Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update. http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) Teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update. http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) Teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To
braille display question
Hi, So this morning I was happily reading on my brailliant 40 bi and I heard this beep beep and then it shut down, or so I thought. All the cells went blank and it looked like it does when it's turned off. So, I unmuted vo and checked the battery level on the display. I have 38percent left. when I tried to resume using it, it wouldn't repair with my mac. Anybody else have this happen? I'll try again later.. Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update. http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) Teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Yosemite worth it or not?
I'm seriously busy with family life, and so I've skipped Mavericks. Running the good old dependable mountain kitty, and still mostly purring along. However, I feel like I should keep up with the OS upgrades, but is Yosemite worth it? Will I have to spend a whole weekend tinkering to get it right, and is accessibility improved, the same or worse? I haven't even got the latest version of Itunes due to what I'm hearing about problems with accessibility. I'm a pretty advanced Mac user, but don't want the headache of a weekend spent geeking out just to get my E-mail. Thanks! * Mark BurningHawk Baxter * AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 * MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com * My home page: * http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Most of the issues I find in software seem to fall into two buckets. Either the developer used standard controls but failed to label them, or they made custom controls and failed to finish the job by making them accessible (undiscoverable or unusable). The former is easier to fix, the latter can be difficult depending on what kind of crazy UI they thought up. CB On 6/3/14, 12:08 AM, Alex Hall wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com mailto:jldai...@gmail.com wrote: This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update. http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) Teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
Re: Yosemite worth it or not?
You're really not going to know until this fall. Unless, of course, you care to participate in the beta program, which it sounds like you would not. Especially being as the first beta was only just released to developers, no one can make a fair commentary on your questions yet anyhow. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seriously busy with family life, and so I've skipped Mavericks. Running the good old dependable mountain kitty, and still mostly purring along. However, I feel like I should keep up with the OS upgrades, but is Yosemite worth it? Will I have to spend a whole weekend tinkering to get it right, and is accessibility improved, the same or worse? I haven't even got the latest version of Itunes due to what I'm hearing about problems with accessibility. I'm a pretty advanced Mac user, but don't want the headache of a weekend spent geeking out just to get my E-mail. Thanks! * Mark BurningHawk Baxter * AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 * MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com * My home page: * http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to go for a holiday and stop mail
Might be a way via email commands but here is what I wrote to a similar question on May 21st: You can fiddle with your account settings by going to groups.google.com and find the signin link near the top of the page. Use your email address and password to get in. Once you're in find and open up the MacVisionaries group and then find the My Settings popup button. When you action that there will be a few choices. You want the My membership and email settings for this group. In there you'll find a popup button which has choices to not send email updates, combine multiple messages into one email and other settings. Make your choices and then find the Save button. CB On 6/3/14, 12:11 AM, Agent086b wrote: Hello, I am going away in July August for a mother holiday. So I don't have the same problems re-joining the 2 google lists I am a member of. How do I set a vacation mode? Groups that use the Mailman program there is an easy way to go nomail. Sorry for all this traffic. Max -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite worth it or not?
Heh. See how out of the loop I am? Guess I'll just bail on Mavericks. I totally missed the WWDC yesterday and only saw a blurb about a new iPhone on the news this morning on my way by. My iPhone 5 is currently down and going in for repair (something about moisture damage through the Otterbox docking station port, blah blah blah) so Yeah. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter * AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 * MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com * My home page: * http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
which lap top
I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: which lap top
I am not sure if all mac book pros have this but you can purchase a number pad separately. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: which lap top
Why not call apple? May get all general questions answered there more accurately. Regards, Feliciano Sent from the Super-iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
I am, but I am waiting on my code. Apple is emailing all non-developers a download code they will use to grab Yosemite, and mine has not come yet. Unfortunately, I don't have two displays to work with, only my poor, neglected Apex. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update. http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Has anyone found these? I'm wondering if my decrepit 2009 Mac Mini is up to the task. Actually, it's pretty spry for its age. :) Teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving
Re: which lap top
None do, to my knowledge, at least not the modern machines. As others have said, you can purchase a USB or bluetooth numpad, or a full-sized keyboard that includes a numpad. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite worth it or not?
I wrote a summary of all the announcements for www.applevis.com, it should be right on the homepage. That way you can catch up without spending two hours listening to the Keynote. Yosemite is only just out in beta and will be released as a free upgrade this fall. One major area addressed in the Keynote was Mail; they have added some fancy new features, but they also stated that they had worked hard to make Mail more stable and faster. Given all the problems in Mavericks, and that Mail got its own spot in the Keynote, I really feel like it will be a solid app when it comes out. Only time will tell, though, so watch this list in the fall for the comments from early adopters. Some of us will be doing beta testing, but of course we can't say anything, only report the bugs and hope for the best. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: Heh. See how out of the loop I am? Guess I'll just bail on Mavericks. I totally missed the WWDC yesterday and only saw a blurb about a new iPhone on the news this morning on my way by. My iPhone 5 is currently down and going in for repair (something about moisture damage through the Otterbox docking station port, blah blah blah) so Yeah. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter * AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 * MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com * My home page: * http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: which lap top
Hi, No, none of the Mac Laptop models have a built-in NumPad. There's just not enough space for one. Your options are to use a external USB or Bluetooth NumPad or to use an external extended keyboard either USB or Bluetooth. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: None do, to my knowledge, at least not the modern machines. As others have said, you can purchase a USB or bluetooth numpad, or a full-sized keyboard that includes a numpad. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: which lap top
I don't recall Apple ever making a laptop with a numeric keypad. I like full size keyboards so when I'm not laptoping in some random location I have a USB full-size keyboard with real pageup/down, home, end and numeric keypad. As others have mentioned, there are lots of external numeric keypads as well both USB and Bluetooth. Older Macbooks had an option to set up the main keyboard as a numeric keypad with 7 8 9 as 7 8 9 followed by u i o for 4 5 6 and j k l for 123 etc. but that option was taken away (why?) but 3rd party extension will bring it back. Here is one that lets you use the fn key to do the numeric keyboard, or another key combo to do a 'num lock': https://pqrs.org/macosx/keyremap4macbook/index.html CB On 6/3/14, 10:00 AM, Alex Hall wrote: None do, to my knowledge, at least not the modern machines. As others have said, you can purchase a USB or bluetooth numpad, or a full-sized keyboard that includes a numpad. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com mailto:maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Ż\_(?)_/Ż -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite worth it or not?
IF I had to go just on the promised feature set alone, I'd say it will be worth it. The continuity it will offer between the iPhone and Mac with respect to documents, messenger, e-mail and contacts, and yes, phone calls to will, in my view, make it something to be eagerly anticipated. When you consider the fact that with Yosemite you will be able to answer phone calls using your Mac, and make them as well, I'd say it will be worth it. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote: You're really not going to know until this fall. Unless, of course, you care to participate in the beta program, which it sounds like you would not. Especially being as the first beta was only just released to developers, no one can make a fair commentary on your questions yet anyhow. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seriously busy with family life, and so I've skipped Mavericks. Running the good old dependable mountain kitty, and still mostly purring along. However, I feel like I should keep up with the OS upgrades, but is Yosemite worth it? Will I have to spend a whole weekend tinkering to get it right, and is accessibility improved, the same or worse? I haven't even got the latest version of Itunes due to what I'm hearing about problems with accessibility. I'm a pretty advanced Mac user, but don't want the headache of a weekend spent geeking out just to get my E-mail. Thanks! * Mark BurningHawk Baxter * AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 * MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com * My home page: * http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite worth it or not?
