> IIRC, Sim City is one of Ken Livingstone's favorites.
There can't be the option to revoke all bird feed sellers permits.
* Alex Page ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:27:18AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> > It should be mandatory for all public servants to be adept at Sim
> > City.
>
> IIRC, Sim City is one of Ken Livingstone's favorites.
>
yip, and all devoted Sim City fan's sooner or
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:34:31PM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
>
> > OK. We might as well do this quickly, how about Monday 12.30 at the
> > New World restaurant in Chinatown. Everyone who is vaguely interested
> > in a Perl Consultancy of some sort is
From: "Greg Cope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> No - just dont like the gun ho lets fry anyone on deathrow - and now a a
> great chestnut one of them got to be president ...
Fear not so much a leader of the Free World(tm) who is demonstrably unable to
form grammatically correct sentences in his one, only
> From: Paul Makepeace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> From: "David Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Is a million considered a lot in the UK still?
> >
> > Not by people who can add up.
>
> OK, same here then. Having said that, it's amazing how much people can
> stretch a few $currency_unit
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 03:34:31PM +, Leon Brocard wrote:
> OK. We might as well do this quickly, how about Monday 12.30 at the
> New World restaurant in Chinatown. Everyone who is vaguely interested
> in a Perl Consultancy of some sort is invited.
Count me in.
The New World's on Gerrard St
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:27:18AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> It should be mandatory for all public servants to be adept at Sim
> City.
IIRC, Sim City is one of Ken Livingstone's favorites.
Alex
At 14:55 19/01/01, Neil Ford wrote:
> >Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >Mmmm... so, when are we going to have a meeting about all this?
>Well seeing as I will be amongst the great unwashed from next week,
>anytime soon would be good.
Me too!
At 15:49 19/01/01, Dave Cross wrote:
>I'd love to come along, but probably wouldn't have time to get there
>and back during lunch. Can we do it one evening?
An evening would be better for me, too...
Natalie
Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:
>
> > Sounds like a table at the New World one lunchtime...
>
> OK. We might as well do this quickly, how about Monday 12.30 at the
> New World restaurant in Chinatown. Everyone who is vaguely
Dave Cross sent the following bits through the ether:
> I'd love to come along, but probably wouldn't have time to get there
> and back during lunch. Can we do it one evening?
OK, Penderel's Oak 6.30pm for those who can't make it to lunch. I'll
go to both and take notes.
Leon
--
Leon Brocard..
At Fri, 19 Jan 2001 15:34:31 +, Leon Brocard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:
>
> > Sounds like a table at the New World one lunchtime...
>
> OK. We might as well do this quickly, how about Monday 12.30 at the
> New World restaurant in C
Dave Hodgkinson sent the following bits through the ether:
> Sounds like a table at the New World one lunchtime...
OK. We might as well do this quickly, how about Monday 12.30 at the
New World restaurant in Chinatown. Everyone who is vaguely interested
in a Perl Consultancy of some sort is invit
Neil Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> >> Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >>
> >> > Big monitors on workstations are *not* rewards. They are essential
> >> > tools for the job. Anything smaller than 19" is rapidly approaching
> >>
Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Big monitors on workstations are *not* rewards. They are essential
> > tools for the job. Anything smaller than 19" is rapidly approaching
> > too cramped for serious work. TFT monitors on workstations a
> From: Greg McCarroll [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> write a suggestions document of where the project management and
> management functions are going wrong
>
> if they ignore it leave
Do you know anywhere this has happened Greg? ;-)
* Michael Stevens ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:32:16AM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
> > On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:42:11AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > > yes and no. If you need to do an allnighter and its unavoidable (due to a
> > > > client suddenly changing the
Piers Cawley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Big monitors on workstations are *not* rewards. They are essential
> tools for the job. Anything smaller than 19" is rapidly approaching
> too cramped for serious work. TFT monitors on workstations are
> rewards...
19" on the first port of the G400, a T
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:32:16AM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:42:11AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > yes and no. If you need to do an allnighter and its unavoidable (due to a
> > > client suddenly changing ther mind) then theres no problem doing it ..
