Dear All,
I was in the process of selling a number of my books including the score of
the Susato LPM edition and also most of the other dance music prints from LPM.
If anyone is interested send me a mail
All the best
Mark
On Jul 17, 2015, at 2:19 PM, AJN wrote:
Hi Geoff,
The Thomas
Dear Lutenetters,
I am selling my 7 Course Bandora made by Peter Forrester in 2008.
The perfect instrument for Morley Consort Lessons, but also the many solos by
Holborne and other Elizabethan composers. It is in absolute perfect condition
only ever used for recordings. It has a wonderfully
I agree that playing the lute standing up is a real game changer and also that
modern concert conventions are the thing that stop the game being changed
All the best
Mark
On Mar 18, 2014, at 12:27 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote:
Sean,
You're right - lutes were often supported by a
You can find a facsimile of BL. Add. Ms 15117 (amongst others) in
English Song, 1600-1675: Facsimiles of Twenty-six Manuscripts and an Edition of
the Texts, Elise Bickford Jorgens
Band 1 von British Library Manuscripts, British Library
If anybody is interested I have a mint copy that I have
the years
by _not_ using a pan-instrument to approximate the sound and Mark
Wheeler shoots for a similar goal, fingernails (and RT's antipathy)
notwithstanding. Both, to whom I am grateful, btw.
By exploring the niches, we learn incrementally a little more about the
music
It is a Lirone played by Paulina van Laarhoven, doing a couple of concerts in
England with her this weekend funnily enough ;)
All the best
Mark
On Aug 7, 2013, at 3:08 PM, co...@medievalist.org wrote:
I was watching a video on Youtube of Christina Pluhar and l'Arpeggiata in
concert and
I am selling a few Minkoff lute facsimiles from my collection and also a couple
of other books with lute related themes.
http://www.pantagruel.de/forsale
All the best
Mark
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Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:32 PM
Subject: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE]Folk Process was: Saturday quote: Sean
nos for St. P
I think in the case of a lot of folk songs published at this
time they are more
I think in the case of a lot of folk songs published at this time they are
more than often completely new and composed in the style of or often even a
complete invention of a tradition. There are number of recent book that deal
with this inventing of folk traditions, there was a sort of
It was composed by the Irish composer Herbert Hughes (1882-1937).
There is a very interesting 3 part TV documentary called Folk Brittania, that
tells of a very amusing performance of the song by the singer Margaret Barry,
that shocked BBC audiences back in the 60's because she was blind drunk
I actually often get the feeling that the secular elements of renaissance
culture are rather underplayed in EM today. And so to get back to a more
Apollyon muse here is a bit of Holborne and Rabelais's Abbey of Thelema.
http://youtu.be/tteepyzRPrE
All the best
Mark
On Mar 15, 2012, at
I actually feel quite the opposite, that polyphonic religious music is over
emphasized in our view of 16th century music. Whole secular repertoires such as
the Villotta have been ignored and also misrepresented, largely because they do
not fit into the western classical music metanarrative.
in the 21st century culture that it is not really worth bickering about :)
All the best
Mark
On Mar 16, 2012, at 12:43 AM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
I actually feel quite the opposite, that polyphonic religious music is over
emphasized in our view of 16th century music. Whole secular repertoires
(Charlemagne's son). But Gregorian
chant as it evolved during the next two centuries was a synthesis of
Carolingian, ancient Roman and the Gallican plainchant which had prevailed
under the Merovingians.
Monica
- Original Message - From: Mark Wheeler l...@pantagruel.de
Wasn't it terrible when that damn Monteverdi start writing all that modern
stuff, how could he :)
On Mar 14, 2012, at 3:58 PM, Edward Mast wrote:
A very sad state of affairs, Chris. I never understood the church's -
catholic, protestant, or otherwise - desire to revise its music programs to
Actually reminds me of a story I read a couple of days ago...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iraq/9137051/Iraq-religious-militias-target-emo-youths.html
It seems one of the crimes was not only their music taste but also their taste
in stationary, only one answer from the
Ironically fitting for this thread, the domination of Gregorian Chant over
other forms of chant came through the use of extremely draconian methods...
Gregorian chant appeared in a remarkably uniform state across Europe within a
short time. Charlemagne, once elevated to Holy Roman Emperor,
Reading this I can't help but feel that you are pressing for an aesthetic that
is more a reaction to our modern world than one that reflects a possible 16th
century cultural atmosphere
Check out this excellent article by Liz Kenny...
The uses of lute song: texts, contexts and pretexts for
Liz kenny talks about Flow my tears and other Dowland songs that would
certainly fall under the introspective category. I would certainly not describe
the article as ponderous or overtly speculative as it quotes a great deal of
evidence from the period.