Thanks Alex, Ray and Isaac. I avoided Mavericks a lot because of the Gmail hassles people were having, yes. I'll check out Applevis. * Mark BurningHawk Baxter * AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 * MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com * My home page: * http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite worth it or not?
I would have to say it is worth it as well. After here about mails new features it is worth it. isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com Skype gold_wildcat On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: IF I had to go just on the promised feature set alone, I'd say it will be worth it. The continuity it will offer between the iPhone and Mac with respect to documents, messenger, e-mail and contacts, and yes, phone calls to will, in my view, make it something to be eagerly anticipated. When you consider the fact that with Yosemite you will be able to answer phone calls using your Mac, and make them as well, I'd say it will be worth it. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote: You're really not going to know until this fall. Unless, of course, you care to participate in the beta program, which it sounds like you would not. Especially being as the first beta was only just released to developers, no one can make a fair commentary on your questions yet anyhow. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seriously busy with family life, and so I've skipped Mavericks. Running the good old dependable mountain kitty, and still mostly purring along. However, I feel like I should keep up with the OS upgrades, but is Yosemite worth it? Will I have to spend a whole weekend tinkering to get it right, and is accessibility improved, the same or worse? I haven't even got the latest version of Itunes due to what I'm hearing about problems with accessibility. I'm a pretty advanced Mac user, but don't want the headache of a weekend spent geeking out just to get my E-mail. Thanks! * Mark BurningHawk Baxter * AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 * MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com * My home page: * http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: which lap top
Hi, Just food for thought. Unless one purchases a 17 inch PC laptop, a numpad is not included in the keyboard layout on the PC side either. (Maybe OT). Hence, I have to use a USB external numpad. Because I have Win8 installed in bootcamp, I have plugged in a full USB keyboard, with a numpad. When I need to use it on the Mac side, one needs to remember that the ALT key is the option key (Mac), and the Windows key is the command key on the Mac side. I do miss not having a dedicated home/end key on the Mac Air's keyboard. I can access the beginning and the end of a sentence, but navigating with more advance options have never worked out for me with the native Mac Air keyboard. JMO. May be I just don't know all the tricks of the trade yet. *Smile* Best, Eileen From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:16 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: which lap top Hi, No, none of the Mac Laptop models have a built-in NumPad. There's just not enough space for one. Your options are to use a external USB or Bluetooth NumPad or to use an external extended keyboard either USB or Bluetooth. HTH. Later. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: None do, to my knowledge, at least not the modern machines. As others have said, you can purchase a USB or bluetooth numpad, or a full-sized keyboard that includes a numpad. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: which lap top
Thanks for the info. The full size key board may be my option here. On 6/3/14, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just food for thought. Unless one purchases a 17 inch PC laptop, a numpad is not included in the keyboard layout on the PC side either. (Maybe OT). Hence, I have to use a USB external numpad. Because I have Win8 installed in bootcamp, I have plugged in a full USB keyboard, with a numpad. When I need to use it on the Mac side, one needs to remember that the ALT key is the option key (Mac), and the Windows key is the command key on the Mac side. I do miss not having a dedicated home/end key on the Mac Air's keyboard. I can access the beginning and the end of a sentence, but navigating with more advance options have never worked out for me with the native Mac Air keyboard. JMO. May be I just don't know all the tricks of the trade yet. *Smile* Best, Eileen From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:16 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: which lap top Hi, No, none of the Mac Laptop models have a built-in NumPad. There's just not enough space for one. Your options are to use a external USB or Bluetooth NumPad or to use an external extended keyboard either USB or Bluetooth. HTH. Later. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: None do, to my knowledge, at least not the modern machines. As others have said, you can purchase a USB or bluetooth numpad, or a full-sized keyboard that includes a numpad. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: which lap top
hi, Regarding the Home and End keys on an MBA, these do exist. Press the FN key in the lower left-hand corner along with the left arrow for Home and with the right arrow for End. You may wish to use the Keyboard Practice mode, VO-k, to learn some of these tricks, press the Escape key to leave that mode. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just food for thought. Unless one purchases a 17 inch PC laptop, a numpad is not included in the keyboard layout on the PC side either. (Maybe OT). Hence, I have to use a USB external numpad. Because I have Win8 installed in bootcamp, I have plugged in a full USB keyboard, with a numpad. When I need to use it on the Mac side, one needs to remember that the ALT key is the option key (Mac), and the Windows key is the command key on the Mac side. I do miss not having a dedicated home/end key on the Mac Air's keyboard. I can access the beginning and the end of a sentence, but navigating with more advance options have never worked out for me with the native Mac Air keyboard. JMO. May be I just don't know all the tricks of the trade yet. *Smile* Best, Eileen From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:16 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: which lap top Hi, No, none of the Mac Laptop models have a built-in NumPad. There's just not enough space for one. Your options are to use a external USB or Bluetooth NumPad or to use an external extended keyboard either USB or Bluetooth. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: None do, to my knowledge, at least not the modern machines. As others have said, you can purchase a USB or bluetooth numpad, or a full-sized keyboard that includes a numpad. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Hey Alex. Can you send the link again to sign up for public betas? I wouldn’t mind playing with OS 10.10. I wonder if we’ll be getting more voices. I certainly hope that we can use the Siri voices that are on the iPhone on the Mac. That would be so cool. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? I am, but I am waiting on my code. Apple is emailing all non-developers a download code they will use to grab Yosemite, and mine has not come yet. Unfortunately, I don't have two displays to work with, only my poor, neglected Apex. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update. http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6 Sent from my
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Sure: http://appleseed.apple.com On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:01 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hey Alex. Can you send the link again to sign up for public betas? I wouldn’t mind playing with OS 10.10. I wonder if we’ll be getting more voices. I certainly hope that we can use the Siri voices that are on the iPhone on the Mac. That would be so cool. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? I am, but I am waiting on my code. Apple is emailing all non-developers a download code they will use to grab Yosemite, and mine has not come yet. Unfortunately, I don't have two displays to work with, only my poor, neglected Apex. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: This
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
I suddenly discovered a pairing workaround one day. I set the sounds to 'on in VO. When the pairing dialog comes up, it flashes a window, which makes a sound. As soon as I hear that sound, I turn my display off, which keeps the window in focus for some odd reason. Then I find the edit field to put the pin in and press enter. (The pin, for Focus 40 Blue, anyway, is , by the way.) then I turn the display back on. If you don't turn the display off the first time the pairing window comes up, the window keeps flashing in and out of focus. Hth, teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 2, 2014, at 3:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: This page I just found use the system requirements for the next Mac update. http://www.businessinsider.com/ios-8-os-x-1010-yosemite-system-requirements-2014-6 Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Teresa Cochran
Re: braille display question
Hi Cait. Did you go into the menu on the brailliant and check the connection setting? It should be set to auto. Best Erik Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 6:04 AM Subject: braille display question Hi, So this morning I was happily reading on my brailliant 40 bi and I heard this beep beep and then it shut down, or so I thought. All the cells went blank and it looked like it does when it's turned off. So, I unmuted vo and checked the battery level on the display. I have 38percent left. when I tried to resume using it, it wouldn't repair with my mac. Anybody else have this happen? I'll try again later.. Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Hi Alex. When I went to sign in with my Apple ID and password on the website, I got a page saying that my session has expired. Is it because I’m trying to do this with Windows? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? Sure: http://appleseed.apple.com On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:01 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hey Alex. Can you send the link again to sign up for public betas? I wouldn’t mind playing with OS 10.10. I wonder if we’ll be getting more voices. I certainly hope that we can use the Siri voices that are on the iPhone on the Mac. That would be so cool. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? I am, but I am waiting on my code. Apple is emailing all non-developers a download code they will use to grab Yosemite, and mine has not come yet. Unfortunately, I don't have two displays to work with, only my poor, neglected Apex. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr
Re: braille display question
Kate, I've had this happen when the battery level got down to about 10 or 11%, but not at 38. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So this morning I was happily reading on my brailliant 40 bi and I heard this beep beep and then it shut down, or so I thought. All the cells went blank and it looked like it does when it's turned off. So, I unmuted vo and checked the battery level on the display. I have 38percent left. when I tried to resume using it, it wouldn't repair with my mac. Anybody else have this happen? I'll try again later.. Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
How Accessible Would Getting to A Second OS X testPartition Be?
