That's what I have too: a 2011 13 inch macbook pro. I'm not sure if the battery
life being cut in half is related or not, but
I've also noticed my macbook running a lot warmer than it ever did under sl.
I'm wondering if it's time to call apple and/or
take my macbook into a store. Obviously,
Have you Repaired the permissions. It is a good practice after a major upgrade
such as this. I have the 15 inch I7 version and am not seeing battery life
problems such as you've mentioned.
Later…
On 2011-07-22, at 1:28 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
That's what I have too: a 2011 13 inch macbook
Aha! Thanks, guys! I'll definitely give this a try and post on my progress.
Teresa
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Shen wrote:
Teresa,
Yes, you did miss a couple of steps. Here is what I did.
1. You were right about finding the InstallMacLion.app open the shortcut
menu and click show package
Hi Missy,
If it's that noticeable I would seriously consider taking it in. Do you have
an Applecare plan? If so, take advantage of it. If not, I'd still take it in,
this is the kind of thing that can drive you nuts if you don't take care of it.
Good luck,
Zack.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:28 PM,
Repaired the permissions? I don't even know what that means. How is it done?
I'll gladly give it a try if you think it would
help at all.
-Original Message-
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn
Sent: Friday, July 22,
Nope, but I think I'm still eligible to buy the apple care plan. I was just
hoping to wait until I had a job, but I'd rather
have apple care before I investigate this too much further. It's just really
distressing since there was absolutely nothing
wrong with my system prior to lion. I'm really
Hi:
I have discovered that all the items in the view menu in finder are dimmed. I
can't change to column view or do the command to show the status bar as was
suggested in the discussion about showing hard drive space remaining. If any
one knows how I might fix this I'd sure appreciate it.
It's worth noting that you can switch activities quickly by either 1)
bringing up a list of activities with VO X, or 2) automatically switching
back and forth between activities with VO XX.
So it won't automatically detect languages and switch, but the introduction
of activities does make
To repair the permissions, do the following:
1. Go to the Finder, VO-shift-d for Desktop will do.
2. Press cmd-shift-u to take you to the Utilities folder.
3. Navigate to the Disk Utility app, and open it.
4. Interact with the Select a Disk table.
5. Select the Macintosh HD volume.
6. Stop
I've been told not, but I guess I should look.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Krister Ekstrom kris...@kristersplace.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 8:29 AM
Subject: Re: OS X Lion and VoiceOver issues
Hey,
Pardon my utter stupidity, but can't
Taking It To The Streets On Your Apple iOS Device
There's a new iOS App in town that is literally taking those using
VoiceOver, Apple's software screen reading solution for the blind and low
vision, to the streets in a whole new way; and it's called Ariadne GPS.
Among other ground-breaking
Amen! Scott! I couldn't agree with you more. that comment was really not
fair to Apple. I can't say if they're really trying or not, but let's at
least give the benefit of a doubt that they are.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Scott Howell scottn3...@gmail.com
To:
Hi all,
Previously, when I wanted to find a message from a specific person, I could
just type the first couple of letters of their name and I would be taken to a
message from that sender. This no longer works on my machine. Can someone
confirm?
Thanks,
Donna
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Hi Missy,
As a note, I repaired permissions in mostly the way TIm describes, except for
first booting into the recovery partition just to be safe. I wanted to make
sure the OS wasn't being used in any way which might prevent repairs. That can
be done by holding cmd-r as the machine reboots.
that did it! thanks so much I am not sure I ever would have found it.
On Jul 21, 2011, at 11:06 PM, M. Taylor wrote:
Hello Again, Craig:
We've come a long way since Mobile Speak, eh? (Smile)
Keep in mind that gMail uses Labels instead of Folders. Effectively, they
are the same. So
Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though.
Best,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi Donna,
THis isn't really a VoiceOver feature but a Mail one, and no, it doesn't seem
to work under the new layout at least. There is always the official search
box in
So why haven't you gone back to the classic view of mail?
