Re: Wavelan
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, you wrote: > > http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=WIREL claim delivery 3 days, > > but whether they are what you want or how their prices compare I have no idea. > > (Cheap & efficient when I bought my Psion netBook some time ago.) > I'll phone em in the morning ... 'Hello there .. have you got any .. blah' ..'let me just check ... no .. we'd have to get them from our suppliers ..' 'OK .. how long will that take?' 'it depends if they have any in stock themselves ...' 'OK have they got any in stock then' 'I don;t know sir, I'd have to ask my colleague' 'err are you going to ask your colleague then?' 'he might not know either sir' -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Wavelan
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, you wrote: > On Tue 10 Apr, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > > and .. should I ever find any of the Lucent/Orinoco/Agere Wavelan cards > > I'll buy them in a Flash(tm) .. neither freebsd services or your mates in > > Norwich have any .. infact no one does :( ... > > http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=WIREL claim delivery 3 days, > but whether they are what you want or how their prices compare I have no idea. > (Cheap & efficient when I bought my Psion netBook some time ago.) well I am way beyond the bothering about cheapness stage .. I just want one (or two even, and an ISA card ..) :) I'll phone em in the morning ... cheers -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Wavelan
On Tue 10 Apr, Robin Szemeti wrote: > and .. should I ever find any of the Lucent/Orinoco/Agere Wavelan cards > I'll buy them in a Flash(tm) .. neither freebsd services or your mates in > Norwich have any .. infact no one does :( ... http://www.expansys.com/category.asp?cat=WIREL claim delivery 3 days, but whether they are what you want or how their prices compare I have no idea. (Cheap & efficient when I bought my Psion netBook some time ago.) Roger -- Roger Horne 11 New Square, Lincoln's Inn, London WC2A 3QB mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.hrothgar.co.uk/
Re: Wavelan
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, you wrote: > Better late than never, check out > http://www.live.com/wireless/unix-base-station.html > which looks like exactly what you want to achieve. > > Got this link from the Bay Area Wireless User Group pages > (http://www.bawug.org) which also look like quite a cool resource. that is indeedly doodly exactly what I want to acieve .. and .. should I ever find any of the Lucent/Orinoco/Agere Wavelan cards I'll buy them in a Flash(tm) .. neither freebsd services or your mates in Norwich have any .. infact no one does :( ... Dell who had been ace up until this point advertise the cards, but don;t actually stock them or indeed know their arse from their elbow ... sales of computers theyre ace, aftersales bits and pieces is a joke. > The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS had me salivating > :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think. mmm :) .. well its all DSSS gps/ networking etc .. pretty much the same :) -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Wavelan
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 02:36:31PM +0100, Andrew Bowman wrote: > > From: Neil Ford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS > > had me salivating :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think. > > Where was GPS mentioned? I had a good hunt round (by myself and with the > assistance of the Altavista host: search parameter) but couldn't find it. > > Thanks, > > Andrew. > It's in the mailing list archive; http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-April/000679.html This link was also in last weeks NTK. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
RE: Wavelan
> From: Neil Ford [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS > had me salivating :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think. Where was GPS mentioned? I had a good hunt round (by myself and with the assistance of the Altavista host: search parameter) but couldn't find it. Thanks, Andrew.
Re: Wavelan
On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:29:56PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4 > cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA > adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned > I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a > 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as > half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do > know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to > the states ... > Better late than never, check out http://www.live.com/wireless/unix-base-station.html which looks like exactly what you want to achieve. Got this link from the Bay Area Wireless User Group pages (http://www.bawug.org) which also look like quite a cool resource. The perl script to do stuff with wireless scanning and GPS had me salivating :-) Time to buy an eTrek I think. Neil. -- Neil C. Ford Managing Director, Yet Another Computer Solutions Company Limited [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.yacsc.com
Re: Wavelan
* Steve Mynott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > yes .. I'd heard Airport was good .. can you still configuer it if you > > don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration > > to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge? > > It does NAT by default and basically works without configuration Nah the best thing about the Airport is that it looks like a UFO, now if Apple would only release an Earth Forces Star Fighter ... ;-) > (which was just as well since I didn't have either a windows or macos > box to use). > you can configure an Airport with a Java program on linux, i think the jar file is called AirportConfigurator.jar or some other imaginative title. -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
Re: Wavelan
Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > yes .. I'd heard Airport was good .. can you still configuer it if you > don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration > to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge? It does NAT by default and basically works without configuration (which was just as well since I didn't have either a windows or macos box to use). -- 1024/D9C69DF9 steve mynott [EMAIL PROTECTED] grief can take care of itself, but to get the full value of joy you must have somebody to divide it with. -- mark twain
Re: Wavelan
