EPISODE: Talking About iOS With VoiceOver Part 1, The Podcast

2011-07-20 Thread M. Taylor
Hello All, The following is an edited version of the most recent episode of The Secret Life of Mark Marcus Live in which I discussed using Apple iOS devices with VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind and low vision, published as an approximately 27 minute Candle

Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I dono that I'd trust that though. I'm going more with what Ricardo said, simply for the reason, lookat. Maybe mac rumors is a good site over-all, but let's face the reality of something. they saidIOS 4 would be released on x date, did it happen, no. they said Lion would be released on the

Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I plan to do a podcast, don't fret. Chris. - Original Message - From: Georges Zaynoun humorlessg...@samobile.net To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:27 PM Subject: Re: Lion being released tomorrow july 20th How does one do to download it from the mac

Re: right clicking?

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
vo+shift+M, or if nothing else, route your mose with command+vo+F5, then hold your control key down whilst literally clicking the physical mouse, provided track pad commander isn't on. Chris. - Original Message - From: KliphSharrie To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent:

Re: Sephari Bookmarks Question.

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What's the difference in a book mark folder, vs. a book mark collection? I asked this back when, but never got an answer that I could see. Chris. - Original Message - From: Phantom.Vader phantom.va...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:05

Re: itunes billing question

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Chad, Let me guess. You're trying to do this in windows correct? I say this as I've had to do the same and on the windows version of ITunes it didn't work worth a crap! Parden the language. I had it work perfectly though on the mac side of things. Chris. - Original Message -

Re: EPISODE: Talking About iOS With VoiceOver Part 1, The Podcast

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
What was the name again of your podcast. I know it was the candle something or another... Chris. - Original Message - From: M. Taylor To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:11 AM Subject: EPISODE: Talking About iOS With VoiceOver Part 1, The

Re: itunes billing question

2011-07-20 Thread chad baker
hi chris no i'm on the mac side i signed into my account can't find where to find my balance all my credit info is right it said invalid security code its the right one i had a sighted person check the card for me to make sure i was entering the right code i e mailed apple support thanks On Jul

Re: itunes billing question

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Well, let's see... So, if you go to the store menu with vo+M, then vo+right arrow over to it, if you then go down to view my account, you should then get an html web area content area you can interact with, and your balance should be in there. If nothing else, it should show your balance as

Re: itunes billing question

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi, When in the iTunes store just search for the account link with the item chooser or the web rotor. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:40 AM, chad baker wrote: hi chris no i'm on the mac side i signed

Re: [M-A] Lion being released tomorrow july 20th

2011-07-20 Thread Ricardo Walker
Yeah. The iPad made them an absolute killing this quarter. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, AIM: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Jul 19, 2011, at 6:26 PM, Scott Granados wrote: Did you notice what else they announced. Holy sh*t they made some money this quarter!

Re: itunes billing question

2011-07-20 Thread chad baker
hi chris i have a balance i need to pay apple off its strange never had this problem before it worked fine in previous versions of itunes i interacted with the html contenet i seen a bunch of stuff like edit payment info and purchase history i went to purchase istory didn't see nothing i'll keep

Look Tell Money Reader for iPhone

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, Excuse the cross-post, but I thought some on bothof these lists would be interested. When I downloaded an update for the LookTell money reader this morning, they said that the price will be going up. so, if anyone wants it and hasn't purchased it, now would be the time to do so.

lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Brandon Misch
Hey guys i just looked at the app store and lion is now out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread James Malone
Yep, sure is! A lot sooner than I would have thought. On 7/20/11, Brandon Misch bmisch2...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys i just looked at the app store and lion is now out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group,

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread David Hole
Hi. Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just the servers that can't handle the pressure... -David On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 15:06, James Malone james.9...@gmail.com wrote: Yep, sure is! A lot sooner than I would have thought. On 7/20/11, Brandon Misch

RE: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi all, I'm currently in the process of installing Lion, and will write back with a more detailed list of things I like/dislike, and bugs. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Hole Sent: Wednesday, July 20,

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Brandon Misch
still am downloading it. 70 something percent now. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi. Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just the servers that can't handle the pressure... -David On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 15:06, James Malone james.9...@gmail.com

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Ronald McEwan
How does one know how far they are along in the download? In the Journey, Ron On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: still am downloading it. 70 something percent now. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi. Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :(

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
How do you get a progress bar when it's downloading? I found the entry in the dock, and it simply says OS X Lion, downloading. Teresa On Jul 20, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Brandon Misch wrote: still am downloading it. 70 something percent now. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi.

