I just got wind, from a friend of mine, that the only reason Apple is
accessible to us is because of a lawsuit by the NFB. The term of the
agreement was for accessibility improvements for three years. Here's a
question. First, what's your side of this ordeal? Second, who thinks Apple
will keep up
They've put too much effert into this to F it up and they'll have hell if they
don't keep up with it and not to mentioin lose a load of customers
- Original Message -
From: Rob Lambert
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 2:08 AM
Subject: What do
Hi all
There is an iPhone daisy player starting beta testing now. Created by the same
people as Olearia at Curtin Uni, but a complete re-write. Its not fully
functional yet but very close. NLS support is planned btw.
On 12/04/2010, at 8:57 AM, Frank Tom wrote:
Hi there,
I don't know
Hi,
I seriously doubt that is the case. Apple accessibility has been around for six
years now, not three. I doubt NFB had anything to do with it. Apple is going to
keep it up because they are committed. The article about the lawsuit doesn't
actually mention Apple much.
There is actually a
Hello Nic,
Thank you for this post. You've just saved me from going on a major rant along
the same lines.
Cheers,
Anne
On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
Hi,
I seriously doubt that is the case. Apple accessibility has been around for
six years now, not three. I doubt
I apologize if I opened a can of worms.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:30 AM, Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.ukwrote:
Hello Nic,
Thank you for this post. You've just saved me from going on a major rant
along the same lines.
Cheers,
Anne
On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:14 AM, Nicolai Svendsen
Takes a deep breath.
Oh yeah, like the damn nfb cares. if they cared so much, then why don't
training centers demo macs.
It's call money. I hate the * nfb.
- Original Message -
From: Anne Robertson a...@anarchie.org.uk
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April
I would also like to thank you, Nic, for saving my bacon. Like Anne I was going
to take issue with NFB and others who love to gripe for the sake of griping.
You saved me from being called tactless twice in the same week. Even though I
don't use Jaws the idea of uninstall, install, uninstall,
lol, that made me chuckle a bit.
nfb have so many issues and I feel bad for the newly blinded who don't know
any better, but they can't f those who've been blind over. I walked out of
the training center in mississippi giving them the finger.
- Original Message -
From: Charlie Doremus
Thank you for your input, Nic. Much appreciated. :)
Sent from my iPod
On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:12 AM, Charlie Doremus giantdolp...@gmail.com
wrote:
I would also like to thank you, Nic, for saving my bacon. Like Anne
I was going to take issue with NFB and others who love to gripe for
the
Hi Rob,
Where did your friend get this info from? I would be interested to read this.
When was the law suit issued? Apple has always had some manner of accessibility
in their computers I believe with the Outspoken, Screen Reader formally made by
Alva. Only since 2005/6 though has Apple used
I played with it for an hour and a half. I was hooked. I just can't
get over the large screen. I also can't decide if I should get the
first generation, or wait. Engadget found a group of folk who tore
down the iPad, and revealed the inner holdings for a webcam, the same
as the iSight on
Although i've already posted on this, I just wanted to add that despite the
criticism that has been levelled at NFB - and rightly, they have commended
Apple's commitment to accesibility on the IPad.
TC
James, Lyn, Nash Twinny
On 15 Apr 2010, at 09:16, Rob wrote:
Thank you for your input, Nic.
I do believe it was September 2008. Again, thanks for clearing things
up. Much appreciated. :)
Sent from my iPod
On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:18 AM, James Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Hi Rob,
Where did your friend get this info from? I would be interested to
read this. When
I saw they did and was surprised, and happy, to see that.
Sent from my iPod
On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:22 AM, James Nash james.austin1...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Although i've already posted on this, I just wanted to add that
despite the criticism that has been levelled at NFB - and rightly,
Hi,
*grins* I just hate it when an organization always slams a company for reason
than to be threatened. Competition is a pain.
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:30 AM,
Hi,
That's alright. God, I feel better. It's one of those things I can keep going
on about and never stop.
