apology and thanks to those who have helped me recently

2010-08-10 Thread kary johns
Hi guys, I just wan't to apologise for not replying or thanking the people who have answered my questions in the last couple of months, Some health issues that have come out of no ware have really thrown me for a loop. I've been checking my gmail account very rarely , and it's only a very quick

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Chris Moore
No, it seems to read past it. For example, if you are replying to an email and you just want to read up to the point where your cursor is, you can read line by line or paragraph, or hit VO a or B, but it does not stop at the cursor, it continues reading past it and starts reading the previous

Is there accessible software for creating ibooks

2010-08-10 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi all. Is there any accessible software for creating ibooks. I know that I can convert books with stanza. I often scan books myself, and when I will read them on my IPod with braille, I need to use ibooks, because of a problem with large paragraphs and braille. Ibooks is also a great format

RE: Virtual Box Verses Virtual VMWare

2010-08-10 Thread Simon Fogarty
Mike, Virtual box is not totally un useable. I use it daily and I have very few problems with it. Infact the only trouble I do have is the setting up of it's resources for any vm that I set up. But your righ tin that VM fusion is the better of the two products. I use that also and find it

Re: having mail issues with apple mail: my account won't go online at all

2010-08-10 Thread Scott Howell
Sarah, your inability to connect to the mail server on port 21 does not mean there is a problem with the server. Google I am sure blocks connections from Telnet. On Aug 9, 2010, at 10:00 PM, sarah alawami wrote: Ok. I found the issue on a google help forum but beeing unable to reply due to

Re: Amadeus Pro

2010-08-10 Thread Paul Erkens
Yes there is one on blind cool tech. - Original Message - From: louie louiem...@wavecable.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:28 AM Subject: Amadeus Pro Hi all, Is there a podcast on how to use Amadeus Pro? Thank you for any help. louie

Re: Is there accessible software for creating ibooks

2010-08-10 Thread Jonathan Chacón Barbero
hello, I develop a Finder service using Calibre libraries to convert RTF, txt and HTML files to ePub. I'l post it in my blog tomorrow because I'm testing it now El 10/08/2010, a las 10:35, Annie Skov Nielsen escribió: Hi all. Is there any accessible software for creating ibooks. I know

Re: NIKE+

2010-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Can someone tell me hat Niki plus is? I have a tread mill but it's all digital with a few buttons. Also there are menus so can't know how many miles I'm doing. Normally, I put some chordless headphones on as I can listen to stuff on my Mac or hook up my I phone to some speakers where the

Re: Quick Nav Spontaneously Activating

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
I have also experienced this occasionally, and I agree, Ricardo. It seems to happen when I'm trying to navigate very quickly. Cheers, Donna On Aug 9, 2010, at 11:39 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi Mark, I have experienced this from time to time as well. I'm not sure but, I think it happens

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have this same problem trying to read to the bottom of text. For example, when reading a long email, if I press VO-A, it will read the whole message,

Re: Quick Nav Spontaneously Activating

2010-08-10 Thread erik burggraaf
Yep, one of my clients had it too. Maybe we just have some really really super-sensative arrow key action going on. Best, Erik Burggraaf Check out my first ever podcast tutorial, Learn braille using the braille box. Visit http://www.erik-burggraaf.com and click podcasts to read more and

Re: Virtual Box Verses Virtual VMWare

2010-08-10 Thread Justin Thornton
hi could you please provide instructions on how to use virtual box after you get the os set up please thanks On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Mike, Virtual box is not totally un useable. I use it daily and I have very few problems with it. Infact the only trouble I do

Re: Is there accessible software for creating ibooks

2010-08-10 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi. That sounds great, if it is easy to use. I hope you will send a link to your block. Best regards Annie.On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:44 AM, Jonathan Chacón Barbero wrote: hello, I develop a Finder service using Calibre libraries to convert RTF, txt and HTML files to ePub. I'l post it in my

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Anne Robertson
Hello Donna, VO-a will read from current position to end in whatever kind of document or application as long as you are interacting with the document. You can make VO read from beginning to current position by highlighting from current position to beginning then pressing VO-F6 to read selected