RE: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, If you go to your purchase section, it will be in that table under status. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 8:58 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject:

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
Thanks for that. Teresa On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:00 AM, Daniel Miller wrote: Hi, If you go to your purchase section, it will be in that table under status. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread David Hole
Hi. Now I'm also downloading :) But where can I see how far the download has gone? On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 16:00, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If you go to your purchase section, it will be in that table under status. -Original Message- From:

[Mac-cessibility News] Lion is now out on the app store.

2011-07-20 Thread Maccessibility
Lion is now out on the app store. This morning Apple released Mac Os 10.7 lion in the mac app store. The cost is $29.95. You must be running the latest version of snow leopard to purchase and download this new OS. Stay tuned to this site for more reviews of the new accessibility features in

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Shen
Anyone know where it is downloading to? Can't find it anywhere at the moment. On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:03 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi. Now I'm also downloading :) But where can I see how far the download has gone? On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 16:00, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, If

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Matthew Alvernaz
I'm downloading it, but the download seems to be going very slowly for some reason. probably servers going crazy, but what can you do. On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Shen wrote: Anyone know where it is downloading to? Can't find it anywhere at the moment. On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:03 AM, David

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, It downloads to the Applications folder, and will begin installing once it finishes. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 8:36 AM, Shen wrote: Anyone know where it is downloading to? Can't find it anywhere at the moment. On Jul 20, 2011, at 7:03 AM, David Hole wrote: Hi. Now I'm also

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Doug Lawlor
Hi Zack, I have downloaded the installer and it ran automatically after the download finished. The problem is I'm not sure where the installer downloaded to either. I looked in the Applications folder but found nothing that would look like the Mac OS10 installer. I wanted to burn a DVD but

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Doug, Sadly, the fact is that you need to copy the installer to another location if you want to make a DVD. Yes, your machine is quite close to being done. Yours, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote: Hi Zack, I have downloaded the installer and it ran automatically after

I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
hi, all, Just a word before you install an upgrade: make sure you are aware that speech will stop once you restart the -puter and won't restart till the VO updates are installed. For me, this took about forty-five minutes, then the -puter restarted again and VO came up speaking in the login

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread David Taylor
Replying from Lion. All is well so far. Cheers Dave On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:12, David Hole wrote: Hi. Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just the servers that can't handle the pressure... -David On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 15:06, James Malone james.9...@gmail.com

RE: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Jeff Bishop
During the install you can turn VO back on and have a full talking installation just like you do on first install. It rocks! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Teresa Cochran Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:17

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Shannon Dyer
So, are you saying that apple mail will need to be reset? Will messages be lost during the upgrade? Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until three for the Eclectic Collection: a Celebration of Women In Music. Point your media player to:

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi SHannon, When I upgraded, my messages were not lost. They are in IMAP folders, so that might have something to do with it, but I doubt it. Apple wouldn't force you to lose messages that way. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Shannon Dyer wrote: So, are you saying that apple mail

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Doug Lawlor
I've got it up and running here as well. I like the fact that when interacting with a message table in Mail you get much more information when up and down arrowing. Doug On 2011-07-20, at 1:37 PM, David Taylor wrote: Replying from Lion. All is well so far. Cheers Dave On 20 Jul 2011,

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Doug Lawlor
The problem was I couldn't find the installer in the Applications folder. Doug On 2011-07-20, at 1:45 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Doug, Sadly, the fact is that you need to copy the installer to another location if you want to make a DVD. Yes, your machine is quite close to being done.

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Brandon Misch
same here except i can't get the new voices to download. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, David Taylor wrote: Replying from Lion. All is well so far. Cheers Dave On 20 Jul 2011, at 14:12, David Hole wrote: Hi. Just tried to buy, but it's got unavailable :( Hopefully it's just the

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Brandon, The voices download from within VoiceOver Utility, on the speech tab. THe way to do this is to find the default voice popup button and select it, then find the customize item and select that. From there, you have a table of checkboxes which you can click to select individual

What is this Lion and should I heard of it? hahaha

2011-07-20 Thread Red.Falcon
Hi All! Well I'll join those of you who have Lion as soon as finances allow! So looking forward to peoples views! And because I'll have to wait I'll also here about problems! But I really hope all you who get it a good experience and some fun as well! Colin -- You received this message because

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Doug, I'm afraid you need to copy the installer out from the Applications folder before using it, as it self-destructs after use. You can quit it when it begins in order to do this, since you already have Lion up and running. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Doug Lawlor wrote:

