Re: Labelling equations
Christopher Stowasser wrote: Ok, now it works perfectly! Thanks you two. Its so much text to read in this help guides... Yes, true. People---especially Uwe---have put a lot of work into those guides. Much of what's in them you probably don't need to know, so I usually recommend that people read the Tutorial fairly closely, and then read the User's Guide quickly, just skimming parts that don't really interest them. The other manuals contain tons of useful information---but not for everyone, since they're more specialized. I've never read the Embedded Objects manual, for example, since it basically doesn't apply to me. Remember too that you can use the Navigate menu, or open the Outline, to see a table of contents and decide what you might want to read. Oh, and that you can View>PDF and then print the manuals so you don't have to read them at your computer. rh
Re: Labelling equations
Ok, now it works perfectly! Thanks you two. Its so much text to read in this help guides... Have a nice weekend! 2008/8/2 Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my > > equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that > the > > purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that? > > > > To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are > centered > > and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using > > the "paragraph settings". > > > > To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X version > 10.5.3. > > The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5. > > > > Thank you again very much for your help. > > > > Greetings, > > Chris > > > > Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}. > > Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are > two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an > equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered > on its own line. > > To access the two types use: Insert->Math->Inline Formula or Display > Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command->M for Inline formula and > Command+shift->M for Display formula on MacOSX. > > You may also want to take some time to read through some of the > documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help->User's > Guide Chapter 5 or Help->Math. These issues are explained there. > > Cheers, > /Bob > -- Christopher Stowasser Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH 2200 København N Danmark
Re: Labelling equations
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:36 AM, Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my >> equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the >> purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that? >> >> To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered >> and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using >> the "paragraph settings". >> >> To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X version 10.5.3. >> The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5. >> >> Thank you again very much for your help. >> >> Greetings, >> Chris >> > > Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}. > > Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are > two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an > equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered > on its own line. > > To access the two types use: Insert->Math->Inline Formula or Display > Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command->M for Inline formula and > Command+shift->M for Display formula on MacOSX. > > You may also want to take some time to read through some of the > documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help->User's > Guide Chapter 5 or Help->Math. These issues are explained there. > > Cheers, > /Bob > Oops, I forgot to add that Inline formula cannot be labeled whereas Display formula can. This is why the Label button is grayed out because you've inserted Inline formula not Display formula. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Labelling equations
On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Christopher Stowasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my > equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the > purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that? > > To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered > and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using > the "paragraph settings". > > To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X version 10.5.3. > The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5. > > Thank you again very much for your help. > > Greetings, > Chris > Ok. I understand now. You're just not using the program correctly :-}. Math equations are not adjusted with 'paragraph settings'. There are two types of equations in LyX: Inline and Display. Inline is an equation that is inline with text and Display is an equation centered on its own line. To access the two types use: Insert->Math->Inline Formula or Display Formula. Alternatively, you can use Command->M for Inline formula and Command+shift->M for Display formula on MacOSX. You may also want to take some time to read through some of the documentation available in the Help menu. For instance: Help->User's Guide Chapter 5 or Help->Math. These issues are explained there. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Labelling equations
I sorry, but I don't understand your answer completely. I want to give my equations numbers, i.e. from (1.1), (1.2),.to (3.3.) f. ex.. Is that the purpose of the label function? If not, what function doe that? To the first part of your answer. The equations I want to label are centered and stand alone in their row. I centered them after writing them by using the "paragraph settings". To your answer Bob: I am using a mac book with Mach OS X version 10.5.3.The version of LyX I am using is LyX/Mac 1.5.5. Thank you again very much for your help. Greetings, Chris 2008/8/1 rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Bob Lounsbury wrote: > >> On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >>> I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. >>> What >>> I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in >>> the >>> normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in >>> the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label >>> the >>> equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the >>> equation >>> it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess. >>> >>> >> >> >> It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This >> is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It >> may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what >> version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling >> doesn't help. >> >> >> > I see it disabled as well, UNLESS the equation is in "display" mode---i.e., > centered by itself on a separate line. It is meant to work that way. The > reason is that labeled equations are also NUMBERED equations, and the > mechanism that's used to do the label isn't available if the equation hasn't > been set off. > > Perhaps part of the confusion is that what LyX calls "labels" don't > normally appear in the text. They're just targets for cross-references. So > you can label the equation if you like by putting a label after it. But it > won't have a number, and the only cross-reference you'll be able to do will > be by page, really. > > rh > > -- Christopher Stowasser Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH 2200 København N Danmark