In the Journey,
Ron
On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though.
Best,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:10 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi Donna,
THis isn't really a
Hi all,
In case anyone is interested, typing the first letter of a recipient's name
does work if you switch to classic view. Also, if you switch to classic view,
when you go into your sent folder, you're placed at the bottom, rather than the
top of the message list. Since we know longer have
Just did.
Donna
On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:46 PM, Ronald McEwan wrote:
So why haven't you gone back to the classic view of mail?
In the Journey,
Ron
On Jul 22, 2011, at 2:31 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
Yeah, but that's a lot more cumbersome. thanks, though.
Best,
Donna
On Jul
Hello Missy,
I wanted to mention that if your MacBook is indeed a 2011 model, then it might
still be covered under Apple's standard warranty. You can get details of your
Mac's warranty status by taking the following steps:
1. In the Apple Menu select About This Mac.
2. In the About This Mac
It's worth noting that it is still possible to move back and forth between
the top and bottom of the messages colum. You need to interact with it, and
pressing VO-shift-home and VO-shift-end will take you back and forth between
the top and bottom respectively.
Perhaps not as convenient as
Hi Donna,
I'm a little confused. I am able to use arrow keys in both Classic and the new
Mail view. I concur that first letter navigation does not work in the new
view. Although, when in the Sent folder,, the very first time, it took me
directly to the bottom, but subsequent times put me
Hi! Thanks for this. I just bought the apple extended care plan as part of my
nearly 2 hour phone call with apple, just in
case this turns out to be something serious. I sent my system info to apple,
though, and based on that system report, they
don't see any issues. So, I'll just have to
Hi, all,
I resolved this, and thought I'd better post in case someone else finds it.
ZTerm has been updated to work with Lion using a serial port and/or
USB-to-serial adapter, so all is well.
Teresa
On Jul 21, 2011, at 9:10 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Hi, all,
Well, I should have seen this
Hi,
I don't know about the iPad, but it works fine on the iPhone, and not at all
under lion!!! Every time I try to input anything, it takes all of the letters
as their words. Forexample, the word mail comes up as moreailike.
Very strange!
Vaughn.On 23/07/2011, at 5:18 AM, carolyn Haas
Hi there!
My braille is a little rusty!
So does this mean you've got to put dots 5 and 6 before each letter to tell the
Mac that the following item is a letter and not a word!
That's of course if I remembered that right!
Colin
On 22 Jul 2011, at 22:26, Vaughn Bennison wrote:
Hi,
I don't
I am seeing some delay, but also a lot of garbage that I don't want to hear as
I scroll through the messages, even when I interact with a particular column
such as subject. This behavior isn't always stable, meaning that sometimes,
for no reason I can think of, it stops doing that and reads as
That's great if you have a full keyboard. If you're on a Macbook pro, that is
a much more difficult keystroke to manage.
Best,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:05 PM, Marc Workman wrote:
It's worth noting that it is still possible to move back and forth between
the top and bottom of the messages
Hello Peggy,
This might be a silly question, but are you sure you have a Finder Window open
inside Finder? I think most of the Finder menu items will be greyed out if
there are no windows open. You can press Command+N to open a new window.
HTH,
Bryan
On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Peggy
I'm having the same issue, and I was addicted to the thing, especially when
using Facebook or finding articles that the Reader couldn't.
On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Austin Seraphin wrote:
Oh dear. I love the item chooser, and just tried using it on a web page. I
tried typing a few letters
First, on the MBP, you also have to hold down the function key. I am unable to
perform that keystroke. Second, assuming that you *can perform that
keystroke, in order for that to work, you have to interact with the messages
table, otherwise those keystrokes take you out of the message list.
Mine did this a while back and I had to have my husband restart my machine as I
couldn't get the hot key to work. After the restart, it was fine.
On Jul 20, 2011, at 9:12 PM, Cakes wrote:
Hi folks,
Help!
