Re: Phantom spaces
On Nov 11, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Steve Litt wrote: What are some of the situations in which you might want to use phantoms. The whole concept sounds so Geeky I want to use them, but can't figure out a situation that calls for them. If memory serves, Peter Wilson's memoir manual has an example of using hphantom in a verse environment. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: Phantom spaces
On Nov 11, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Steve Litt wrote: What are some of the situations in which you might want to use phantoms. The whole concept sounds so Geeky I want to use them, but can't figure out a situation that calls for them. If memory serves, Peter Wilson's memoir manual has an example of using hphantom in a verse environment. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: Phantom spaces
On Nov 11, 2009, at 10:40 AM, Steve Litt wrote: What are some of the situations in which you might want to use phantoms. The whole concept sounds so Geeky I want to use them, but can't figure out a situation that calls for them. If memory serves, Peter Wilson's memoir manual has an example of using hphantom in a verse environment. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: Tip: How to type degree symbol in Windows using the numeric key pad
On Jul 30, 2009, at 4:22 AM, Christian Ridderström wrote: Caveat: There might be drawbacks with this method that I haven't tested, and it would be much nicer if I had the equivalent of a Compose-key in Windows. Interestingly, one of the earliest utilities for Windows was DEC's COMPOSE.EXE which emulated the Compose key on their dedicated word processing equipment. Unfortunately, Microsoft broke it sometime during the Windows 95 beta. There is a free successor, ``AllChars'', now available at: http://allchars.zwolnet.com/ William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: Tip: How to type degree symbol in Windows using the numeric key pad
On Jul 30, 2009, at 4:22 AM, Christian Ridderström wrote: Caveat: There might be drawbacks with this method that I haven't tested, and it would be much nicer if I had the equivalent of a Compose-key in Windows. Interestingly, one of the earliest utilities for Windows was DEC's COMPOSE.EXE which emulated the Compose key on their dedicated word processing equipment. Unfortunately, Microsoft broke it sometime during the Windows 95 beta. There is a free successor, ``AllChars'', now available at: http://allchars.zwolnet.com/ William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: Tip: How to type degree symbol in Windows using the numeric key pad
On Jul 30, 2009, at 4:22 AM, Christian Ridderström wrote: Caveat: There might be drawbacks with this method that I haven't tested, and it would be much nicer if I had the equivalent of a Compose-key in Windows. Interestingly, one of the earliest utilities for Windows was DEC's COMPOSE.EXE which emulated the Compose key on their dedicated word processing equipment. Unfortunately, Microsoft broke it sometime during the Windows 95 beta. There is a free successor, ``AllChars'', now available at: http://allchars.zwolnet.com/ William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: RPG Manual with Lyx?
Luca De Marini wrote: An RPG manual is something way more elaborated. Well, that depends on the manual. FWIW, Columbia Games used to produce all of their books using TeX --- they had very high production values even using lovely textured stock and sepia coloured ink (until someone whined and they quit doing so). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: RPG Manual with Lyx?
Luca De Marini wrote: An RPG manual is something way more elaborated. Well, that depends on the manual. FWIW, Columbia Games used to produce all of their books using TeX --- they had very high production values even using lovely textured stock and sepia coloured ink (until someone whined and they quit doing so). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: RPG Manual with Lyx?
Luca De Marini wrote: An RPG manual is something way more elaborated. Well, that depends on the manual. FWIW, Columbia Games used to produce all of their books using TeX --- they had very high production values even using lovely textured stock and sepia coloured ink (until someone whined and they quit doing so). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow.
Re: Experience using XeTeX with XeTeX?
On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Charles de Miramon wrote: I would rather have one stable and solid LyX Way (unicode + xetex (and in the future luatex) + opentype) and a possibility to export pdflatex code for special reasons (like microtypography). Well, in the meanwhile one could use the hanging package to get hanging punctuation --- not quite as configurable as microtype, but it could be pretty easily built into LyX I'd think --- just enable a way to define styles to also be hanging environments. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Experience using XeTeX with XeTeX?
On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Charles de Miramon wrote: I would rather have one stable and solid LyX Way (unicode + xetex (and in the future luatex) + opentype) and a possibility to export pdflatex code for special reasons (like microtypography). Well, in the meanwhile one could use the hanging package to get hanging punctuation --- not quite as configurable as microtype, but it could be pretty easily built into LyX I'd think --- just enable a way to define styles to also be hanging environments. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Experience using XeTeX with XeTeX?
On Oct 9, 2008, at 5:37 AM, Charles de Miramon wrote: I would rather have one stable and solid LyX Way (unicode + xetex (and in the future luatex) + opentype) and a possibility to export pdflatex code for special reasons (like microtypography). Well, in the meanwhile one could use the hanging package to get hanging punctuation --- not quite as configurable as microtype, but it could be pretty easily built into LyX I'd think --- just enable a way to define styles to also be hanging environments. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: No, it still doesn't work (either through pdflatex or dvips + ps2pdf or dvips + distiller). Did you use the PDF/A-1b:2005 (CMYK) setting in Acrobat Distiller? I tried this w/ a .ps from dvips and it opened in PDF/A mode. If I follow your instructions literally, using pdflatex, opening in Acrobat and saving as PDF/A, Acrobat complains and tells me to use preflight first. It shouldn't. You should save as PDF/A-1b, quit, then re-open the document. This should open it in PDF/A mode. I do so, but this time (from the pdflatex generated file) I get a different error: XMP property neither predefine nor defined in extension schema. Strange. Can't find that error anywhere (even after adding the ``d'' after predefine). Could it be a problem with this version of Acrobat, maybe? (I'm using Acrobat 9 Pro on Vista + MiKTeK 2.6) Well, your minimal example works w/ Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional on Mac OS X Leopard using MacTeX. I seem to recall your having mentioned files created by Adobe Acrobat not working either --- perhaps the problem is in your Acrobat installation? Have you tried d/l'ing a PDF/A document from somewhere and testing it? I directly sent you files which I made w/ dvips/Acrobat and pdflatex --- if they don't read as PDF/A on your Acrobat, it's broken. PS: I'm not sure how the hyperref package could help, as the document doesn't have any hyperrefs; even the minimal file I posted earlier fails... The hyperref package now has an option which will tag text so that one could use a PDF/A standard other than PDF/A-1b (which is for untagged text). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Full colour book
On Sep 12, 2008, at 7:23 AM, christiaan pauw wrote: I have written a large technical report with LyX and now the project sponsor wants to publish it as a book. The format they are thinking about should be very visual with a lot of photos as backdrop to the pages and things like that. Tough to do in LaTeX, but doable. I have approached a publisher that wants to do it in some DTP program. They see all my beautiful LateX as an obstacle. Well, you could just provided them w/ a tagged text dump --- pretty straightforward search-replace between the two. Ask them for a compleat example markup using Quark XPress Tags or Adobe Tagged Text and match that if you want to go that route. They are going to be very expensive (for example $3000 for indexing). Not a bad price for an index, and well-worth it for a professionally done index. See if you can find an indexer willing to do an embedded index in your LaTeX files though if you go that route. Does anyone have experience or examples of an more popular eye candy approach to publishing with LyX/LaTeX. Some examples of this sort of thing in the TeX Showcase. The big thing is that the image files have to be properly processed in advance, then make the pdf files w/ appropriate pre-press settings (embed all fonts). The difficult thing is getting a nice design done --- w/ a good book design it's just an implementation detail doing the paging in Quark, InDesign or LaTeX. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 12, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: The files do open in PDF/A mode, but when I run preflight on them I get this: Preflight errors from Untitled-ps.pdf Syntax problem: Stream dictionary improperly formatted Width information for glyphs is inconsistent (1 match on 1 page) Untitled-pdflatex.pdf Device process color used but no PDF/A OutputIntent (1 match on 1 page) XMP property not predefined and no extension schema present When I preflight the two documents using: Advanced | Preflight | PDF/A compliance | Verify compliance with PDF/ A-1b | Execute I get ``No problems found'' when using Adobe Acrobat Professional 8 --- I'm going to d/l the demo for v9, but I really think either Acrobat on your machine or Acrobat on Windows is broken. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: No, it still doesn't work (either through pdflatex or dvips + ps2pdf or dvips + distiller). Did you use the PDF/A-1b:2005 (CMYK) setting in Acrobat Distiller? I tried this w/ a .ps from dvips and it opened in PDF/A mode. If I follow your instructions literally, using pdflatex, opening in Acrobat and saving as PDF/A, Acrobat complains and tells me to use preflight first. It shouldn't. You should save as PDF/A-1b, quit, then re-open the document. This should open it in PDF/A mode. I do so, but this time (from the pdflatex generated file) I get a different error: XMP property neither predefine nor defined in extension schema. Strange. Can't find that error anywhere (even after adding the ``d'' after predefine). Could it be a problem with this version of Acrobat, maybe? (I'm using Acrobat 9 Pro on Vista + MiKTeK 2.6) Well, your minimal example works w/ Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional on Mac OS X Leopard using MacTeX. I seem to recall your having mentioned files created by Adobe Acrobat not working either --- perhaps the problem is in your Acrobat installation? Have you tried d/l'ing a PDF/A document from somewhere and testing it? I directly sent you files which I made w/ dvips/Acrobat and pdflatex --- if they don't read as PDF/A on your Acrobat, it's broken. PS: I'm not sure how the hyperref package could help, as the document doesn't have any hyperrefs; even the minimal file I posted earlier fails... The hyperref package now has an option which will tag text so that one could use a PDF/A standard other than PDF/A-1b (which is for untagged text). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Full colour book
