the Lucent/Orinoco/Agere Wavelan cards
I'll buy them in a Flash(tm) .. neither freebsd services or your mates in
Norwich have any .. infact no one does :( ...

Dell who had been ace up until this point advertise the cards, but don;t
actually stock them or indeed know their arse from their elbow ... sales
of computers theyre ace, aftersales bits and pieces is a joke.

> The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS had me salivating
> :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think.

mmm :) .. well its all DSSS gps/ networking etc .. pretty much the same :)

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-10 Thread Neil Ford

On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 02:36:31PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote:
> > From:   Neil Ford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS
> > had me salivating :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think.
> 
> Where was GPS mentioned? I had a good hunt round (by myself and with the
> assistance of the Altavista host: search parameter) but couldn't find it.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Andrew.
> 
It's in the mailing list archive;
http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-April/000679.html

This link was also in last weeks NTK.

Neil.
-- 
Neil C. Ford
Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com



RE: Wavelan

2001-04-10 Thread Andrew Bowman

> From: Neil Ford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS
> had me salivating :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think.

Where was GPS mentioned? I had a good hunt round (by myself and with the
assistance of the Altavista host: search parameter) but couldn't find it.

Thanks,

Andrew.




Re: Wavelan

2001-04-10 Thread Neil Ford

On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:29:56PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> 
> my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4
> cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA
> adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned
> I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a
> 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as
> half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do
> know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to
> the states ... 
> 
Better late than never, check out 
http://www.live.com/wireless/unix-base-station.html
which looks like exactly what you want to achieve.

Got this link from the Bay Area Wireless User Group pages 
(http://www.bawug.org) which also look like quite a cool resource.

The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS had me salivating
:-) Time to buy an eTrek I think.

Neil.
-- 
Neil C. Ford
Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-03 Thread Greg McCarroll

* Steve Mynott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > yes .. I'd heard Airport was good ..  can you still configuer it if you
> > don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration
> > to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge?
> 
> It does NAT by default and basically works without configuration

Nah the best thing about the Airport is that it looks like a
UFO, now if Apple would only release an Earth Forces Star Fighter ... ;-)

> (which was just as well since I didn't have either a windows or macos
> box to use).
> 

you can configure an Airport with a Java program on linux, i
think the jar file is called AirportConfigurator.jar or some
other imaginative title.

-- 
Greg McCarroll  http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-03 Thread Steve Mynott

Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> yes .. I'd heard Airport was good ..  can you still configuer it if you
> don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration
> to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge?

It does NAT by default and basically works without configuration
(which was just as well since I didn't have either a windows or macos
box to use).

-- 
1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED]

grief can take care of itself, but to get the full value of joy you must
 have somebody to divide it with.  -- mark twain



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-03 Thread mallum

Yes it DOES work.

I run an Orinocco in an ELSA pcmcia-isa card ( about 35 quid ) on my gateway
at home. Just make sure you use the latest pcmcia stuff and run the cards in
'Ad-Hoc' mode. Theres no need for bridging either, Linux seems to happily 
ferry packets from wired to wireless ( and vise versa) with justa bit of 
subnetting.

mallum

on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 08:24:32AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4
> > cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA
> > adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned
> > I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a
> > 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as
> > half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do
> > know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to
> > the states ... 
> 
> Should work between the two cards, just make sure you have some
> crossover aether between the two...
> 
> -- 
> Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
> Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
> Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
>  
> 



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-03 Thread Dave Hodgkinson

Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4
> cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA
> adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned
> I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a
> 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as
> half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do
> know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to
> the states ... 

Should work between the two cards, just make sure you have some
crossover aether between the two...