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi donna, It does read from the point of the cursor. You just need to interact again. hth On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:35 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, I haven't followed this thread too closely, so first, my apologies if I'm bringing up something that has already been covered. But I have

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Oh, so that's the problem. Arg. You know, if the Apple genie would grant me just one wish, it would be that this whole interacting concept would just disappear. It just isn't natural! *grin* Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:12 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: Hi donna, It does read from the point of

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Thank you, Anne, I wasn't aware of the VO-F6 command. Sounds like I'd better take another look at the text commands. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:41 AM, Anne Robertson wrote: Hello Donna, VO-a will read from current position to end in whatever kind of document or application as

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
You know, for as much as I love the trackpad commander, it forces you to interact more than when using the keyboard. But when I first got my Mac, I think that might have been the hardest thing for me to learn. When it is necessary to interact and when not. On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:35 AM, Donna

Re: NIKE+

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: I use iTreadmill. It is accessible. On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:56 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Can someone tell me hat Niki plus is? I have a tread mill but it's all digital with a few buttons. Also there are menus so can't know how many miles I'm doing. Normally, I put some chordless

Re: Quick Nav Spontaneously Activating

2010-08-10 Thread focus
Hi all on this subject! I don't have a track pad, I have a blue tooth aluminium keyboard and I have had the same problem! Only a couple of time's though! Does anybody think this is a bug in the vo system? Focus Skype focus_66 On 10 Aug 2010, at 12:22, erik burggraaf wrote: Yep, one of my

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Ray Foret Jr
I found that if, after pressing return on a message, I interact twice with the message content, it will do exactly what you want to; read from the point of the curser down. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net

Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office

2010-08-10 Thread Rajiv Shah
Hi, Thanks for everyone's responses. Several folks had asked me to provide an example of a onMouseover or roll over event. See http://www.freedomscientific.com/training/Surfs-Up/MouseOver.htm On the left side of the page are images of JAWS, Magic and OpenBook. If the user rolls the mouse over

interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Ray Foret Jr
With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance thought the same thing at first; but then, she had a go with my Mac while she was down here visiting me; and, now, she really has taken to it. Now, she's not to the point of switching herself, but, she has now got the

Re: DVS Movies in itunes Store

2010-08-10 Thread focus
Hi all! I'm in the UK and like A.D. on the telly! I hope you get more content on yours! although some of the program choice's are a waist of the audio description! The money could be better spent! Also I do not know if this will help but all the films that I know of are AD not DVS! I do not know

Out of box, then what?

2010-08-10 Thread Geoff Waaler
Greetings y'all, I just received shipment notification for my 13 inch 2.4GHZ MacBookPro. BTW, thanks Brian for suggesting the refurbished store -- the model and warrantee were identical. I've been poking around Apple's site, and among other things found the voiceOver getting started

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Ray, I didn't say I don't like the Mac, quite the contrary. I just think that having to interact is annoying, and serves no real purpose. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:10 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: With respect, I cannot agree. My lovely constantly barefooted Fiance thought the same

Re: Out of box, then what?

2010-08-10 Thread focus
Hi Geoff! I do not know if anybody else will beat me to this! Or give you a better answer! But when I got my Imac all I had to do was plug it in and wait a little while and voice over started by itself! and took me through what I could do! hth focus Skype focus_66 On 10 Aug 2010, at 15:26, Geoff

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Ray Foret Jr
Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that you don't like the Mac, rather, I was addressing the concept of interaction. At first, it seemed foreign to Sarah, but, after she got in to my Mac, she saw the logic of it. Personally, I like the concept of interaction;

Re: Out of box, then what?

2010-08-10 Thread Peggy Fleischer
Hi Geoff, Getting your first Mac is very exciting. I remember wanting to know all I could about what to do when my macbook arrived. It's true, voiceover may start automatically but if it doesn't, you will probably have to press the fn key along with command f5. The fn is the bottom left

Re: Out of box, then what?