> > > just
Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Greg Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > IMHO developers should be given the environment that is what makes them
> > confotable, an IBM research center was on the telly the other day that
> > had a big open plan style area, as well as individaul o
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:51:18PM +, Greg Cope wrote:
>
> > What about a bed / kip room and of course a play room - and I do not
> > mean some 70's swingers thing - a P2, etc ...
>
> Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is,
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > People (no particular order):
> > >
> > > = Pimp = = Accountant =
> > > = BOFH = = Security
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 09:42:11AM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > yes and no. If you need to do an allnighter and its unavoidable (due to a
> > client suddenly changing ther mind) then theres no problem doing it ..
> > just charge em bigtime!
> nope this is where your pimp/MD should of tied up t
Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> Greg Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> > >
> > > "Paul Makepeace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > >
> > > > The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables,
> > > > vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money g
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> And the UK doesn't have high water tables (in some places and not in others,
> just like anywhere else) or vicious weather (again, in some places not in
> others, just like anywhere else). But it strikes me as being absurd that I
> hear EVERY YEAR of
Greg Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> IMHO developers should be given the environment that is what makes them
> confotable, an IBM research center was on the telly the other day that
> had a big open plan style area, as well as individaul offices, as well
> as Lego. The environment was totally
Greg Cope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> >
> > "Paul Makepeace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables,
> > > vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money goes on hosting in Texas
> > > (San Anton
* Robin Szemeti ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
>
> > Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad
> > idea as it encourages pulling all-nighters. You just don't write good
> > code at 2 in the morning, and end up spending just as much time
* Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> Thats were a few people have gone wrong lately then ;-)
>
yup
--
Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net
* Steve Mynott ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > * Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > >
> > > Also many hackers have more business sense than their MDs - look at
> > > success of projects started by hackers or engineers versus that of those
>
Robin Szemeti wrote:
>
> On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
>
> > Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad
> > idea as it encourages pulling all-nighters. You just don't write good
> > code at 2 in the morning, and end up spending just as much time untangling
> > it
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 12:11:23PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> From: "David Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > Yeah, it's always amazed me just how crap the north American power system
> > seems to be. Even in cities.
>
> This is a different issue, http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/power.cris
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad
> idea as it encourages pulling all-nighters. You just don't write good
> code at 2 in the morning, and end up spending just as much time untangling
> it as you did writing it in the first p
Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> "Paul Makepeace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables,
> > vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money goes on hosting in Texas
> > (San Antonio) not California though -- relatively
> > earthquak
David Cantrell wrote:
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:51:18PM +, Greg Cope wrote:
>
> > What about a bed / kip room and of course a play room - and I do not
> > mean some 70's swingers thing - a P2, etc ...
>
> Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad
> idea as
"Paul Makepeace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The US has much more to worry about than the UK, like high water tables,
> vicious weather and earthquakes. The smart money goes on hosting in Texas
> (San Antonio) not California though -- relatively
> earthquake/tornado/storm/etc-free!
You're talk
From: "David Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Is a million considered a lot in the UK still?
>
> Not by people who can add up.
OK, same here then. Having said that, it's amazing how much people can
stretch a few $currency_unit if they *don't* have investment :-)
> > But then so's a 24hr stretch
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:51:25AM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Is a million considered a lot in the UK still?
Not by people who can add up.
One million will pay for ten average peoples' salaries etc plus overheads -
like an office, stationery, power, heat, comms, computers, insurance - for
O
Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> * Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> >
> > Also many hackers have more business sense than their MDs - look at
> > success of projects started by hackers or engineers versus that of those
> > started by MBAs or middle managers..
> >
>
> busi
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:51:18PM +, Greg Cope wrote:
> What about a bed / kip room and of course a play room - and I do not
> mean some 70's swingers thing - a P2, etc ...
Having something to crash on when pulling an all-nighter is, IMO, a bad
idea as it encourages pulling all-nighters.
