[LUTE] Re: Facsimiles

2010-08-11 Thread vance wood
I think trying to make an argument that one form of tab. is better than another is both counter-productive and epistemologically unsound. The fact will in the end remain, that a serious Lute student will have to be at the least familiar with Italian, French and German tab (if not fluent)

[LUTE] Re: HIP, was string tension of all things

2010-03-28 Thread vance wood
Wow! A return to music performance relevance. I thought we were having a discussion on semantics and construction of the English language. - Original Message - From: Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com To: vidan...@sbcglobal.net; lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2010 7:36

[LUTE] Re: HIP, was string tension of all things

2010-03-27 Thread vance wood
I agreeI think. The snare for me is in having to accept the judgment of others that have through research and study come to the same conclusion that I came to without the research and study: We can only guess at how this music was played considering that none of us were around to hear it

[LUTE] Re: Amarilli

2010-03-19 Thread vance wood
This is for dunces like me who have problems thinking about more than one thing at a time. The one thing that makes complex contrapuntal lines easy to manipulate on the Lute is the use of tablature (in my opinion). Now I know there are those out there that can recognize the counterpoint just

[LUTE] Re: should i learn thumb-under technique?

2010-03-18 Thread vance wood
Just my opinion and not based on anything other than experience; those who made the switch in the Sixteenth-Century and beyond were already habituated toward a right hand approach that attacks both strings. This is not the case with a person coming at the Lute from the Guitar. The right hand

[LUTE] Re: should i learn thumb-under technique?

2010-03-18 Thread vance wood
=bXb3zih2umw Looks alot like Post-Segovia guitar technique commonly taught these days. Mark Delpriora -Original Message- From: vance wood [3][16]vancew...@wowway.com To: Lute List [4][17]l...@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thu, Mar 18, 2010 8:49 am

[LUTE] Re: should i learn thumb-under technique?

2010-03-17 Thread vance wood
You could continue using Classical Guitar technique to begin with but you will have to concentrate on collapsing the first joint and striking both strings together. It is easier to do this with the thumb under but not impossible. - Original Message - From: morgan cornwall

[LUTE] Re: Dowland's Lachrimae

2010-02-24 Thread vance wood
Maybe we are seeing here what some of Dowland's contemporary critics meant when they remarked about Dowland's lousy counterpoint. Can it be that we are assuming that Dowland would not write in such a manner, ignoring the fact that indeed he did---on purpose? - Original Message - From:

[LUTE] Re: Viola-Matic

2010-01-21 Thread vance wood
How about home defense? Remember El Kabong, the alter ego of Quick Draw McGraw? - Original Message - From: morgan cornwall mcornw...@ns.sympatico.ca To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; Eugene C. Braig IV brai...@osu.edu Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:07 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Viola-Matic

[LUTE] Re: Thumb rest stroke

2010-01-19 Thread vance wood
Can you define what you mean by sounding neither renaissance or baroque? This seems to me to open up a host of additional questions like how do we know what either actually sounded like? I don't want to seem argumentative in any way but what you are saying here is that there are three sounds

[LUTE] Re: Thumb rest stroke

2010-01-18 Thread vance wood
I speak only from my playing experience and from what I have read here and in a couple of old Lute sources. If the standard method of playing diminutions was to alternate between thumb and index finger (early to mid Sixteenth Century) then it is safe to assume that a thumb rest stroke is not

[LUTE] Re: What makes a lute stay in tune?

2010-01-18 Thread vance wood
Actually;--- from one contemporary source, approximately twenty-years of effort on behalf of the Lute player. - Original Message - From: Benjamin Narvey luthi...@gmail.com To: Ed Durbrow edurb...@sea.plala.or.jp Cc: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:32

[LUTE] Re: Thumb rest stroke

2010-01-18 Thread vance wood
I don't see how that would be possible, there is nothing to rest against except the inside of the hand? - Original Message - From: terli...@aol.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 6:34 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Thumb rest stroke Do any early sources describe

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

2010-01-16 Thread vance wood
I agree and I disagree: I agree that everyone who listens and watches a performance is qualified to make an assessment, but that can only go as far as their observation and appreciation of the music. When someone starts making critical comments about technique then I feel they must be able to

[LUTE] Re: What makes a lute stay in tune?