I was reading on Ars Technica about creating a test partition to try Yosemite beta. My question is: how accessible would the boot process be? Would I have to count arrow-key presses or some such similar thing? thanks, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Yosemite worth it or not?
I upgraded one of my computers to Mavericks and left one on Mountain Lion, partly because brltty still isn't fully functional for me in Mavericks. But after listening to the keynote, I am sure I will have to upgrade everything to Yosemite when it is released. -- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness. (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:31 AM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: IF I had to go just on the promised feature set alone, I'd say it will be worth it. The continuity it will offer between the iPhone and Mac with respect to documents, messenger, e-mail and contacts, and yes, phone calls to will, in my view, make it something to be eagerly anticipated. When you consider the fact that with Yosemite you will be able to answer phone calls using your Mac, and make them as well, I'd say it will be worth it. Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:44 AM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote: You're really not going to know until this fall. Unless, of course, you care to participate in the beta program, which it sounds like you would not. Especially being as the first beta was only just released to developers, no one can make a fair commentary on your questions yet anyhow. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:35 AM, Mark Baxter markbaxte...@gmail.com wrote: I'm seriously busy with family life, and so I've skipped Mavericks. Running the good old dependable mountain kitty, and still mostly purring along. However, I feel like I should keep up with the OS upgrades, but is Yosemite worth it? Will I have to spend a whole weekend tinkering to get it right, and is accessibility improved, the same or worse? I haven't even got the latest version of Itunes due to what I'm hearing about problems with accessibility. I'm a pretty advanced Mac user, but don't want the headache of a weekend spent geeking out just to get my E-mail. Thanks! * Mark BurningHawk Baxter * AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 * MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com * My home page: * http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How Accessible Would Getting to A Second OS X testPartition Be?
A follow-up thought I had was that if I want to switch partitions, could I go into the recovery partition and choose one as the startup? This at least would be accessible with VO. Teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.--Pete graham On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I was reading on Ars Technica about creating a test partition to try Yosemite beta. My question is: how accessible would the boot process be? Would I have to count arrow-key presses or some such similar thing? thanks, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How Accessible Would Getting to A Second OS X testPartition Be?
While I haven't tried it, you should be able to partition your drive to appear as two separate disks with disk utility. Depending on how full the current drive is you might be able to shrink the existing partition enough to make room for Yosemite. Then you would install Yosemite on that new drive. As far as switching startup drives, you should be able to do that by going to System Preferences and picking which drive to start from and then reboot. While you can also do this by holding down the option key while booting, I suspect that way is not accessible since there won't be an OS running yet to host voiceover. CB On 6/3/14, 12:40 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: A follow-up thought I had was that if I want to switch partitions, could I go into the recovery partition and choose one as the startup? This at least would be accessible with VO. Teresa The golden age of science fiction is twelve.---Pete graham On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com mailto:batsfly...@me.com wrote: I was reading on Ars Technica about creating a test partition to try Yosemite beta. My question is: how accessible would the boot process be? Would I have to count arrow-key presses or some such similar thing? thanks, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.---Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Ż\_(?)_/Ż -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How Accessible Would Getting to A Second OS X testPartition Be?
Thanks, Chris. Yes, I had that concern about the option-key method as well. The startup-disk option in Disk Utility sounds like a workable method. Thanks, teresa “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. Feynman On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:48 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: While I haven't tried it, you should be able to partition your drive to appear as two separate disks with disk utility. Depending on how full the current drive is you might be able to shrink the existing partition enough to make room for Yosemite. Then you would install Yosemite on that new drive. As far as switching startup drives, you should be able to do that by going to System Preferences and picking which drive to start from and then reboot. While you can also do this by holding down the option key while booting, I suspect that way is not accessible since there won't be an OS running yet to host voiceover. CB On 6/3/14, 12:40 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: A follow-up thought I had was that if I want to switch partitions, could I go into the recovery partition and choose one as the startup? This at least would be accessible with VO. Teresa “The golden age of science fiction is twelve.”—Pete graham On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I was reading on Ars Technica about creating a test partition to try Yosemite beta. My question is: how accessible would the boot process be? Would I have to count arrow-key presses or some such similar thing? thanks, Teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: which lap top
Some more food for thought is that you can use a program like KeyRemap4MacBook and PCKeyboard Hack to give yourself a numpad by using the FN keys. This also gives you a more familiar layout for Windows virtual machines if you're so inclined to use something like that. Applevis has a podcast about KeyRemap4MacBook, I believe. From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:55 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: which lap top hi, Regarding the Home and End keys on an MBA, these do exist. Press the FN key in the lower left-hand corner along with the left arrow for Home and with the right arrow for End. You may wish to use the Keyboard Practice mode, VO-k, to learn some of these tricks, press the Escape key to leave that mode. Later. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:46 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com mailto:eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just food for thought. Unless one purchases a 17 inch PC laptop, a numpad is not included in the keyboard layout on the PC side either. (Maybe OT). Hence, I have to use a USB external numpad. Because I have Win8 installed in bootcamp, I have plugged in a full USB keyboard, with a numpad. When I need to use it on the Mac side, one needs to remember that the ALT key is the option key (Mac), and the Windows key is the command key on the Mac side. I do miss not having a dedicated home/end key on the Mac Air's keyboard. I can access the beginning and the end of a sentence, but navigating with more advance options have never worked out for me with the native Mac Air keyboard. JMO. May be I just don't know all the tricks of the trade yet. *Smile* Best, Eileen From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 7:16 AM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: which lap top Hi, No, none of the Mac Laptop models have a built-in NumPad. There's just not enough space for one. Your options are to use a external USB or Bluetooth NumPad or to use an external extended keyboard either USB or Bluetooth. HTH. Later. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com mehg...@icloud.com wrote: None do, to my knowledge, at least not the modern machines. As others have said, you can purchase a USB or bluetooth numpad, or a full-sized keyboard that includes a numpad. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Marianne Denning mailto:maria...@denningweb.com maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit
Re: Reading Documents
Phil, I don't seem to have the line ending service on my Mavericks system. Do you know where I can get it? Chris On May 20, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: I did a little checking and found that you can enable certain text services that will convert line endings to and from Mac/Unix/Windows among other interesting things. I enabled the line ending services and tried them out on a text file created in windows. Everywhere there was a blank line in the file, VO would say return, new line. I selected the entire file and used the Macintosh lines ending service and it changed the blank lines from saying return, new line to only saying return. Again, this applies to blank lines between paragraphs. Where there is no blank line between paragraphs, there is no line ending words like return or new line spoken. And, this only applies when reading the file manually by line or paragraph. return, new line is not spoken when reading the entire document with the VO-A command. services are enabled in system preferences under the shortcuts tab. Select services in the category, table, and text in the services table. Then check the checkbox for the services you want to appear in the services menu in your various text processing apps like pages or text edit. On May 20, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Tristan theblinddj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I believe I have discovered my problem, though I am unsure of a quick fix (besides some alterations via terminal). Windows and Mac OS X use very different linefeeds at the end. Windows uses a carriage return, whilst Mac simply uses a linefeed character. These files were most likely created on a Windows computer, thus they are encoded for viewing on a Windows operating system. Running some commands via terminal to convert them from dos to unix format was successful, and the problem with VO saying 'new line' and 'return' seems to have disappeared. Running this on every one of these files could be very time consuming and irritating at the very least, however. Does anyone have experience with converting the linebreaks on these sorts of files to OS X format? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria and Joe Chapman Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading Documents HI. I believe text express will keep your place. I hope this helps Cheers Maria Produced on macbook probubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 20 May 2014, at 3:00 am, Tristan theblinddj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've been told this is possible, but haven't exactly determined how. I have several articles, documents and books in simple document formats (.txt, rtf, etc). Whenever I read these in TextEdit/Pages, every time a grammatical or spelling error is discovered, VO interrupts the reading flow to make that known. Also, every time a new paragraph begins, or there are blank lines, it says return or new line. This is extremely ideal for editing or word processing, but not for reading something without annoying and unnecessary interruptions. Is there an app that would be optimal for reading long texts, such as textbooks or articles? It seems iBooks is still largely inaccessible even with the 10.9.3 update. Alternatively, can I turn these announcements off in the Voice Over Utility? Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