-- 
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star   http://www.deep-purple.com
  Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
   



RE: Wavelan

2001-04-02 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> Robin Szemeti wrote on Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:29 PM
> > 
> > > I'm assuming you already have a basestation. If not, you'll 
> > probably be wanting
> > > one of those too. I can personally recommend the Apple 
> > Airport basestation
> > 
> > yes .. I'd heard Airport was good ..  can you still configuer 
> > it if you
> > don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any 
> > configuration
> > to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge?
> > 
> 
> I use the Apple airport and a Farallon Skyline 11mb pcmcia card - the
> Airport is connected to a Linksys router (A great piece of kit) into my DSL
> modem (It's the DSL bit that's shit). Configuring the Apple Airport isn't
> too hard - there are a number of custom made configurators out there, some
> VB, some Java (just do a web search) - If I recall there's hardly anything
> you need to do. There's also one with the Farallon card.

my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4
cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA
adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned
I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a
'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as
half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do
know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to
the states ... 

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



RE: Wavelan

2001-04-02 Thread Andy Mendelsohn

Robin Szemeti wrote on Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:29 PM
> 
> > I'm assuming you already have a basestation. If not, you'll 
> probably be wanting
> > one of those too. I can personally recommend the Apple 
> Airport basestation
> 
> yes .. I'd heard Airport was good ..  can you still configuer 
> it if you
> don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any 
> configuration
> to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge?
> 

I use the Apple airport and a Farallon Skyline 11mb pcmcia card - the
Airport is connected to a Linksys router (A great piece of kit) into my DSL
modem (It's the DSL bit that's shit). Configuring the Apple Airport isn't
too hard - there are a number of custom made configurators out there, some
VB, some Java (just do a web search) - If I recall there's hardly anything
you need to do. There's also one with the Farallon card.

andy



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-01 Thread Robin Szemeti

On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, you wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 09:14:22PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > Anybody care to suggest a decent purveyor of the Lucent Wavelan cards?? 

> My two recommended suppliers are; 
> http;//www.compconnect.co.uk
> web http://www.freebsd-services.co.uk

ta muchly .. off to surf :)

> I'm assuming you already have a basestation. If not, you'll probably be wanting
> one of those too. I can personally recommend the Apple Airport basestation

yes .. I'd heard Airport was good ..  can you still configuer it if you
don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration
to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge?

> and I've heard good things of the Orinoco Residential Gateway.

umm .. the Orinoco residential thing .. that seems to have a load of stuff
I don't need like ISDN access and modems ... I was planning on just
bunging a PCI adapter in the border router with an external aerial and
configuring IPCHAINS to send the appropriate stuff down the approprite
intefaces .. the residential gateway seems fine for most uses, but I dint
fancy letting un firewalled packets straight out of my ISDN into the
ether and thence laptops etc,   the PCI adaptor/card solution should work
out about 100 quid cheaper.

so I think I'm settled on the ORINOCO PC Card - Gold really as my
solution. I was having trouble finding a Lucent supplier, various people
stock various things but it seems hard to find the bit I actually want ...

I rather fancied the proper Lucent/Orinoco ethernet/wavelan access point
thing that you screw on the wall .. except the'yre 600 quid a throw
..hell, thats more than I pay for a whole boxen!

thanks for the info I'll give the two places an e-mail.

-- 
Robin Szemeti

The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!



Re: Wavelan

2001-04-01 Thread Neil Ford

On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 09:14:22PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote:
> Anybody care to suggest a decent purveyor of the Lucent Wavelan cards?? 
> 
> My new laptop has declared itself unwilling to be shackled by network
> cables and demands a nice Wavelan card 
> 
> If the decent purveyor of cards was also a cheap purveyor as well that
> would be a bonus. My search of the usual suspects [qw/insight dabs
> bluepoint/] failed to reveal a source.
> 
Robin

My two recommended suppliers are;

Computer Connection
22 Falcon Street
Ipswich
Suffolk
IP1 1SL 
England

tel +44 (0)1473 232282
fax +44 (0)1473 210565
   
http;//www.compconnect.co.uk
   
FreeBSD Services Ltd
11 Lapwing Close
Bicester
OX26 6XR

phone +44 (0)1869 363956
fax +44 (0)1869 363957

web http://www.freebsd-services.co.uk

I'm assuming you already have a basestation. If not, you'll probably be wanting
one of those too. I can personally recommend the Apple Airport basestation and
I've heard good things of the Orinoco Residential Gateway.

Neil.