2010-01-16 Thread vance wood
I would say that would be the job of well made and well set pegs. An argument could be made for the actual strength of the Lute's construction, making the assumption that the entire instrument may shrink or expand with the level of humidity but I find this specious. Is staying in tune the sign

[LUTE] Re: constructive critical commentary

2010-01-11 Thread vance wood
I suppose that if the recording is out there those who view it have a right to critique it. However; I think this should be shaded by whether or not the critic has had the guts to do the same and if they did would they feel the same way. To those of you who do put out performances on YouTube

[LUTE] Re: Unknown piece

2009-12-29 Thread vance wood
If you are talking about DD211, sometimes called the Cambridge Manuscript odds are good it is one of the F.DaMilano Fantasias/Ricercares popular in England. It is most definitely a Fantasy, which in turn could be an intabulation of some chanson. - Original Message - From: Matteo Turri

[LUTE] Re: Unknown piece

2009-12-29 Thread vance wood
I can only offer opinion at this point not as yet having had time to ferret out the piece from the copies of English Manuscripts I have. It is a fact that many of F. DaMilano's compositions found their way into English anthologies such as DD211 and a couple of others. They were of course

[LUTE] Re: Unknown piece

2009-12-29 Thread vance wood
I still hold to my opinion; it is an untitled Fantasia, probably by Milano form the Cambridge Manuscript?. You are correct about the Pavan. This piece does not start out like any Pavan I know of, it starts like a Fantasia, a Milano Fantasia. You might want to write to the artists that put

[LUTE] Re: Unknown piece

2009-12-28 Thread vance wood
It sounds very much like something Milan would have written. I would have liked to have heard the rest of it, the only way to be sure. It was probably written around 1535 or there about. F.DaMilano is also an outside possibility due to the contrapuntal structure but again the sample is too

[LUTE] Re: Physiology of being warmed up.

2009-12-21 Thread vance wood
This discussion is probably more hypothetical than objective, being determined by the individual player more than an over all axiom. I think that the actual effort of warming up the hands plays a dual purpose; that of warming up the focus. As the hands become mobile the mind becomes more

[LUTE] Re: Liuto forte

2009-12-20 Thread vance wood
That's really the only problem with this musical list; snobbery. Not everyone who plays the Lute, or wants to play the Lute is a purist. Some people play just because they enjoy it knowing full well that they will never make a profession of it. This kind of attitude simply turns off those

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE]

2009-12-20 Thread vance wood
That was very nice, beautiful, clean and without pretension. I'm glad you took the time to put this together. - Original Message - From: Ron Andrico praelu...@hotmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 7:11 AM Subject: [LUTE] [LUTE] To All: After

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread vance wood
I was not referring to intentional fraud but if he is using the site to make contacts, contract instruments, and take payment for the same but knows that he is either unable or unwilling to deliver a finished product, then it is fraud none the less. If the contact numbers on his site are

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread vance wood
Howard: I am not ruining his reputation, or any of the people who have purchased instruments from him, He has done it to himself by not communicating and by accepting new business while these more pressing issue are left outstanding. It is at the least unethical, and illegal. You can say it

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-15 Thread vance wood
as a good luthier by speculation and hearsay. - Original Message - From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 12:37 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria On Dec 15, 2009, at 8:52 AM, vance wood wrote: Howard: I think

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria, for thoes of you who doubt

2009-12-15 Thread vance wood
This kind of confirms my cynical position. If you can get in touch with this guy and get a prompt response why can't these other people who have paid good money for a good instrument even get the time of day from him after years of trying? - Original Message - From: Allan Alexander

[LUTE] Re: Luciano Faria

2009-12-14 Thread vance wood
I hate to be the constant cynic but it is an easy thing for someone to be positive, friendly and even accommodating when they have their hand out waiting for the green to flow. However; when this positive, friendly and even accommodating behavior is followed with dodging, equivocating, and a