RE: Reading Documents
http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html Do a vo+f and search for WordService on the webpage. Download that and install it with the included readme. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading Documents Phil, I don't seem to have the line ending service on my Mavericks system. Do you know where I can get it? Chris On May 20, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com mailto:philh...@gmail.com wrote: I did a little checking and found that you can enable certain text services that will convert line endings to and from Mac/Unix/Windows among other interesting things. I enabled the line ending services and tried them out on a text file created in windows. Everywhere there was a blank line in the file, VO would say return, new line. I selected the entire file and used the Macintosh lines ending service and it changed the blank lines from saying return, new line to only saying return. Again, this applies to blank lines between paragraphs. Where there is no blank line between paragraphs, there is no line ending words like return or new line spoken. And, this only applies when reading the file manually by line or paragraph. return, new line is not spoken when reading the entire document with the VO-A command. services are enabled in system preferences under the shortcuts tab. Select services in the category, table, and text in the services table. Then check the checkbox for the services you want to appear in the services menu in your various text processing apps like pages or text edit. On May 20, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Tristan theblinddj...@gmail.com mailto:theblinddj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I believe I have discovered my problem, though I am unsure of a quick fix (besides some alterations via terminal). Windows and Mac OS X use very different linefeeds at the end. Windows uses a carriage return, whilst Mac simply uses a linefeed character. These files were most likely created on a Windows computer, thus they are encoded for viewing on a Windows operating system. Running some commands via terminal to convert them from dos to unix format was successful, and the problem with VO saying 'new line' and 'return' seems to have disappeared. Running this on every one of these files could be very time consuming and irritating at the very least, however. Does anyone have experience with converting the linebreaks on these sorts of files to OS X format? From: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [ mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria and Joe Chapman Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:37 AM To: mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading Documents HI. I believe text express will keep your place. I hope this helps Cheers Maria Produced on macbook pro mailto:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com bubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 20 May 2014, at 3:00 am, Tristan mailto:theblinddj...@gmail.com theblinddj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've been told this is possible, but haven't exactly determined how. I have several articles, documents and books in simple document formats (.txt, rtf, etc). Whenever I read these in TextEdit/Pages, every time a grammatical or spelling error is discovered, VO interrupts the reading flow to make that known. Also, every time a new paragraph begins, or there are blank lines, it says return or new line. This is extremely ideal for editing or word processing, but not for reading something without annoying and unnecessary interruptions. Is there an app that would be optimal for reading long texts, such as textbooks or articles? It seems iBooks is still largely inaccessible even with the 10.9.3 update. Alternatively, can I turn these announcements off in the Voice Over Utility? Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Probably. I've never tried it from Windows, but that may be the problem. On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:38 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Alex. When I went to sign in with my Apple ID and password on the website, I got a page saying that my session has expired. Is it because I’m trying to do this with Windows? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? Sure: http://appleseed.apple.com On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:01 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hey Alex. Can you send the link again to sign up for public betas? I wouldn’t mind playing with OS 10.10. I wonder if we’ll be getting more voices. I certainly hope that we can use the Siri voices that are on the iPhone on the Mac. That would be so cool. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? I am, but I am waiting on my code. Apple is emailing all non-developers a download code they will use to grab Yosemite, and mine has not come yet. Unfortunately, I don't have two displays to work with, only my poor, neglected Apex. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language
Re: How Accessible Would Getting to A Second OS X testPartition Be?
I do the startup disk option all the time, and it works perfectly. I even set up a hotkey, cmd-option-comma, to open System Preferences because I found myself in there a lot. I'm sure some sort of Applescript could make the process even simpler, but this works for now. On Jun 3, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: Thanks, Chris. Yes, I had that concern about the option-key method as well. The startup-disk option in Disk Utility sounds like a workable method. Thanks, teresa “Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.”—Richard P. Feynman On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:48 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: While I haven't tried it, you should be able to partition your drive to appear as two separate disks with disk utility. Depending on how full the current drive is you might be able to shrink the existing partition enough to make room for Yosemite. Then you would install Yosemite on that new drive. As far as switching startup drives, you should be able to do that by going to System Preferences and picking which drive to start from and then reboot. While you can also do this by holding down the option key while booting, I suspect that way is not accessible since there won't be an OS running yet to host voiceover. CB On 6/3/14, 12:40 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: A follow-up thought I had was that if I want to switch partitions, could I go into the recovery partition and choose one as the startup? This at least would be accessible with VO. Teresa “The golden age of science fiction is twelve.”—Pete graham On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:19 AM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: I was reading on Ars Technica about creating a test partition to try Yosemite beta. My question is: how accessible would the boot process be? Would I have to count arrow-key presses or some such similar thing? thanks, Teresa “Outside of a dog, a book is a man’s best friend. Inside of a dog, it’s too dark to read.”—Groucho Marx -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
mavericks spotlight troubles
Hi all, I'm not following much the list since I'm mostly on the iPhone. IS there a way to navigate spotlight with VO that does not pop up the preview window? I get stuck in that window and can't find a way to continue scrolling through the other search results. THanks for your help and sorry if this has. Been discussed before. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
Yep, that was the problem. I switched back to the Mac and was able to sign up for the public beta with no problems. Can’t wait to try it out. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? Probably. I've never tried it from Windows, but that may be the problem. On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:38 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Alex. When I went to sign in with my Apple ID and password on the website, I got a page saying that my session has expired. Is it because I’m trying to do this with Windows? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? Sure: http://appleseed.apple.com http://appleseed.apple.com/ On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:01 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hey Alex. Can you send the link again to sign up for public betas? I wouldn’t mind playing with OS 10.10. I wonder if we’ll be getting more voices. I certainly hope that we can use the Siri voices that are on the iPhone on the Mac. That would be so cool. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? I am, but I am waiting on my code. Apple is emailing all non-developers a download code they will use to grab Yosemite, and mine has not come yet. Unfortunately, I don't have two displays to work with, only my poor, neglected Apex. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
I never get to ask to enter a pin when in pairing mode using the Mac. On 3 Jun 2014, at 20:58, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Yep, that was the problem. I switched back to the Mac and was able to sign up for the public beta with no problems. Can’t wait to try it out. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? Probably. I've never tried it from Windows, but that may be the problem. On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:38 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hi Alex. When I went to sign in with my Apple ID and password on the website, I got a page saying that my session has expired. Is it because I’m trying to do this with Windows? Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:22 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? Sure: http://appleseed.apple.com On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:01 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hey Alex. Can you send the link again to sign up for public betas? I wouldn’t mind playing with OS 10.10. I wonder if we’ll be getting more voices. I certainly hope that we can use the Siri voices that are on the iPhone on the Mac. That would be so cool. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? I am, but I am waiting on my code. Apple is emailing all non-developers a download code they will use to grab Yosemite, and mine has not come yet. Unfortunately, I don't have two displays to work with, only my poor, neglected Apex. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they
What does Yosemite mean?