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 9:31 AM, Rob Lambert wrote:
I
Hi,
Haha Charlie, nice signature.
Yeah, I thought someone had to. I took the plunge because I'm just fed up with
the crap.
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 10:12 AM,
Hi,
Yeah, it's easy to find. If you Google something like NFB lawsuit against
Apple or whatever, it's there. :)
And the GWMicro issue I was gonna get around to. It's kind of funny. At least
GW works with Apple instead of trying to give them improper input.
Regards,
Nic
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Hi Anne.
Thanks for your response.
I feel much better about purchasing the voices now.
Bryan
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From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010 5:39 PM
To:
Hi,
Regardless, I still think they're doing that to avoid the flaming they got for
their Mac article. It's amusing how they were suddenly in love with the iPhone.
I think that guy did a fair article, though, and it was very good.
Regards,
Nic
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Is laughing
We got early morning coffee drinkers I see, this list is really jumpin
- Original Message -
From: Rob rmlambert1...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
I saw they did and was surprised, and
Hi,
*grins* Sure do. I've got a coffee thermos next to me in my classroom. I'm
supposed to be diligently taking notes, but really, I'm writing blog posts,
tweeting, on seven messaging accounts, and browsing the web while taking notes.
That said, James has a point here. NFB did retract their
Speaking of support I wonder where I can send my bug fixes requests for
iPhone os 4.0
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From: Nicolai Svendsen chojiro1...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2010 4:47 AM
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Hi,
*grins* Sure do. I've
Man, I am so jealous. Canada won't get the IPad until the end of next month,
cry cry.
May and Wyn
On 2010-04-15, at 1:21 AM, Rob wrote:
I played with it for an hour and a half. I was hooked. I just can't get over
the large screen. I also can't decide if I should get the first generation,
I also want to thank Nick for his lengthy response, you said almost everything
I would have said. I think the confusion lies with the ITunes lawsuit. Apple
did have a few years without accessibility I believe. Outspoken was
discontinued and voice over was brought in and I believe this was due
Hi,
You are not the only one. Someone just send us iPads already. *smiles*
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:30 AM, May McDonald wrote:
Man, I am so jealous. Canada won't
I know, I know. in the same situation across the pond. I just can't wait to
touch one and bring one home to live with the mac, the nano and the IPhone. :)
what a happy little Apple family :)
On 15 Apr 2010, at 10:30, May McDonald wrote:
Man, I am so jealous. Canada won't get the IPad until
You'd think that, since Canada the U.S. are so close, that Apple would
treat them the same, regarding shipping schedules. It's possible you guys
will get the WiFi 3G models at the same time though, because we already
have the WiFi model in the states. We'll be getting the 3G model at the end
of
Not sure about Canada, but it's looking like the UK will get both 3G and wifi
at the same times. Three of our major networks stated yesterday that they will
be offering dedicated plans for the IPads at the end of May. *rubs hands
together* :)
It was the only good news I got yesterday lol :(
For other A T you can run boot camp or virtual windows to use them.
Sign,
Joe Plummer ( JP )
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-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anne Robertson
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 5:46 PM
To:
Who here thinks we'll see the Mac replacing PCs in AT training offices?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Joe Plummer joeplum...@tds.net wrote:
For other A T you can run boot camp or virtual windows to use them.
Sign,
Joe Plummer ( JP )
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-Original Message-
I'd very much doubt it Rob. I don't know what it's like in other countries,
but here in Ireland most of the trainers are actually sighted. Macs haven't
penetrated the mainstream userbase to the same extent as windows-based Pcs.
Consequently the level of knowledge among the trainers on the actual
I think it's happening slowly already. It is just a more cost effective
solution than windows computers with the price of a screenreader thrown in.
The transition will take a while because contracts need to be fulfilled and
such other things. Then we will see thee Mac more in schools,
I think the same is true here in the states, though it seems to be changing,
I think.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.comwrote:
I think it's happening slowly already. It is just a more cost effective
solution than windows computers with the price of a
Hi Donald,
I disagree. I think economics will come in to play in the next 3 to 5 years.