[LUTE] Re: luciano faria

2009-12-10 Thread vance wood
Not wishing to condemn anyone without knowing all of the circumstances but it seems to me if the man has time and resources in time to put up a new first rate web site advertising instruments for sale, knowing that he may not be able to complete those orders, or ignore some of them, or all of

[LUTE] Re: luciano faria

2009-12-09 Thread vance wood
It seems to me that there has been a good deal about Mr. Faria on this list over the last year or two. Have you talked to him directly? I think (if I am correct) you may get some additional responses. - Original Message - From: THOMAS GEORGI thomasgeo...@rogers.com To:

[LUTE] Re: The End of the Golden Age

2009-10-12 Thread vance wood
To someone who plays the instrument (what ever that instrument might be) things like picks, string tensions and string materials become important and interesting questions. As of this day and age discussion over the quality of reproduction Lutes, the way they are strung (octave or unison) and

[LUTE] Re: Lute Factories

2009-09-30 Thread vance wood
With the exception of those Lutes(?) made in Pakistan I can remember only Lutes being hand made one at a time by custom builders for individual clients. Hopefully I am wrong but I do not think so. - Original Message - From: Mark Probert probe...@gmail.com To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu

[LUTE] Re: : Cost of a lute?

2009-09-30 Thread vance wood
Because a good Lute by a master craftsman is more a work of art than the sum total of a bunch of wooden elements shaped by hand and glued together. Most who play the Lute can tell from the quality of the sound whether the Lute is the work of skill and artistry or the product of some sort of

[LUTE] Re: lute music, ET, etc

2009-09-26 Thread vance wood
I find it, as a side bar, interesting that the one thing we think of as being so perfect and without flaw is mathematics. If mathematics was so flawless why is one of the most basic of concepts, that of pie, in itself an imperfect number having no resolution this side of infinity? So it is no

[LUTE] Re: cat will after kind

2009-08-21 Thread vance wood
We tend to think we have a monopoly on crude, lascivious behavior with our on line porn, lose moral pop songs and television programs. Such is not the case. This is not the first time we have run across female genital references such and My Lady Hunsdon's Puff. There are those who believe

[LUTE] Re: Larry Brown 8c Lute for Sale

2009-08-03 Thread vance wood
I get the dreaded 404 error message on you link. Can you post another? Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: Keith Kilo Watt s...@keithwatt.org To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 11:51 PM Subject: [LUTE] Larry Brown 8c Lute for Sale Hello everyone

[LUTE] Re: more Luciano

2009-08-01 Thread vance wood
I googled the afore mentioned instrument order taker and found that you are not the only one. Check out the Classical Guitar forum, I think you will find the results both disheartening and interesting. I can speak only for myself but it would seem you are out the money so it is time for a bit

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread vance wood
I too have been through this transition; the soft fingers after washing etc. The next thing you have to concentrate on is striking both strings in a course. If you are coming at the Lute by way of the Guitar you will have the tendency to play the strings much the same way you played the

[LUTE] Re: Thumb-under . . always?

2009-07-31 Thread vance wood
I find that it is important to keep the fingers and palm of the right hand parallel to the strings as opposed to the heel of the hand being parallel to the strings. This way the fingers are coming at the strings down and in instead of across and up as in plucking the strings.

[LUTE] Re: Tracetti vs. Pinti?

2009-07-08 Thread vance wood
Sometimes the controversy and the uncertainty make for better reading than the often boring truth. It makes the music more interesting as well; for those looking for clues within styles and motives. - Original Message - From: Thomas Walker, Jr. twlute...@hotmail.com To:

[LUTE] Re: Right hand fingerings in Dowland

2009-07-08 Thread vance wood
I may be looked on as wrong here, but here is something that might help you get things sorted out in your head. Use the thumb and index finger in almost the same way you would use a pick if you were playing a guitar with a plectrum. The strong beat is played with a down stroke on the thumb

[LUTE] Re: Dilettantism

2009-02-06 Thread vance wood
You may specialize and still have an interest in other instruments without betraying your first love. - Original Message - From: Peter Martin peter.l...@gmail.com To: Lute list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:43 AM Subject: [LUTE] Dilettantism I've been

[LUTE] Re: Best material for extending a string.

