Dear All,
Are there any Renaissance lute songs, or songs to which lute could be adapted,
that deal with the theme of the myth of Persephone?
Thank you for your time.
Regards,
Craig
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Ron wrote:
Would someone now come up with a nice heraldic design for a cap/lapel-badge
or motif with this motto? We could use it for a club-tie, sweater,
lute-case sticker etc. The Lute Society, LSA etc. may be very interested in
this idea. All thanks to David van Ooijen if you remember.
Oh
Mathias wrote:
Craig Allen [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
We could all be in this together!
Sic semper gloria nervis. (I just know Mathias is going to correct me on
that one).
C'mon, lemme in again, Craig! B)
Oh please. I bow to superior knowledge. I just cobbled that together out of two
Anthony wrote:
They are in the US, but not I think in Europe. or elsewhere.
I saw this on sale with that precise limit:
PRE-BAN ELEPHANT NUT SADDLE BLANKS
Our Pre-Ban Elephant Ivory is well documented Pre-Ban material that
can be sold only to U.S. customers with no exceptions. Pre-Ban
Anthony wrote:
That is why the site I mentioned was selling fossilized walrus ivory.
However, there surely is a limit to the amount of fossilizes ivory
available, mammoth or walrus, and here will be ecological problems
involved in that too, I wouldn't be surprised to find out.
For small
David wrote
:
For me, nullum (in this case nulla) has more the sense of nothing or
none, as in
nullum quod tetigit non ornavit.
OK, I'm no Latin scholar but isn't nulla in some senses used for no, as in
nullatenus, in no wise?
no in this sense seems more like sine than nullum.
As in
Sine sole
Mathias writes linguistically;
Sorry, this has become so off-topic, yet I cannot resist.
Don't apologize. It's a fun diversion to get, *ahem* strung out on.
It seems to me that, vis a vis Latin, the translation is often going to be
approximate rather than literal.
That applies to any
Chris wrote:
Now let's see how many correct or incorrect ways we
can all think up to say Blissfully out of touch with
reality in ancient Greek. I look forward to a
wonderfully fascinating discourse.
Best I can do with an online dictionary and no knowledge of spoken Greek,
ancient or modern.
Mathias wrote:
Ancient: eudaimones tou ergou apechomenoi chairomen
I knew I could count on you. :)
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Craig
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Hopefully, he realizes a standard nylon set will not properly activate such a
heavily
Anthony wrote:
When I saw Jacob Heringman play, I couldn't help seeing him as an an
archer: both lower left arm and lower right arm and the lute parallel
to the ground. His left hand was near the rose, but when he drew it
back towards the bridge, it seemed cranked back progressively by a
Roman wrote:
Possibly. However a sense of humer is not really useful in jurisprudence.
It can be as this judge shows.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NTcyN2UzMDE3NGNhNGFlZjU0YjMzOWE1YzkxMjk0NWE=
Too bad. The arquebus was supremely effective against archers.
RT
Actually not so much.
Guy wrote:
That makes at least two of us, although I confess to only limited experience
with a longbow. At least I don't use those silly contraptions with cables
and pulleys that pass for bows these days...
Make that three. And while I don't shoot a traditional English longbow I do
shoot a
Ron wrote:
I plan to remove a big Bramley apple-tree soon, as I have saplings to set.
Save the apple wood and make some chips. Next time you're grilling a couple of
steaks you can toss some water soaked apple chips on the coals and add a nice
smokey flavour to the meat.
Regards,
Craig
Arthur,
I am writing you via this list because your personal email address has been
spoofed by some site in Amsterdam. I just received a Spanish language spam
showing you as the sender but when I looked at the headers and traced the
originating IP address (194.145.196.18) through the ARIN site
For fans of Science Fiction television there was an episode of Dr. Who shown
here in the States last Friday night that took place in London, 1599. There was
a young man with a lute serenading a lady from beneath her window. Looked like
a Venere style 8 course. Very nice. But I thought for a
Greetings all, especially those in the wild north of Minnesota. An acquaintance
is travelling to Minneapolis and would like to browse the Early Music stores
there. She is in particular need of recorders and recorder music. He locale has
a dearth of any such shops. Thank you in advance.
