Re: iTunes update issue

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I never had the issue either. But then I don't have any widgets loaded because 
I don't know what they are for really. If you don't have the widgets loaded, 
then it won't give you update trouble. 

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Re: iTunes update issue

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You would just need to have it disabled for the update I'd think. Then you 
could re-enable the widget as you like I'd guess.

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Re: iTunes update issue

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Did you check the "extensions" pane in system preferences to see if the iTunes 
widget is enabled there? If it is, then you can uncheck the box that enables 
the iTunes widget and then you should be able to get the update.

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Re: Is Apple's iCloud website now completely inaccessible

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I have not got the site to work at all here. I tried 3 times and Safari crashed 
all 3 times. I didn't even get the timezone selected. It just crashed after I 
signed in and tried to click the button that said to change the timezone. 
Clicking the button  labelled "setup instructions" also produced a crash. So I 
suppose it's just as well that I haven't needed icloud.com for anything. I'm 
not sure what you can do from the site that you couldn't manage from your 
devices, but I guess we wait until they fix it to find out.

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Re: slight apple rant

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As far as I know, iOS doesn't even offer an update if the device doesn't 
support it. I'd report this as a bug to Apple.

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Re: Vertical Splitter

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I have no idea. What's a horizontal splitter and a vertical splitter for? I'm 
guessing it splits the screen in those directions in some way but how does this 
affect voiceover? I figured VoiceOver didn't care what the screen size, window 
size or layout was?

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Re: What We Got from Apple's October 2016 Event | AppleVis

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I'm sure they have something. It's like everything else. I personally can use a 
touchscreen just fine but use a bluetooth keyboard if I'd like to type a lot of 
stuff quickly. You'll just have to figure out what your workflow is. I'm sure 
someone will get us a physical description once these start shipping. Not too 
many programs use function keys all that much these days. I mostly only use 
escape for vi in a terminal because command w is less finger movement and 
generally closes things most of the time. But volume control gets used a lot 
here, so how they implement that would be good to know. I'm sure nobody wants 
to knock their head off their ears or accidentally mute something. I'll not see 
this personally most likely for a bit since the current Mac is running lovely, 
but it's good to know. On a related note, if there was a good terminal app for 
iOS, I could probably get by with an iPad for most of what I'm doing.

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Re: Unable to expand and collapse thread with the left and right arrow keys

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I've seen this bug occasionally, and I'm not sure what causes it. When it 
happens, the only way to fix it seems to be either rebooting the machine or 
restarting both mail and voiceover.  I've seen a few other keyboard bugs as 
well that don't reproduce reliably, so I don't know what's going on with this.

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Re: Opinion: Correction, Sierra’s storage management tools are a complete disaster

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Just wow! Sounds like he had a really nasty experience. So I guess the best is 
to always keep a backup on something that is external and doesn't rely on Apple 
or anyone else's proprietary tools to access. Hopefully they fix this soon, as 
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Re: No more hardware escape key on upcoming MacBooks

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Yup, bluetooth keyboards for sure, but really they should just skip dictation 
and go straight to telepathy. Of course they wouldn't want to  do that since 
that would eliminate all their moneymaking tech. But I can think faster than 
type and I never have to correct a thought with autocorrect.

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Re: Downloading voices in Sierra

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On a related note, is there a voice on iOS or Mac OS that is more battery 
efficient or more responsive? I haven't found a way to measure this. VoiceOver 
doesn't show up in the battery status.

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Re: My plan for a clean install of Sierra

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He could, but he said he wanted a clean install. If you want to reinstall from 
a backup, you wouldn't need to format the drive, because time machine would 
sync it.

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Re: My plan for a clean install of Sierra

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That looks sane, just be careful that you don't  accidentally erase the 
recovery partition, just erase the HD volume. If you erase the recovery 
partition, it will drop you into internet recovery and you'll then have to 
start with the OS the machine came with before you upgrade to Sierra again and 
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Re: An iOS iBook VoiceOver Continuous Reading Bug, Detected, Please Confirm

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This is not a new bug here. It has been going on ever since I have been using 
ibooks, but I'll send in another report. I do the same as you when reading 
books and it's  annoying when they have hyperlinks that pause reading.

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Re: Apple discontinuing the iPod?

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If you are serious about music, there is no way is fits on these small devices. 
That's why I just said "screw it" and paid for the streaming service. Sure, it 
requires an internet connection, but you can get stuff offline if needed and if 
my connection screws up I've got bigger problems than music not working.