2008-12-07 Thread vance wood
A piece of an old string (the reason you save your old strings) or a piece of spare fret gut, or a piece of monofilament fishing line of appropriate dimension. Tie end to end with a barrel knot, used in fishing. I suppose there may be better methods but any port in a storm. - Original

[LUTE] Re: Fret replacement

2008-12-06 Thread vance wood
Hi Omer: In a pinch you can substitute monofilament fishing line of appropriate gauge, 30 lbs test or better. - Original Message - From: Omer katzir [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute-cs. dartmouth. edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2008 3:38 AM Subject: [LUTE] Fret

[LUTE] Re: John Dowland

2008-11-29 Thread vance wood
I agree with the source filing. In order to make this meaningful however, I think it will be necessary, and educational, to list the sources chronologically. The oldest known sources listed first. This also begs the question; is the earliest source the closest to the composers original

[LUTE] Re: Molinaro, Galilei

2008-11-14 Thread vance wood
I cannot tell you how many books but if you are interested in obtaining some of the music you might want to visit here. http://www.lute.ru/mirrors/gerbode/ft2/composers/index.php?path=Galilei/ - Original Message - From: andrei and [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent:

[LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute

2008-11-09 Thread vance wood
. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: Rob MacKillop [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lute-cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2008 9:41 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Bach on the baroque lute Igor is a moron. There are moments when

[LUTE] Re: Peace

2008-10-29 Thread vance wood
I am sure you mean well but what does this have to do with the Lute and its music? - Original Message - From: Rebecca Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 2:41 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Peace October 29th, 2008 Dear Lutenists:

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound

2008-09-28 Thread vance wood
I suspect a couple of things on this issue that go toward the nature of strings as it relates to sound and playing position. The concept, nature and tension of strings from an historical view point has been discussed here many times and at length. The only absolute that we can derive from

[LUTE] Re: Lute sound, esoteric or worldly?

2008-09-21 Thread vance wood
- Original Message - From: vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Tayler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2008 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Lute sound, esoteric or worldly? That is I believe the key. It is the old emigration from the Guitar and its single string

[LUTE] Re: pre-newbie question

2008-09-18 Thread vance wood
- Original Message - From: vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mike Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:00 AM Subject: Re: [LUTE] pre-newbie question A capo will put you in the correct pitch but do little in giving you a feel for the Lute. The Lute is double

[LUTE] Re: Snakewood

2008-08-12 Thread vance wood
I know that some think this not a good idea for Lute backs/bowls, deferring instead to Yew. However history has shown that a variety of hard woods have in the past been used for the bowl, understanding that the sound board is the most critical portion of the Lute where type and quality of wood

[LUTE] Re: Take II: last joints that bend backwards.

2008-07-18 Thread vance wood
Actually nothing until you realize that you are not sticking both strings in the course. This is particularly apparent with a doubled first course when you actually do manage to strike both strings, at least on my Lute, the sound is significantly different. It is not so much bending backwards

[LUTE] Re: Take II: last joints that bend backwards.

2008-07-17 Thread vance wood
I will offer my opinion on the right hand. I play a Lute with a doubled first course. Having the ability to collapse the first joint of the digits on the right hand is crucial in getting a proper sound out of the instrument strung in this manner. VW - Original Message - From: David

[LUTE] Re: Last joints that bend backwards.

2008-07-12 Thread vance wood
I find the technique invaluable in playing much of Milano's work. - Original Message - From: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Herbert Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED]; LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2008 8:16 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Last joints that bend backwards.