Greetings all,
Does anyone know if Dowland's Round battle Galliard was written to commemorate
anything in particular, and if so what?
Thank you.
Regards,
Craig
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Narad wrote:
Well I'm now utterly confused with regards to chords on the lute. Can
someone recommend where I can get hold of a definitive book of chord
shapes for 6 course lute or possibly 8 course or a decent link. The
confusion has arisen out of looking at a website that gives full barre
This one's for Arto.
Craig
Breaking News from ABCNEWS.com:
EXCLUSIVE: PRESIDENT BUSH CHOOSES LT. GEN. DOUGLAS LUTE AS NEW 'WAR CZAR' TO
OVERSEE CONFLICTS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN.
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Herbert wrote:
This is not extremely lute-related, but maybe there are enough
people here interested in wood ...
I once saw a photograph of an outdoor yard in NYC where
Steinway had wood aging.
I always thought that exposure to the elements was
for wood a detriment, being, say, one reason why
Guy wrote:
It's also common to put something on the ends of the boards (wax, shellac,
..) to seal the end grain and help keep the end from drying more quickly
than middle. Otherwise, the ends of the board shrink too rapidly, which
tends to cause checks.
Yes indeed. There's also a rule of thumb
Dear Martin,
Typically in the Middle Ages woods were not stained. Extant furniture is dark
because the wood has aged (I have a pair of Glastonbury chairs I built last
year out of poplar and it's darkening nicely after only a year).
That having been said, scribes of the period used ink made
Ed wrote:
On Oct 27, 2006, at 11:44 PM, Rob Dorsey wrote:
I am currently building an 8 course lute for a customer on a Frei
body. I do
not build many renaissance lutes and specialize in baroque
instruments but
took this commission anyway.
He specified the Frei body but also specified
Jim wrote:
You could photocopy the thing
That's brilliant. Facsimiles of Poutlon's greatest works. Quick, call Minkoff.
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Jim wrote:
You could photocopy the thing
That's brilliant. Facsimiles of Poutlon's greatest works. Quick, call Minkoff.
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Jim wrote:
You could photocopy the thing
That's brilliant. Facsimiles of Poutlon's greatest works. Quick, call Minkoff.
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Dear Collective Wisdom,
The subject says it all. Re-entrant tuning is used on the theorbo and if I
recall the gittern. But why? I have not played an instrument tuned this way so
don't have any practical experience with the sound or feel. Why are these (and
presumabley other) instruments tuned
There seems to be a strong division over the reasons why theorbos are tuned
re-entrantly. One side says it has to do with string tension, string length,
and breakage, while the other school maintains it is for purely tonal reasons,
better chording and so forth.
So here's another one for you.
Howard wrote:
The original question was ambiguous.
Yes it was, because I didn't know of any reasons why re-entrant tuning would be
used. I've never played a re-entrantly tunend instrument so don't have the
experience that would have obviated the question.
If the question is why did
someone
David wrote:
Okay, here's what we have so far in a nutshell to account for the
demise of the lute:
The lute died:
[SNIP]
You forgot a main point; That even though Sting tried to make it fashionable
within the popular music culture no one really wanted to play it Jimi Hendrix
style, i.e. to
Bill wrote:
i thought the english expletive bollocks! was
associated with the hindmost part of the human anatomy
and hot air (i.e. you're talking bollocks - speaking
from your rear-end). was the knife normally carried
from behind?