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> * Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > People (no particular order):
> >
> > = Pimp = = Accountant =
> > = BOFH = = Security Guru =
> > = Perl Gurus' = = Perl Trainee
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> People (no particular order):
>
> ==
> = Pimp = = Accountant =
> ==
>
> == =
> = BOFH =
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> There's a difference between what the conslutant gets and what the client
> pays!
not here at 'Redpoint Consulting' there isn't :)
--
Robin Szemeti
The box said "requires windows 95 or better"
So I installed Linux!
From: "Leo Lapworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I've got a contact who says he can get hold of a million or
> so VC if this was an actually business plan, but then you
> have to pay them back with interest and stuff.
That's not VC then, that's a "loan". VC is where you heave up a huge chunk of
cash in
In a bad mailbox incident I lost a couple of mails from BOFH inclined
people. Would y'all mail me again please?
Ta,
Dave
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in-chief, The Highway Star http://www.deep-purple.com
Apache, mod_perl, MyS
Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
> * Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > Leo Lapworth wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Location
> > > A big pub in central London.
> > > Top floors: development
> > > Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops
> > > Base
anted was: Re: Red
Hat worm discovered
[snip the first bit... all great]
>
>Location
> A big pub in central London.
> Top floors: development
> Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops
Purleese wireless is the only way to go.
* Greg Cope ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> Leo Lapworth wrote:
> >
> >
> > Location
> > A big pub in central London.
> > Top floors: development
> > Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops
> > Basement: disco / conference room, big flat s
* Tony Bowden ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > > have to pay them back with interest and stuff.
> > equity surely? ;-)
>
> Yes. But if you're successful the "interest" rate is huge ;)
>
> But if you're not, well, they lose the money
Leo Lapworth wrote:
>
>
> Location
> A big pub in central London.
> Top floors: development
> Ground floor Pub: with comedy stand and terminal points for laptops
> Basement: disco / conference room, big flat screens etc..
What about a bed / kip room and of course
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 04:42:55PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > have to pay them back with interest and stuff.
> equity surely? ;-)
Yes. But if you're successful the "interest" rate is huge ;)
But if you're not, well, they lose the money and not you.
FWIW It's much easier to negotiate with
* Leo Lapworth ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> People (no particular order):
>
> ==
> = Pimp = = Accountant =
> ==
>
> == =
> = BOFH =
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:21:45AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > >
> > > > there is a big question
People (no particular order):
==
= Pimp = = Accountant =
==
== =
= BOFH = = Security Guru =
==
dcross - David Cross <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From: Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
>
> > > What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
> > > anyway?
> >
> > Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
>
* Dave Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> > >
> > > > there is a big question here, do people wan
- Original Message -
From: "Michael Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 18 January 2001 14:29
Subject: Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> Sounds a
At Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:16:59 +, Greg McCarroll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> >
> > > there is a big question here, do people want to create a small
> > > business with a few perl
* David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
>
> > there is a big question here, do people want to create a small business
> > with a few perl programmers all on largish salaries or do people want
> > to create a proper consulting b
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:56:43PM +, Greg McCarroll wrote:
> there is a big question here, do people want to create a small business
> with a few perl programmers all on largish salaries or do people want
> to create a proper consulting business aiming to see it grow
Both, of course :-)
--
* Aaron Trevena ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> Also many hackers have more business sense than their MDs - look at
> success of projects started by hackers or engineers versus that of those
> started by MBAs or middle managers..
>
business sense != project sucess
there is a big question here,
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Marcel Grunauer wrote:
>
> Michael Stevens writes:
>
> >When I was working in cardiff the company I was working for would charge
> >clients 500ukp/day for technical development. And this was cardiff.
>
> Ok, but that's for a company, with administrative overhead etc. For a
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 02:29:20PM +, Michael Stevens wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> > Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted as a Perl programmer for less
> > than £50/hr. Normally I'd estimate at about £500/day. I'd have thought that
>
* dcross - David Cross ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> From: Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
>
> > > What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
> > > anyway?