One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What does Yosemite mean?
are you asking the meaning of the word itself? Want to be sure before I answer, Karen On Tue, 3 Jun 2014, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What does Yosemite mean?
Yosemite is a location in California. Starting with Mavericks, Apple began naming new releases of OS X after places in California that enspire the Apple team. Calling is still done through your iPhone. Your Mac essentially becomes a really big bluetooth speakerphone, and can display incoming call information. It can also make calls through the same mechanism, pushing the phone number from itself over to your phone. So, calling strictly from the Mac is still up to Skype and FaceTime, but cellular calls are possible if you also own an iPhone. On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What does Yosemite mean?
Hi, Kawal, Yosemite is a Native American word. It is the name of a national park in California in the United States. The next versions of oS X are named after famous places in California. The last one, Mavericks, was named after a well-known surfing location on the California coast. The phone calls will be routed through your phone, if you have one. I'm not sure if you can initiate one on your Mac and complete it on your device. I don't think you'll be able to make a phone call entirely on your Mac. admittedly, I don't have an iPhone, so I'm not as familiar with this option as others might be. HtH, Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What does Yosemite mean?
any idea how you would manually dial a number to use thephone fature or does it have to be with the contact list? On 6/3/2014 1:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Yosemite is a location in California. Starting with Mavericks, Apple began naming new releases of OS X after places in California that enspire the Apple team. Calling is still done through your iPhone. Your Mac essentially becomes a really big bluetooth speakerphone, and can display incoming call information. It can also make calls through the same mechanism, pushing the phone number from itself over to your phone. So, calling strictly from the Mac is still up to Skype and FaceTime, but cellular calls are possible if you also own an iPhone. On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com mailto:kawa...@me.com wrote: One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What does Yosemite mean?
They managed to dial in number yesterday during the Keynote. I am not sure how they did it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote: any idea how you would manually dial a number to use thephone fature or does it have to be with the contact list? On 6/3/2014 1:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Yosemite is a location in California. Starting with Mavericks, Apple began naming new releases of OS X after places in California that enspire the Apple team. Calling is still done through your iPhone. Your Mac essentially becomes a really big bluetooth speakerphone, and can display incoming call information. It can also make calls through the same mechanism, pushing the phone number from itself over to your phone. So, calling strictly from the Mac is still up to Skype and FaceTime, but cellular calls are possible if you also own an iPhone. On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What does Yosemite mean?
I think it's as Alex says, which makes sense to me. The Mac functions as a giant bluetooth speaker phone or headset Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote: any idea how you would manually dial a number to use thephone fature or does it have to be with the contact list? On 6/3/2014 1:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Yosemite is a location in California. Starting with Mavericks, Apple began naming new releases of OS X after places in California that enspire the Apple team. Calling is still done through your iPhone. Your Mac essentially becomes a really big bluetooth speakerphone, and can display incoming call information. It can also make calls through the same mechanism, pushing the phone number from itself over to your phone. So, calling strictly from the Mac is still up to Skype and FaceTime, but cellular calls are possible if you also own an iPhone. On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What does Yosemite mean?
They select the number the usual way, then (I think) control-click and tell the Mac to call it. I don't know if you can make a phone call to stored contacts, but I can't imagine they would leave that out. On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: They managed to dial in number yesterday during the Keynote. I am not sure how they did it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote: any idea how you would manually dial a number to use thephone fature or does it have to be with the contact list? On 6/3/2014 1:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Yosemite is a location in California. Starting with Mavericks, Apple began naming new releases of OS X after places in California that enspire the Apple team. Calling is still done through your iPhone. Your Mac essentially becomes a really big bluetooth speakerphone, and can display incoming call information. It can also make calls through the same mechanism, pushing the phone number from itself over to your phone. So, calling strictly from the Mac is still up to Skype and FaceTime, but cellular calls are possible if you also own an iPhone. On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: braille display question
Yep. It's still on auto. I really thought the battery had gone dead. do you think it just lost the connection or something? does it have a sleep mode after a certain amount of time? I was actively reading with it, though, so that last really doesn't make sense.. thanks! Cait On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:32 AM, e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi Cait. Did you go into the menu on the brailliant and check the connection setting? It should be set to auto. Best Erik Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 6:04 AM Subject: braille display question Hi, So this morning I was happily reading on my brailliant 40 bi and I heard this beep beep and then it shut down, or so I thought. All the cells went blank and it looked like it does when it's turned off. So, I unmuted vo and checked the battery level on the display. I have 38percent left. when I tried to resume using it, it wouldn't repair with my mac. Anybody else have this happen? I'll try again later.. Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: braille display question
thanks Did plugging it in help? Cait On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Kate, I've had this happen when the battery level got down to about 10 or 11%, but not at 38. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So this morning I was happily reading on my brailliant 40 bi and I heard this beep beep and then it shut down, or so I thought. All the cells went blank and it looked like it does when it's turned off. So, I unmuted vo and checked the battery level on the display. I have 38percent left. when I tried to resume using it, it wouldn't repair with my mac. Anybody else have this happen? I'll try again later.. Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: braille display question
Yes, when I plugged it in, the battery started charge. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 5:54 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: thanks Did plugging it in help? Cait On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:46 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote: Kate, I've had this happen when the battery level got down to about 10 or 11%, but not at 38. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:04 AM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, So this morning I was happily reading on my brailliant 40 bi and I heard this beep beep and then it shut down, or so I thought. All the cells went blank and it looked like it does when it's turned off. So, I unmuted vo and checked the battery level on the display. I have 38percent left. when I tried to resume using it, it wouldn't repair with my mac. Anybody else have this happen? I'll try again later.. Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: mavericks spotlight troubles
Hi, check out a free app called EasyFind. here is the AppleVis link. http://www.applevis.com/apps/mac/utilities/easyfind Thanks, Rob You can leave me a voice mail or fax at 206-426-3505 God is good all the time, All the time God is good On 6/3/2014 2:46 PM, Ioana Gandrabur wrote: Hi all, I'm not following much the list since I'm mostly on the iPhone. IS there a way to navigate spotlight with VO that does not pop up the preview window? I get stuck in that window and can't find a way to continue scrolling through the other search results. THanks for your help and sorry if this has. Been discussed before. Best, Ioana Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Non-contiguous events calendar
Hi, is there a way to add new events that happen non-contiguously? For example, I have events this Summer that happen Mondays Tuesdays for about 3 weeks. This same event title occurs Monday-Thursday for 1 week in the middle of the Summer. Is there some way I can select days, then create the event? Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: What does Yosemite mean?