Bill, here is a page from the Mary Rose Trust web site
Howard wrote:
They may seem impractical and silly, but pointed shoes were a mark of
social rank, perhaps because they were so impractical and marked the
wearer as someone who did not work. They were a frequent target of
sumptuary laws, societal dress codes designed to ensure that people
did
Greetings All,
A friend sent me a link to this enggraving by Meckenem the Younger.
http://www.artrenewal.org/asp/database/image.asp?id=24901
Now I have seen this engraving before but she mentioned a lute stand and upon
looking more closely I see she was referring to something that is sticking
Gernot wrote:
Here in Germany, Starkbier was invented by hungry monks as food replacement
during lent, so the song might be acceptable. I do not know Watkin's Ale,
though!
Gernot, try this link for the lyrics and tune for Watkin's Ale.
Herbert Ward wrote:
Ribs are attached to a form to hold them together while
they're getting glued. Right? If so, then it must be
a bit of a trick to inject/insert the glue into the space
between the ribs and the form, since the ribs are supposed
to fit together without gaps. Maybe the form has
From the depths of the Earth to the depths of your soul. I wonder how Weiss
would feel about this. Could be much more than merely Weisses Rauschen.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4777565.stm
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Caroline wrote:
Francesco's birthday is coming up - Aug. 18. What will you be doing?
Playing his music on the lute under the stars in NW Pennsylvania.
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Sean wrote:
Sorry, Donatella, I blame Hollywood. They had a great plan for a TV
show, then they spelled the title wrong and there were no German lute
players. Ever!
And I understand it was to star Arnold Schwarzeneggar as an under cover cop who
would have uttered the forgettable line, I'll be
Rebecca wrote:
I have done some research on the Internet and found AquilaU.S.A. makes
gut and silk strings
Isn't Dan Larson working on silk strings now? His latest addition to the world
of gut strings was his Pistoy which I've heard many good things about.
www.gamutstrings.com
Dear Paul,
I may be out of date then. I thought I remembered hearing something of this at
the recent LSA festival but I may very well have been recalling an earlier
mention. If anyone in the US is making silk strings it would likely be Dan
since he's already in the string business. I've been
bill wrote:
... there were portable, cabinet like organs in spain as well during the
middle ages but i forgot what they were called.
Would it be the portative organ you're thinking of?
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Stewart McCoy wrote:
Nowadays we are expected to play to much larger audiences, and
audibility can be a problem.
I have nothing to say on the subject of the Liuto Forte, however the comment
above of Stewart's raises an interesting side topic, that of historically
informed amplification (for
Caroline wrote:
LGS-Europe wrote:
My mistake, it's the house next door, called Den Vliegenden Hert (The Flying
Deer), after the main stone depicting (you guessed it already) a flying deer
I've never seen one of those before, very curious! I wonder if it could be a
family emblem.
It very
Bruno wrote:
The quotation below is from Pat O'Brian right hand lecture. Could someone
help me to understand what does he mean by the bending of the tip joint? The
movement comes from the knucles and the 1st joint, but the tip will move
passively, otherwise we won't have a big surface area
Daniel wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Then press down until the first joint starts to bend backward. This is what
he's talking about avoiding. You don't want the fingers to bend backwards.
Oddly enough, his own fingers can't do that so he had to find someone who's
fingers would in order
Mathias Rösel wrote:
Taco Walstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
I just came across a new CD containing music by Nicolaes Vallet from his 'Le
secret des muses'. The music is played by Nigel North,
..
Recommended!
Nicolas vallet - le secret des muses ACD2 2333 (ATMA)
what do you think about
Eric Crouch wrote:
I remembered a joke about the customer who asked for the 'Kodaly
Buttocks Pressing Song' from my father years ago, so I googled for
this and found (among others) this site that has several other
examples and classifies the genre as 'Mondegreens' http://
Herbert wrote:
I just read the Wikipedia article on the Alexander Technique.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_technique
Much of it reminded me learning to play music: relaxation,
indirect goals, overcoming bad habits, needing a teacher,
...