> >
> > Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
>
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 01:55:08PM -, dcross - David Cross wrote:
> Sounds a tad low to me. I've never contracted as a Perl programmer for less
> than £50/hr. Normally I'd estimate at about £500/day. I'd have thought that
> if we were selling ourselves as top-notch Perl consultants (Dave H's
>
From: Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:42
> > What sort of hourly/daily rate does an average PM perl programmer get
> > anyway?
>
> Anything from 30 upwards to the sky depending on the client. And the
> programmer. And the task.
Sounds a tad low to me. I've never co
"Robert Shiels" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> - Original Message -
> From: "David Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: 18 January 2001 11:25
> Subject: Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discover
- Original Message -
From: "David Cantrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 18 January 2001 11:25
Subject: Re: [Job] BOFH wanted was: Re: Red Hat worm discovered
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:31:02AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
>
> >
* John ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
>
> Hmmm, does sound good though.
>
it all depends what you mean, do you mean a proper consultancy or
a bunch of people getting together to share accounting/marketting?
if its a proper consultancy, you'd have to wear suits, be polite
and be in work for 9 in th
David Cantrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> > At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
> > > right now, just bloody band
>Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
>>
>> >RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
>> >systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
>> >doing in the same way t
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Dave Cross wrote:
> At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
> > right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
>
> Sounds good to me. Anyone else up
At 18 Jan 2001 10:31:02 +, Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat]
>
> you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders?
Depending on who we're targetting as clients, image _may_ b
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:31:02AM +, Dave Hodgkinson wrote:
> David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat]
>
> you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders?
Actually I was thinking more along the lines of me being too damned
David Cantrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Yes, but [caveat] [caveat] [caveat]
you're (we're ;-) (almost) all alcoholics with personality disorders?
Why keep giving the money to the pimps^H^H^H^H^H agencies?
--
Dave Hodgkinson, http://www.hodgkinson.org
Editor-in
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 06:09:32AM -0500, Dave Cross wrote:
> At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
> > right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
>
> Sounds good t
At 18 Jan 2001 10:09:04 +, Dave Hodgkinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And on the same lines...what with all these perlmongers on the market
> right now, just bloody band together and start a consultancy.
Sounds good to me. Anyone else up for it?
Dave...
Roger Burton West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
>
> >RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
> >systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
> >doing in the same way that Perl h
On Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 09:56:07AM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> Robin Szemeti wrote:
> > as a matter of interest what is your fave Linux or *nix install then??
> >From what I've been reading on this list, Debian seems to be argued for
> quite a lot, as is FreeBSD (? I think -- one of the BSDs, an
On or about Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 10:37:27AM +, Steve Mynott typed:
>RH/Slackware/Debian/Solaris/FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD are all fine
>systems but they need to be setup by someone who knows what they are
>doing in the same way that Perl has to be written by clueful
>programmers.
And competent
"Paul Makepeace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> From: "Robin Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most
> > widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH
> > (and all of it was also included in other distros).
>
> That's true -
Robin Szemeti wrote:
> as a matter of interest what is your fave Linux or *nix install then??
>From what I've been reading on this list, Debian seems to be argued for
quite a lot, as is FreeBSD (? I think -- one of the BSDs, anyway).
Cheers,
Philip
On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, you wrote:
> From: "Robin Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most
> > widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH
> > (and all of it was also included in other distros).
>
> That's true -- but how easy
From: "Robin Houston" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most
> widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH
> (and all of it was also included in other distros).
That's true -- but how easy is RH to upgrade/patch? And why is RH7 ship
On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 12:59:56PM -0800, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> Just to reinforce the point that this OS is a steaming pile of crap
Aww c'mon! RedHat was obviously targeted because it's the most
widely used! None of the vulnerable software was written by RH
(and all of it was also included in o
Just to reinforce the point that this OS is a steaming pile of crap, and that
if you're in the unfortunate situation of actually running it, watch out
(130,000 nodes scanned in 15mins):
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1003-202-4508359-0.html
Internet worm squirms into Linux servers
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