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Re: Dash vs Minus

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Fascinating.  You just gave us a new toy. Thank you!

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Re: Apple discontinuing the iPod?

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I did a search and found that the only discontinued ipods so far seem to be the 
iPod Classic and Mini ones. All the newer ones should still be supported.

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Re: Apple Music being a little quirky?

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I'll test this out and see what I get since I use Apple Music heavily as well, 
I just haven't been using the radio station feature a lot lately.

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Re: an observation: nuance voices on os x being rather sluggish?

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It's a problem here as well. Even the compact voices can be slow to respond. 

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Re: Whart will people use Siri for on the Mac?

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I don't find Siri to be useful on the phone, so I don't use it on the mac 
either. I also disable predictive text, all the autocorrect things and all that 
stuff. Haven't really found a use for any of it.

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Re: Sierra beta 10.12.1 and IOS 10.1 public beta 1 released

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I'm seeing this as well sometimes. It seems to be random, would also like to 
retract some stuff I said earlier about Mac OS updates. The kernel fixes are 
more obvious if you play with it a bit. I have had a bit of time to heavily 
load the system and run regular workload through it. Seems to be a large 
improvement even though I don't use a lot of the new   features. The universal 
clipboard thing is really neat though and the music fixes. And it takes more 
tabs to be open before Safari becomes unusable.
 Will report this bug if I can produce it consistently as well as one other 
bug. It seems if you have muted voiceover sounds, then you mute speech, when 
you unmute the speech it also unmutes the voiceover sound effects. This doesn't 
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Re: Dictation and speech with Sierra?

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I believe the dictation and speech settings have been moved to the keyboard 
preferences. It's another tab next to the input tab.

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Re: Verizon Fios or Vios and wireless performance

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You should expect whatever they gave you to be fairly crappy. They are not 
interested in giving you a good router. They just ship out the cheapest thing 
they have so it will be easier for tech support and such. Putting the modem in 
bridge mode and using your own router would be better. I did that here and then 
the ISP swapped out the modem with one that doesn't do routing because I 
insisted. If you can't bridge the modem you can just put your router's IP in a 
DMZ and that should do he same thing, but bridged mode is cleaner.

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Re: do i want firewire to ethernet or USB to ethernet?

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Yup. We're going to have dongles until they figure out how to make wireless 
actually not mean a loss in quality. 

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Re: do i want firewire to ethernet or USB to ethernet?

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We should all adopt some nonproprietary tech and be done yes. USBC maybe if 
that's an open standard. Or something else. Forcing people to one or 2 options 
is never helpful. At the rate they remove ports until we have free energy we're 
stuck with a lot of dongles it seems. 

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Re: do i want firewire to ethernet or USB to ethernet?

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Can you get lightning to ethernet? That'd be kind of cool for those times when 
you've got bad wifi.

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Re: macos sierra accessibility especially with braille how is it so far?

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I'm not hitting any issues with anything here. The copy and paste thing is neat 
but I don't use Siri so I can't comment on that. I might screw around with it 
just to see how well it learns things, but I don't need dictation enough to 
care, because often the times when it would be useful, it tends to be too noisy 
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Re: ABBYY FineReaderPro not compatible with OS Sierra yet

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At the rate they do updates these days, I wonder if we'll see 10.12.3.4?
 So many pointless features and so many updates, for so little improvement. 
They must be really bored.
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Re: How are you guys liking the new version of ITunes?

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Thanks for that. I think I'll order those because they stock replacement cables 
and ear pads. Streaming music is great for tuning out unreasonable people lol 
I'm glad iTunes updated that. I did notice that the more things you add to the 
sidebar the slower  iTunes is to respond to things.
 It's kind of a shame they don't have a setting to disable artwork. I'd think 
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Re: Braille input with hands on an I phone podcast?

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Make that 5 friends. Bluetooth keyboards and touch typing are handy. Sure it 
eats a bit of battery but it works.

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Re: 100+ iOS 10 Hidden / Secret Features For iPhone And iPad [

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I'd do that if it actually removed the files from the phone. That's really what 
I'm after. I figure if you're not using it it should disappear. :) Seems silly 
to just remove icons while wasting the storage. Presumably you didn't want to 
use the storage either.

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Re: to those of you who use braille input, how on earth do you do it?

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Well,  the whole thing feels a little weird actually since you don't  know when 
you have brailled an actual character as it were. It's probably something that 
we're not getting that is fairly simple since coordination and hand strength 
isn't an issue here. It'd be neat to make it work though, because it could be a 
lot quicker than the default onscreen keyboard for the times when the bluetooth 
one isn't handy. It's probably like dictation in that it's some sort of art.