[LUTE] Re: almost lute

2008-06-13 Thread vance wood
From the configuration of the neck I would conclude that this might be an Oud not a Lute. - Original Message - From: Robert Clair [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 3:39 PM Subject: [LUTE] almost lute Check out the cover of this week's

[LUTE] Re: Left hand positioning

2008-05-08 Thread vance wood
If I read you correctly you should be using a bar with the index finger when the stops are on the same fret. You might want to pick up a copy of Variety of Lute Lessons, a facsimile edition of a Lute primer from the sixteenth Century, there is some information on both hands. - Original

[LUTE] Re: Kind of explanatiom?

2008-05-02 Thread vance wood
) uncomfortable. Gary - Original Message - From: vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 3:54 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Kind of explanatiom? In other words; I'm sorry I mentioned it but as long as I did let me add a few more faggots

[LUTE] Re: Kind of explanatiom?

2008-05-01 Thread vance wood
In other words; I'm sorry I mentioned it but as long as I did let me add a few more faggots to the fire. Why don't you just stop? You have no idea how many people you offend Arto. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008

[LUTE] Re: OT: Torture and c-camps

2008-04-30 Thread vance wood
Must have fallen off the wagon once more. - Original Message - From: Gernot Hilger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:03 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: OT: Torture and c-camps Arto, that was remarkably long since you posted something which is again

[LUTE] Re: Extravaganza (OT)

2008-04-18 Thread vance wood
Interesting, encouraging, and better than a food fight but no Lutes? - Original Message - From: Daniel F Heiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 2:10 AM Subject: [LUTE] Extravaganza (OT) The center part of the US tends to be an early music

[LUTE] Re: Pavana

2008-04-13 Thread vance wood
I have a facsimile of the Pisador book around somewhere, I'll check the notation. The problem may lay with schott and some guitarists that found it was more musical/fun to play in triple time than duple. Your problem is in assigning credibility to a second generation

[LUTE] Re: Fingering question

2008-03-29 Thread vance wood
Igor I really find it difficult to understand why someone would make a big deal out of this conversation, it's not like you don't know what the message is about in your email in-box. The simple thing;--- use the delete button. If you don't like the food don't order it from the menu--simple.

[LUTE] Re: I can remain silent any longer....!!.....

2008-03-25 Thread vance wood
Dear Dr. Zakin: You refer to Julian Bream as being The late Julian Bream. Could you clarify this statement, has Julian Bream indeed died? I have heard nothing on this issue neither can I find reference to his death on the Internet. Thank you for your response. Vance Wood - Original

[LUTE] Re: Forqueray

2008-03-16 Thread vance wood
On the base of it I would agree, but I find the delete button works as well when a posting subject starts, then deteriorates to the point that I have no interest in it. Occasionally I will look in, as I did here, and thus my comment. Flame wars do nothing to advance our understanding of a

[LUTE] Re: Etymology

2008-03-04 Thread vance wood
Humm?? Would that make a trombone player a tromboner? A piccolo player a piccoloist or maybe a picolist might be better. - Original Message - From: Steve Bryson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute list Lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Cc: Steve Bryson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 1:03

[LUTE] Re: Lute Bream Rubio?

2008-03-03 Thread vance wood
No one has mentioned, though I suppose some have noticed, it has metal frets. Typical of Lutes before the advent of traditional historically accurate instruments. When I went to Oakland University the school owned a Rubio and it was a dog musically. This was in the mid 70's and apparently

[LUTE] Re: Lute Bream Rubio?

2008-03-03 Thread vance wood
No one can argue that this is not a beautiful instrument, and if Bream owned it I am sure it has a wonderful sound, if not a bit Guitar like. - Original Message - From: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Monday

[LUTE] Re: Source Wars

2008-02-03 Thread vance wood
Ahhha, David: You forget egos and music. You cannot separate the two and sometimes egos show themselves in rude responses and --- no responses: I get that all the time. Vw - Original Message - From: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday,

[LUTE] Re: bach and karamazov

2008-01-30 Thread vance wood
I agree, this is well done and pleasing to listen to. Thanks for posting it. VW - Original Message - From: Gernot Hilger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lutelist lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 6:09 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: bach and

[LUTE] Re: arm pain

2008-01-27 Thread vance wood
Rob: I have had carpal tunnel surgery and shoulder surgery. But before you do anything do yourself and all of us a favor. Go to a doctor and have an emg done as well as an ekg. Left arm problems often are indicative of heart issues that can render the other problems moot. It's better to