The cost of getting a Mac will justify it being looked into as a viable option
for agencies. There are more blind Mac users every day. I live in New York
City and got my first experience to a Mac at a
Ricardo I am delighted to hear that's the case, however here I can't see it
happening for quite some time. Only the techie people are using iPhones,
and even then it's happening by word-of-mouth. Blind people using the Mac
is almost unheard of over here.
Bring on the revolution! smile
_
My theory is this: The more Mac users, the better. It will drive the other
guys to come up with the same thing for their system, where you could walk
up to a Windows PC, and press a button, and it starts talking. Narrator
doesn't count. LOL
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:07 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick
Nic, just out of curiosity, what is the danish organisation for the blinds view
on Apple products?
I have a feeling, though i could be wrong, that the swedish blindness
organisation is a bit on the conservative side when it comes to the Apple
products, however i could be wrong.
/Krister
15
I'd be interested in knowing this as well. :)
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:11 AM, Krister Ekstrom
kris...@kristersplace.comwrote:
Nic, just out of curiosity, what is the danish organisation for the blinds
view on Apple products?
I have a feeling, though i could be wrong, that the swedish
I think it all depends on the user and their attitude too. An individual may
hear about macs on a podcast or know of another user with a mac who is also VI,
and take themselves off to the Apple store. In manchester, I know due to myself
and a few other VI customers, most of the staff in the
I agree. Only time will tell, of course. Who better to train people on their
products than Apple themselves? I haven't used it, but I do like their
one-to-one service, and my hope is they've set aside some staff that have
been trained in VoiceOver for us. If not, they should.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010
The RNIB seems to be ignoring apple. I'm currently working with their sister
company as the RNIB and action for the blind merged recently so RNIB carries
out the campaigning and such and action provides support. They didn't even know
the mac could talk. This saddens me as I know there are an
I know in my local store, there are two designated VO trainers and other staff
constantly tell me they have played with VO on varying products. I think where
there is a demand for it it will happen. Apple is extremely flexible. :)
On 15 Apr 2010, at 11:27, Rob Lambert wrote:
I agree. Only
That bugs me as well, and I'm not even from the UK.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:28 AM, marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.comwrote:
The RNIB seems to be ignoring apple. I'm currently working with their
sister company as the RNIB and action for the blind merged recently so RNIB
carries out the
That's what I love about Apple. :)
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:30 AM, marie Howarth marie.jane2...@gmail.comwrote:
I know in my local store, there are two designated VO trainers and other
staff constantly tell me they have played with VO on varying products. I
think where there is a demand for
Hi,
I think it has to start with agencies for the blind and the educational system.
As an adult it's easy enough to just get up and go to an apple store, or have
the money to pay for 1 on 1 training at said apple store. But a 12 year old
not so much. I think younger people must be exposed
Without the support of the blind organisations, most school systems, at least
here, wouldn't dream of venturing into something the blind organisation
wouldn't support.
On 15 Apr 2010, at 11:43, Ricardo Walker wrote:
Hi,
I think it has to start with agencies for the blind and the
Very valid point, Ricardo. I agree whole heartedly.
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi,
I think it has to start with agencies for the blind and the educational
system. As an adult it's easy enough to just get up and go to an apple
store, or have
I've just done a little scouting around. And I was wrong. RNIB actually have
offered training days for agencies, people with a VI and parents of children
who are have VI children. They also list the IPhone on their accessible phones
list. I guess the information has not filtered across to their
Very interesting that RNIB are offering those training days. I don't think
the NCBI (Irish equivalent) do. Referring back to a previous note on this
thread, you're quite correct that the guys at the Applestore in Manchester
are superb. I'm over there rather a lot for religious (sorry soccer!)