On Sep 12, 2008, at 7:23 AM, christiaan pauw wrote: I have written a large technical report with LyX and now the project sponsor wants to publish it as a book. The format they are thinking about should be very visual with a lot of photos as backdrop to the pages and things like that. Tough to do in LaTeX, but doable. I have approached a publisher that wants to do it in some DTP program. They see all my beautiful LateX as an obstacle. Well, you could just provided them w/ a tagged text dump --- pretty straightforward search-replace between the two. Ask them for a compleat example markup using Quark XPress Tags or Adobe Tagged Text and match that if you want to go that route. They are going to be very expensive (for example $3000 for indexing). Not a bad price for an index, and well-worth it for a professionally done index. See if you can find an indexer willing to do an embedded index in your LaTeX files though if you go that route. Does anyone have experience or examples of an more popular eye candy approach to publishing with LyX/LaTeX. Some examples of this sort of thing in the TeX Showcase. The big thing is that the image files have to be properly processed in advance, then make the pdf files w/ appropriate pre-press settings (embed all fonts). The difficult thing is getting a nice design done --- w/ a good book design it's just an implementation detail doing the paging in Quark, InDesign or LaTeX. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 12, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: The files do open in PDF/A mode, but when I run preflight on them I get this: Preflight errors from Untitled-ps.pdf Syntax problem: Stream dictionary improperly formatted Width information for glyphs is inconsistent (1 match on 1 page) Untitled-pdflatex.pdf Device process color used but no PDF/A OutputIntent (1 match on 1 page) XMP property not predefined and no extension schema present When I preflight the two documents using: Advanced | Preflight | PDF/A compliance | Verify compliance with PDF/ A-1b | Execute I get ``No problems found'' when using Adobe Acrobat Professional 8 --- I'm going to d/l the demo for v9, but I really think either Acrobat on your machine or Acrobat on Windows is broken. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 11, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: No, it still doesn't work (either through pdflatex or dvips + ps2pdf or dvips + distiller). Did you use the PDF/A-1b:2005 (CMYK) setting in Acrobat Distiller? I tried this w/ a .ps from dvips and it opened in PDF/A mode. If I follow your instructions literally, using pdflatex, opening in Acrobat and saving as PDF/A, Acrobat complains and tells me to use preflight first. It shouldn't. You should save as PDF/A-1b, quit, then re-open the document. This should open it in PDF/A mode. I do so, but this time (from the pdflatex generated file) I get a different error: "XMP property neither predefine nor defined in extension schema". Strange. Can't find that error anywhere (even after adding the ``d'' after predefine). Could it be a problem with this version of Acrobat, maybe? (I'm using Acrobat 9 Pro on Vista + MiKTeK 2.6) Well, your minimal example works w/ Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional on Mac OS X Leopard using MacTeX. I seem to recall your having mentioned files created by Adobe Acrobat not working either --- perhaps the problem is in your Acrobat installation? Have you tried d/l'ing a PDF/A document from somewhere and testing it? I directly sent you files which I made w/ dvips/Acrobat and pdflatex --- if they don't read as PDF/A on your Acrobat, it's broken. PS: I'm not sure how the hyperref package could help, as the document doesn't have any hyperrefs; even the minimal file I posted earlier fails... The hyperref package now has an option which will tag text so that one could use a PDF/A standard other than PDF/A-1b (which is for untagged text). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Full colour book
On Sep 12, 2008, at 7:23 AM, christiaan pauw wrote: I have written a large technical report with LyX and now the project sponsor wants to publish it as a book. The format they are thinking about should be very visual with a lot of photos as backdrop to the pages and things like that. Tough to do in LaTeX, but doable. I have approached a publisher that wants to do it in some DTP program. They see all my beautiful LateX as an obstacle. Well, you could just provided them w/ a tagged text dump --- pretty straightforward search-replace between the two. Ask them for a compleat example markup using Quark XPress Tags or Adobe Tagged Text and match that if you want to go that route. They are going to be very expensive (for example $3000 for indexing). Not a bad price for an index, and well-worth it for a professionally done index. See if you can find an indexer willing to do an embedded index in your LaTeX files though if you go that route. Does anyone have experience or examples of an more popular "eye candy" approach to publishing with LyX/LaTeX. Some examples of this sort of thing in the TeX Showcase. The big thing is that the image files have to be properly processed in advance, then make the pdf files w/ appropriate pre-press settings (embed all fonts). The difficult thing is getting a nice design done --- w/ a good book design it's just an implementation detail doing the paging in Quark, InDesign or LaTeX. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 12, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Ernesto Posse wrote: The files do open in PDF/A mode, but when I run preflight on them I get this: Preflight errors from Untitled-ps.pdf Syntax problem: Stream dictionary improperly formatted Width information for glyphs is inconsistent (1 match on 1 page) Untitled-pdflatex.pdf Device process color used but no PDF/A OutputIntent (1 match on 1 page) XMP property not predefined and no extension schema present When I preflight the two documents using: Advanced | Preflight | PDF/A compliance | Verify compliance with PDF/ A-1b | Execute I get ``No problems found'' when using Adobe Acrobat Professional 8 --- I'm going to d/l the demo for v9, but I really think either Acrobat on your machine or Acrobat on Windows is broken. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 10, 2008, at 2:48 AM, G. Milde wrote: Maybe it's a font issue (the validator not knowing the CM latex fonts)? Nope. I used Ernesto's example file w/ pdflatex and it worked as I described. The problem would seem to be w/ the .pdf generated by Ghostscript since he's using dvips. So prefix it w/ the following step: - take the source .ps file from dvips and distill it in Adobe Acrobat Distiller (instead of Ghostscript --- there should be an option to save a copy of the .ps) using the appropriate .joboptions file which matches your colour model (e.g., PDF/A-1b:2005 (CMYK) Or switch to using pdflatex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 10, 2008, at 7:23 AM, William Adams wrote: Or switch to using pdflatex. Also, Martin Heller mentioned on texhax that the hyperref package as a pdfa option which may help as well. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 10, 2008, at 2:48 AM, G. Milde wrote: Maybe it's a font issue (the validator not knowing the CM latex fonts)? Nope. I used Ernesto's example file w/ pdflatex and it worked as I described. The problem would seem to be w/ the .pdf generated by Ghostscript since he's using dvips. So prefix it w/ the following step: - take the source .ps file from dvips and distill it in Adobe Acrobat Distiller (instead of Ghostscript --- there should be an option to save a copy of the .ps) using the appropriate .joboptions file which matches your colour model (e.g., PDF/A-1b:2005 (CMYK) Or switch to using pdflatex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 10, 2008, at 7:23 AM, William Adams wrote: Or switch to using pdflatex. Also, Martin Heller mentioned on texhax that the hyperref package as a pdfa option which may help as well. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 10, 2008, at 2:48 AM, G. Milde wrote: Maybe it's a font issue (the validator not knowing the CM latex fonts)? Nope. I used Ernesto's example file w/ pdflatex and it worked as I described. The problem would seem to be w/ the .pdf generated by Ghostscript since he's using dvips. So prefix it w/ the following step: - take the source .ps file from dvips and distill it in Adobe Acrobat Distiller (instead of Ghostscript --- there should be an option to save a copy of the .ps) using the appropriate .joboptions file which matches your colour model (e.g., PDF/A-1b:2005 (CMYK) Or switch to using pdflatex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 10, 2008, at 7:23 AM, William Adams wrote: Or switch to using pdflatex. Also, Martin Heller mentioned on texhax that the hyperref package as a pdfa option which may help as well. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Ernesto Posse wrote: Has anyone succeeded in producing a PDF/A file (PDF for archival) from LyX/LaTeX? I've tried tools that claim to generate PDF/A from PostScript files or PDF files (both for Windows and Linux) but I haven't been successful in generating a file which is considered PDF/A compliant by at least two different validators, even with the following minimal file (in LaTeX) via dvips: Since pdflatex can't insert .pdf tags (or is there a package for this?), you need to certify against pdf/A-1b: - Open the file in Adobe Acrobat - Save File As and choose as Format: PDF/A - choose pdf/a-1b in the pop-up - quit Acrobat - re-open the file - preflight (successfully) as PDF/A-1b William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Ernesto Posse wrote: Has anyone succeeded in producing a PDF/A file (PDF for archival) from LyX/LaTeX? I've tried tools that claim to generate PDF/A from PostScript files or PDF files (both for Windows and Linux) but I haven't been successful in generating a file which is considered PDF/A compliant by at least two different validators, even with the following minimal file (in LaTeX) via dvips: Since pdflatex can't insert .pdf tags (or is there a package for this?), you need to certify against pdf/A-1b: - Open the file in Adobe Acrobat - Save File As and choose as Format: PDF/A - choose pdf/a-1b in the pop-up - quit Acrobat - re-open the file - preflight (successfully) as PDF/A-1b William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Generating PDF/A from LyX/LaTeX