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Re: to those of you who use braille input, how on earth do you do it?

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I wonder the same thing. I gave up on braille input and dictation and just use 
a bluetooth keyboard if I really need to type something longer on the phone.

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Re: How are you guys liking the new version of ITunes?

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Yup. They really should do that because I only ever use the music portion. I'd 
use it for podcasts, except downcast does that better. They should have file 
management and syncing in another app as well. The only reason I bother with 
iTunes is to sync or update the phone and listen to music. It should look like 
iOS where they have separate apps for everything. .

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Re: How are you guys liking the new version of ITunes?

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It's more clunky in some ways but the apple music layout seems a bit saner. 
Closer to iOS. Slight sound quality improvement as well. Need to find some 
actually decent headphones that aren't earbuds heh Do those exist? Getting a 
lot of  calls and music lately. iTunes wifi sync seems a bit more reliable as 
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Re: IOS10 Mail app changes

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I actually think Apple does better than the alternatives for accessibility. I 
don't have a clue what to do with  a lot of the new features and user interface 
changes. But there's an on / off switch for everything. If I ever find a use 
for these features I don't understand, then I can re-enable them. Just use what 
you like. These devices are trying to be made usable for what they believe to 
be the common user. I'm not that so I will not complain if I don't like the way 
something works. I'll just tweak things to work in a sane way and enjoy the 
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Re: 100+ iOS 10 Hidden / Secret Features For iPhone And iPad [

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I like Fred. It's very fast and responsive. It's just quieter than all the 
other phone sounds. But this is true in the Mac as well. Not sure why they have 
all these really human sounding voices. I'll use it for a bit and see how it 
goes. All the voices other than Fred and Alex are distorted if voiceover's 
rotor volume is at 100%. That seems rather odd. I guess that's a bug they still 
haven't fixed.  That doesn't occur on the Mac just the phone so it's weird.

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Re: Two real real quick questions about braille

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First question is that the letter sign goes before the capital sign. For the 
second one I believe you'd just put dot 6 before the c and another dot 6 before 
the p because you've only got 2 letters that need capitalized but I can check 
the rule book to be sure once I remember where I put it. 

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Re: Odd behavior in TextEdit and email

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Yes, this happens in edit fields all the time, I think it's something to do 
with the keyboard not waking properly after sleep but I could be wrong. I 
notice weirdness most often after waking the computer from sleep and 
occasionaly I've not even been able to type  the password to log in and had to 
restart the computer because the keyboard screwed up. Not sure if VoiceOver is 
responsible for that or if it's another bug. I think it's a general keyboard 
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Re: Apple Diagnostics Reports

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I've never received a response from Apple to anything at all whether it's a bug 
report or an email or a crash report that an app sends automatically. I think 
they all just go to a black hole. Sure, you'll get the generic form letter if 
you send feedback but I don't consider that a response.

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Re: Here is the Text of the User Manual for the Nearby Explorer, for iOS, GPS Navigation App

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I'm not seeing anything here that BlindSquare isn't doing except that they get 
map data from a different database. So I guess we'd have to get a demo to see 
why this is or is not worth the price.

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Re: Mac OS warning when in Upper Case

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My guess would be that you have unchecked the "announce when caps lock key is 
pressed" checkbox in the VoiceOver preferences. Are you getting other sounds 
from VoiceOver? Other sounds would be things like progress clicks and the 
different clicks when webpages load and stuff like that. So under the "sounds" 
tab in the VoiceOver preferences you can find the checkbox for muting voiceover 
sounds. Make sure that's unchecked. 

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Re: Question: How To Disable Auto-Complete in Safari in El Capitan?

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So we should all email bug reports asking  that it be put back because I have 
over 400 bookmarks  that it tries to autocomplete every time I type text and so 
it lags every time I use the address bar. 

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Re: Safari question

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Better would be putting something like this in your friendly search engine 
site:homedepot.com stuff you're looking for

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Re: Reading Large Text Files

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Some people find that Vim doesn't read as well as they'd like with VoiceOver. 
But TextMate is a similar graphical interface to TextEdit which is what I 
thought  he was looking for. VoiceOver tends to read the terminal a bit weird 
and sometimes doesn't track the cursor as well as one might like in Vim. Unless 
I've got something set wrongly, I'd rather use the terminal for that sort of 
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Re: Reading Large Text Files

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TextMate should do what you're after.  It might also help you code better too.