First of all, every once and a while I somehow mute VO by simply accidentally
I am as well, and I agree. the item chooser was incredibly handy when viewing
large web pages in Safari.
Donna
On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:43 PM, carlene knight wrote:
I'm having the same issue, and I was addicted to the thing, especially when
using Facebook or finding articles that the Reader
The control, option, shift, and function keys are all right next to each
other, no? I can do the keystroke without much difficulty on an Apple
bluetooth keyboard. It's not as easy as option up or down, but it surely
would have been easier than arrowing down through so many messages. Even
You should be able to change the keystroke to something easier using
keyboard commander, though this still wouldn't allow you to go from
beginning to end in classic layout without interacting. However, you can
see all the headers even when you do interact with the messages table if you
use
Am I missing some voice choices? I'm only finding Alex, Fred, Olivia and
Vicki. I might be missing one or two, but only Alex sounds high quality to me.
Are there others somewhere? I've looked in the default voices under speech
and found nothing else. I also tried checking the voices with
So, if we no longer have the up and down arrow keys to scroll through messages,
how is one expected to navigate the mail app? All of this sounds very
confusing, and makes me glad I haven't upgraded yet.
Shannon
Are you a fan of women's music? If so, join me each Thursday from noon until
three
Did you check the tasks running? Short battery life and it being warm might be
a task that is doing a lot or is very active.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote:
That's what I have too: a 2011 13 inch macbook pro. I'm not sure if the
battery life being cut in half is related or
Hi Donna;
I found that you can scroll through your playlists by using VO/arrow keys. My
husband who is sighted said that when I was using just the arrow keys as I used
to do, the VO cursor wasn't keeping focus at all. As far as VO being sluggish,
it takes forever and a day to unload and
Hi! I'm not 100 percent sure how to check tasks on the mac, but all that I had
open was finder and yourufukurou. I've
repaired permissions, so will try running off battery again tomorrow and see if
that makes any kind of difference. I have
screen curtain on and screen brightness set to 0.
Ok, folks, I now have a Lion DVD! Thanks so much.
Teresa
On Jul 22, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Aha! Thanks, guys! I'll definitely give this a try and post on my progress.
Teresa
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:25 AM, Shen wrote:
Teresa,
Yes, you did miss a couple of steps. Here is
Hi Carleen:
Mine still thinks so, and it's been a year and a half.:)
Carolyn
On Jul 22, 2011, at 4:08 PM, carlene knight wrote:
Am I missing some voice choices? I'm only finding Alex, Fred, Olivia and
Vicki. I might be missing one or two, but only Alex sounds high quality to
me. Are
Hi, Since I upgraded to Lion I have found that reading pdf documents in preview
has been problematic
some words especially at the start and end of lines are being cut off. For
instance if the word at the start of a line is there voiceover pronouces it
as re Has anyone else noticed this?
Hi Bryan,
I did have a window open but it was one that I had open by default. I opened a
new one though as you suggested and it solved the problem. Thanks for the
help. I'm always glad to learn something new.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:42 PM, Bryan Jones wrote:
Hello Peggy,
This might be a
Hi Donna! and others!
Like someone has suggested I've got a keyboard commander set for this function!
To go from the bottom or top to the other end, whilst staying in the same
column I use right option and either 1 [to top] 2 [for bottom]
You find the commands in the navigation part of the list
Hum, I know you probably don't want to hear this, but 64 bit win7 and
window-eyes 7.5 installed seemlessly here under fusion.
This is vmware fusion for mac by the way. Since it's a clean install, why not
just blow it away and re-install? No data lost.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
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I'm discovering that iTunes is sluggish and quite unresponsive with VO under
Lion. First letter navigation worked for me some of the time and the
sluggishness disappeared when I made a Genius playlist. In other words, I could
use my arrow keys to navigate fine within the playlist, just like the
Not only that, but it allows you to switch between the router options totally
on the fly by pressing up and left arrow or up and right arrow to move the
router back and fourth.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
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Hi all!