Thanks All. I didn't know there was a place (can't spell it now) but I can't wait until it's out because the phone feature sounds great. On 3 Jun 2014, at 22:19, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: They select the number the usual way, then (I think) control-click and tell the Mac to call it. I don't know if you can make a phone call to stored contacts, but I can't imagine they would leave that out. On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:57 PM, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote: They managed to dial in number yesterday during the Keynote. I am not sure how they did it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:53 PM, Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona hank.smith...@gmail.com wrote: any idea how you would manually dial a number to use thephone fature or does it have to be with the contact list? On 6/3/2014 1:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote: Yosemite is a location in California. Starting with Mavericks, Apple began naming new releases of OS X after places in California that enspire the Apple team. Calling is still done through your iPhone. Your Mac essentially becomes a really big bluetooth speakerphone, and can display incoming call information. It can also make calls through the same mechanism, pushing the phone number from itself over to your phone. So, calling strictly from the Mac is still up to Skype and FaceTime, but cellular calls are possible if you also own an iPhone. On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:40 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: One of my questions is in the subject line. The other question is, how will you be able to make phone calls on the Mac using Yosemite when you have no credit or sim card in your Mac? Will it be to any fixed phone line or to just mobiles do you think? Kawal. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to go for a holiday and stop mail
Sorry, was away on May 21st. Does anybody know the email commands to do this. I really find difficulties with the Google pages. Max On 3 Jun 2014, at 11:49 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Might be a way via email commands but here is what I wrote to a similar question on May 21st: You can fiddle with your account settings by going to groups.google.com and find the signin link near the top of the page. Use your email address and password to get in. Once you're in find and open up the MacVisionaries group and then find the My Settings popup button. When you action that there will be a few choices. You want the My membership and email settings for this group. In there you'll find a popup button which has choices to not send email updates, combine multiple messages into one email and other settings. Make your choices and then find the Save button. CB On 6/3/14, 12:11 AM, Agent086b wrote: Hello, I am going away in July August for a mother holiday. So I don't have the same problems re-joining the 2 google lists I am a member of. How do I set a vacation mode? Groups that use the Mailman program there is an easy way to go nomail. Sorry for all this traffic. Max -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements?
I signed up. On Jun 3, 2014, at 10:21, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: Sure: http://appleseed.apple.com On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:01 AM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote: Hey Alex. Can you send the link again to sign up for public betas? I wouldn’t mind playing with OS 10.10. I wonder if we’ll be getting more voices. I certainly hope that we can use the Siri voices that are on the iPhone on the Mac. That would be so cool. Shawn Sent From My White MacBook From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 8:59 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mac OS 10.10 Yosemite system requirements? I am, but I am waiting on my code. Apple is emailing all non-developers a download code they will use to grab Yosemite, and mine has not come yet. Unfortunately, I don't have two displays to work with, only my poor, neglected Apex. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:30 AM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi there It ain't easy! I had to go in for a Genius Bar appointment. Basically, voiceover is missing telling you some stuff on the screen, plus it doesn't work every time anyway. When you think you've got the Braille display up on the screen, tell voiceover to do a search for the word focus. Then you have to press return when it's time to do the Perry. Like I said, it doesn't work every time. Just keep at it. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:02 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kawa...@me.com wrote: Hello Eugenia. Please tell me how you got your Focus Blue working on the Mac Via Blue Tooth as I tried it sometime ago and it would not do it and so reported it to the accessibility team who were investigating it. Not tried it since. I have the Focus Blue 40 and plan to buy the Focus blue 14 next month to use with my I phone and sell my Apple Wireless Keyboard as I have two of them. Kawal. On 3 Jun 2014, at 01:47 pm,Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex Are you planning to do that public beta thing? Right now while in this message I am testing my Braille Edge under Usb because now I have the situation that my little Focus 14 sort of works in Bluetooth, doesn't work very well under USB, and now I can't have both my Braille Edge 40 and my Focus 14 on the Bluetooth list at the same time. What's weird is that is was, until I took the Braille Edge off, not on the VoiceOver table but on the System Preferences list. Now that I have the Focus 14 working well enough for me to use it under Bluetooth for what what I got it for, it looks like I am going to have to use the Braille Edge 40 with USB for a while, whether I want to or not. Luckily, it is the Braille Edge 40 is working very well writing this message using Bluetooth. So, if you do the beta thing, could you see if you can put two Braille displays on the Bluetooth list and be able to switch between them? If you can't, could somebody please test this? I may decide to do it myself, but I'blind need to check with Apple first because I still have that open case on my Focus 14. Regards, Gigi On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:08 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: True enough. The thing is, most developers know and will probably still use Objective-C for quite a while to come. I haven't used the Swift language yet, but I don't see how it will help avoid accessibility problems. It may offer slightly faster coding, but that is about it. I'll let you all know if my opinion changes as I get more into Swift, which won't be until Xcode6 comes out. On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:56 PM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: They have a new language which is called Swift. Seems to eliminate a lot of the cruft required to get ObjectiveC to do what they want and also eliminates a number of constructs that were authoring errors. So it sounds like they are trying to set developers up for success more easily which should be good for everybody. CB On 6/2/14, 10:37 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: Hi guys I just got through listening to the keynote, and I didn't hear anything that calls me to say, all know jeepers! I think we're going to be okay basically, but, as always, we will probably have some Accessibility miseries for a while. If I understand what was said, they wrote a new programming language which, if I understand what was going on there, they'll be able to figure out problems easier. Do I get that right? Sincerely, Gigi Sent from my iPhone On Jun 2, 2014, at 6:10 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote: In short, I'm okay at least for the next round. Can you just imagine how that's going to work out with accessibility? Sent from my mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in! Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5
RE: which lap top
Hi I use the logitek 750 which is sola powered and is full size with a number pad and is great From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 10:16 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: which lap top Hi, No, none of the Mac Laptop models have a built-in NumPad. There's just not enough space for one. Your options are to use a external USB or Bluetooth NumPad or to use an external extended keyboard either USB or Bluetooth. HTH. Later. Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: None do, to my knowledge, at least not the modern machines. As others have said, you can purchase a USB or bluetooth numpad, or a full-sized keyboard that includes a numpad. On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Marianne Denning maria...@denningweb.com wrote: I need to purchase a MacBook. The person who will use it has no vision. The one thing that is important is a key board with the numeric key pad on the key board. I have a MacBook Air and it does not have this. Do any of the MacBook pro computers have this? -- Marianne Denning, TVI, MA Teacher of students who are blind or visually impaired (513) 607-6053 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
wifi not sure if on or off on Mini but cannot use internet, mail
Hello all, I have a perplexing problem. My Mac Mini dropped off the wifi a few days ago. My brother was able to do something and said the Mini wifi was not on. He got wifi turned on, at least it was on until I turned off the Mini just a few mins ago. I could get the internet but when I turned it off and back on, wifi was gone again. I went to system prefs and network. There is a button that says turn wifi off. That makes me think I am connected to wifi, but mail, internet, etc is not viable. Help! I have a course on line I am trying to get to which I have not been able to get to at all because of no wifi and I want to access it on the Mac. I have cable wifi, a network set up and rebooted by the cable company a week ago with a new password and every other device including my roommate's window's machine is on wifi. I moved the Mini from about 30 feet away from the router to now around a wall about 5 feet from the router. Do you think I need a stronger router? Thank everyone so much for any thoughts or ways of getting my wifi back. I am anxious to start my course. reggie and Allegra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Reading Documents