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread David Taylor
It said they weren't there when I first tried, but they are now! On 20 Jul 2011, at 17:27, Brandon Misch wrote: same here except i can't get the new voices to download. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:07 PM, David Taylor wrote: Replying from Lion. All is well so far. Cheers Dave On 20 Jul

VO Profile Export/Import Location

2011-07-20 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Listers, It has been some time since my Voice Over acted up. But it just happened. I would like to import my VO settings from the backup I exported. Only thing is I can't for the life of me remember where I go to import and export the VO settings! I looked in the places I

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread KliphSharrie
After lion finish s downloading, how do you stop it from installing so you can burn it to a DVD? And where would you find it? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 11:54 AM, Zachary Kline

trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, So I went to the app store, clicked to purchase Lion, and clicked Confirm Purchase. It now says Installing Lion, but nothing else is happening. The downloads folder hasn't opened, and I'm still on the page with the info about Lion. It's been like this for about five minutes. Is

RE: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, Go to the purchased section of the mac app store. Once there, you'll see the progress of the Lion download, since the file is quite large. It will take quite a bit of time to download. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]

never mind last

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
I went and checked for unfinished downloads and it says it's downloading. I would have thought that the downloads folder would have opened. But I'll assume all is well. Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dona, Yes, this is the what happens. You can monitor the progress of the download via the purchases button in the toolbar. Also, the installer will open automatically when the download finishes. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:20 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, So I went to the app

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread KliphSharrie
Yes, my wife said she saw nothing in terms of a progress bar either, so i assume it will let us know when it's done. I hope so, because I want to do a clean install. Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On

Re: What is this Lion and should I heard of it? hahaha

2011-07-20 Thread Mark BurningHawk Baxter
I, too, shall be waiting a fortnight before upgrading the kitty, as finances dictate I take a hurry up and wait posture. I'm watching this thread with interest. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: •

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Mary Otten
I haven't downloaded Lion yet. I hope there is a way to make mail act like it did in SL with respect to how much you hear when arrowing through the messages table. I want only the subject line. The rest is so much unwanted chat from my point of view, slowing the speed with which one can move

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
I did notice that Alex seems a little better. So far, I've not seen much, but I do love what I have seen. Chris. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: hi, all, Just a word before you install an upgrade: make sure you are aware that speech will stop once you restart the

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Brandon Misch
hey thanks. anyway to get rid of the voices you didn't want or just wanting to just get rid of them? thanks. On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:54 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Brandon, The voices download from within VoiceOver Utility, on the speech tab. THe way to do this is to find the default

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Zackery, You're exactly correct. It doesn't matter. I have my gmail set via pop3, and so do I with my RoadRunner, and in both cases, it is fine. I wish that Alex was a little bit more responsive with typing key echo, but aside that… one thing I do wonder is in Mail, how do you turn the

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread KliphSharrie
Mine already does that, the one thing I did is turn off the preview pain, also told mail in preferences how much info I wanted to know. HTH Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:28 PM,

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Mary, Indeed it is. There is an option to use the classic layout, more or less identical to the SL way of doing things. This is in the View tab of Mail preferences. You can use VO to read only subject lines in the same way you do now. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Mary Otten

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
Has anyone yet been able to figure out where in the heck the app store actually puts the installer for Lion? What if I wanted to back the installer up on a dvd? Is the installer not a .app file etc? Chris On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Dona, Yes, this is the what

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Chris, THe installer is put in the Applications folder, but after it is used to install the system it self-destructs. To prevent this you can quit it initially with cmd-q, and you'll find it in there. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Has anyone yet

Re: question about lion and mail

2011-07-20 Thread Shannon Dyer
I have mine set up in IMap folders as well. But, when Lion is installed, will I have to reconfigure the mail app? This will be my first time switching from one Os to another, so I'm not clear exactly what will happen. Shannon Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from

RE: question about lion and mail

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Shannon, No, everything will remain configured when you get Lion installed. The only thing you may have to do is click a Continue button to let it perform a small upgrade to your folders. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey all. I'd like to share my impressions of this wonderful OS as well. I like the new voices, including Samantha. Yes, you heard me, I like the Samantha voice very much. And I like that I can use it the same way I used Snow Leopard. I thought that I'd have to reply on the track pad for

What can I do if Lion install fails?