On Sep 9, 2008, at 12:54 PM, Ernesto Posse wrote: Has anyone succeeded in producing a PDF/A file (PDF for archival) from LyX/LaTeX? I've tried tools that claim to generate PDF/A from PostScript files or PDF files (both for Windows and Linux) but I haven't been successful in generating a file which is considered PDF/A compliant by at least two different validators, even with the following minimal file (in LaTeX) via dvips: Since pdflatex can't insert .pdf tags (or is there a package for this?), you need to certify against pdf/A-1b: - Open the file in Adobe Acrobat - Save File As and choose as Format: PDF/A - choose pdf/a-1b in the pop-up - quit Acrobat - re-open the file - preflight (successfully) as PDF/A-1b William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
On Aug 29, 2008, at 6:30 AM, G. Milde wrote: There is no Palatino Sans Actually, the new Palatino Nova family introduces Palatino Sans and Palatino Sans Informal: http://www.linotype.com/2567/palatinonova.html William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
On Aug 29, 2008, at 6:30 AM, G. Milde wrote: There is no Palatino Sans Actually, the new Palatino Nova family introduces Palatino Sans and Palatino Sans Informal: http://www.linotype.com/2567/palatinonova.html William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
On Aug 29, 2008, at 6:30 AM, G. Milde wrote: There is no Palatino Sans Actually, the new Palatino Nova family introduces Palatino Sans and Palatino Sans Informal: http://www.linotype.com/2567/palatinonova.html William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Fwd: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
I'd thought this had gone to the list
Begin forwarded message:
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Les Denham wrote:
However, most
people are very much used to Times Roman (and its clones, such as
Times New
Roman)
\begin{typographichistorynitpicking}
Actually, Monotype's Times New Roman is the original, while
Linotype's Times Roman is the clone --- see Walter Tracy's _Letters
of Credit_ for the beginnings of the back story on this and an
article in APHA's journal (sorry, can't recall the details) for the
balance of what's been made known beyond the ``gentlemen's
agreement'' to hide the back room dealings.
\end{typographichistorynitpicking}
--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Fwd: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
Eventually, I'll get in the habit of checking the distribution before clicking ``Send'' Begin forwarded message: On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Bruce Pourciau wrote: Palatino, for example, was designed by Herman Zapf, one of the great type designers, and it is available (in LyX document settings) with small caps, old style numerals, and mathematical symbols that blend. For Times there's also mathptmx which is quite usable, as well as the nascent Stix fonts http://www.stixfonts.org/ or MathTime Professional which is well worth the investment if one needs it but can't wait for Stix. -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Fwd: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
I'd thought this had gone to the list
Begin forwarded message:
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Les Denham wrote:
However, most
people are very much used to Times Roman (and its clones, such as
Times New
Roman)
\begin{typographichistorynitpicking}
Actually, Monotype's Times New Roman is the original, while
Linotype's Times Roman is the clone --- see Walter Tracy's _Letters
of Credit_ for the beginnings of the back story on this and an
article in APHA's journal (sorry, can't recall the details) for the
balance of what's been made known beyond the ``gentlemen's
agreement'' to hide the back room dealings.
\end{typographichistorynitpicking}
--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Fwd: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
Eventually, I'll get in the habit of checking the distribution before clicking ``Send'' Begin forwarded message: On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Bruce Pourciau wrote: Palatino, for example, was designed by Herman Zapf, one of the great type designers, and it is available (in LyX document settings) with small caps, old style numerals, and mathematical symbols that blend. For Times there's also mathptmx which is quite usable, as well as the nascent Stix fonts http://www.stixfonts.org/ or MathTime Professional which is well worth the investment if one needs it but can't wait for Stix. -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Fwd: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
I'd thought this had gone to the list
Begin forwarded message:
On Aug 27, 2008, at 9:44 AM, Les Denham wrote:
However, most
people are very much used to Times Roman (and its clones, such as
Times New
Roman)
\begin{typographichistorynitpicking}
Actually, Monotype's Times New Roman is the original, while
Linotype's Times Roman is the clone --- see Walter Tracy's _Letters
of Credit_ for the beginnings of the back story on this and an
article in APHA's journal (sorry, can't recall the details) for the
balance of what's been made known beyond the ``gentlemen's
agreement'' to hide the back room dealings.
\end{typographichistorynitpicking}
--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Fwd: Times Roman vs Latin Modern Roman Font
Eventually, I'll get in the habit of checking the distribution before clicking ``Send'' Begin forwarded message: On Aug 27, 2008, at 10:27 AM, Bruce Pourciau wrote: Palatino, for example, was designed by Herman Zapf, one of the great type designers, and it is available (in LyX document settings) with small caps, old style numerals, and mathematical symbols that blend. For Times there's also mathptmx which is quite usable, as well as the nascent Stix fonts http://www.stixfonts.org/ or MathTime Professional which is well worth the investment if one needs it but can't wait for Stix. -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: [texhax] Designing books with LaTeX
On Jun 4, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Stacy Claxton wrote: I am familiar with LaTeX and have used it in the past to enter data and equations into a mathematical textbook. I have now been asked to create a design for a book. I know this involves using classes and packages, but I am not familiar with these. I have searched online documentation and have found vague references to designing your own class, usually with only some caution that it is not a straightforward task, and is often best left to the professionals or typically involves a lot of work that is essentially programming and thus does not live easily with the declarative kind of design specification for a document (or range of documents) that would be produced by a professional typographic designer or although some parameters can be adjusted within a predefined document layout, the design of a whole new layout is difficult and takes a lot of time (there's a footnote here suggesting that this is being addressed in the LaTeX3 system?). This does not sound promising. I am a typesetter (I work in publishing and am very familiar with Quark and InDesign) but have no experience with design in LaTeX. Nor do I have extensive programming experience. How difficult would it be to learn how to use classes and packages to come up with a design? And how would I go about learning how to do this? Any feedback or suggested resources would be greatly appreciated. Agree w/ Andy and Lars recommendation of Memoir. The thing that I'd suggest in addition to this is that you work up your design as a package (so after reading an introduction to LaTeX (_The Not So Short Guide_ available at: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/gentle/gentle.pdf) and the Memoir manual you'll also want to read the class guide: http://www.latex-project.org/guides/clsguide.pdf and you should probably also get _The LaTeX Companion 2nd Ed._). Also create a pair of packages one of which will include macros for all typographic tweaks, the other of which includes definitions of them which do nothing --- send authors the latter when returning a manuscript. You'll also likely want to configure fonts, for which your best option is probably XeTeX (you'll be using it w/ LaTeX macros so it'll be xelatex) and Will Robertson's nifty FontSpec package http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/xelatex/fontspec/ though Philipp Lehman's Font Installation Guide is a wonderful document and essential if you'll need to use pdflatex and Type 1 fonts. Useful links to documentation: http://members.aol.com/willadams/books-e-tex.html (my own list of free references for LaTeX) http://www.latex-project.org/guides/ William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: [texhax] Designing books with LaTeX