Yes it DOES work. I run an Orinocco in an ELSA pcmcia-isa card ( about 35 quid ) on my gateway at home. Just make sure you use the latest pcmcia stuff and run the cards in 'Ad-Hoc' mode. Theres no need for bridging either, Linux seems to happily ferry packets from wired to wireless ( and vise versa) with justa bit of subnetting. mallum on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 08:24:32AM +0100, Dave Hodgkinson wrote: > Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4 > > cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA > > adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned > > I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a > > 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as > > half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do > > know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to > > the states ... > > Should work between the two cards, just make sure you have some > crossover aether between the two... > > -- > Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org > Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com > Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy > >
Re: Wavelan
Robin Szemeti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4 > cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA > adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned > I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a > 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as > half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do > know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to > the states ... Should work between the two cards, just make sure you have some crossover aether between the two... -- Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com Interim CTO, web server farms, technical strategy
RE: Wavelan
On Mon, 02 Apr 2001, you wrote: > Robin Szemeti wrote on Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:29 PM > > > > > I'm assuming you already have a basestation. If not, you'll > > probably be wanting > > > one of those too. I can personally recommend the Apple > > Airport basestation > > > > yes .. I'd heard Airport was good .. can you still configuer > > it if you > > don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any > > configuration > > to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge? > > > > I use the Apple airport and a Farallon Skyline 11mb pcmcia card - the > Airport is connected to a Linksys router (A great piece of kit) into my DSL > modem (It's the DSL bit that's shit). Configuring the Apple Airport isn't > too hard - there are a number of custom made configurators out there, some > VB, some Java (just do a web search) - If I recall there's hardly anything > you need to do. There's also one with the Farallon card. my current plan of attack is probably 2 lucent/orinoco wavelan 128/RC4 cards .. one in the laptop .. one in the border router machine on an ISA adaptor .. one guy I spoke to reckoned it would work .. another reckoned I was an idjut (well we knew _that_ already ..) and you had to have a 'access point' not just two wavelan cards .. dunno which to believe as half the access points just have a wavelan card in them anyway ... I do know that they are piss expensive over here .. might wait till I go to the states ... -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
RE: Wavelan
Robin Szemeti wrote on Sunday, April 01, 2001 3:29 PM > > > I'm assuming you already have a basestation. If not, you'll > probably be wanting > > one of those too. I can personally recommend the Apple > Airport basestation > > yes .. I'd heard Airport was good .. can you still configuer > it if you > don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any > configuration > to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge? > I use the Apple airport and a Farallon Skyline 11mb pcmcia card - the Airport is connected to a Linksys router (A great piece of kit) into my DSL modem (It's the DSL bit that's shit). Configuring the Apple Airport isn't too hard - there are a number of custom made configurators out there, some VB, some Java (just do a web search) - If I recall there's hardly anything you need to do. There's also one with the Farallon card. andy
Re: Wavelan
On Sun, 01 Apr 2001, you wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 09:14:22PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: > > Anybody care to suggest a decent purveyor of the Lucent Wavelan cards?? > My two recommended suppliers are; > http;//www.compconnect.co.uk > web http://www.freebsd-services.co.uk ta muchly .. off to surf :) > I'm assuming you already have a basestation. If not, you'll probably be wanting > one of those too. I can personally recommend the Apple Airport basestation yes .. I'd heard Airport was good .. can you still configuer it if you don't have an apple to talk to it with? indeed is there any configuration to do .. or is it jusrt a plain ethernet bridge? > and I've heard good things of the Orinoco Residential Gateway. umm .. the Orinoco residential thing .. that seems to have a load of stuff I don't need like ISDN access and modems ... I was planning on just bunging a PCI adapter in the border router with an external aerial and configuring IPCHAINS to send the appropriate stuff down the approprite intefaces .. the residential gateway seems fine for most uses, but I dint fancy letting un firewalled packets straight out of my ISDN into the ether and thence laptops etc, the PCI adaptor/card solution should work out about 100 quid cheaper. so I think I'm settled on the ORINOCO PC Card - Gold really as my solution. I was having trouble finding a Lucent supplier, various people stock various things but it seems hard to find the bit I actually want ... I rather fancied the proper Lucent/Orinoco ethernet/wavelan access point thing that you screw on the wall .. except the'yre 600 quid a throw ..hell, thats more than I pay for a whole boxen! thanks for the info I'll give the two places an e-mail. -- Robin Szemeti The box said "requires windows 95 or better" So I installed Linux!
Re: Wavelan
On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 09:14:22PM +, Robin Szemeti wrote: > Anybody care to suggest a decent purveyor of the Lucent Wavelan cards?? > > My new laptop has declared itself unwilling to be shackled by network > cables and demands a nice Wavelan card > > If the decent purveyor of cards was also a cheap purveyor as well that > would be a bonus. My search of the usual suspects [qw/insight dabs > bluepoint/] failed to reveal a source. > Robin My two recommended suppliers are; Computer Connection 22 Falcon Street Ipswich Suffolk IP1 1SL England tel +44 (0)1473 232282 fax +44 (0)1473 210565 http;//www.compconnect.co.uk FreeBSD Services Ltd 11 Lapwing Close Bicester OX26 6XR phone +44 (0)1869 363956 fax +44 (0)1869 363957 web http://www.freebsd-services.co.uk I'm assuming you already have a basestation. If not, you'll probably be wanting one of those too. I can personally recommend the Apple Airport basestation and I've heard good things of the Orinoco Residential Gateway. Neil.