I would also recommend an excellent
Dear Ron,
I just found the use of the term gimmicks rather disturbing as it could be
construed to mean performance elements and conventions that we know were
regularly used back then and are not used now, largely because of their
incompatibility with the 21st century classical music mindset.
There are a number of Dowland pieces that survive in cittern versions, here is
one that didn't but fits very well
http://youtu.be/7Be157lJOuk
hope you enjoy it...
All the best
Mark
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Dear lutenetters,
I am selling one of renaissance guitars, for the usual reasons...lack of space
and relative lack of recent use (3 renaissance guitars is at least one too
many!). It is a very loud instrument and that may make it appealing to those of
you out there who need that extra bit of
What you say is very true and it fits in a with a review that our new CD got in
Fono Forum, Germany's flagship classical music magazine, we got top marks but
strangely with the heading Jazz Rock :)
You can read it here...
http://www.pantagruel.de/news.html
For those who want to hear what it
It certainly is a sweet looking lute and it's mine!
It was on the telly a couple of weeks ago...
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=474354099881
All the best
Mark
On Oct 10, 2010, at 4:07 PM, Sean Smith wrote:
That was some nice playing, Martin! Oh, and a sweet looking lute!
I'm
Dear Lutenetters,
if you happen to be in Paris between the 12th and 20th June, then you might
want to check out the 1er Festival de Musique Ancienne du Marais
www.festival-musiqueancienne-marais.com. There is quite a bit of lute related
stuff, including a Vihuela duet concert by Manuel
This is probably one of the most important parts of a HIP approach, finding the
facts about stringing etc is only one part, how to present and even think about
music from a period that had radically different ideas is fascinating and
inspiring. What I am particularly realizing is that the late
Dear Ron,
1) Could you please give an example of a public performance in a concert
situation in the 16th century where a lutenist played a six or seven minute
lute fantasia. By this I do not mean a little get together of friends, but
people who paid to sit and listen without doing anything
Dear David,
That is exactly the point, an early music audience unconsciously expects the
performers to do to everything possible to present the music in an historically
informed or inspired fashion. That is the name of the game, that is label that
we use to sell our wares. I expect if you
In the end HIP or authenticity are just words and as all words have no definite
meaning, they only work if they are understood by the members of the discourse.
One of the words you use Conservatory is in itself in this discussion
interesting, because it's meaning is bound up with the concept
Dear David,
If you are so worried about the feeling of modern(ist) performers then you
must dislike many genre names.
Soul - does that imply all other music is soulless?
Hard rock - anything under that level of rock just softies...?
True metal - all other metal is false metal?
Nu Metal - all
What about doubling up the strings instead, cheaper and more historical :)
On Mar 20, 2010, at 7:05 PM, David Tayler wrote:
If I had the money, I would double down on all my instruments!
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As far as recording rock guitar, simply putting a micro right on the amp is not
the way used by many (perhaps most) rock guitarists in studio, it is usually a
combination of various mikes in different positions, including mikes quite some
way away from the amp. The latest trend (not exactly new
Dear Lutenetters,
I am trying to find on the internet Mudarra's instructions to the pieces
Fantasía que contrahaze la harpa en la manera de Ludovico. wasn't there
something about the piece containing wrong notes but when played fast this
was not recognizable?
Does anybody have the quote near
What exactly do you mean by optimized for
tone and playability?
Mark
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Von: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] Im Auftrag
von David Tayler
Gesendet: Dienstag, 12. Januar 2010 01:20
An: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu
Betreff: [LUTE] Re:
Well if you find playing a guitar in form of a lute saying it is a lute
strange then have a look at this promotion text from the same lutenist..
It is assumed that Bach, just as for the violin and the cello, composed six
solo suites for lute. But only a few of these incredibly difficult lute
I have just checked this thread and can find no prior mention to Tony
Rooley, so could you please ENLIGHTEN us to what he says on ET or MT that
you find unbelievable, or is it a general disbelief in his views that you
are expressing?
Mark
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Von:
Dear Lutenetters,
I have just uploaded 2 videos of lute solos by John Dowland pieces in
Elizabethan arrangements for Cittern and Bandora
[1]http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individualvideoid
=58293677
Dear lutenetters,
Due to the perennial repertoire fluctuations that inflict us lutenists, I am
selling one of my lutes (a 10 course F lute by Martin Shepherd) and also an
entry level 4 course Cittern
More details here
http://www.pantagruel.de/forsale.html
All the best
Mark
To get
Dear Lutenetters,
Here is an event that may be of interest to those living in Germany or
even further away if you happen to be in Germany in May
All the best
Mark
The First Bremen Lute Academy 8.-10. May 2009
Masterclass with Ariel Abramovich, Michael Freimuth, Paul
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Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Februar 2009 22:52
An: Lute Net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Toyota Theorbo for rent, low mileage
On Feb 19, 2009, at 11:05 AM, Stewart McCoy wrote:
Does some historical source say both
Sorry All,
I accidentally hit the send button before I got round to actually writing
anything in the last post...So here is what I wanted to write
As far as cranking the string up, there are historical accounts of this
Robinson says so high as you dare venter for breaking.