They are my local apple store and I love the guys in there! Just last Monday I
popped into play with a mac. I'm planning on getting a new macbook later this
year and was playing with the track pad in the store. Always so helpful and
friendly. :)
On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:12, Dónal Fitzpatrick
Hi all,
I intended to post this months ago and forgot. On a trip to the States back
in January I decided to take advantage of the excellent exchange rate and
buy a 13 MBP. I saved a fortune I assure you.
However, on returning home I discovered something I wasn't previously aware
of. The
That's interesting. When my mac came to the US with me, I had no issues of
this. my mac was set up on my friend's network in her home. Hmm, very
interesting.
On 15 Apr 2010, at 12:20, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
Hi all,
I intended to post this months ago and forgot. On a trip to the States
here's my take on it. 1) who cares, and 2 they started their accessibility
solution with tiger, and that came out in 2004 if memory serves correctly. That
would put their term ending 2007. snowy came out last august 2009 with a shiny
new improvement in voiceover 3 and the potential three year
Hi Marie,
It's not a problem going from Europe to the US, the problem occurs when
travelling the other way. The reason is that the range of channels which,
by law, we're allowed to broadcast on is greater in Europe. So for example,
if you have a router broadcasting on channel 13, a US Mac with
Rob, we like worms. because of the shift in availability of screen readers, and
a lot of them coming at no charge in the apple product line, this sort of thing
comes up more often than would be liked. Some of the people that would like to
keep their special status feel it necessary to make the
I'll just become ultra-synical here and say they love it when it doesn't
interfear with there long standing computer related screen reader interests,
but have been known in ast to praise something like the iphone for it's
independant operating-system based speech while saying it's a bad thing
I don't know, most work environments are anal regarding what they want in the
offices, I see apple taking a larger share, but the twirps who use windows
especially for dhcp serving love their products with the ferver that they claim
we do; and will contue to worship at the wishing well of
In my case 8t was like Marie said, I heard about it in a podcast, and was just
starting to shop for new equip. Right time righyt place, and access to fly one
for an hour to see were the tipping points.
On 2010-04-15, at 6:24 AM, marie Howarth wrote:
I think it all depends on the user and
Good news! I am so glad that people are waking up to apple!
Olivia
On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:02 AM, marie Howarth wrote:
I've just done a little scouting around. And I was wrong. RNIB actually have
offered training days for agencies, people with a VI and parents of children
who are have VI
Thanks for this information!
I may be taing a trip to London, so this is great to know! I continue to be
impressed with all the global support out there for voiceover, and the
increasing number of VO users world wide! This is great!
Olivia
On Apr 15, 2010, at 7:20 AM, Dónal Fitzpatrick wrote:
That's one of the things I love about apple. My hero, Steve Jobs, once said,
innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower and he is correct.
Interesting that you have two dedicated VO trainers in your apple store in the
UK. No one at my local store here in the US is a dedicated VO
I agree. I'd still stick with mac, but being able to push a button on a
windows machine would create some consumer choice, which is always a good thing
:)
On Apr 15, 2010, at 6:10 AM, Rob Lambert wrote:
My theory is this: The more Mac users, the better. It will drive the other
guys to come
I'm optomistic that this will slowly become the case as companies and agencies
gradually realize apple's full potential.
Olivia
On Apr 15, 2010, at 5:46 AM, Rob Lambert wrote:
Who here thinks we'll see the Mac replacing PCs in AT training offices?
On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 2:43 AM, Joe
I just wanted to agree with both of you here. I am certainly OK with Office,
though I haven't used it in a few years because I don't own a windows machine
and an outragiously priced screen reader. I achieve the same functionality
with my mac, and I hope that eventually, office for the mac
same thing for me too. I wanted a nano when I heard the accessibility was
available there. In order to run a nano however, I would need to update my
Screen reader. We all know the price range I was looking at and to boot I
needed a new laptop. So when I heard a podcast about the nano and
I agree. Apple truly does make productivity a pleasure!