2010-08-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yup, You won't have to do anything special. In the unusual case your mac doesn't start talking when you turn it on, the command keys are directly to the left and right of the spacebar. The same place you would find the alt key on a PC keyboard. The prompts should help you set up everything

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Ray, Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly I've decided to interact with it, otherwise I would have just deleted the message. So, to then have to take the additional step of interacting, seems redundant, at least to me. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yeah, in mail the concept seems a bit redundant. Never thought about it till you said it. I like the interacting in other apps though. Like iTunes and Garageband. On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Ray, Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then

Re: Out of box, then what?

2010-08-10 Thread Esther
Hi Geoff, The keyboard on the MacBook Pro has exactly the same layout as your Apple Wireless Keyboard, and should feel pretty much the same (except for its laying flatter on the MacBook Pro surface). The Command key(s) are next to the space bar. If you want to check this on your

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Kimberly thurman
Interacting is the most difficult concept I have tried to convey to friends who have decided to get Macs. Some of them still don't get it. On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:28 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: You know, for as much as I love the trackpad commander, it forces you to interact more than when

Re: Anyone Using Scratch Live or DJ Software?

2010-08-10 Thread focus
Hi Kevin! I do not use this software but it sounds like it's got what you want! dj3 I do not know how vo friendly it is but you can download a 15 day free trial from [ sorry I do not know how to put in links yet! ] all lower case... djay-software.com So why not take a look, it might give you what

Spellchecking emails.

2010-08-10 Thread Geoff Waaler
Greetings, So as not to appear overly illiterate, I always run emails through a spell checker. I did not purchase Office, but noticed that SnowLeopard includes a dictionary. My question is whether the native MacOS supports spell checking? If not are there any recommendations for a product

Re: Spellchecking emails.

2010-08-10 Thread Kimberly thurman
Hi. Spellchecking is built into the Mac Os. Press VO M, VO right arrow over to edit, VO down arrow until you come to spelling and crammer, press enter and you will be presented with a menu of options such as to check while composing, check before sending, etc. hth On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:59

Re: Spellchecking emails.

2010-08-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi Geoff, Spell check on the Mac is built in to the operating system. You press command shift semicolen. On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:59 PM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings, So as not to appear overly illiterate, I always run emails through a spell checker. I did not purchase Office, but

Re: Spellchecking emails.

2010-08-10 Thread focus
Hi Geoff! I use the spellchecker all the time! Mine is set to check after I go to send the Email! So I type the message press send, command shift d, then the spellchecker kicks in, do my corrections then it sends it! just what is going to happen when i finish typing this!! :-] Focus Skype

Re: NIKE+

2010-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
OK. But what does this program do to help you get an accessible treadmill? On 10 Aug 2010, at 14:49, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: I use iTreadmill. It is accessible. On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:56 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: Can someone tell me hat Niki plus is? I have a tread mill but it's all

Re: Spellchecking emails.

2010-08-10 Thread Ray Foret Jr
for the answer to your question, yes, you can spell check using the Mac. To hear how to do this, and many other things, may I suggest: www.blindcooltech.com Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! A Very Proud and Happy Mac User!!! E-Mail: rforetjr at comcast dot net Skype Name:

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Of course, you can always set interaction to start semi-automagically when you press the tab key. That's in the VO utility under the navigation tab.. Teresa On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Ray, Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message, then clearly I've

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Orin
Yep, agreed there totally. That's what interaction was designed for. Orin orin8...@gmail.com Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/orinks Skype: orin1112 On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Donna, you read much too much in to what I said. I did not imply that you don't like the

Re: how to select from curser directly to the bottom of text

2010-08-10 Thread Chris Moore
I like being able to interact as you can skip around the screen quicker and only interact with the bits that are of interest to you. On 10 Aug 2010, at 17:31, Kimberly thurman wrote: Interacting is the most difficult concept I have tried to convey to friends who have decided to get Macs.

Re: Out of box, then what?For Geoff

2010-08-10 Thread Carolyn
Hi Geoff: I'm excited for you getting your Mac. I'll try to answer some of these. I thought I'd ask here for suggestions on what to do after I take it out of the box and plug it in. Ok, remove all packing materials first.grin The on button is top right. You'll get a musical

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: I borrowed a Mac before switching, and it took me about two days of just using it before I decided I could switch. You just have to keep an open mind, read the VO documentation, and just jump in. Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 10, 2010, at

Re: Out of box, then what?