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi all, My Lion install appears to have failed. I tried to initialize VO, since an earlier message said that you could do this. When I did, I was taken into the VO utilities area, and the only way I could exit it was to restart. So I did. After a couple of go-rounds with this, my Mac

RE: What can I do if Lion install fails?

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Donna, Go into your applications folder, and rerun the lion installer again. This should fix the problem and allow you to try to install. I hope this helps! -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent:

Re: What can I do if Lion install fails?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dona, I'm not sure what is happening in your case. I didn't have an install failure, and in fact the whole process was quite seamless. I'd recommend trying again, after perhaps restoring to a known good backup of 10.6.8 if you have one, just to be sure. All I did when installing was click

dropbox and lyon

2011-07-20 Thread louie
Has any of you that has installed lyon found any change in how you get to the dropbox menu? Tanks louie louiem...@wavecable.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Courtney Curran
Hi, I can add to this about the vo 45 minute update, you can press command f5, and you'll get the Fred voice which then you can see your install and update progress. HTH, Courtney On Jul 20, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: hi, all, Just a word before you install an upgrade: make

Re: lion is now on the app store

2011-07-20 Thread Andre Nuno Soares
Hello all, For those who want to know more about Lion before jumping in, check John Siracusa's totally thorough review on ArsTechnica: http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2011/07/mac-os-x-10-7.ars Obviously, it's from a sighted person's point of view, but still very interesting. Cheers,

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Teresa Cochran
Hi, all, i'd like !thank you guys for pointing out that VO can be used during the install. I jumped the gun, and I didn't want to cause usndue alarm. Thanks, Teresa Courtney Curran wrote: Hi, I can add to this about the vo 45 minute update, you can press command f5, and you'll get the

Re: What can I do if Lion install fails?

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Daniel, thanks. I also saw Zack's message, so I'm pleased to report that I'm up and running in Lion, and so far all is well. Not sure yet what I think about the new mail, but I think I'll give myself some time to get used to it before passing judgment. :) Love having the voices for

A note about setting the preview pane in Mail.

2011-07-20 Thread Dan
Hello list, It is now really easy to set the preview pane. All you have to do is to interact with the horizontal bar just to the right of the message content table and up arrow till you 0 it out. Then stop interacting. No more need to click to set it. Hope this helps someone. Dan -- You

Re: What can I do if Lion install fails?

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Wow, that's really bizarre. I didn't try starting VO the second time around, given my results the first time. :) Anyway, all's well that ends well. I'm back up, and everything looks good. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Dona, I'm not sure what is happening

safari question in lion

2011-07-20 Thread chad baker
hi does anyone know where the download progress is in safari when downloading something can't find it thanks -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe

Re: safari question in lion

2011-07-20 Thread John Panarese
When you are downloading something, you need to stop interacting with the html area. You find find a downloads button. There might be a keyboard shortcut as well, but I am not sure. Take Care John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:53 PM, chad baker wrote: hi does

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Ronald McEwan
VO+home and VO+end will do that. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Well, I'm sad to say that the Option Down arrow command that used to move you to the top and bottom of the message list is now gone. (sigh) Best, Donna -- You received

Re: safari question in lion

2011-07-20 Thread Anne Robertson
To get to the downloads in Safari, go to the Google search box with Cmd-Option-f then VO-Right arrow once and you're on the Downloads button. Cheers, Anne On 20 Jul 2011, at 21:53, chad baker wrote: hi does anyone know where the download progress is in safari when downloading something

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Tammy
What’s the best way to get to the aps folder? It’s in the doc but it appears you can’t get there via that shortcut. \Tammy From: Zachary Kline Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:41 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: trying to download lion? Hi Chris, THe installer is put in

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Marc Workman
VO home/end is not working for me. I've tried interacting in various ways, but all that happens when I press VO home/end is that focus is moved by a few messages. If I keep pressing VO home/end, focus stays on that message, yet if I move up or down once, and then press VO home/end, it again

RE: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Tammy, Go to the finder, and press CMD+Shift+A. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tammy Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 3:30 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: trying to download lion? What's the best way to

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi, Try cmd-shift-a from the desktop, that works well enough. You can actually get to the folder from the dock too, but its' a bit complicated. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:29 PM, Tammy wrote: What’s the best way to get to the aps folder? It’s in the doc but it appears you can’t get

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread Tammy
Hi, Oh thank you so much! Tammy From: Daniel Miller Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:32 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: trying to download lion? Tammy, Go to the finder, and press CMD+Shift+A. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com

Re: trying to download lion?