Thanks. I installed word service with a little help from the terminal. It has lots of interesting text utilities. The one which removes the extraneous carriage returns is called Unix line endings. I've been looking for this for a long time! Chris On Jun 3, 2014, at 1:52 PM, Tristan theblinddj...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.devontechnologies.com/products/freeware.html Do a vo+f and search for WordService on the webpage. Download that and install it with the included readme. HTH From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Moore Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 1:50 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading Documents Phil, I don't seem to have the line ending service on my Mavericks system. Do you know where I can get it? Chris On May 20, 2014, at 11:35 AM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote: I did a little checking and found that you can enable certain text services that will convert line endings to and from Mac/Unix/Windows among other interesting things. I enabled the line ending services and tried them out on a text file created in windows. Everywhere there was a blank line in the file, VO would say return, new line. I selected the entire file and used the Macintosh lines ending service and it changed the blank lines from saying return, new line to only saying return. Again, this applies to blank lines between paragraphs. Where there is no blank line between paragraphs, there is no line ending words like return or new line spoken. And, this only applies when reading the file manually by line or paragraph. return, new line is not spoken when reading the entire document with the VO-A command. services are enabled in system preferences under the shortcuts tab. Select services in the category, table, and text in the services table. Then check the checkbox for the services you want to appear in the services menu in your various text processing apps like pages or text edit. On May 20, 2014, at 4:07 AM, Tristan theblinddj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I believe I have discovered my problem, though I am unsure of a quick fix (besides some alterations via terminal). Windows and Mac OS X use very different linefeeds at the end. Windows uses a carriage return, whilst Mac simply uses a linefeed character. These files were most likely created on a Windows computer, thus they are encoded for viewing on a Windows operating system. Running some commands via terminal to convert them from dos to unix format was successful, and the problem with VO saying 'new line' and 'return' seems to have disappeared. Running this on every one of these files could be very time consuming and irritating at the very least, however. Does anyone have experience with converting the linebreaks on these sorts of files to OS X format? From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Maria and Joe Chapman Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:37 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Reading Documents HI. I believe text express will keep your place. I hope this helps Cheers Maria Produced on macbook probubbygirl1...@gmail.com On 20 May 2014, at 3:00 am, Tristan theblinddj...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've been told this is possible, but haven't exactly determined how. I have several articles, documents and books in simple document formats (.txt, rtf, etc). Whenever I read these in TextEdit/Pages, every time a grammatical or spelling error is discovered, VO interrupts the reading flow to make that known. Also, every time a new paragraph begins, or there are blank lines, it says return or new line. This is extremely ideal for editing or word processing, but not for reading something without annoying and unnecessary interruptions. Is there an app that would be optimal for reading long texts, such as textbooks or articles? It seems iBooks is still largely inaccessible even with the 10.9.3 update. Alternatively, can I turn these announcements off in the Voice Over Utility? Thanks in advance -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this
Re: wifi not sure if on or off on Mini but cannot use internet, mail
Hi, You probably need to go into the wifi menu in the status menu ( vo mm). Once you're in the wifi menu you can reconnect to your network. Chris On Jun 3, 2014, at 7:58 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a perplexing problem. My Mac Mini dropped off the wifi a few days ago. My brother was able to do something and said the Mini wifi was not on. He got wifi turned on, at least it was on until I turned off the Mini just a few mins ago. I could get the internet but when I turned it off and back on, wifi was gone again. I went to system prefs and network. There is a button that says turn wifi off. That makes me think I am connected to wifi, but mail, internet, etc is not viable. Help! I have a course on line I am trying to get to which I have not been able to get to at all because of no wifi and I want to access it on the Mac. I have cable wifi, a network set up and rebooted by the cable company a week ago with a new password and every other device including my roommate's window's machine is on wifi. I moved the Mini from about 30 feet away from the router to now around a wall about 5 feet from the router. Do you think I need a stronger router? Thank everyone so much for any thoughts or ways of getting my wifi back. I am anxious to start my course. reggie and Allegra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Extreme iTunes Frustration Continued: Update
Well, folks, I am officially off the deep end. I removed all music from my phone, unsynced music on iTunes, made sure all was as I want it, and re-synced. Now, instead of 430 of my over one thousand songs, I have 63, and 37 artists, some with different songs available than those on the songs playlist. This, despite the fact that I have about 600 songs checked for syncing, and all artists, genres, and albums otherwise unchecked. I do not know what is going on. Someone proposed off-list that I might have two iTunes libraries for some reason, but I can't imagine how that might have happened, and checking around, I see no way of determine that. Plus, if I see a list with songs checked and unchecked under devices, it would stand to reason that all checked songs should sync, if that is the available media. I am beyond frustrated at this point. Christine On Jun 2, 2014, at 11:02 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote: Hi, To delete all music from your iPhone, make sure iTunes Match is turned off on the iPhone, then in iTunes on your Mac, make sure that Sync Music is not checked in the Music pane. Apply your changes and all music should be removed. Sometimes, my favourite word in computer-land creeps up and should factors in, so, you need to confirm things on your iPhone. That is, go into the Music app, in the Songs pane and make sure that all have been removed. You usually can swipe up and delete any songs that were not properly deleted from the first process. Then you can go ahead and try setting things up the way you want them in iTunes on your Mac. Once you re-apply the changes, everything should be fine. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:45 AM, Christine Grassman cgrassman1...@gmail.com wrote: I want to thank all of you who are trying to assist with your suggestions. However: 1. I did have music turned off in iTunes and app store. 2. I understand how to use the grid; before going into column browser, the album grid was not going past a certain point, no matter what I did. 3. I did change to column browser, and do see the different listings, but do not see where to check and uncheck artists, genres, albums, or particular songs from a particular artist or album. I am only seeing check or uncheck when songs are selected, which was always the case, and which, as started this whole problem, does not appear to make a difference. Going out of my mind with this wasted space on my iPhone, and having to skip, skip, skip, when listening to music because of the currently unwanted selections. . . . Kimba, how did you delete all music from your phone easily and then start over? I'm thinking this is my next try. Christine -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Request for Explanation of synching with itunes
Dear List when you plug an idevice into a mac and synch it what exactly is happening. Say I have some music on the idevice, and a different set of music on the mac, and I then synch them, does this mean that now both mac and idevice have all the combined music, or that the phone now has what was on the mac but not what it had on itself? I have purchased music on an idevice. When I search for these albums in the itunes store on the mac they have a purchased dimmed button next to them but there is no download link. When I activate the purchased tab there is nothing there. How many macs and idevices is it possible to have on the same apple id, does the limit of 5 just apply to computers or to all devices? Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Virtual help via remote access
Hello, I am resending this question. Forgive me if an answer was given, and if this is a repeat. I had been affected by issues with Apple, and Gmail, but I am back after the update. Are there people offering services to blind Mac users who will log in, and offer help with inaccessible programs, and the like remotely? Antonio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
removing sim card from iphone4?