[LUTE] Re: enough

2008-01-24 Thread vance wood
. As for me, I am a bit of a purist. As to this performance; I seem to be able to download only the first 23 seconds of it so I cannot form too much of a critique. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lex Eisenhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: lute

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread vance wood
From what I understand Dowland from early in hi career was criticized for his poor counterpoint, his use of old style composition and old way of playing. He spent his entire adult life trying to get employment in Elizabeth I's court and so on. If he did indeed change he probably did so

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread vance wood
Here is another thought: Maybe Dowland created the change in technique? If not him who and from where? Do we know the answer to that question? - Original Message - From: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LuteNet list lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 9:52 AM

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread vance wood
I know that this must be a bit off topic but beside the issue of accessing the additional bases as a criteria for thumb out one has to ask why was thumb in used in the first place, especially when you consider how the thumb and second finger sometimes interfere with each other? I will answer

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2008-01-05 Thread vance wood
, 2008, vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I know that this must be a bit off topic but beside the issue of accessing the additional bases as a criteria for thumb out one has to ask why was thumb in used in the first place, especially when you consider how the thumb and second finger sometimes

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2007-12-16 Thread vance wood
Dowland suggests playing sweetly in Varietie. I think the sound must be clean with no buzzing or rattling and even, between base and treble. If you get that it does not matter how you got there. Regardless of what Guru you invest your technique with, playing the Lute is still about the

[LUTE] Re: RH on the bridge?

2007-12-16 Thread vance wood
If you read Dowland's comments on the subject, or maybe it was Besard, I do not now remember exactly, the debate/transition was going on at the time and the remark was made that the Thumb Under was not as elegant but acceptable. It is not clear here if the elegant tag was because of sound or

[LUTE] Re: Specialization (was: 8-course?)

2007-11-30 Thread vance wood
Not meaning to be rude, mean, or out of touch, but it seems to me the key is to play really well and choose the material that will interest those who came to listen. Maybe people leave after intermission because the playing is too tedious. - Original Message - From: howard posner

[LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard?

2007-11-29 Thread vance wood
So really it is more a head issue than a tactile one? Interesting but understandable. I have always had problems playing something on someone else's instruments right out of the gate. One has to get acquainted with the Lute to play it, it seems to me. vw - Original Message - From:

[LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard?

2007-11-29 Thread vance wood
Sean: I understand, a six course instrument is the appropriate instrument for the music you choose to play. But let us assume you also wished to play Molinaro---not good fair for the six course instrument. I know one size fits all is an awful choice given all of the subtleties of period

[LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard? (fwd)

2007-11-29 Thread vance wood
The Cambridge Manuscript seems to indicate that the latest Dowland of the time was grouped together with F. DaMilano in the same book. VW - Original Message - From: Wayne Cripps [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re:

[LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard?

2007-11-28 Thread vance wood
I don't think you can make that argument even though we do it. The We we are discussing happen to be a group of Historically Correct Mavens that look at the issues of historical correctness more closely than we look at the practicality of the things at hand; like the number of strings on our

[LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard?

2007-11-28 Thread vance wood
wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:46 PM Subject: [LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard? On Nov 28, 2007, at 3:37 PM, vance wood wrote: The We we are discussing happen to be a group of Historically Correct Mavens that look at the issues

[LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard?

2007-11-28 Thread vance wood
---but not everyone can do that either. By the way I did not say they were any good they simply suit my needs for now. VW - Original Message - From: David Rastall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 4:46 PM Subject

[LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard?

2007-11-27 Thread vance wood
I know there is a lot of controversy surrounding the eight course Lute et al, but from a modern stand-point, and a musician's probable limited income, it is still the best choice for the student, and armature player, who wants one instrument capable of playing a wide range of music with a

[LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard?