Olivia
On Apr 15, 2010, at 4:47 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
Hi,
*grins* Sure do. I've got a coffee thermos next to me in my classroom. I'm
supposed to be diligently taking notes, but really, I'm writing blog posts,
tweeting, on seven
I'm glad they finally have woken up, though I honestly don't personally care
what they think. I love how the praise apple when it's convenient for them to
do so, though. I read an article about VO they wrote a while back which just
made my blood boil! I don't know if they've written an
LOL! that made me feel better. I don't subscribe to either blindness
organization, partly because I don't like their stance on apple, and partly
just because I don't personally feel that either reprisents me as a blind
individual.
Olivia
On Apr 15, 2010, at 4:14 AM, Cody wrote:
lol, that
This was a suitregarding iTunes, and I am sure that apple will keep up with
accessibility, because they truly are committed to making products work for
everyone! I'd also, personally, take anything the NFB says with a grain of
salt and agree with others that they feel threatened by apple
I know exactly what you mean Olivia. Luckily for me, I never was really
exposed to any of the blindness organisations and only dealing with one now to
get support for housing. I do have an employment advisor with them but if she
keeps telling me I should use windows, I will conveniently not
Ok, I think this will get the dumbest question of the year award but here goes.
I start my macBook Pro, and finder comes up. No matter what I do next, I
can't open the apps folder. I have tried choosing it with item chooser, typing
apps in, even bring up the doc with VO D. Sometimes it just
Hi,
Have you tried pressing command w and command q? After that try pressing
command shift A to open the applications window.
hth
On Apr 15, 2010, at 8:48 AM, Carolyn wrote:
Ok, I think this will get the dumbest question of the year award but here
goes. I start my macBook Pro, and finder
Hi,
Actually, if you take the price of a pretty decent, professional desktop or
laptop, then throw in a JAWS pro license which is $1095, you've got two
Macbooks, mostly, and then some.
I know a couple of agencies in Denmark that are experimenting with the Mac, and
they got an iPhone a little
Hi,
Not only that, but you are actually getting trainers from Apple. Well, trainers
who have trained themselves, then offer to train people in VoiceOver. Not
necessarily for Apple, but just as another viable option for the blind or
visually impaired.
I'm certain that, as agencies realize the
Hi,
Man, I was thinking of doing the same thing. The exchange rate is excellent,
and we pay a fortune just to get the Macbooks. Not the Pro ones, but just the
regular ones. I guess that plan is out of the question.
Regards,
Nic
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I just ordered one for Melanie yesterday. She saw an unboxing video and got
really excited. Looking forward to seeing it. I also ordered the keyboard dock,
case, and camera connection kit.
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 5:32 AM,
Yeah, I do to. That's why I was kind of bummed when I thought I couldn't use
that shortcut anymore. :)
Take care,
Donna
On Apr 15, 2010, at 1:34 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
I love the keyboard commander. it is way too cool and sometimes is faster
then the doc.
Take care.
On Apr 14, 2010, at
Not true. Voiceover went down long before the iTunes lawsuit settlement.
Moreover, the iTunes accessibility was probably in the works before said
settlement.
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 2:08 AM, Rob Lambert wrote:
I just got
Ah no Nick purchasing over there is not out of the question. I have to say
I've been using my US-purchased machine since January with no problems.
However, I can envisage a situation where I'm on a network which I don't
control and where I can't change the broadcast channel. Raising it is
Hi,
The lawsuit was not in 2004, but 2008 I believe. Perhaps 2009. The lawsuit had
nothing to do with it. That was only because they wanted to complain about
iTunes, just because they wanted to pretend that people shouldn't pay £41 for
jTunes. Which, personally, I think is an outrageous price
Hi,
Yes, you can already get iPads in the UK, actually. They can be imported. There
is a store over there that will take care of that.
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On Apr 15, 2010, at 11:38
I would agree with those taking issue with the NFB. It scares me that so many
organizations in the US take the NFB's word as speaking for the whole blind
population, (which the NFB loves to refer to as the blind. Unfortunately,
they are taking credit in some cases for their lawsuit making
Thanks Ricardo: I'll do this. Honestly, sometimes I fear I won't make sense
out of this mac which I sort of admire from afar until my little Dell dies and
forces me to learn.
