This time a reply after watching the video (test question: What's the
colour of Steve's cat?).
What I saw was Steve playing written-out formulae in a baroque style,
cycling through many keys. What Chris referred to as 'don't be afraid
to copy' and 'learning many licks', or similar
Hi All,
Yes I agree improvisation is something to be introduced early on, not
just as an advanced topic. To do it properly one really needs some
knowledge of composition, which unfortunately many amateur lute players
lack. I'm not thinking of anything very advanced here, just a very
basic
Thanks for the comments. Yes, Steve Herberman is dealing mainly with
contrapuntal devices. How well they they would transfer to Dm tuning
remains to be discovered. I have seen many harpsichord players rip
through similar devices many times, and have been duly impressed. I
once joked
Improvisation teaches many things besides improvisation: compositional
awareness, arranging and adapting skills, freedom on the instrument,
confidence, musical expression (hopefully), a better involvement in
what you're playing and in a roundabout way you'll become a better
sight
True.
As an improviser, even an accomplished one, to compare ones own improvisations
against properly composed music is demotivating to say the least.
Improvisation is more about the joy of playing than about good music and
should be qualified accordingly.
Interesting subject though.
Lex
Op 2
Hi Martin,
I agree that improvisation should be introduced early on. However, I
disagree that it need be so formally codified with proper theory and
counterpoint at the early stages. Students are often initially hesitant
to improvise for fear of making mistakes and looking foolish.
Garrison Keillor came through town recently with A Prairie Home
Companion. (Keillor just named virtuoso mandolinist Chris Thile as his
replacement, who is quite the improviser himself, that's another
topic.) I'm not actually a huge fan of his style, but I found this
interesting.
Not to forget the great Ted Greene: [1]http://youtu.be/Zkuo2384ZN4
Rob
[2]www.robmackillop.net
On 1 Jul 2015, at 13:49, Rob MacKillop [3]robmackil...@gmail.com
wrote:
I've long thought that there was something missing from the way most
of
us learn to play baroque
I’m not sure of the value, but I do know that Pat O’B would have some comments
on his left hand technique. “Pronate more” and “your 4th finger is stuck in the
land where notes don’t live”!!
On Jul 1, 2015, at 8:49 AM, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:
I've long thought that
Rob,
Thanks for being this up. I did my minor at Eastman in jazz guitar,
thinking it might also help me with improvising early music. The
results have been mixed.
I included some improvised sections on my latest baroque lute album.
The most extended stretches are in the varied
Danny, that's just dumb.
Rob
On 1 July 2015 at 15:25, Daniel Shoskes [1]kidneykut...@gmail.com
wrote:
I'm not sure of the value, but I do know that Pat O'B would have some
comments on his left hand technique. Pronate more and your 4th
finger is stuck in the land where notes
I enjoy improvising continuo and I enjoy improvising jazz. But I find
when I mix these I tend to bring in style elements from one to the
other. That's not always appreciated. In Renaissance music I enjoy
improvising short solo pieces, nothing big, nothing serious but
something
Again, David, it's not about doing jazz or being influenced by mass.
Steve just happens to be a jazz player. But he is on our territory,
and getting amazing results by applying a few concepts and principles.
Forget jazz - this topic has nothing to do with it.
Rob
On 1 July 2015
Thanks for this, Rob. From my perspective gained through reading the
sources (including Quantz, Rameau, CPE Bach), improvisation is not an
extra - it's required. This has everything to do with the difference
between the playing of a musician and the rote regurgitation of
influenced by mass - I meant jazz!
On 1 July 2015 at 15:51, Rob MacKillop [1]robmackil...@gmail.com
wrote:
Again, David, it's not about doing jazz or being influenced by mass.
Steve just happens to be a jazz player. But he is on our territory,
and getting amazing results by
I thought perhaps you were finally coming around in your views on
religion. Spreudian flip?
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 15:52:58 +0100
To: davidvanooi...@gmail.com
CC: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: robmackil...@gmail.com
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music
/15, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music
To: Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 10:49 AM
Chris,
I'm very happy to provide you the
opportunity
Chris,
I'm very happy to provide you the opportunity to promote your latest
disc, which is wonderful. More power to you.
However, my discussion is more about the concepts Steve uses, which are
not jazz, and how we should be studying them on a baroque lute. I'm not
sure from what
Good topic!
It would be great to have a method for aspiring improvisers on baroque
music (any instrument, lute, guitar, theorbo...). I do have a method by
Pascale Boquet and Gerard Rebours (Fuzeau edition), however it seems
more of a collection of grounds and a few advices than a
, July 1, 2015 7:52 AM
To: David van Ooijen
Cc: LuteNet list
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music
Again, David, it's not about doing jazz or being influenced by mass.
Steve just happens to be a jazz player. But he is on our territory,
and getting amazing results by applying a few
David
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Subject: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music
Not to forget the great Ted Greene: [1]http://youtu.be/Zkuo2384ZN4
, 7/1/15, Rob MacKillop robmackil...@gmail.com wrote:
Subject: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music
To: Christopher Wilke chriswi...@yahoo.com
Cc: lute@cs.dartmouth.edu lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015, 10:49 AM
Chris,
I'm very happy to provide you the
opportunity
Lots of interesting comments from a few contributors. There seem to be a number
of issues.
1. Original source material, for lute, baroque guitar, certainly, but other
instruments too. All that must be looked at and absorbed as best as possible.
2. Stylistic details - what we do for Weiss we
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From: robmackil...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 21:43:03 +0100
To: praelu...@hotmail.com
Lots of interesting comments from a few contributors. There seem to
be a number of issues.
1. Original
There are some method books, just not for the lute. By far the most
relevant to your post would be The Division-Viol, The Art of Playing Ex
tempore upon a Ground... (CHELYS Minuritum Artificio Exornata, etc.) by
Christopher Simpson. Two edtions, 1659 1667. Chris gives you the
works, from soup
of historical lute music to
the point where they might compose extempore. Excepting you and
McFarlane.
RA
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Subject: Re: [LUTE] Re: Improvising Baroque Music
Date: Wed, 1 Jul 2015 21:43:03 +0100
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