On Jun 4, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Stacy Claxton wrote: I am familiar with LaTeX and have used it in the past to enter data and equations into a mathematical textbook. I have now been asked to create a design for a book. I know this involves using classes and packages, but I am not familiar with these. I have searched online documentation and have found vague references to designing your own class, usually with only some caution that it is not a straightforward task, and is often best left to the professionals or typically involves a lot of work that is essentially programming and thus does not live easily with the declarative kind of design specification for a document (or range of documents) that would be produced by a professional typographic designer or although some parameters can be adjusted within a predefined document layout, the design of a whole new layout is difficult and takes a lot of time (there's a footnote here suggesting that this is being addressed in the LaTeX3 system?). This does not sound promising. I am a typesetter (I work in publishing and am very familiar with Quark and InDesign) but have no experience with design in LaTeX. Nor do I have extensive programming experience. How difficult would it be to learn how to use classes and packages to come up with a design? And how would I go about learning how to do this? Any feedback or suggested resources would be greatly appreciated. Agree w/ Andy and Lars recommendation of Memoir. The thing that I'd suggest in addition to this is that you work up your design as a package (so after reading an introduction to LaTeX (_The Not So Short Guide_ available at: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/gentle/gentle.pdf) and the Memoir manual you'll also want to read the class guide: http://www.latex-project.org/guides/clsguide.pdf and you should probably also get _The LaTeX Companion 2nd Ed._). Also create a pair of packages one of which will include macros for all typographic tweaks, the other of which includes definitions of them which do nothing --- send authors the latter when returning a manuscript. You'll also likely want to configure fonts, for which your best option is probably XeTeX (you'll be using it w/ LaTeX macros so it'll be xelatex) and Will Robertson's nifty FontSpec package http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/xelatex/fontspec/ though Philipp Lehman's Font Installation Guide is a wonderful document and essential if you'll need to use pdflatex and Type 1 fonts. Useful links to documentation: http://members.aol.com/willadams/books-e-tex.html (my own list of free references for LaTeX) http://www.latex-project.org/guides/ William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: [texhax] Designing books with LaTeX
On Jun 4, 2008, at 3:46 PM, Stacy Claxton wrote: I am familiar with LaTeX and have used it in the past to enter data and equations into a mathematical textbook. I have now been asked to create a design for a book. I know this involves using classes and packages, but I am not familiar with these. I have searched online documentation and have found vague references to designing your own class, usually with only some caution that it "is not a straightforward task, and is often best left to the professionals" or "typically involves a lot of work that is essentially programming and thus does not live easily with the declarative kind of design specification for a document (or range of documents) that would be produced by a professional typographic designer" or "although some parameters can be adjusted within a predefined document layout, the design of a whole new layout is difficult and takes a lot of time" (there's a footnote here suggesting that this is being addressed in the LaTeX3 system?). This does not sound promising. I am a typesetter (I work in publishing and am very familiar with Quark and InDesign) but have no experience with design in LaTeX. Nor do I have extensive programming experience. How difficult would it be to learn how to use classes and packages to come up with a design? And how would I go about learning how to do this? Any feedback or suggested resources would be greatly appreciated. Agree w/ Andy and Lars recommendation of Memoir. The thing that I'd suggest in addition to this is that you work up your design as a package (so after reading an introduction to LaTeX (_The Not So Short Guide_ available at: http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/info/gentle/gentle.pdf) and the Memoir manual you'll also want to read the class guide: http://www.latex-project.org/guides/clsguide.pdf and you should probably also get _The LaTeX Companion 2nd Ed._). Also create a pair of packages one of which will include macros for all typographic tweaks, the other of which includes definitions of them which do nothing --- send authors the latter when returning a manuscript. You'll also likely want to configure fonts, for which your best option is probably XeTeX (you'll be using it w/ LaTeX macros so it'll be xelatex) and Will Robertson's nifty FontSpec package http://www.tug.org/texlive/Contents/live/texmf-dist/doc/xelatex/fontspec/ though Philipp Lehman's Font Installation Guide is a wonderful document and essential if you'll need to use pdflatex and Type 1 fonts. Useful links to documentation: http://members.aol.com/willadams/books-e-tex.html (my own list of free references for LaTeX) http://www.latex-project.org/guides/ William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Sumatra PDF 0.8.1 (for Windows) w/ reload and tex integration now available
at: http://blog.kowalczyk.info/software/sumatrapdf/ release notes here: http://blog.kowalczyk.info/forum_sumatra/topic.php?TopicId=886Posts=8 My thanks to William Blum and Krzysztof Kowalczyk and everyone else who has worked on it. Not sure if the pdfsync functionality will work w/ LyX or no, but if it could be made to, that'd be fabulous. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Sumatra PDF 0.8.1 (for Windows) w/ reload and tex integration now available
at: http://blog.kowalczyk.info/software/sumatrapdf/ release notes here: http://blog.kowalczyk.info/forum_sumatra/topic.php?TopicId=886Posts=8 My thanks to William Blum and Krzysztof Kowalczyk and everyone else who has worked on it. Not sure if the pdfsync functionality will work w/ LyX or no, but if it could be made to, that'd be fabulous. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Sumatra PDF 0.8.1 (for Windows) w/ reload and tex integration now available
at: http://blog.kowalczyk.info/software/sumatrapdf/ release notes here: http://blog.kowalczyk.info/forum_sumatra/topic.php?TopicId=886=8 My thanks to William Blum and Krzysztof Kowalczyk and everyone else who has worked on it. Not sure if the pdfsync functionality will work w/ LyX or no, but if it could be made to, that'd be fabulous. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: how can I adapt documents for LARGE PRINT versions?
On May 1, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: But since the maximum base size is only 12 pts, I gotta ask if I'm missing some obvious technique to easily convert a document for a large print edition without micro managing or losing all the relative font sizes??? Peter Wilson's Memoir documentclass has support for up to 17 pt. type. It also has support for a number of different pagesizes (as well as the ability to define them pretty easily) --- using b5, making a .pdf and using Acrobat's ability to scale .pdfs for display on-screen or print will get one quite large type. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: how can I adapt documents for LARGE PRINT versions?
On May 1, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: But since the maximum base size is only 12 pts, I gotta ask if I'm missing some obvious technique to easily convert a document for a large print edition without micro managing or losing all the relative font sizes??? Peter Wilson's Memoir documentclass has support for up to 17 pt. type. It also has support for a number of different pagesizes (as well as the ability to define them pretty easily) --- using b5, making a .pdf and using Acrobat's ability to scale .pdfs for display on-screen or print will get one quite large type. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: how can I adapt documents for LARGE PRINT versions?
On May 1, 2008, at 12:05 PM, Joe(theWordy)Philbrook wrote: But since the maximum base size is only 12 pts, I gotta ask if I'm missing some obvious technique to easily convert a document for a large print edition without micro managing or losing all the relative font sizes??? Peter Wilson's Memoir documentclass has support for up to 17 pt. type. It also has support for a number of different pagesizes (as well as the ability to define them pretty easily) --- using b5, making a .pdf and using Acrobat's ability to scale .pdfs for display on-screen or print will get one quite large type. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Input Documents on the same page
On Mar 4, 2008, at 2:05 PM, NicoWinger wrote: short question: Is it possible to insert lyx-files (include) without inserting a pagebreak automatically? Not really, because of the need to support ``includeonly'' And by the way: What is the diffence between include and input? The former is the LaTeX command, w/ explicit support for nifty features, the latter is the Plain TeX command which simply switches which file text is coming from. See this thread for more details: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_frm/thread/8ba81ea8ff536ae4/2d28ab8d1562e06d William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Input Documents on the same page
On Mar 4, 2008, at 2:05 PM, NicoWinger wrote: short question: Is it possible to insert lyx-files (include) without inserting a pagebreak automatically? Not really, because of the need to support ``includeonly'' And by the way: What is the diffence between include and input? The former is the LaTeX command, w/ explicit support for nifty features, the latter is the Plain TeX command which simply switches which file text is coming from. See this thread for more details: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_frm/thread/8ba81ea8ff536ae4/2d28ab8d1562e06d William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Input Documents on the same page
On Mar 4, 2008, at 2:05 PM, NicoWinger wrote:
short question: Is it possible to insert lyx-files ("include") without
inserting a pagebreak automatically?
Not really, because of the need to support ``includeonly''
And by the way: What is the diffence
between "include" and "input"?
The former is the LaTeX command, w/ explicit support for nifty
features, the latter is the Plain TeX command which simply switches
which file text is coming from.
See this thread for more details:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.text.tex/browse_frm/thread/8ba81ea8ff536ae4/2d28ab8d1562e06d
William
--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Re: Alt-space on Windows?