I started to look into the Alexander
Katherine Davies wrote:
There are lots of renaissance pictures of people
playing lutes while standing up without any sign of a
strap. Does anyone do this? Any ideas on how - or if -
it could be done?
I'm not having a go at strap-users; I'm just a bit
puzzled - I have enough trouble keeping the
bill wrote:
re: elizabeth - bette davis is queen of them all.
Bette Davis as Elizabeth I, upon hearing a particular dance tune that was later
found in the Fitzwilliam Virginal book was heard to exclaim, What a dumpe.
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Katherine wrote:
On Elizabethan pronunciation:
([ai:] is, more or less, the sound we usually make at
the end of 'July'; [i:] that at the end of 'truly'.)
[SNIP]
Since there no rhyme in question in 'July in her eyes
hath place', it seems perverse to obscure the meaning
by using an unfamiliar
David wrote:
On the contrary. Yes, of course we must have a general understanding of the
poem to be able to play the song, but that is only the beginning. Poetry is
written in very precise language; ideas condensed into a few words and made
to fit into to the constraints of the poetic form.
Herbert wrote:
Typing early music festival into Google gives me the impression
that there are, perhaps, 15-40 of these per year in the US.
Were one financially capable and retired, he could attend these
systematically, amassing a tremendous exposure to Early Music
in the US in a short time.
Dennis wrote:
Is there a modern standard for tablature, which lutenists would expect in
a modern practical edition, or is it preferable to for such an edition to
reproduce the type of notation found in the source? Can one easily get used
to reversing the order of the strings, in particular?
I
David wrote:
I ask myself this one question about the Mozart Effect: why Mozart?
Why not the Bach Effect? or the Brahms Effect? or any of the other
names of composers? The Wagner Effect: now there's a thought... Is
it because these researchers have determined that Mozart is the best
Ed wrote:
Actually a friend of mine's wife was in the hospital and he played
Dowland songs for here everyday.
Um, given how depressing so much of Dowland is (or as Ellen Hargis put it, all
melancholy, all the time), wouldn't that be counterproductive? :)
Happy New Year,
Craig
Rob wrote:
It will have to cope with Dowland songs, Italian monody, trio sonatas,
continuo, Scottish lute music...and much more. Crazy, I know. I can only
afford one instrument. What should it be? An archlute? A 12c lute? A liuto
attiorbato?
Sounds like you've set yourself quite a challenge. At
Good morning All,
It's the day after Thanksgiving, and I hope those of you who celebrate it had a
great day. I'm at work this day after though most of my clients are not and
it's expected to be very quiet. In light of that I've brought my six course to
work and expect to be spending much of my
Hi Mark,
I use nylgut for the top four courses on my renaissance lutes and renaissance
guitars. It is very rare that I have to retune at all during a concert. But
this may also be due to the quality of my Martin Shepherd lutes.
Quality of the instrument could certainly be a factor. But it's
Hi Sean,
I think you mentioned Annapolis...I heard my first lute concert at
Great Hall at St John's --probably the best hall in town.
I'm about 20 miles south near by not quite overlooking the Bay. And I've heard
St. John's is nice but I haven't had the opportunity to attend a concert there.
David wrote:
playing late 16th c. vs. Medieval music) perspective. I'm curious about the
difference in sound quality as well as the historicity of
Since when is nylgut historical?
Sorry if I wasn't clear. I was speaking of the historicity of using non-metal
wound (gimped in period) for the
Dear All,
I have been considering changing out the metal overspun bass octaves on courses
5 and 6 of my six course lute with Nylgut. Currently the rest of the strings
are Nylgut except the chantarelle which is carbon because Nylgut keeps breaking
at that tension.
What is the general advice
Vance wrote:
After rethinking my previous response I should have included that a lot
depends on what comes after and what preceeded it. Your fingering is
correct in most cases that I can imagine.