As far as
To be fair to Martyn, he is merely using one of the fundamentals of
historical lute stringing, the highest string is tuned to the highest pitch
that is possible with the thinnest useable string.
So if you have one of those small theorboes then tune the highest string
(the 3rd course) to e, the
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Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 22:54
An: lutelist Net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Non-Toy Theorbo for sale
On Feb 17, 2009, at 12:19 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
To be fair to Martyn, he is merely using one
something from Karamazov.
RT
At 04:40 AM 2/2/2009, you wrote:
As you might expect - I advocate the same thing as Haynes, sans
balking. I'd rather deal with the last Tuesday's trills, than
anything by, say, Matteis.
RT
From: David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net
On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Mark
Dear David,
Dear David,
Again, no one has said that the standard of baroque playing has not
improved. The discussion is merely about the influence that a completely new
phenomenon has had on music making in the 20th century, namely recording.
These changes may have been ingrained in classical
From: David Rastall dlu...@verizon.net
On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
You should check out Bruce Haynes book The end of early music
I couldn't agree more. It's a very good read. Although Haynes is a
strong advocate for the writing of new music in the Baroque style,
which makes me
Dear David,
Thanks for highlighting some of the problems involved with classical
recordings...
Here are some quotes from a Jacob Heringman interview (LSA Quartely) about
recording a lute CD...
I would play it safe - I wouldn't take risks musically -just to get it over
with. It felt like being
, Mark Wheeler wrote:
You should check out Bruce Haynes book The end of early music
I couldn't agree more. It's a very good read. Although Haynes is a
strong advocate for the writing of new music in the Baroque style,
which makes me balk a little bit. I'd rather go to original 17th
...@verizon.net
On Feb 1, 2009, at 6:10 PM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
You should check out Bruce Haynes book The end of early music
I couldn't agree more. It's a very good read. Although Haynes is a
strong advocate for the writing of new music in the Baroque style,
which makes me balk a little bit. I'd
or unconciously, including
the music (not only since 1950s or 60s), just reproducing in
different clothes. And in music, as in arts, the dress is the thing.
So I wear my music as I like or am able...
But I know ''the sources'', only my mics are not that good ;-))
J
On 2009-02-02, at 00:10, Mark
You should check out Bruce Haynes book The end of early music, it is a
great antidote to the recent crisis that the HIP movement received from
Taruskin's writings.
You can read a few pages here
http://www.amazon.co.uk/End-Early-Music-Performers-Twenty-first/dp/019518987
Technically that is true, but the main source of noise on recording comes
often from other sources than the equipment.
We had problems with trucks and other farming things as it was harvest time.
So we ended up recording quite late at night for most of the recording.
It was also quite windy and
Dear Lutenetters,
In the last few months there have been a few interesting topics and I
have a couple of things on my Blog that might be of interest.
In regard to the very interesting recording thread, you can find MP3's
and a making of Video from the new Pantagruel CD Laydie
Tonni Iommi from Black Sabbath reason for downtuning was the accident that
damaged his fingers.
From Wikipedia...
Tony Iommi picked up the guitar as a teenager, after being inspired by the
likes of Hank Marvin and The Shadows. He played guitar left-handed. In an
industrial accident at the
Dear Ron,
To play the devil's advocate..
I doubt if music for the average 21st century teenager is any less important
than it was in 15??. I don't think they would see it as merely an extra.
All the best
Mark
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: howard posner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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An: Lute Net
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: gnu piece of the month
On May 1, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Mark Wheeler wrote:
To play the devil's advocate..
I doubt if music for the average 21st century teenager is any less
are many and
constantly expanding
All the best
Mark
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Mark,
--- On Thu, 5/1
Another possibility is to use a ballad tune.
Ross w. Duffin in his excelllant Shakespeare's Somgbook suggested a number
of tunes that would fit the text, including Lusty Gallant and Rogero, both
of which fit very well.
All the best
Mark
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Von: Peter Jones-RR
You have not stated what Firewire interface or mics you are using.
Are they the ones suggested by David Tayler, including the Saffire
Firewire interface.
I have noticed that Firewire is definitely superior for photographic
attachments than the equivalent USB, I imagine the same would be true
We have also recently just brought a couple of omni microphones and a
firewire audio interface.
For a taste of the results so far, here is an excerpt from Can she excuse,
with various combinations of lute, gittern, voice and cittern...
www.pantagruel.de/cansheexcuse.mp3
It was recorded in my
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