On Jan 10, 2008, at 2:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, using keyboard shortcuts when demonstrating LyX turned out to be non-ideal because the person watching wasn't able to follow - it's too fast. A somewhat crazy idea for a demonstration mode LyX could be to have some kind of log window open that lists what you have been done. (Corresponding LFUN and keyboard shortcut?). When I used to teach people how to use FreeHand, I would go through steps at full speed, both as an example of how quickly things could be done, and 'cause I found it difficult to do repetitive tasks slowly, then, undo back to the beginning (FH allowed one to set undo levels up to 100) and step through so that I could explain things slowly. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Alt-space on Windows?
On Jan 10, 2008, at 2:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, using keyboard shortcuts when demonstrating LyX turned out to be non-ideal because the person watching wasn't able to follow - it's too fast. A somewhat crazy idea for a demonstration mode LyX could be to have some kind of log window open that lists what you have been done. (Corresponding LFUN and keyboard shortcut?). When I used to teach people how to use FreeHand, I would go through steps at full speed, both as an example of how quickly things could be done, and 'cause I found it difficult to do repetitive tasks slowly, then, undo back to the beginning (FH allowed one to set undo levels up to 100) and step through so that I could explain things slowly. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Alt-space on Windows?
On Jan 10, 2008, at 2:48 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Btw, using keyboard shortcuts when demonstrating LyX turned out to be non-ideal because the person watching wasn't able to follow - it's too fast. A somewhat crazy idea for a demonstration mode LyX could be to have some kind of log window open that lists what you have been done. (Corresponding LFUN and keyboard shortcut?). When I used to teach people how to use FreeHand, I would go through steps at full speed, both as an example of how quickly things could be done, and 'cause I found it difficult to do repetitive tasks slowly, then, undo back to the beginning (FH allowed one to set undo levels up to 100) and step through so that I could explain things slowly. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
The Stix Unicode math fonts are available in beta
http://www.stixfonts.org/ Has there been any thought to using these for display of math in LyX? William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
The Stix Unicode math fonts are available in beta
http://www.stixfonts.org/ Has there been any thought to using these for display of math in LyX? William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
The Stix Unicode math fonts are available in beta
http://www.stixfonts.org/ Has there been any thought to using these for display of math in LyX? William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Conditional resize of picture
On Oct 23, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Rudi van der Linde wrote: Is it possible to resize a picture only if it is larger than a predetermined size? I am automatically generating a LyX document from a database and it is therefore not possible for me to know the size of the pictures beforehand. I would like LyX to automatically reduce the size of the picture if it won't fit on the page. I was wondering if LyX is able to do the equivalent of the following ImageMagick command: convert -resize 640x480 picture.png While LaTeX won't resample an image (which is a good thing) one can pull in a picture, measure it and then act contextually on said measurement --- a co-worker wrote up macros which did this in a book I did at a previous job. http://www.atlis.com/services/composition/samples/TeX%20Sample% 20Pages/sandefur-C01-lw-1--3.pdf Figures were placed across the marginal notes column if they were wider than the text column. The basic technique is: - insert the graphic into a box - measure the box - do an if then on the measurement of the box, re-using it if desired (which is slightly more efficient) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Conditional resize of picture
On Oct 23, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Rudi van der Linde wrote: Is it possible to resize a picture only if it is larger than a predetermined size? I am automatically generating a LyX document from a database and it is therefore not possible for me to know the size of the pictures beforehand. I would like LyX to automatically reduce the size of the picture if it won't fit on the page. I was wondering if LyX is able to do the equivalent of the following ImageMagick command: convert -resize 640x480 picture.png While LaTeX won't resample an image (which is a good thing) one can pull in a picture, measure it and then act contextually on said measurement --- a co-worker wrote up macros which did this in a book I did at a previous job. http://www.atlis.com/services/composition/samples/TeX%20Sample% 20Pages/sandefur-C01-lw-1--3.pdf Figures were placed across the marginal notes column if they were wider than the text column. The basic technique is: - insert the graphic into a box - measure the box - do an if then on the measurement of the box, re-using it if desired (which is slightly more efficient) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Conditional resize of picture
On Oct 23, 2007, at 12:47 AM, Rudi van der Linde wrote: Is it possible to resize a picture only if it is larger than a predetermined size? I am automatically generating a LyX document from a database and it is therefore not possible for me to know the size of the pictures beforehand. I would like LyX to automatically reduce the size of the picture if it won't fit on the page. I was wondering if LyX is able to do the equivalent of the following ImageMagick command: "convert -resize "640x480>" picture.png" While LaTeX won't resample an image (which is a good thing) one can pull in a picture, measure it and then act contextually on said measurement --- a co-worker wrote up macros which did this in a book I did at a previous job. http://www.atlis.com/services/composition/samples/TeX%20Sample% 20Pages/sandefur-C01-lw-1--3.pdf Figures were placed across the marginal notes column if they were wider than the text column. The basic technique is: - insert the graphic into a box - measure the box - do an if then on the measurement of the box, re-using it if desired (which is slightly more efficient) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Lines and decorative separations
On Oct 12, 2007, at 4:24 AM, Donn wrote: 1. Draw horizontal lines that are of varying lengths and thickness. Also, perhaps some decorative lines, like double lines with a thin part and a thick part under it. These are called ``rules'' in printer's parlance. Some dingbats / ornaments can be used as such as well, so check out ornament fonts. 2. Decorative separators between paragraphs, sections or on-demand. You know the kind of thing, three stars or a leaf to break/mark spaces between things? Memoir has explicit support for these, see ``plainfancybreak'' in the manual. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Lines and decorative separations
On Oct 12, 2007, at 4:24 AM, Donn wrote: 1. Draw horizontal lines that are of varying lengths and thickness. Also, perhaps some decorative lines, like double lines with a thin part and a thick part under it. These are called ``rules'' in printer's parlance. Some dingbats / ornaments can be used as such as well, so check out ornament fonts. 2. Decorative separators between paragraphs, sections or on-demand. You know the kind of thing, three stars or a leaf to break/mark spaces between things? Memoir has explicit support for these, see ``plainfancybreak'' in the manual. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Lines and decorative separations
On Oct 12, 2007, at 4:24 AM, Donn wrote: 1. Draw horizontal lines that are of varying lengths and thickness. Also, perhaps some decorative lines, like double lines with a thin part and a thick part under it. These are called ``rules'' in printer's parlance. Some dingbats / ornaments can be used as such as well, so check out ornament fonts. 2. Decorative separators between paragraphs, sections or on-demand. You know the kind of thing, three stars or a leaf to break/mark spaces between things? Memoir has explicit support for these, see ``plainfancybreak'' in the manual. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document
On Oct 10, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Todd Denniston wrote: I have done such a beast, therefore it can be done. :) Me too! My approach was a bit different though --- I templated a bunch of buttons using Runtime Revolution (a HyperCard clone) which were then output into a text file concatenated along w/ the content of various text fields. The commands either set the output, or re-defined other commands --- worked out quite nicely, allowing people to set telephone line ads w/ a fair bit of flexibility (the system was later up-dated to be server-driven w/ a .html JavaScript front-end). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document
On Oct 10, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Todd Denniston wrote: I have done such a beast, therefore it can be done. :) Me too! My approach was a bit different though --- I templated a bunch of buttons using Runtime Revolution (a HyperCard clone) which were then output into a text file concatenated along w/ the content of various text fields. The commands either set the output, or re-defined other commands --- worked out quite nicely, allowing people to set telephone line ads w/ a fair bit of flexibility (the system was later up-dated to be server-driven w/ a .html JavaScript front-end). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: [OT] Programmatically Creating a LaTeX Document
On Oct 10, 2007, at 12:15 PM, Todd Denniston wrote: I have done such a beast, therefore it can be done. :) Me too! My approach was a bit different though --- I templated a bunch of buttons using Runtime Revolution (a HyperCard clone) which were then output into a text file concatenated along w/ the content of various text fields. The commands either set the output, or re-defined other commands --- worked out quite nicely, allowing people to set telephone line ads w/ a fair bit of flexibility (the system was later up-dated to be server-driven w/ a .html JavaScript front-end). William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: MS Word to LyX?
On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I have another idea. I could write a series of Word macros to find styles and write their names as tags within the text. Then export as text, write a Ruby parser, and convert to LyX. Only thing is, I don't know if I can write the word macros to do that. Any of you know of online documentation on writing fairly complex word macros? I've got MS Word 97 IIRC. Actually, it's fairly simple. Here's a bit of WordBASIC which I found very useful when doing something similar: http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.scripting.indesign/msg/ 4da089d8e1739be1' If you handle special characters and character styles by search- replacing them first, then apply the above code suitably adapted to your needs I believe you'll be all set. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: MS Word to LyX?