Vance,
You're quite correct. I will post the full measure the chord is in as well as
the
Has any timeframe been set up yet for the summer lute fest at Case Western this
coming spring? I just need to secure my vacation time from work early.
Regards,
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Humphrey wrote:
I finally found and bought an hans frei, Larry Brown 8 course lute.
Good choice. Larry makes a very nice instrument. I own an 8c. Venere I
commissioned from him and it's got a lovely sound. I'm sure you'll enjoy the
Frei.
But I know nothing of what to do once it gets here.
Lately my right arm has been giving me lots of pain, in particular inside the
elbow. And it's affecting my playing. I sit and pracitice for half an hour and
when I unwind from the instrument I get this pain right inside the elbow. I
suspect the general cause is working on a computer all day and
Ed, please contact me off list. Thank you.
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Taco wrote:
Just a few examples:
Vieux Gautier, dufaut, mouton, gallot CD's by Hopkinson Smith on original
french baroque lute.
When you say original French baroque lute does that mean a real 17th c. lute
and not a modern copy of a museum piece?
Of course all these examples are with
Danyel wrote:
I don't think it's reasonable to buy a lute under 1500$. Nobody can make a
decent lute at that price.
While it may be harder to find a brand new lute for under $1400, it is possible
to find one used for that. I acquired one of Dan Larson's Ricercar student
lutes with Kingham
Herbert wrote:
... carbon steel ... stainless steel ...
Thanks for all the replies about fine wood cutting tools.
However, there's still something I don't understand.
Scalpel blades (that I've seen) appear made from stainless steel.
Why wouldn't a surgeon prefer a sharper blade made from
Of course I meant porous and throw. That's what I get for typing too fast.
Craig
Herbert wrote:
... carbon steel ... stainless steel ...
Thanks for all the replies about fine wood cutting tools.
However, there's still something I don't understand.
Scalpel blades (that I've seen) appear made
Herbert wrote:
Larry Brown (on his website) says that many of his tools are
antique, and superior to their modern counterparts.
The man's woodworking expertise is obvious (and probably
also not obvious).
So I wonder how it is that Craftsman, Black Decker, and Stanley,
with their engineers,
Carl wrote:
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Carl wrote:
I don't know how this came to be an inventory of lutes and cats, but...
we just took in a stray mother with a litter of 6.
That's cats, not lutes. (sigh)
With all those cats you'll certainly
Ken wrote:
I've been asked to accompany a female singer in a performance of Shakespeare
songs that will be interspersed throughout some sort of Shakespeare
presentation. She sent me the music for four songs which are actually
relatively modern arrangements (19th century?) and have piano
Thomas wrote:
The one cat surely as living reserve if a string unexpectedly breaks?
Shhh, don't tell him. He thinks he's a pet. ;)
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Roman,
It is not the added [LUTE] that causes the repeating Re: Re: Fw: Re: RE: AW:
Re: to occur, but badly written email software. I've seen this occur on this
list before the addition of [LUTE] which use I heartily approve. So asking
Wayne to remove [LUTE] will not remove the problem caused
Roman wrote:
The vihuela quartet is forming. does anyone
have a good idea for a
name for a vihuela quartet? Please, do not call it
the vihuela quartet.
FOUR AMIGOS.
Only if Steve Martin, Chevy Chase or Martin Short are going to join the band.
Craig
Ed wrote:
The vihuela quartet is forming. does anyone have a good idea for a
name for a vihuela quartet? Please, do not call it the vihuela quartet.
Well, there's already teh Venere Lute Quartet. How about the Valderrabano
Vihuela Quartet. Yeah I know, too cumbersome.
Buy hey, how
Sal wrote:
How 'bout a Spanish translation of:
We would love to play the lute but the Inquisitors
won't let us quartet.
That's because nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
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Herbert wrote:
Any techniques for the problem
of playing without a warm-up?
Close your eyes and take a slow, deep, cleansing breath. In through the nose,
out through the mouth barely opened.