So I've finally joined the Iphone crowd!
I've had a little play with connecting my Apple keyboard with the Iphone and it
works great!
So to my question!
Is there a way to get back to the home screen with the keyboard, the only way
I've found so far is to use the home button on the
Hi Teresa,
Is the Lion installation file still in the applications folder?
On 7/22/2011 3:59 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
Hi, all,
Well, clearly, I've made a decidedly wrong turn here. I may have done something
entirely wrong or missed something, so here is what I've done.
I had to download
Command f5 should work to toggle VO on and off.
On Jul 21, 2011, at 12:34 AM, Georges Zaynoun wrote:
I am wondering if there is a command from the keyboard to toggle speech on
and off without using the trackpad.
Original message:
Hi,
Yup,
You can turn the trackpad commander off by
Hi Red:
I just played around a it with mine, and voH actually brought me to Home from
favorites. But, don't hold me to that.:)
I do know command shift H did nothing, which surprised me.
I'm using an Appe Wireless keyboard. But, the keyboard commands are the same.
Congrats on getting an
Somebody on another list made reference to the Lion VO docs being up. They
referred to a section on the launch pad. I just went to the Apple site and I
still see the SL getting started guide, although I also see references to Lion
on the general VO page. Has anybody found in depth documentation
One of the Vision Australia files that Ron posted talked about a new way of
searching in Safari. I wonder if this means the way I've been using involving
control option f, typing the search term and then hitting control option g to
find subsequent occurrences of that same term has gone away. I
No, control option f still works.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
One of the Vision Australia files that Ron posted talked about a new way of
searching in Safari. I wonder if this means the way I've been using involving
control option f, typing the search term and then
Go to System Preferences and then go to Speech preferences. Then find the
button for customize and you will see a huge list of voices. Go through the
list and find one you like and check that one. After that tab until you get
to the OK button. Press the OK button and you will get a prompt
Hi Carolyn!
Yes in deed the vo+h is the way!
Someone on the other list also said!
Thanks!
Colin
On 23 Jul 2011, at 00:31, carolyn Haas wrote:
Hi Red:
I just played around a it with mine, and voH actually brought me to Home from
favourites. But, don't hold me to that.:)
I do know command
Hi all,
I hope someone can help me. I’m having issues installing adium. I seem to
have the ap installed, but when I click on it it says somethingl ike poor
server ui input or similar, sorry it wouldn’t let me read the text so I don’t
know exactly what it said. But there was a show website
Yeah, sounds like an issue on your end only really. I've upgraded and
see no problem with battery at all. If anything, I seem to be getting
more battery than I did in SL.
Regards,
James
On 7/23/11, Missy Hoppe melis...@fuse.net wrote:
Hi! I'm not 100 percent sure how to check tasks on the mac,
Hi Colin,
VO-H is the equivalent of pressing the home button, and VO-HH will take you
to the app switcher.
I would recommend doing a google search for the list of short cuts. I don't
have the link handy, but it is easy to find. And you will find that
virtually every voiceover gesture can
I actually was able to work this out. (see the rest of this thread.) I had
initially downloaded Lion for the second time, but instead of pressing
continue, I pressed close or cancel (I don't remember what the button
was, really, but I shut it down, and at that point, the installer was in the
Hello there. I happen to know of at least three other people experiencing the
same battery issue I am, so it's not just me.
It still may be an extremely obscure problem, but I find it reassuring that I'm
not the only person experiencing it.
Unfortunately, none of the others had reported the
Well, go to your settings for Braille and set it for Contracted Braille
input. That is quite easy to do.
- Original Message -
From: Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Inputting with grade two
Thanks. I will have to give it a try.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 5:13 PM, David Tanner wrote:
Go to System Preferences and then go to Speech preferences. Then find the
button for customize and you will see a huge list of voices. Go through the
list and find one you like and check that one.
Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, why in the
heck is it, that if I go to either
http://www.freedomscientific.com
Or:
http://www.hj.com
Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff happening here
as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick
it's there now. open the getting started guide and it should work.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:33 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
Somebody on another list made reference to the Lion VO docs being up. They
referred to a section on the launch pad. I just went to the Apple site and I
still see the SL getting
I don't have Lion. I'm looking for a getting started guide that I can access
from the web, and when I did that earlier today, I got the SL one. I mean just
a couple hours ago, but will try again in case they made the change in that
time.
Mary
Mary Otten
motte...@gmail.com
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and of course, it's not like you can do vo+F, as that only works if the item
actually is visible on the screen visually.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Donna Goodin goodi...@msu.edu
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: Item Chooser
Just wondering if anyone else out there notice that there are a lot of
witches with Mac OSx lion invoice over. One of the things I noticed
right away when trying to use the new voices is that you get the
annoying message that says voiceover busy. I notice that it happens a
lot in the Safari web
I am really sorry for your newest lion frustrations. To be brutally honest,
although I haven't run into many of the issues
discussed over the past few days, my own Lion weirdness has almost driven me to
the point where I'm this close to going back
to Snow Leopard. The thing is, if I do, I need
Yeah, but it only works if the item is visually on the screen as is my
experience.
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Westbrook westbch...@gmail.com
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: searching in Safari on Lion
No, control
I've got the core I 7 macbook pro, too. I haven't heard voice-over busy
messages yet, but that's only because with everything
else going on, I haven't done much playing around in Saphari yet. I am really,
really regretting the fact that I upgraded so
soon; common sense told me not to do it, and
Hey David:
Had no idea! Wonderful! Thank you.
Carolyn
On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:31 PM, David Tanner wrote:
Well, go to your settings for Braille and set it for Contracted Braille
input. That is quite easy to do.
- Original Message - From: Caitlyn Furness
caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com
Hi Chris:
Do yourself and all of us a favor:
Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a pointless
rave like this. No one really needs to hear it.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this,
Hello Mary,
Hope this is what you're looking for. I'm using Lion and here's what I get when
I press VO+H and select VoiceOver Getting Started Guide.
http://help.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/10.7/English.lproj/index.html
Cheers,
Bryan
On Jul 22, 2011, at 8:57 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I don't
Hi guys.
Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since Lion came
out so don't expect these problems to just magically go away.
If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. It can be
done easily enough if you have a recent backup.
Email off list please
And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or lion. The
reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, freedom scientific
offers direct ftp links to their downloads and safari apparently can't handle
direct ftp links. If you REALLY want to download Jaws from a
Ok if I put this file on a flash drive can I make a clean install from
that flash drive? I mean does this file make a flash drive bootable? I
want to make a clean install using a flash drive not a dvd, how to go
about that please? Help.
Original message:
that's what I ended up doing. Disc
Oh believe me, if you've not been following the thread, the lag is the least
of your worries!
Chris.
- Original Message -
From: Quinn Haberl quinnhaber...@gmail.com
To: MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 9:06 PM
Subject: Voice over lag and
Hi All,
I'm wondering if anybody here can give some examples of ways they find the new
activities feature useful? Coming from SL I'm used to not having them, and so
would love to hear from others cases where they're of practical benefit. I'm
mostly just curious, though that won't stop me from
OK. I know this is really starting to stray off topic, so I'll keep this short.
Your message really is baffling me. As I
said, I know of at least three other people experiencing the same battery issue
I am, so please explain how this is not a
lion issue if we were all getting 8 plus hours
Carolyn, why don't you do me! a favor actually, and don't ever! contact me
on, nor! off list again. It's obvious we don't get along.
I'll say no more on list than that, but, I will say leave? me, alone! end,
of, discussion!
This is nonnogociable!
Chris.
- Original Message -
From:
hello list
my iMac keyboard is set to english u.s. since the new lions contains voices in
other languages, i would like to be able to write text in a different language.
please tell me how to accomplish this task?
thank you in advance.
best
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On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:59 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Carolyn, why don't you do me! a favor actually, and don't ever! contact me
on, nor! off list again. It's obvious we don't get along.