On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I have another idea. I could write a series of Word macros to find styles and write their names as tags within the text. Then export as text, write a Ruby parser, and convert to LyX. Only thing is, I don't know if I can write the word macros to do that. Any of you know of online documentation on writing fairly complex word macros? I've got MS Word 97 IIRC. Actually, it's fairly simple. Here's a bit of WordBASIC which I found very useful when doing something similar: http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.scripting.indesign/msg/ 4da089d8e1739be1' If you handle special characters and character styles by search- replacing them first, then apply the above code suitably adapted to your needs I believe you'll be all set. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: MS Word to LyX?
On Sep 4, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Steve Litt wrote: I have another idea. I could write a series of Word macros to find styles and write their names as tags within the text. Then export as text, write a Ruby parser, and convert to LyX. Only thing is, I don't know if I can write the word macros to do that. Any of you know of online documentation on writing fairly complex word macros? I've got MS Word 97 IIRC. Actually, it's fairly simple. Here's a bit of WordBASIC which I found very useful when doing something similar: http://groups.google.com/group/adobe.scripting.indesign/msg/ 4da089d8e1739be1' If you handle special characters and character styles by search- replacing them first, then apply the above code suitably adapted to your needs I believe you'll be all set. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Tables without oldstylenums
On Aug 31, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Niklas Huldén wrote: I have a lengthy (300 p) humanistic manuscript and have enabled \usepackage[osf]mathpazo as to get oldstyle figures across the whole document. However, I also have 50+ tables and if I've understood correctly one should not use oldstylenums except in the main text body. Why? Is there any way to exclude these table floats from the generic option. I could of course mark every number in every table float as math mode but that would seem to be a lengthy operation, as would indeed be replacing all numbers in the text with ERT. Any suggestions? You should be able to set up a redefinition of the font / encoding so that lining figures are used, but again, why? So long as things line up decently (I forget if the oldstyle figures in mathpazo are proportional or lining) things should be fine. Charles Babbage (among others) advocated strongly for the additional differentiation which osf provide in tabular material. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Tables without oldstylenums
On Aug 31, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Niklas Huldén wrote: I have a lengthy (300 p) humanistic manuscript and have enabled \usepackage[osf]mathpazo as to get oldstyle figures across the whole document. However, I also have 50+ tables and if I've understood correctly one should not use oldstylenums except in the main text body. Why? Is there any way to exclude these table floats from the generic option. I could of course mark every number in every table float as math mode but that would seem to be a lengthy operation, as would indeed be replacing all numbers in the text with ERT. Any suggestions? You should be able to set up a redefinition of the font / encoding so that lining figures are used, but again, why? So long as things line up decently (I forget if the oldstyle figures in mathpazo are proportional or lining) things should be fine. Charles Babbage (among others) advocated strongly for the additional differentiation which osf provide in tabular material. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Tables without oldstylenums
On Aug 31, 2007, at 7:06 AM, Niklas Huldén wrote: I have a lengthy (300 p) humanistic manuscript and have enabled \usepackage[osf]mathpazo as to get oldstyle figures across the whole document. However, I also have 50+ tables and if I've understood correctly one should not use oldstylenums except in the main text body. Why? Is there any way to exclude these table floats from the generic option. I could of course mark every number in every table float as "math mode" but that would seem to be a lengthy operation, as would indeed be replacing all numbers in the text with ERT. Any suggestions? You should be able to set up a redefinition of the font / encoding so that lining figures are used, but again, why? So long as things line up decently (I forget if the oldstyle figures in mathpazo are proportional or lining) things should be fine. Charles Babbage (among others) advocated strongly for the additional differentiation which osf provide in tabular material. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Mostly this is commentary on the default LaTeX settings, but more
feedback:
- pg. xvi should be truly blank (no need for a folio) --- ditto for
xviii c.
- Synch .pdf page numbers w/ those used in the text --- either re-
set the page numbering so that roman numerals are used for the pdf
page numbering, or since it's only going to be electronically set
from an entire file, renumber using Arabic numerals from the
beginning --- this latter would mean that Chapter 1 would start on
pg. 21
- pg. 1 --- ``If you sent it to a professional publisher, and if it
were
accepted for publication, it would be edited by a professional
editor, made into a book by a professional designer and set into
type by a professional typesetter.''
I'd say ``...designed by a professional book designer...'' instead
--- in general, they don't make books, only a layout sample and a set
of specifications.
- pg. 2 --- the quote block has an overfull first line --- set it
w/ no indent?
- pg. 3 --- _four_ hyphens in a row! Set the quoted material
smaller or don't indent it so much
- pg. 4 --- I know some professionals who do enjoy indexing
- pg. 6 7 --- list separated from preceding text --- run chapter
(or preceding spread) short or make other adjustment to get at least
two lines from pg. 6 onto pg. 7
- pg. 15 --- two word stack on lines 7 and 8
- pgs. 18 19 --- don't allow a colon to fall at the bottom of a
page, separated from the material it precedes
- pg. 24 --- Figure captions are indistinguishable from text ---
set them off somehow
- pg. 25 --- I strongly disagree w/ the recommendation to resample
screen graphics --- see previous discussion on this list
- pg. 28 --- use typographer's, not shilling fraction
- pg. 28 --- don't break between page number and identifier ``page~
\pageref{whatever}
- pg. 29 --- please don't overbox tables --- see the booktabs
documentation for a discussion of this and a good toolkit for setting
nice tables.
- pg. 30 --- please have at least 6 or 7 lines on the last page ---
run the chapter short by a line, or the previous spread long to fix this
- pg. 41 --- (and elsewhere) don't allow a figure to float on a
page like that --- tighten up the preceding text or slightly adjust
the figures to make them fit where they fall.
Throughout:
- use pdftex and the microtype package and hanging punctuation?
- clean up the edges of your screen grabs --- the first one has a
black line to the left, others don't
- spreads don't cross-align --- why not?
- don't allow the last line of a paragraph to be only one word,
esp. a word shorter than the paragraph indent (e.g., ``it'' on pg.
19) --- don't hyphenate the penultimate line of a paragraph (pg. 21)
Using memoir would fix some of the above, but a lot of it would have
to be done by hand.
William
--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Mostly this is commentary on the default LaTeX settings, but more
feedback:
- pg. xvi should be truly blank (no need for a folio) --- ditto for
xviii c.
- Synch .pdf page numbers w/ those used in the text --- either re-
set the page numbering so that roman numerals are used for the pdf
page numbering, or since it's only going to be electronically set
from an entire file, renumber using Arabic numerals from the
beginning --- this latter would mean that Chapter 1 would start on
pg. 21
- pg. 1 --- ``If you sent it to a professional publisher, and if it
were
accepted for publication, it would be edited by a professional
editor, made into a book by a professional designer and set into
type by a professional typesetter.''
I'd say ``...designed by a professional book designer...'' instead
--- in general, they don't make books, only a layout sample and a set
of specifications.
- pg. 2 --- the quote block has an overfull first line --- set it
w/ no indent?
- pg. 3 --- _four_ hyphens in a row! Set the quoted material
smaller or don't indent it so much
- pg. 4 --- I know some professionals who do enjoy indexing
- pg. 6 7 --- list separated from preceding text --- run chapter
(or preceding spread) short or make other adjustment to get at least
two lines from pg. 6 onto pg. 7
- pg. 15 --- two word stack on lines 7 and 8
- pgs. 18 19 --- don't allow a colon to fall at the bottom of a
page, separated from the material it precedes
- pg. 24 --- Figure captions are indistinguishable from text ---
set them off somehow
- pg. 25 --- I strongly disagree w/ the recommendation to resample
screen graphics --- see previous discussion on this list
- pg. 28 --- use typographer's, not shilling fraction
- pg. 28 --- don't break between page number and identifier ``page~
\pageref{whatever}
- pg. 29 --- please don't overbox tables --- see the booktabs
documentation for a discussion of this and a good toolkit for setting
nice tables.
- pg. 30 --- please have at least 6 or 7 lines on the last page ---
run the chapter short by a line, or the previous spread long to fix this
- pg. 41 --- (and elsewhere) don't allow a figure to float on a
page like that --- tighten up the preceding text or slightly adjust
the figures to make them fit where they fall.
Throughout:
- use pdftex and the microtype package and hanging punctuation?
- clean up the edges of your screen grabs --- the first one has a
black line to the left, others don't
- spreads don't cross-align --- why not?