Again, I thank you.
Carolyn
- Original Message -
From: Ricardo Walker
To:
Not I, As an access technology trainer I get to teach an increasing amount of
mac, and I know that there's a trend happening among educated consumeers. I
also know that most blind people aren't educated consumers. They are shut in
old people with no way to get information for themselves
Hello all:
I am relatively new to the mac and have a quick question. I notice in several
applications, Safari being one of these, there is a command in the view menu to
show and hide the status bar. However, when I show the status bar I cannot seem
to read this using any of the Voiceover
Really? That's interesting. However, I'm looking for a 3G model so will have to
wait until end of May anyway and I doubt the price is as cheap as what the
retail price will be here in the UK.
On 15 Apr 2010, at 14:23, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
Hi,
Yes, you can already get iPads in the UK,
Hi Doug,
vo--shift--M twice will bring up the status bar.
It holds such items as your clock, battery status if you are using a mac, and
for several apps such as time machine and bluetooth,
hth
On 15 Apr 2010, at 14:44, Doug Lawlor wrote:
Hello all:
I am relatively new to the mac and have a
Hi.
I'm sorry if I go a bit off-topic here, but here goes:
Denmark is a extremely small country, with only something like 5 million
people, which means we are only something like 3 blind or visualy impaired
people. That means we don't have something like NFB or other big organisasions
for
Hi Marie,
I know about the vo-shift-m twice command to read the status menu. I am talking
about something different here. To get an example of this go into Safari and
type command-slash and you should hear Vo either say Show status bar or Hide
status bar depending on it's current state. I am
I'm such a regular at my Apple store, (mostly while my twelve-year-old shops
elsewhere), that they apple team usually offers me a chair when I get in front
of one of their Macs.grin
Carolyn
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From: marie Howarth
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent:
Hey I just gotta chime in here. I live in Denver. I'm having difficulty
making the jump to my Mac. I've called everywhere I can in Denver, looking for
someone, anyone to give me the jump start/kick in the rear to really make this
move from PC to Mac happen. Guess who has offered the
That's great news Carolyn. Let us know how it goes for you. :)
On 15 Apr 2010, at 15:15, Carolyn wrote:
Hey I just gotta chime in here. I live in Denver. I'm having difficulty
making the jump to my Mac. I've called everywhere I can in Denver, looking
for someone, anyone to give me the
I think Apple will keep up with the accessibility after the three year term is
up.
NFB is all about suing companies just because they're not meeting up to their
standard of accessibility for the blind fast enough.
Sorry, but that's how I am feeling.
On Apr 15, 2010, at 2:08 AM, Rob Lambert
Hi how do you burn iso files?
Can i use disk utility to do it?
I see a button that says burn image.
Not sure i am new at the mac.
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While I don't blame people here for criticizing the NFB for its initially bad
review of Apple's Voice OVer, (a criticism with which I myself agree), I must
say quite frankly that I do not appreciate continued criticism of the NFB after
they've made a good effort in the December 2009 Braille,
Hi everyone,
I have a quick question if anyone could clear things up for me here. I am
having problems changing the bit rate in I-tunes. I would like to rip my CD's
at 320 KBPS but whenever I set that option i n I-tunes, the settings never take
effect after applying the changes. What am I
Hi,
I'm not trying to attack the NFB. But to me, I absolutely hate inaccuracy.
At least they let the rebuttal be posted. Hopefully, that has changed quite a
few things. That does not make me like that organization any better, though at
least, they finally, despite it taking half a year, stood
Hi,
Well, I must have missed this one, admittedly.
Quite nice. His attitude is much more positive, and it obviously shows he did
some research this time around. Saying that, finding help for the Mac isn't
that hard, really. It's all in the Mac help if you enter into the search box. I
have
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