Hello how do I remove the sim card from my iphone4? I can't find the slot, I have a removal tool but i can't find out where to remove my sim card any one know? I know it differs from the iphone 3gs -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Virtual help via remote access
wouldn't mind also knowing this as well Hank On 6/3/2014 7:03 PM, Antonio Guimaraes wrote: Hello, I am resending this question. Forgive me if an answer was given, and if this is a repeat. I had been affected by issues with Apple, and Gmail, but I am back after the update. Are there people offering services to blind Mac users who will log in, and offer help with inaccessible programs, and the like remotely? Antonio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Virtual help via remote access
Hi Antonio I don't know if this helps, but they can look at your screen at the Apple accessibility number which is 877-204-3930. I have done this more than once, and it's great. We even turned VoiceOver off once, and the Apple adviser was telling me how to move my finger on the trackpad. I can't remember now why we were doing this, but it had something to do with not being able to easily make something work with VoiceOver. Regards, Gigi On Jun 3, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Antonio Guimaraes freethau...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am resending this question. Forgive me if an answer was given, and if this is a repeat. I had been affected by issues with Apple, and Gmail, but I am back after the update. Are there people offering services to blind Mac users who will log in, and offer help with inaccessible programs, and the like remotely? Antonio -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: wifi not sure if on or off on Mini but cannot use internet, mail
Hi, Yes, if the button reads as Turn WiFi Off, then your WiFi is likely on, although, that doesn't necessarily guarantee that you're connected to a network. Press VO-m-m to get to Menu Extras then VO right until you find the WiFi status menu, VO-space on that and see if your network is showing up there. If it is, then press return on it and you should connect. Now, this will only reconnect you, but does not fix the issue that is happening when you restart your Mini. For that part, I suggest that you go into System Preferences in the Network pane, ensure that WiFi is selected in the Interfaces table, and then go down near the bottom of the pane and VO-space on the Advanced button. Once in the Advanced dialog, Interact with the Preferred Networks table and see where your network is placed. If it is not at the top of your list, then you should remove the networks listed above it. Normally, one drags these into the desired order but that isn't always a VO friendly task. What the MacOS does is look from the top of the list through to the bottom and if it finds a matching network, it will join it. So, placing yours at the top of the list usually solves many issues like you're having. If this does not resolve your network dropping, let me know and I'll see what else I can come up with. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I have a perplexing problem. My Mac Mini dropped off the wifi a few days ago. My brother was able to do something and said the Mini wifi was not on. He got wifi turned on, at least it was on until I turned off the Mini just a few mins ago. I could get the internet but when I turned it off and back on, wifi was gone again. I went to system prefs and network. There is a button that says turn wifi off. That makes me think I am connected to wifi, but mail, internet, etc is not viable. Help! I have a course on line I am trying to get to which I have not been able to get to at all because of no wifi and I want to access it on the Mac. I have cable wifi, a network set up and rebooted by the cable company a week ago with a new password and every other device including my roommate's window's machine is on wifi. I moved the Mini from about 30 feet away from the router to now around a wall about 5 feet from the router. Do you think I need a stronger router? Thank everyone so much for any thoughts or ways of getting my wifi back. I am anxious to start my course. reggie and Allegra -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Request for Explanation of synching with itunes
Hi, the limit only refers to computers, iDevices are a separate category. If the computer and iDevice are both set with the same Apple ID, then the syncing process usually will simply move items from the Mac to the iDevice. There is an option under the File menu of iTunes called Device which allows you to transfer purchases from the iPhone to the Mac that don't already exist on the Mac. Normally, though, if the items were purchased in the iTunes Store under the same Apple ID, then they should be visible and available for download on both devices. You may wish to make sure that you have Show iTunes in the Cloud Purchases checked in the Store pane of your iTunes Prefs on your Mac. Hope this helps clarify some. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 7:32 PM, Lee Jones leejones...@sky.com wrote: Dear List when you plug an idevice into a mac and synch it what exactly is happening. Say I have some music on the idevice, and a different set of music on the mac, and I then synch them, does this mean that now both mac and idevice have all the combined music, or that the phone now has what was on the mac but not what it had on itself? I have purchased music on an idevice. When I search for these albums in the itunes store on the mac they have a purchased dimmed button next to them but there is no download link. When I activate the purchased tab there is nothing there. How many macs and idevices is it possible to have on the same apple id, does the limit of 5 just apply to computers or to all devices? Many Thanks Lee -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: How to go for a holiday and stop mail
Hi, I’m pretty sure that this can only be done via the Google page. If you use the tab key, the return key and the arrow keys on the Google page for MacVisionaries, it’s usually easier to manage. Just use VO to check boxes if necessary, although, you could just use the spacebar in those situations as well. Good luck. Later… Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:35 PM, Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com wrote: Sorry, was away on May 21st. Does anybody know the email commands to do this. I really find difficulties with the Google pages. Max On 3 Jun 2014, at 11:49 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote: Might be a way via email commands but here is what I wrote to a similar question on May 21st: You can fiddle with your account settings by going to groups.google.com and find the signin link near the top of the page. Use your email address and password to get in. Once you're in find and open up the MacVisionaries group and then find the My Settings popup button. When you action that there will be a few choices. You want the My membership and email settings for this group. In there you'll find a popup button which has choices to not send email updates, combine multiple messages into one email and other settings. Make your choices and then find the Save button. CB On 6/3/14, 12:11 AM, Agent086b wrote: Hello, I am going away in July August for a mother holiday. So I don't have the same problems re-joining the 2 google lists I am a member of. How do I set a vacation mode? Groups that use the Mailman program there is an easy way to go nomail. Sorry for all this traffic. Max -- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Non-contiguous events calendar
Hi, Not that I'm aware of. What I would do, is set them up as a recurring event on Mondays and Tuesdays, then modify the Tuesday event for the given week or weeks. When you go to modify it, Calendar will ask you if you're modifying the single event or all future events, for which you'd answer just that single event. HTH. Later... Tim Kilburn Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Jun 3, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, is there a way to add new events that happen non-contiguously? For example, I have events this Summer that happen Mondays Tuesdays for about 3 weeks. This same event title occurs Monday-Thursday for 1 week in the middle of the Summer. Is there some way I can select days, then create the event? Thanks, Traci -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Help needed with using calendars please
Hi all Just wondered if anyone could help with this one. I am trying to put anniversaries into my calendar (birthdays etc). Is there a good way of doing this? My default calendar is home. However, on both my IPhone and IPad, when I go into my list of calenndars a calendar called birthdays appears. But when I go to add an event and it asks me which calendar I want to put it in it only offers me home or work, and the birthdays one doesn't appear at all. Anyone got any ideas how I can fix or get round this so I can put these birthdays in my calendar? Many thanks for any hhelp. Eleanor Sent from my iPad -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: braille display question
Hi, Have you tried removing it from braille preferences in the voiceover utility and re-adding it? Best, Erik Burggraaf Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2014-06-03, at 5:53 PM, Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. It's still on auto. I really thought the battery had gone dead. do you think it just lost the connection or something? does it have a sleep mode after a certain amount of time? I was actively reading with it, though, so that last really doesn't make sense.. thanks! Cait On Jun 3, 2014, at 11:32 AM, e...@erik-burggraaf.com wrote: Hi Cait. Did you go into the menu on the brailliant and check the connection setting? It should be set to auto. Best Erik Sent from my android device. -Original Message- From: Caitlyn and Maggie caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 6:04 AM Subject: braille display question Hi, So this morning I was happily reading on my brailliant 40 bi and I heard this beep beep and then it shut down, or so I thought. All the cells went blank and it looked like it does when it's turned off. So, I unmuted vo and checked the battery level on the display. I have 38percent left. when I tried to resume using it, it wouldn't repair with my mac. Anybody else have this happen? I'll try again later.. Cait -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: recalcitrant Apple keyboard
I use a standard Apple bluetooth keyboard all the time on my Mac Mini. Only time I have keystrokes not getting processed is when I wake the machine out of sleep mode. Then I think VO is more the problem with lack of responsiveness. I may also experience much sluggishness or whatever when Time Machine is updating my backup. Machine and keyboard just work better when that process gets out of the way. Another thing I like to do to be sure my keyboard is working OK is to tap the Caps Lock key because this won't input any unwanted characters but VO will speak a response when things are working right. Another trick is to hold down FN key and press F11 and F12 back and forth and you will hear the ticks of the volume control. I base this last comment on having the function keys set to software so FN key must be held down for hardware things like volume. On Jun 2, 2014, at 7:57 AM, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote: I have the Apple bluetooth keyboard and though I know usually when the batteries are going, it seems to often just be recalcitrant about keystrokes or commands. Today I have to exit Mail and come back in before it would register that I was hitting the delete key or enter key. Often in my Twitter client, Night Owl, keyboard commands will be totally ignored for many presses of the key until finally something clicks. I do love the feel and size of the Apple keyboard and thus have not tried a full size regular keyboard to know if these things are endemic. I'll probably try the commands on the MBP keyboard next,as that brilliant idea just popped into my head but does anyone else have this issue with the apple bluetooth keyboard? Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups MacVisionaries group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