2007-11-26 Thread vance wood
- Original Message - From: vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed Durbrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Is 8c really the standard? The only down side to that point of view is that occasionally you have to re-tune the seventh course

[LUTE] Re: Dowland

2007-11-24 Thread vance wood
Actually I would rather listen to the music. It seems the musician is rather good and I would have liked to have heard him without the lecture which I could not understand. - Original Message - From: Stewart McCoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Saturday,

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2007-11-13 Thread vance wood
Not meaning to be confrontational, but does anyone know of an historical example of a single strung Archlute? My impression is that this is nothing more than a Guitar like instrument with a lot of extra base strings shaped like a Lute. - Original Message - From: Mathias Rösel [EMAIL

[LUTE] Re: Vivaldi

2007-11-13 Thread vance wood
Thanks for sharing that link Roman, it's nice to be informed about something I did not know existed. - Original Message - From: Roman Turovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Lute List lute@cs.dartmouth.edu; vance wood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 9:47 AM Subject: [LUTE] Re

[LUTE] Re: Neck section thumb over

2007-11-07 Thread vance wood
Excellent summary Anthony. The iconography does in fact portray the thumb over on an abundance of Lutes of six courses or less. The fact that Variety of Lute Lessons does not mention it, that I recall, only shows that the added number of strings dictated a change in technique. Unless you

[LUTE] Re: Hopkinson Smith on silence and lute playing

2007-11-06 Thread vance wood
How about a link? - Original Message - From: Tobias Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 4:12 AM Subject: [LUTE] Hopkinson Smith on silence and lute playing Dear Sirs, I got a newsletter (#3) from the homepage of Hopkinson Smith the

[LUTE] Re: historical lute stringings

2007-11-04 Thread vance wood
You cannot argue with a Guitar player about fixed metal frets, especially if their only exposure to the Lute is at a distance. They have to have first hand experience with gut frets and the fineness of the sound before they start to grasp the significance of them. Don't even try discussing

[LUTE] Re: Good morning everyone! - New person

2007-10-28 Thread vance wood
are hooked. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: Joshua E. Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 6:46 AM Subject: [LUTE] Good morning everyone! - New person Hi everyone! -- I am new to the Lute Society of America general mailing list. My name

[LUTE] Re: Good morning everyone! - New person

2007-10-28 Thread vance wood
I assume you are using tablature? You must learn to play tablature or you are cutting yourself off from 90% of the material available for the Lute, most of which has never been transposed into staff notation. Vance Wood. - Original Message - From: Joshua E. Horn [EMAIL PROTECTED

[LUTE] Re: Inlay in neck.

2007-10-16 Thread vance wood
No, most necks are veneered to begin with, they are not made entirely of solid hard wood as you might see on the surface. I am sure there are exceptions to this but for the most part a solid hard wood neck would prove to be too heavy in relation to the rest of the instrument. Most necks have

[LUTE] Re: longbows lutes

2007-10-13 Thread vance wood
Roman; you are correct but there is one caveat, it takes a lifetime of practice and training to become a competent archer and a couple of weeks to learn to shoot an harquebus, if you don't blow your own head off first. That one fact caused the doom of the military archer. You could line up

[LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Re: [LUTE] Rép : [LUTE] Re: G ut strings - Tennis-Lute loveALL

2007-08-26 Thread vance wood
I can only give you an opinion understanding that I am not a Tennis player. You are to a certain extent comparing apples and oranges. Gut for musical instrument strings imparts a better tamber to the sound of the Lute, giving it warm over-tones that nylon can not. However; nylon strings are

[LUTE] Re: Octave anomaly

2007-08-17 Thread vance wood
If the strings have been on the instrument for a while one or the other of the two strings may have become false because the pressure on the fret has taken it out of round in that location. I would determine which of the two is truly false then unhitch the string, turn it around and re-install

[LUTE] Re: Ave Maria by Tromboncino

2007-07-22 Thread vance wood
I could be really wrong, but not so far as to not be plausible; the Lute player my have put together his/her own part. Not only is this possible it is historical. Vance Wood - Original Message - From: Alfonso Marin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: lutelist Net lute@cs.dartmouth.edu Sent: Sunday

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