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: Go to www.blindcooltech.com. Download all podcasts by Mike Arrigo. Go to www.myfirstmac.com and read the what to do when receiving my Mac articles. On Aug 10, 2010, at 9:26 AM, Geoff Waaler wrote: Greetings y'all, I just received shipment notification for my 13 inch 2.4GHZ MacBookPro.

Re: NIKE+

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: The program allows you to track millage, calories, time, etc. You have to have an accessible TM. BTW, I have the Nordicktrack A 2105 and it is accessible. On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:31 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: OK. But what does this program do to help you get an accessible treadmill? On 10

Re: NIKE+

2010-08-10 Thread Chris Moore
The application can connect to a sensor that you place in your sneakers, the sensor sends information back to your iPhone or iPod Touch/Nano, the information that is sent back is speed, distance, time, calories burnt etc, and you can either use the built in speech of the app or Voiceover, you

Re: having mail issues with apple mail: my account won't go online at all

2010-08-10 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually all of us and there were many on the help forum had this issue. At first the gmail smtp and imap servers were down meaning telnet could not find them.. I have the rss thread someware. lol! Take care. S On Aug 10, 2010, at 1:56 AM, Scott Howell wrote: Sarah, your inability to

Re: NIKE+

2010-08-10 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
OK, thanks. On 10 Aug 2010, at 20:50, Chris Moore wrote: The application can connect to a sensor that you place in your sneakers, the sensor sends information back to your iPhone or iPod Touch/Nano, the information that is sent back is speed, distance, time, calories burnt etc, and you can

More iPad questions

2010-08-10 Thread Jane
Today I went to the brand-new Apple Store in our city just to play with the iPad. I expect to bwe getting one in a couple of days, and of course I am s excited! I had some troubles, though. Once VoliceOver was turned on, it wasn't as easy as all that to do the double-taps for some reason

Re: Spellchecking emails.

2010-08-10 Thread Linda Adams
Hi, I've been intending to set the spellcheck in Mail and figured I'd go ahead and do it when I read this thread. When I went into the sub-menu the check before sending was dimmed. I expected a check-box that would be permanent.While this message was open, I went back to the same

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Sarah Alawami
exactly. I use dmine the next day for class notes even though I didn't know how to use vo that well. Worked like a charm. Sure I still get myself in to snags but we all will. good luck. S On Aug 10, 2010, at 12:21 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: I borrowed a Mac before switching, and it

Iphone plus apex 18 Pairing: what i found out...

2010-08-10 Thread Sonnia
Hello friends. As some of you know I've been having problems pairing my bn apex with my iphone 4. A tech support representative from Humanware informed me that the pairing currently works with the apex 32 cell notetaker. Compatibility with the apex 18 will come soon either in an update from

Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Pete Nalda
You could just type command+M. If you want to do it with VoiceOver, then VO+M then arrow over until you get to the Window menu, then arrow down once, and that puts you on maximize. On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:30 PM, Al Puzzuoli wrote: Hi all, Just wondering whether anyone can offer tips on how to

Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Command-m is minimize. There are various commands for zooming a window. Go to the Window menu and find the command there. In some cases, you can press command-option-z, but not all. The zoom option doesn't work quite the same as maximizing in Windows OS. It takes up more of the screen, but you

Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Sarah Alawami
Actually when I did it the only thing that was there was minimize even after pressing cmd plus m. Hmm odd? Take care. S On Aug 10, 2010, at 2:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: You could just type command+M. If you want to do it with VoiceOver, then VO+M then arrow over until you get to the Window

Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Chris Moore
You need to look for the zoom option, badly worded I know, On 10 Aug 2010, at 23:21, Al Puzzuoli wrote: Thanks for the reply. What's interesting though is I never see a maximize option in the Window menu. Even after I minimize a window and then command tab back to it, I can't seem to find

image instead of scroll area with text showing on some google groups' messages

2010-08-10 Thread Sarah Alawami
Hello to all. I think this is a downloading issue but I'm getting text scroll area image and no text for a while when trying to read some messages in mail. I run gmail off of a imap setting. I notice it is only with google groups' messages and Im on I think 3 or 4 of those groups. Can someone

Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Pete Nalda
Oh, crud! I'm so sorry, I miss read the menu! That's the problem when using magnification instead of speech. You are correct that Zoom is also in the window menu, under minimze. On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:39 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Command-m is minimize. There are various commands for

RE: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Al Puzzuoli
Hi Teresa, Thanks for this. So now, the trick will be to get my head around the way the zoom function works. Is a window just either zoomed or not zoomed? In other words, can zoom be clicked more than once to obtain different levels? Also, there is apparently a plus button in the upper left of

Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
I actually don't use fine reader express either, so I'm also basing things on what I have been told, oh yes, for scanning books, kurzweil 1000 works well, that's one of the very few things I still use windows for. I wish they would develop a mac version, but even if they did, I wonder if the

Re: Virtual Box Verses Virtual VMWare

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
For virtualization, vmware fusion is the best way to go, since virtual box and parallels are inaccessible, I've heard you can get a virtual machine going with parallels and launch it without sighted help, but if I can't do things like change settings, think I'll pass. On Aug 9, 2010, at 7:16

Spellcheck conquered

2010-08-10 Thread Linda Adams
Well, after checking the box and sending my former message, I sent myself a message with mis-spellings and it worked like a charm. I just needed more faith before bothering you guys. Linda -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To

Re: Quick Nav Spontaneously Activating

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
I've never had this happen, either using track pad commander on my macbook, or the num pad commander on my mac minis, interesting. On Aug 9, 2010, at 8:53 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: This happens to me also and I'm beginning to think there's some gesture on the trackpad doing it, as I use trackpad

7z files

2010-08-10 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I'm trying to get some information out of a *.exe window self- extracting archive file. Its author told me to download 7zs.zip for OS10, which I did; however, I can't seem to figure out how to unzip this file. What am I doing wrong here? Thanks. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype

Re: Virtual Box Verses Virtual VMWare

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
How did you get past the initial screens? When I opened virtual box, I could not read anything. On Aug 10, 2010, at 3:42 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote: Mike, Virtual box is not totally un useable. I use it daily and I have very few problems with it. Infact the only trouble I do have is the

Teaching Mac to sighted people

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: Now this is a switch. LOL. I've learned Windows from sighted people, so have been able to adapt from their POV; however I'm learning the Mac from a blindness perspective. I'm trying to show a sighted person my Mac, and since I don't really know what the screen looks like, we're having

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
You can get in to snags no matter what OS you are using. I wanted to borrow one because I wasn't comfortable dropping that kind of money on something that I wasn't sure would meet my needs. I've been a Mac user for almost 4 months, and am very happy.Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on

Re: Mac vs. Windows Accessibility was Re: Reopen office

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
Ok, I can get this to work, but voice over does not tell you that the item is a mouse over, actually I think using this is an example of bad web design, even if voice over did announce it, because you have to actually move the mouse itself to the link, putting the system focus on it is not

Re: Virtual Box Verses Virtual VMWare

2010-08-10 Thread Sarah Alawami
If you use a command line then it is fully accessibil but I'm not the one who is an expert on that. lol. I'm sure someone on this list can help you wiht that. S On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: How did you get past the initial screens? When I opened virtual box, I could not

Re: 7z files

2010-08-10 Thread Sarah Alawami
I think sarchiver will do it but not sure. I think with 7z you need to drag the file to be extracted. Good luck. S On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:17 PM, Mark BurningHawk Baxter wrote: I'm trying to get some information out of a *.exe window self-extracting archive file. Its author told me to

Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people

2010-08-10 Thread Teresa Cochran
Snow Leopard, The Missing Manual from OReilly publishers is an extremely good book. It describes in detail what the window controls look like and any keystrokes, if applicable, etc. I highly recommend it. Teresa On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: Now this is a switch.