Re: Labelling equations
Waluyo Adi Siswanto wrote: I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box. That would be a good idea, if LyX could accommodate new users by switching to displayed mode and numbered? when inline formula is forced to have label. If you change this to a dialog that says the formula must be numbered (and therefore in display mode) to bear a label, and give the user the option to either switch it to display mode or scrap the label, that would make sense to me. There may be a larger question here, though. It seems to me that there are a variety of situations where a menu item won't work and is grayed out (short title and optional argument come to mind). Do the developers want to provide explanations/corrections for all of them? I think (based on list traffic) the optional argument one is a more common problem than labels in inline math insets. /Paul
Re: Labelling equations
> I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that > haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion > also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula > if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX > did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box. > > Abdel. > That would be a good idea, if LyX could accommodate new users by switching to displayed mode and numbered? when inline formula is forced to have label. /Adi
Re: Labelling equations
Paul A. Rubin wrote: Christopher Stowasser wrote: I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label the equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess. Just to make sure we're all on the same page, you're talking about a displayed math inset (on its own line), right? If you have a math inset in the middle of a line of text, you won't be able to insert a label (the label item on the insert menu is grayed out), because inserting a label there makes no sense. A label in a math inset refers to the equation number, and in-line math insets don't get numbered. I can understand that this behavior is confusing for a new comer that haven't read the tutorial :-). Maybe we should authorize label insertion also for inline formulas and automatically switch to displayed formula if a label is inserted. Maybe with a warning box that explains what LyX did and what the user should do in order to avoid this warning box. Abdel.
Re: Labelling equations
Bob Lounsbury wrote: On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label the equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess. It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling doesn't help. I see it disabled as well, UNLESS the equation is in "display" mode---i.e., centered by itself on a separate line. It is meant to work that way. The reason is that labeled equations are also NUMBERED equations, and the mechanism that's used to do the label isn't available if the equation hasn't been set off. Perhaps part of the confusion is that what LyX calls "labels" don't normally appear in the text. They're just targets for cross-references. So you can label the equation if you like by putting a label after it. But it won't have a number, and the only cross-reference you'll be able to do will be by page, really. rh
Re: Labelling equations
Christopher Stowasser wrote: I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label the equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess. Just to make sure we're all on the same page, you're talking about a displayed math inset (on its own line), right? If you have a math inset in the middle of a line of text, you won't be able to insert a label (the label item on the insert menu is grayed out), because inserting a label there makes no sense. A label in a math inset refers to the equation number, and in-line math insets don't get numbered. /Paul
Re: Labelling equations
On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 2:10 AM, Christopher Stowasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What > I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the > normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in > the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label the > equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation > it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess. It sounds as if you have a problem with the installation of LyX. This is obviously not normal behavior. I would trying reinstalling LyX. It may help developer's to know what platform you are using and what version of LyX. You may also need to file a bug report if reinstalling doesn't help. Cheers, /Bob
Re: Labelling equations
I admit, that my last sentence is very confusing. Just forget about it. What I meant was: If I put the cursor before or behind the math box, i.e in the normal text, I can use the label function. As soon as I put the cursor in the math box the label function is inactive. Therefore I cannot label the equation in the math box. As long as I cannot asign a label to the equation it makes no sense to look at the pdf I guess. Greetings, Christopher 2008/7/31 Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stowasser > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation > I > > put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to > > "insert" and to "label". The function "label" is written in grey letters > > now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function > > "label" works, but I cannot label the equation. > > > > Thanks in advance! > > Christopher > > > > I'm a little confused you may have to explain further. What do you > mean the "label" works, but I cannot label the equation? How do you > want to label it? What you have done should work. When you create a > pdf of you file the equation should be numbered for instance (1) in > article class because you entered Insert->Label. > > Cheers, > /Bob > -- Christopher Stowasser Nørrebrogade 100, 2 TH 2200 København N Danmark
Re: Labelling equations
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 7:02 AM, Christopher Stowasser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation I > put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to > "insert" and to "label". The function "label" is written in grey letters > now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function > "label" works, but I cannot label the equation. > > Thanks in advance! > Christopher > I'm a little confused you may have to explain further. What do you mean the "label" works, but I cannot label the equation? How do you want to label it? What you have done should work. When you create a pdf of you file the equation should be numbered for instance (1) in article class because you entered Insert->Label. Cheers, /Bob
Labelling equations
Hi, I have a problem with labelling equations. If I want to label an equation I put the cursor in the pink box surrounding the equation. Then I go to "insert" and to "label". The function "label" is written in grey letters now, i.e. inactive. If the cursor is outside the pink box the function "label" works, but I cannot label the equation. Thanks in advance! Christopher