I'll say no more on list than that, but, I will say leave? me, alone! end,
Yeah I know what you mean. I really hope that Apple is not using its
commitment to those who have visual impairments. As far as I'm
concerned at least with Mac OS X Snow Leopard Apple has stood out
amongst the competition. I love my MacBook Pro and I love Apple
because of accessibility. But I'm
I just wanted to say I'm getting used to the new conversation view in mail.
The way i do it now is to expand a conversation I'm interested in and then down
arrow to the first message. Then I do a vo+j to go to the preview pane and
then read the message, then I either delete it or do a vo+j
I can't help but think that some of these problems are system specific. I
haven't had any busy messages with webkit, ever since spotlight got done
indexing my files my mac has ran as normal. Have you tried repairing
permissions? That seems to have helped for me too. There was a message
Hi CHris,
The area you mention is accessible if you don't expand a conversation, but
instead stop interacting and move right. I'm not sure what goes on visually in
conversation view, but it occurs to me you might not need to expand them all
that often actually. Experimentation is in order.
hello listers
is it possible to control graule volume independently?
thank you in advance
best
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Well I am glad you have no trouble with that gesture. I do. But what you're
saying is that I needf to accommodate Apple's failure here. I don't agree.
Frankly, I would have had an easier time just viewing my last message in my
sent mail folder on a PC. I find that rather sad, it should be a
Hmm. I tried that once, and if I recall, it didn't keep me in the messages
table. But I'll give it another shot. thanks for the suggestion.
Best,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:03 PM, Red.Falcon wrote:
Hi Donna! and others!
Like someone has suggested I've got a keyboard commander set for this
I think all of us are. *sigh*
Donna
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Kevin Shaw wrote:
I'm discovering that iTunes is sluggish and quite unresponsive with VO under
Lion. First letter navigation worked for me some of the time and the
sluggishness disappeared when I made a Genius playlist. In
It occurred to me to wonder and ask something. What with so many of y'all
seemingly having so many issues with mail and such, have y'all tried maybe
repairing disk permitions after doing the install? Just a thought that perhaps
that might clear things up.
Now, what's this I hear about you
You don't, and can in fact merely tab over once you're sitting on the thread
you want to view. This will get you to a list of messages within that thread,
from where you can either use left and right, or up and down arrows to navigate
through them. To return to the threads list, either use VO
Okay, this, for one thing, is not a Lion message.
For about 7 hours now, CCC has been performing an initial backup to a
1TB USB drive and seems to have gotten stuck right almost toward the end. Any
suggestions?
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
Now a very proud and happy
Hi Ray and all,
Yes, I highly recommend a permission repair after install. I did so today, and
was surprised at just how many errors were caught and fixed. As far as Mail
goes, I have had no problems completing recipient addresses the same way I
always did in SL. I can't comment on the Item
Hi Shameless,
A small caveat here. THis seems to only really work in Classic view, but is
otherwise very sound advice. I appreciate it.
Best and thanks,
Zack.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:37 PM, Shameless FanGirl wrote:
You don't, and can in fact merely tab over once you're sitting on the thread
Hi Ray,
I can hear recipients' addresses in the new view, but I have to type more of
the letters before VO speaks them.
Cheers,
Donna
On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:37 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
It occurred to me to wonder and ask something. What with so many of y'all
seemingly having so many issues
No, I just tried it, it works in the regular view, with the caveat that you
must use vo+up and down arrow to move through the messages when in the message
content area. also if you set a hot spot on the mailbox list I think you can
get there a lot quicker.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Zachary
Thanks Zack. :) Just double-checked, and I'm not running classic view according
to prefs.
On Jul 22, 2011, at 10:44 PM, Zachary Kline wrote:
Hi Shameless,
A small caveat here. THis seems to only really work in Classic view, but is
otherwise very sound advice. I appreciate it.
Best and
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