Re: 7z files

2010-08-10 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I can highlight the file and choose Oebn with, and then 7z as the application, but I think 7z is trying to zip it up, not extract it; not sure how to tell it to unarchive this silly file... • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN:

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
This is a concept lots of people have a problem with, bt it's really not difficult, and you don't have to interact with everything. All it is really is focusing in on a particular item to examine it more closely. For example, if you come accross a tool bar, and you're interested in it, you can

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
You dn't have to interact with an email message to read it. Just move your voice over cursor to the text area, if you want to read it line by line, use the regular arrow keys. On Aug 10, 2010, at 10:23 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi Ray, Fair points. But, if I'm, say, reading an email message,

Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Bryan Jones
Al - There is a freeware utility named rightzoom that will change the behavior of the OSX zoom button/function to make it more closely mimic the Microsoft Windows maximize button/function. I use rightzoom because I personally prefer to have my current application window fill the screen

Re: Spellchecking emails.

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hi Jeff, you bet. Actually, the mac supports spell checking in any text area, even on web sites, it's system wide. In most applications, you can set whether spelling is checked as you type, personally I don't use this, but it's there if you want it. On Aug 10, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Geoff Waaler

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
This is probably one of the primary differences between voice over and the windows screen readers. Voice over does not assume you want certain things spoken. Does this mean you do a bit more navigation on the mac than you do in Windows? Perhaps, but it leaves decisions up to the user which is

Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hi, to do this, press VO tilda, that's the accent key shifted. Voice over will say window resize menu, and you will have 2 options, horizontal or vertical. Select each one, and press the right arrow or dwn arrow key as appropriate for a few seconds, this will maximize the window in both

Re: Insuring Windows are Maximized with VO?

2010-08-10 Thread Mike Arrigo
Actually, command m minimized a window, there is an option in the window menu that seems to do this though, it's called zoom. On Aug 10, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Pete Nalda wrote: You could just type command+M. If you want to do it with VoiceOver, then VO+M then arrow over until you get to the

Re: Spellchecking emails.

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: I love to be able to spellcheck in any edit field system wide. I can't spell worth a flip. LOL Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:48 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: Hi Jeff, you bet. Actually, the mac supports spell checking in any text

Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Thanks!! Sarai Bucciarelli Personal Come join me on www.swagbucks.com/refer/sdbuccia On Aug 10, 2010, at 7:37 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: Snow Leopard, The Missing Manual from OReilly publishers is an extremely good book. It describes in detail what the window controls look like and any

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Mike, I don't have a problem with it, I just don't agree with it. Cheers, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:40 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: This is a concept lots of people have a problem with, bt it's really not difficult, and you don't have to interact with everything. All it is really is focusing in

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Mike, I realize this. But, if you want to activate a link or have the cursor read to end of message, you do have to interact with it, twice, no less. All I'm saying is that this is redundant. Best, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:44 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: You dn't have to interact with an

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, the same thing can be accomplished when not interacting with the table, simply by arrowing down once you've heard the info you wanted. Best, Donna On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:46 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: I like the interacting in mail, because it prevents me from having to listen to all of the

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Sarai Bucciarelli
Hi: Actually, you don't. Do what Mike said, once you see an email you want to read, press vo j and you'll be in the message area. Press vo a and you can read the entire message, or use your arrows to read line by line. Once you are done, press vo j to jump back to the message list. HTH,

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread AndyBaracco
Sarai, Which software do you use on the mac for word processing? Andy - Original Message - From: Sarai Bucciarelli bucc7...@bellsouth.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 5:31 PM Subject: Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac You can

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Sarah Alawami
I explain this on my youtube vid actually at http://marrie125. think of like a box. To find out what is in it open or interact with it. If you have no interest in the christmas gift or box skip it. S On Aug 10, 2010, at 5:40 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote: This is a concept lots of people have a

Re: interaction and getting one's teeth in to the Mac

2010-08-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
This is not true,. You can not activate a link without interacting twice with the message, as well as continue reading from the position of the cursor. On Aug 11, 2010, at 12:43 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: No you don't. Just focus on it and hit vo space. That's it. S On Aug 10, 2010, at

Re: Teaching Mac to sighted people

2010-08-10 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, If you have a magic trackpad or a macbook, you can use trackpad commander to know where things are on the screen. You can also have the voiceover cursor highlighted so sighted people can see where you are on the screen On Aug 10, 2010, at 8:27 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: Hi: Now this