- don't allow the last line of a paragraph to be only one word,
esp. a word shorter than the paragraph indent (e.g., ``it'' on pg.
19) --- don't hyphenate the penultimate line of a paragraph (pg. 21)
Using memoir would fix some of the above, but a lot of it would have
to be done by hand.
William
--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Re: Self-publishing with LyX
Mostly this is commentary on the default LaTeX settings, but more
feedback:
- pg. xvi should be truly blank (no need for a folio) --- ditto for
xviii
- Synch .pdf page numbers w/ those used in the text --- either re-
set the page numbering so that roman numerals are used for the pdf
page numbering, or since it's only going to be electronically set
from an entire file, renumber using Arabic numerals from the
beginning --- this latter would mean that Chapter 1 would start on
pg. 21
- pg. 1 --- ``If you sent it to a professional publisher, and if it
were
accepted for publication, it would be edited by a professional
editor, made into a book by a professional designer and set into
type by a professional typesetter.''
I'd say ``...designed by a professional book designer...'' instead
--- in general, they don't make books, only a layout sample and a set
of specifications.
- pg. 2 --- the quote block has an overfull first line --- set it
w/ no indent?
- pg. 3 --- _four_ hyphens in a row! Set the quoted material
smaller or don't indent it so much
- pg. 4 --- I know some professionals who do enjoy indexing
- pg. 6 & 7 --- list separated from preceding text --- run chapter
(or preceding spread) short or make other adjustment to get at least
two lines from pg. 6 onto pg. 7
- pg. 15 --- two word stack on lines 7 and 8
- pgs. 18 & 19 --- don't allow a colon to fall at the bottom of a
page, separated from the material it precedes
- pg. 24 --- Figure captions are indistinguishable from text ---
set them off somehow
- pg. 25 --- I strongly disagree w/ the recommendation to resample
screen graphics --- see previous discussion on this list
- pg. 28 --- use typographer's, not shilling fraction
- pg. 28 --- don't break between page number and identifier ``page~
\pageref{whatever}
- pg. 29 --- please don't overbox tables --- see the booktabs
documentation for a discussion of this and a good toolkit for setting
nice tables.
- pg. 30 --- please have at least 6 or 7 lines on the last page ---
run the chapter short by a line, or the previous spread long to fix this
- pg. 41 --- (and elsewhere) don't allow a figure to float on a
page like that --- tighten up the preceding text or slightly adjust
the figures to make them fit where they fall.
Throughout:
- use pdftex and the microtype package and hanging punctuation?
- clean up the edges of your screen grabs --- the first one has a
black line to the left, others don't
- spreads don't cross-align --- why not?
- don't allow the last line of a paragraph to be only one word,
esp. a word shorter than the paragraph indent (e.g., ``it'' on pg.
19) --- don't hyphenate the penultimate line of a paragraph (pg. 21)
Using memoir would fix some of the above, but a lot of it would have
to be done by hand.
William
--
William Adams
senior graphic designer
Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Nick and Anne Hopton wrote: One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the same XP machine as MikTeX? Yes. I use the w32tex install in addition to MikTeX and it works fine (MikTeX was installed first, so comes before w32tex in the path statements, so MikTeX gets used in preference to w32tex, but xetex gets used from w32tex 'cause it's not present in MikTeX). There're also instructions on ``How to use XeTeX for W32 on Web2C- based TeX distribution other than W32TeX'' --- I think those would work w/ MikTeX, but haven't investigated, since I already had w32tex set up. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Nick and Anne Hopton wrote: One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the same XP machine as MikTeX? Yes. I use the w32tex install in addition to MikTeX and it works fine (MikTeX was installed first, so comes before w32tex in the path statements, so MikTeX gets used in preference to w32tex, but xetex gets used from w32tex 'cause it's not present in MikTeX). There're also instructions on ``How to use XeTeX for W32 on Web2C- based TeX distribution other than W32TeX'' --- I think those would work w/ MikTeX, but haven't investigated, since I already had w32tex set up. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 22, 2007, at 12:54 PM, Nick and Anne Hopton wrote: One other question about XeTeX, will it happily co-exist on the same XP machine as MikTeX? Yes. I use the w32tex install in addition to MikTeX and it works fine (MikTeX was installed first, so comes before w32tex in the path statements, so MikTeX gets used in preference to w32tex, but xetex gets used from w32tex 'cause it's not present in MikTeX). There're also instructions on ``How to use XeTeX for W32 on Web2C- based TeX distribution other than W32TeX'' --- I think those would work w/ MikTeX, but haven't investigated, since I already had w32tex set up. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with sources. None work. In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing list: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with sources. None work. In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing list: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 21, 2007, at 5:46 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: I download from xetex site rpm with bin and with sources. None work. In that case, I'd suggest joining the xetex mailing list: http://tug.org/mailman/listinfo/xetex Or you could try TeXlive which now includes xetex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: How I can get xelatex? I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN. It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex. http://scripts.sil.org/xetex This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse 10.2) that no work at all. I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited. Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and compile that? or http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex. Thanks. I will try with last site. I'm afraid that last is for Windows (didn't realise you were on Linux) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: How I can get xelatex? I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN. It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex. http://scripts.sil.org/xetex This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse 10.2) that no work at all. I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited. Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and compile that? or http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex. Thanks. I will try with last site. I'm afraid that last is for Windows (didn't realise you were on Linux) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 15, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: How I can get xelatex? I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN. It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex. http://scripts.sil.org/xetex This site give to me rpm´s for suse (I have opensuse 10.2) that no work at all. I'm afraid my usage of Linux is pretty limited. Have you tried using svn to d/l the source and compile that? or http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex. Thanks. I will try with last site. I'm afraid that last is for Windows (didn't realise you were on Linux) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: How I can get xelatex? I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN. It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex. http://scripts.sil.org/xetex or http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: How I can get xelatex? I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN. It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex. http://scripts.sil.org/xetex or http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 14, 2007, at 4:15 PM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: How I can get xelatex? I can´t see any package with this name in CTAN. It's not a package, but a binary format of the latex macros processed by XeTeX which is loaded by xetex. http://scripts.sil.org/xetex or http://www.fsci.fuk.kindai.ac.jp/kakuto/win32-ptex/web2c75-e.html will allow you to download and install xetex which will include xelatex. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Improving images for printing?
On Aug 13, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: I couldn't figure out how to get the resolution to change without also changing my width and height. Thanks for telling me None as that appears to work for me. Also I use the GIMP to save it in the exact size I want so I don't have to scale using \includegraphics[scale=a.bc]. I am saving as PNG images. My final book PDF is probably going to grow from less than 10MB to over 100MB due to the new PNGs, but I think my printer will accept that. Actually, you'll get better quality if you _don't_ resample the images, but instead, merely set them to the desired physical print size. Turning on the direct interpolation key when saving them as a .eps or .pdf will help w/ some RIPs as well, but I don't know if GIMP can do that. At any rate, you'll need to tell the printer that they should accept the probably low-resolution images That said, the best option is re-creating or re-drawing the screengrabs so that they're resolution independent or can be rendered / scanned at print resolution --- Michael Harvey did the latter for his book _Creative Lettering_. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Improving images for printing?
On Aug 13, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: I couldn't figure out how to get the resolution to change without also changing my width and height. Thanks for telling me None as that appears to work for me. Also I use the GIMP to save it in the exact size I want so I don't have to scale using \includegraphics[scale=a.bc]. I am saving as PNG images. My final book PDF is probably going to grow from less than 10MB to over 100MB due to the new PNGs, but I think my printer will accept that. Actually, you'll get better quality if you _don't_ resample the images, but instead, merely set them to the desired physical print size. Turning on the direct interpolation key when saving them as a .eps or .pdf will help w/ some RIPs as well, but I don't know if GIMP can do that. At any rate, you'll need to tell the printer that they should accept the probably low-resolution images That said, the best option is re-creating or re-drawing the screengrabs so that they're resolution independent or can be rendered / scanned at print resolution --- Michael Harvey did the latter for his book _Creative Lettering_. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Improving images for printing?
