Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:27:51PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > Dominic Mitchell wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > > [unzip] > > > > > Which, according to its home page at > > > http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/UnZip.html , is "the > > > third most po

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-22 Thread Philip Newton
Dominic Mitchell wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > [unzip] > > > Which, according to its home page at > > http://www.info-zip.org/pub/infozip/UnZip.html , is "the > > third most portable program in the world". > > Probably after kermit and "hello world".

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-22 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:19:27PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote: > Robin Szemeti wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you wrote: > > > > > BTW - I've just had some fun trying to uncompress a .zip > > > file on Linux! tar gzip and gunzip don't seem to want to > > > know. Guess that makes me a luser! >

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-22 Thread Philip Newton
Robin Szemeti wrote: > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you wrote: > > > BTW - I've just had some fun trying to uncompress a .zip > > file on Linux! tar gzip and gunzip don't seem to want to > > know. Guess that makes me a luser! > > you need the unzip(1) Which, according to its home page at http://www.

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Jonathan Stowe
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:48:25PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:38:09PM +, David Cantrell wrote: > > > Then they deserve to be hurt. Really. We can't possibly support > > > dribbling idiots, and frankly, I have no

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you wrote: > BTW - I've just had some fun trying to uncompress a .zip file on Linux! tar > gzip and gunzip don't seem to want to know. Guess that makes me a luser! you need the unzip(1) NAMEunzip - list, test and extract compressed files in a ZI

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Gareth Harper
- Original Message - From: "Robert Shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 6:47 PM Subject: Re: Matt's Scripts Projects > .tar.gz - wtf is that, why isn't there a zip file. > > People keep misundersta

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Robert Shiels
> On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:48:25PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:38:09PM +, David Cantrell wrote: > > > > Then they deserve to be hurt. Really. We can't possibly support > > > > dribbling idiots, and frankly,

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Aaron Trevena
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, David Cantrell wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:48:25PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:38:09PM +, David Cantrell wrote: > > > Then they deserve to be hurt. Really. We can't possibly support > > > dribbling idiots, and frankly, I have no

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:48:25PM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 05:38:09PM +, David Cantrell wrote: > > Then they deserve to be hurt. Really. We can't possibly support > > dribbling idiots, and frankly, I have no wish to do so. If someone is > > scared by a .tar.g

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread David Cantrell
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:43:08AM -0500, Chris Devers wrote: > ...except that the Windows extension hiding feature only applies to files seen >through the normal filesystem tools (Windows Explorer, various dialog boxes, etc), >and not Internetty stuff. People might still be scared off by seein

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you wrote: > All this is pre-ir35: > > as a employee of a limited company you would be paid national minimum > > wage (4 quid an hour) .. you pay NIC and tax on that ... (minimal) .. you > > claim expenses off the (ie your own) company for all the driving around > > you do and

RE: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Chris Devers
At 04:07 PM 20.3.2001 +, you wrote: >> Not neccesary from a techical point of view. Neccesary from a >> social point of view (What's this extension! I don't understand! >> What's going on! > >Except that windows machines tend not to even show the extension by >default, and so the file w

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Redvers Davies
All this is pre-ir35: > as a employee of a limited company you would be paid national minimum > wage (4 quid an hour) .. you pay NIC and tax on that ... (minimal) .. you > claim expenses off the (ie your own) company for all the driving around > you do and having to buy things and accomodation whi

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Robin Szemeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:06 PM > Subject: Re: Matt's Scripts Projects > > > > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001,

RE: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Matthew Jones
> Not neccesary from a techical point of view. Neccesary from a social > point of view (What's this extension! I don't understand! > What's going on! Excewpt that windows machines tend not to even show the extension by default, and so the file will just have a little WinZip icon[0], which m

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Redvers Davies
> here. Those of you who have yor own company. Did you set yourselves up as > a Limited Company, or as a Sole Trader. If you set yourself up as a limited > company did/do you have liability insurance etc. Ltd, with insurance.

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread brianr
Marty Pauley writes: > On Tue Mar 20 11:46:25 2001, Gareth Harper wrote: > > On a completely off topic note I'm appealing to the contractors among you > > here. Those of you who have yor own company. Did you set yourselves up as > > a Limited Company, or as a Sole Trader. If you set yoursel

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 15:40 20/03/2001 +, Gareth Harper wrote: >- Original Message - >From: "Robin Szemeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:06 PM >Subject: Re: Matt's Scripts Projects > > > > On Tue, 20 M

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Gareth Harper
- Original Message - From: "Robin Szemeti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Matt's Scripts Projects > On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you wrote: > apart from that the benfits of running as a Limited C

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Robin Szemeti
On Tue, 20 Mar 2001, you wrote: > On Tue Mar 20 11:46:25 2001, Gareth Harper wrote: > > On a completely off topic note I'm appealing to the contractors among you > > here. Those of you who have yor own company. Did you set yourselves up as > > a Limited Company, or as a Sole Trader. If you set