Regards,
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Howard wrote:
This may be a correct quotation of Haggard (I wouldn't know), but Never try
to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig is so well
known that Never Try to Teach a Pig to Sing is used as the title of a
recent book published by the Wayne State University Press.
John wrote:
Jon,
Don't be confused by Mr. Trovosky's spin on the word transliteration.
Mr. Trovosky said, and I quote
Wrong. transliteration is the rewriting of words into a different
Alphabet, essentially the same as a transcription un quote.
Trovosky, actually confused himself but
I had promised myself not to get involved in this, but, as the English say, in
for a penny, in for a Pound.
Once more employing the dictionary I quote:
tran·scrip·tion (trn-skrpshn)
n.
1. The act or process of transcribing.
2. Something that has been transcribed, especially:
a.
John wrote:
Criag,
I get the defainition of the word translation. Why don't you give us
the definition of transliteration and we then can compare the two
meanings, at this point my head is spinning so fast that I hope I can
still understand English.
Since I've already done that in a
And here I thought you all were talking about Elton John getting into lute
music.
And you can tell everybody
This is Ur song...
Regards,
Craig (this list needs some levity)
Tony wrote:
I think Ed was trying to say that Ur- is a German prefix indicating the
origin of something...
-
Nancy wrote:
Arthur and any others who are tinterested:
Arthur mentions Byrd's lute music below. I always assumed the pieces I
have seen in lute tab were 16th Century intabulations taken from some of
Byrd's other music. Has someone done an article on Byrd's lute music that
I can read? I'd
Al wrote:
I was quite surprised to note that O'Dette was quite emphatically
right-footed, using a very high guitar footstool to raise the right knee
quite high (At least he didn't need to sing in that position!), while Stubbs
used a much lower stool for the left foot. The pattern was
Michael wrote:
Thomas, I usually see your logic, and agree with almost all of your
comments. However to call a system of guitar notation that has been around,
for 200 years, and used by the foremost guitar composers of the past and
present, a relatively modern invention your sense of the
Herbert wrote:
Suppose you put a large thick book on
a music stand, directly in front of the lute.
To what extent would this decrease the perceived
volume for the audience in an auditorium?
I'd have to guess that the answer to that is tied up also in such variables as
the acoustic properties
Daniel wrote:
He sang I've got a dragon in my dungeon. I guess that a 4 course
instrument makes sense when played by people with 3 fingers.
But did he play thumb under or thumb over?
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Roman wrote:
I know what your intent is, but Bob Heinlein is not exactly a model of
intellectual precision, obviously...
Obvious to you maybe. Are the conclusions wrong?
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Arto wrote:
Sorry!
No more politics or/and ethics by me in the List.
Definitely.
I wish I had a nickle for every time you've said that.
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Roman wrote:
You might be helped by the original context, but the way the aphorism was
presented makes is sound like advocacy of a police state.
Actually you may be helped by the original context. I know what it is. For
context read Starship Troopers. Try to pay attention to the messages being
http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/herman200505060807.asp
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Marion wrote:
Freedom is not free and it is also not cheap.
You can have peace and you can have freedom. Just don't count on having them
together. -- Robert A. Heinlein
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Regards,
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This Scott edition has a very faulty score and parts, you must check
everything with the facsimile(Performer's Facsimiles nr. 209) and solve many
puzzles (or better: make your own edition: fun
Herbert wrote:
... Have a not-very-good lute with a cracked pegbox. ...
Could a violin repairer fix a cracked pegbox?
I would guess that the peg box would need to be replaced entirely. Any quality
luthier with lute making experience should be able to do that, but I would
doubt a luthier who
Herbert wrote:
Forgive my naive questions, but what would be wrong with
fixing the cracked pegbox with glue and clamps?
Not naive at all. Of course I have not seen the crack and so don't know how bad
it is, but depending on that it may or may not be possible to simply squeeze in
sufficient
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