On Aug 13, 2007, at 11:00 PM, Jeremy C. Reed wrote: I couldn't figure out how to get the resolution to change without also changing my width and height. Thanks for telling me "None" as that appears to work for me. Also I use the GIMP to save it in the exact size I want so I don't have to scale using \includegraphics[scale=a.bc]. I am saving as PNG images. My final book PDF is probably going to grow from less than 10MB to over 100MB due to the new PNGs, but I think my printer will accept that. Actually, you'll get better quality if you _don't_ resample the images, but instead, merely set them to the desired physical print size. Turning on the direct interpolation key when saving them as a .eps or .pdf will help w/ some RIPs as well, but I don't know if GIMP can do that. At any rate, you'll need to tell the printer that they should accept the probably low-resolution images That said, the best option is re-creating or re-drawing the screengrabs so that they're resolution independent or can be rendered / scanned at print resolution --- Michael Harvey did the latter for his book _Creative Lettering_. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and OpenType fonts. It delivers too. Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell. It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around what needs to be done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though as I alluded to in my TUG2003 paper: http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in TUGboat if memory serves. XeTeX work with Lyx? W/ xelatex, yes. You do need to be careful of which packages are used (babel in particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex is a drop-in replacement for tex, and xelatex is a straight-forward usage of LaTeX. Here's a page w/ specific instructions: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX (which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if I understand the new features of LyX v1.5) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and OpenType fonts. It delivers too. Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell. It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around what needs to be done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though as I alluded to in my TUG2003 paper: http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in TUGboat if memory serves. XeTeX work with Lyx? W/ xelatex, yes. You do need to be careful of which packages are used (babel in particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex is a drop-in replacement for tex, and xelatex is a straight-forward usage of LaTeX. Here's a page w/ specific instructions: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX (which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if I understand the new features of LyX v1.5) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: question about XeTex, ConTeXt and others
On Aug 12, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Marcelo Acuña wrote: I am interested in XeTeX because it promise easy "font handling which allows the usage of TrueType and OpenType fonts". It delivers too. Add new fonts for Latex and Lyx is very dificult for me. I don´t understand instrucction for it. For me instruction look like a hot hell. It's not that bad, once one wraps one's mind around what needs to be done and why. XeTeX is a much better option though as I alluded to in my TUG2003 paper: http://www.tug.org/TUGboat/Articles/tb24-2/tb77adams.pdf There've been some articles on using LyX w/ xetex in TUGboat if memory serves. XeTeX work with Lyx? W/ xelatex, yes. You do need to be careful of which packages are used (babel in particular is awkward), but for the most part, xetex is a drop-in replacement for tex, and xelatex is a straight-forward usage of LaTeX. Here's a page w/ specific instructions: http://wiki.lyx.org/Mac/XeTeX (which need to be up-dated re: LyX handling UTF8 if I understand the new features of LyX v1.5) William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: LaTeX question
On Jul 17, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Hellmut Weber wrote: AS LONG AS you don't have illegal cahrs in your path (Like '_' which I use quite a lot. Does anybody know how to modify TeX strings as 'Test_01' to 'Test \_01', i.e. escape the illegal chars with a backslash. I'm sure it is possible but my TeX knowledge is not sufficient. Change the catcode so that underscore is treated as a letter instead: \catcode`\_=12\relax should do it. Since you're at the end of a document no need to restore it I think, but if you wish to, doing so is left as an exercise for the reader. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: LaTeX question
On Jul 17, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Hellmut Weber wrote: AS LONG AS you don't have illegal cahrs in your path (Like '_' which I use quite a lot. Does anybody know how to modify TeX strings as 'Test_01' to 'Test \_01', i.e. escape the illegal chars with a backslash. I'm sure it is possible but my TeX knowledge is not sufficient. Change the catcode so that underscore is treated as a letter instead: \catcode`\_=12\relax should do it. Since you're at the end of a document no need to restore it I think, but if you wish to, doing so is left as an exercise for the reader. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: LaTeX question
On Jul 17, 2007, at 5:03 PM, Hellmut Weber wrote: AS LONG AS you don't have "illegal" cahrs in your path (Like '_' which I use quite a lot. Does anybody know how to modify TeX strings as 'Test_01' to 'Test \_01', i.e. escape the illegal chars with a backslash. I'm sure it is possible but my TeX knowledge is not sufficient. Change the catcode so that underscore is treated as a letter instead: \catcode`\_=12\relax should do it. Since you're at the end of a document no need to restore it I think, but if you wish to, doing so is left as an exercise for the reader. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Hyphenation across pages
On Jul 6, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Tom Schlangen wrote: in a large text using document class book (koma-script), I noticed automatic hyphenations being done across pages, which I doubt is correct behaviour according to typesetting rules. At least, it looks very ugly. In the Lyx manual it is mentioned that the auto-hyphenation actually is done by Latex (in my case: MikTex, Windows version, at current patchlevel) according to language rules (which I did set accordingly). Is there a chance to influence/forbid cross-page hyphenation by means of the LyX frontend, or is this just a MikTeX bug? Not a bug, an intractable problem. It can be addressed to some extent by setting \brokenpenalty=1 but that won't persuade LaTeX to re-flow the paragraph, but will carry the offending line to the next page, which depending on available glue and the flexibility of the page layout (esp. whether or \raggedbottom is in effect) and your expectations (do you want spreads to cross-align, how many lines short can one make pages run c.) may not work out. Normally this sort of thing is addressed as one of the final typographic adjustments (prevent the hyphenation by \mbox'ing the text, re-run LaTeX, see if the paragraph gained or lost a line, adjust if need be (\looseness+/-1), see if some other bad hyphenation appeared, repeat until the page comes out as desired). Ages ago, when I was [EMAIL PROTECTED] I posted a lengthy description of my process for this sort of thing to the Typo-L mailing list --- mostly common-sense derived from experience you might find it useful to save you from some working at cross-purposes. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Hyphenation across pages
On Jul 6, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Tom Schlangen wrote: in a large text using document class book (koma-script), I noticed automatic hyphenations being done across pages, which I doubt is correct behaviour according to typesetting rules. At least, it looks very ugly. In the Lyx manual it is mentioned that the auto-hyphenation actually is done by Latex (in my case: MikTex, Windows version, at current patchlevel) according to language rules (which I did set accordingly). Is there a chance to influence/forbid cross-page hyphenation by means of the LyX frontend, or is this just a MikTeX bug? Not a bug, an intractable problem. It can be addressed to some extent by setting \brokenpenalty=1 but that won't persuade LaTeX to re-flow the paragraph, but will carry the offending line to the next page, which depending on available glue and the flexibility of the page layout (esp. whether or \raggedbottom is in effect) and your expectations (do you want spreads to cross-align, how many lines short can one make pages run c.) may not work out. Normally this sort of thing is addressed as one of the final typographic adjustments (prevent the hyphenation by \mbox'ing the text, re-run LaTeX, see if the paragraph gained or lost a line, adjust if need be (\looseness+/-1), see if some other bad hyphenation appeared, repeat until the page comes out as desired). Ages ago, when I was [EMAIL PROTECTED] I posted a lengthy description of my process for this sort of thing to the Typo-L mailing list --- mostly common-sense derived from experience you might find it useful to save you from some working at cross-purposes. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: Hyphenation across pages
On Jul 6, 2007, at 6:23 AM, Tom Schlangen wrote: in a large text using document class "book (koma-script"), I noticed automatic hyphenations being done across pages, which I doubt is correct behaviour according to typesetting rules. At least, it looks very ugly. In the Lyx manual it is mentioned that the auto-hyphenation actually is done by Latex (in my case: MikTex, Windows version, at current patchlevel) according to language rules (which I did set accordingly). Is there a chance to influence/forbid cross-page hyphenation by means of the LyX frontend, or is this just a MikTeX bug? Not a bug, an intractable problem. It can be addressed to some extent by setting \brokenpenalty=1 but that won't persuade LaTeX to re-flow the paragraph, but will carry the offending line to the next page, which depending on available glue and the flexibility of the page layout (esp. whether or \raggedbottom is in effect) and your expectations (do you want spreads to cross-align, how many lines short can one make pages run ) may not work out. Normally this sort of thing is addressed as one of the final typographic adjustments (prevent the hyphenation by \mbox'ing the text, re-run LaTeX, see if the paragraph gained or lost a line, adjust if need be (\looseness+/-1), see if some other bad hyphenation appeared, repeat until the page comes out as desired). Ages ago, when I was [EMAIL PROTECTED] I posted a lengthy description of my process for this sort of thing to the Typo-L mailing list --- mostly common-sense derived from experience you might find it useful to save you from some working at cross-purposes. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
Re: book class
On Jun 26, 2007, at 8:58 PM, reed wrote: What would be a good latex class for writing books and how do I add it to lyx? Jeremy's suggestion of koma-script is good, esp. if you're in Europe or want to use European typographic standards. In the U.S., or if you want to use American style settings, or if your English is better than your German (or whatever other languages the koma-script docs have been translated to by native speakers) you may find Memoir a good choice. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications