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Marty Pauley
On Tue Mar 20 11:46:25 2001, Gareth Harper wrote: > On a completely off topic note I'm appealing to the contractors among you > here. Those of you who have yor own company. Did you set yourselves up as > a Limited Company, or as a Sole Trader. If you set yourself up as a limited > company did/d

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Gareth Harper
- Original Message - From: "Robert Shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2001 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Matt's Scripts Projects > > - Original Message - > > From: "Jonathan Stowe" <[EMAIL P

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Robert Shiels
> - Original Message - > From: "Jonathan Stowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > > > * Bundling. Need to build gzipped tarballs of our new versions (I > > guess > > > this should be built on top of the CVS stuff). Matt makes pkzipped > > > versions avaiable

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Dominic Mitchell
On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:51:26AM +, Michael Stevens wrote: > On Tue, Mar 20, 2001 at 11:46:25AM -, Gareth Harper wrote: > > Winzip (what most windows users these days use to unzip) handlers tar.gz by > > default so that may not be neccesary. > > Yes, but I think we should have .zip file

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Mark Fowler
On the subject of having zip archives as well as tarballs on the server, Gareth Harper said: > Winzip (what most windows users these days use to unzip) handlers tar.gz by > default so that may not be neccesary. Not neccesary from a techical point of view. Neccesary from a social point of view

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Gareth Harper
- Original Message - From: "Jonathan Stowe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > * Bundling. Need to build gzipped tarballs of our new versions (I > guess > > this should be built on top of the CVS stuff). Matt makes pkzipped > > versions avaiable as well - so

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-20 Thread Jonathan Stowe
Dave Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Seems like we've made a reasonable start on this project. We already > have a few scripts written - anyone want to report progress on any of > the others? I have Guestbook, FFA and simple search all ready to for testing elsewhere - I'll package and up

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 14:59 19/03/2001 +, Simon Wistow wrote: >Chris Devers wrote: > > > Probably, as is "The Matt's Wrong Archive", which is probably far > > too negative & obvious anyway... ;) > >But if Matt Sergeant put it up ... ... it would all be in XML ;-)

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Simon Wistow
Chris Devers wrote: > Probably, as is "The Matt's Wrong Archive", which is probably far > too negative & obvious anyway... ;) But if Matt Sergeant put it up ...

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Chris Devers
At 01:12 PM 19.3.2001 +, Simon Wilcox wrote: >At 12:40 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: >>It has occured to us we need a decent name for this. Discussion >>on IRC has concluded that: >> >> a) It shouldn't mention Matt in the title. > >So "Not the Matt Wright Archive" is out then ;-) Pro

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Robert Shiels
From: "Simon Wilcox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: 19 March 2001 13:34 Subject: Re: Matt's Scripts Projects > At 13:18 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: > >On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: > > > > > >

RE: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Simon Batistoni
> At 13:18 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: > >On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: > > > > > > b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies. > > > > > > How about EasyScripts ? the domain name is available, anyway. > > > >Not very perl, but I like it. Something similar though.

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 13:18 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: >On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: > > > > b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies. > > > > How about EasyScripts ? the domain name is available, anyway. > >Not very perl, but I like it. Something similar though. EasyPerlScripts

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Dave Cross
At Mon, 19 Mar 2001 12:27:57 + (GMT), jo walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > * CVS Repository (on Penderel?) > i can sort this, perhaps with veeghelp. > for leon and marcel's aspect oriented programming project we started a > /home/projects directory, we could put the not-matt stuff in the

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Mark Fowler
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Simon Wilcox wrote: > > b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies. > > How about EasyScripts ? the domain name is available, anyway. Not very perl, but I like it. Something similar though. > > c) It should sound at least semi-professional[1]. > > Can we ma

RE: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Clarke, Darren
Title: RE: Matt's Scripts Projects I was going to suggest 'Perl Is Simply Super' but frankly the acronym lets it down :¬P Regards, Darren Clarke Neophyte [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Simon Wilcox
At 12:40 19/03/2001 +, Mark Fowler wrote: >It has occured to us we need a decent name for this. Discussion on IRC >has concluded that: > > a) It shouldn't mention Matt in the title. So "Not the Matt Wright Archive" is out then ;-) > b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies.

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Mark Fowler
It has occured to us we need a decent name for this. Discussion on IRC has concluded that: a) It shouldn't mention Matt in the title. b) That is should have a name that appeals to newbies. c) It should sound at least semi-professional[1]. But apart from that we've been useless Later. Mark.

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread jo walsh
> * CVS Repository (on Penderel?) i can sort this, perhaps with veeghelp. for leon and marcel's aspect oriented programming project we started a /home/projects directory, we could put the not-matt stuff in there and CVS all of it, and make a dev group as well as the www group we are using now wou

Re: Matt's Scripts Projects

2001-03-19 Thread Mark Fowler
On Mon, 19 Mar 2001, Dave Cross wrote: > * Web page. Need somewhere to point potential users at. Probably two > versions - one for the developers and one for the users. This can be > a subdirectory on london.pm.org. I don't mind doing this bit of it. I would quite like the idea of creating a fe