2011-07-20 Thread carolyn Haas
Tammy: Cmd-shift-A will get you to the applications folder. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Tammy wrote: What’s the best way to get to the aps folder? It’s in the doc but it appears you can’t get there via that shortcut. \Tammy From: Zachary Kline Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 1:41

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Yes, but that requires pressing fifty gazillion keys. I don't have that many fingers. Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:01 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote: VO+home and VO+end will do that. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Hi all, Well, I'm sad to

Re: one bad thing I've found in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Ronald McEwan
Sorry that should be vo+shift+home and vo+shift+end. In the Journey, Ron On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:32 PM, Marc Workman wrote: VO home/end is not working for me. I've tried interacting in various ways, but all that happens when I press VO home/end is that focus is moved by a few messages.

one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
VO has also stopped reading the message status. Anyone else noticed this? Best, Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send

Lion, Voice Over and Adium

2011-07-20 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hey all. I just found another glitch. When using Voice Over in Lion, if you're using one of the Nuance voices and you have Adium events spoken aloud to you, prepare to not receive them. But if you're using Alex, then you have nothing to fear. I hope this gets fixed soon. Shawn -- You

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi DOnna, Can you clarify this a bit? I see unread and read message status just fine, though the status does change because of the way I have my preview pane set up. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:47 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: VO has also stopped reading the message status. Anyone else

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Well, I took the preview pane down to zero as was described earlier. Basically, I hear all the usual message info except the status information. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:45 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi DOnna, Can you clarify this a bit? I see unread and read message status just

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi Dona, How are you moving between messages? I'm using the arrow keys alone, without the VO keys. a bit more verbose, but it isn't too bad. Similarly, I don't interact with the list. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 1:52 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Well, I took the preview pane down to zero as

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Hi Zack, I'm doing the same thing you are. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:50 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi Dona, How are you moving between messages? I'm using the arrow keys alone, without the VO keys. a bit more verbose, but it isn't too bad. Similarly, I don't interact with the

Re: safari question in lion

2011-07-20 Thread Kimberly thurman
Doesn't command/option/L while in Safari to get to the downloads list work in Lion? I haven't updated yet. I'm taking the wait and see approach. :) On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:05 PM, Anne Robertson wrote: To get to the downloads in Safari, go to the Google search box with Cmd-Option-f then

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi DOnna, Very odd. WHen you say status are we talking about the same thing? For instance, when I view this conversation if it's closed and there are unread messages I hear unread before opening it. You might want to switch to the classic layout, which is more or less identical to the way

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
Just did that. And still no status is spoken. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi DOnna, Very odd. WHen you say status are we talking about the same thing? For instance, when I view this conversation if it's closed and there are unread messages I hear unread

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Hi DOnna, I'm puzzled. I hear status just fine, whether unread or replied. I don't have any idea why you shouldn't. What do you hear with a closed conversation that has unread messages? Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:04 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: Just did that. And still no status is

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread KliphSharrie
I only seen about 4 choices for voices. Is there another place to go to get more? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:43 PM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: I have installed Lion here and am

Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
How do you do the new drag and drop feature? Chris. - Original Message - From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 3:43 PM Subject: Re: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions I have installed Lion here and am

RE: I Have Lion Running; My Impressions

2011-07-20 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi, There's a customize button at the bottom of that popup menu. That's where you get the other voices. Be aware, though, that they're quite large to download. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of KliphSharrie

Re: safari question in lion

2011-07-20 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
oh, so they did away with the downloads window popping up in a second window? Chris. - Original Message - From: John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 4:00 PM Subject: Re: safari question in lion When you are

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Donna Goodin
I'm not viewing by conversation. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi DOnna, I'm puzzled. I hear status just fine, whether unread or replied. I don't have any idea why you shouldn't. What do you hear with a closed conversation that has unread messages?

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread Zachary Kline
Odd. Even when I don't view by conversation I still hear replied statuses when arrowing up and down. I imagine I'd hear unread as well. Best, Zack. On Jul 20, 2011, at 2:16 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: I'm not viewing by conversation. Best, Donna On Jul 20, 2011, at 5:03 PM, Zachary Kline

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread KliphSharrie
There is also a view messages by menu right next to the message list. So if you open this menu, you can check the categories that you want voice over to announce Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul

Re: one more bad thing in mail

2011-07-20 Thread KliphSharrie
Where do you adjust the conversation or thread view? Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac On Jul 20, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Zachary Kline wrote: Hi DOnna, Very odd. WHen you say status are we talking about the

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