Here's a download link. Don't worry about the beta tag, it seems reasonably 
stable.
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Re: Disappointed with Voiceover

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I'm not seeing any problems with that website unless it's with the ordering or 
sign in stuff. I didn't actually sign in or order but everything read ok with 
Safari on OS X.

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Re: Concerned about Religious comments on list

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Yeah, I will apologize too for contributing to the public discussion. Should 
really not have pressed send on a couple of those I suppose. If anyone is 
offended they can take it up with me privately. Will return to read-only mode 
now. :)

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Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

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Yeah, I'm only disappointed that nobody emailed me off list with the logical 
argument I was hoping for. I'm here in realtime as well. I've got some 
distortions that need cleared up. It should be a fun and entertaining 
discussion methinks. :) I'm sure we can work the lack of function keys and 
touchbar; into this somehow as well. Maybe they'll have a mac that has a cuddle 
bar you have to squeeze to power it on soon too. That'd be kind of neat for 
some I'm sure. But this thread is quite comedic. I'm getting some good 
entertainment even though I am serious about asking for the logical arguments 
for those that believe. No I probably won't convert to anything but I think 
these things are worth contemplating.

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Re: bar instead of function keys on new Mac Book Pros?

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> On Jun 12, 2016, at 9:28 PM, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> What is this "blindness problem" everyone keeps talking about. I consider my 
> blindness to be a gift from god so if there was a way to reverse my 
> blindness, I wouldn't take it. 

If you have a mind to and you have a reasonable logical or philosophical 
argument for that statement, kindly write off list and explain. Several people 
have at one time or another  told  me that perceived disability is considered a 
gift but I've never got a clear, concise explanation of the thing. But it seems 
you have contemplated this so I'd be curious what your logic is.
 
Thank you.
Back to lurk mode now :)

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Re: Hosting a website on a Mac Mini?

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You should be fine with a good firewall and properly configured software. I ran 
a mail server for a long time on the same box as everything else and what 
you're doing is probably less annoying to configure than that. Just make sure 
everything you're using is updated and you should be good.

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Re: Iphone Se.

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Yeah, actually I don't like the smaller form factor I only got the SE because 
people were reporting better performance than the 6s+ and nothing I use 
regularly really needs the silly 3d touch gimmick as far as I could tell so it 
seemed silly to get that device.  Never mind that the so-called larger phone 
isn't significantly larger since it still fits in most pockets. Certainly these 
hands are too big to use a phone with one hand anyway whatever the size so it 
was all performance and battery life and such that I was going for. I had 
upgrade credit for the SE for free whereas the 6s+ was $400 plus a contract and 
I didn't think the extra feature was that important.

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Re: Iphone Se.

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Yeah, this SE seems to be 5s with a bigger battery and a large speed boost. 
Which TTS is best for performance and battery life anyway? Is there a way to 
measure this?

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Re: Iphone Se.

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I just upgraded to an iPhone SE. Only had it for a day but the battery life and 
quality for calls was very good so far and it's quite speedy. I was going to 
get the 6s+ but it didn't seem worth the trouble for 3D touch. But this works 
out rather nicely for the short time since I had it.

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Re: Working in iTunes on Mac

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I had the same question. Also appears to be a bug if you have several albums by 
an artist and you use the option right arrow key to go to the next album it 
doesn't always do that. I think we probably have to report these bugs.

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Re: Pdf reader and editor

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I got this to work here. It shows up and seems a little more accessible than 
preview. I have not tried to fill out a form with it as I don't have any of 
those here but the rest seems to work lovely.

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Re: clearing notifications on the mac

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Yes, it works but it's not intuitive because you have to interact with it then 
press it. Go to the table of notifications and then interact with it. The first 
thing is something that says "today" "clear button". It could be "yesterday" or 
something else too depending on how old the notifications you are dealing with 
happen to be. What you do is interact with the thing that says clear button and 
when you are on the "clear button" then activate that and it should work. I 
hope that made some sense.

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Re: Anyone else disappointed with the "big" apple event

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I think this seems to be a problem with society in general it's just more 
noticeable with Apple because of the number of innovations in the past. But I 
don't see how Windows or Android or anything else is really doing anything that 
anyone would call progressive. It seems to me we're just stuck in some illusion 
of progress because people really don't contemplate things all that much. I'm 
not really happy with any of the technologies at the moment.

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Re: tips for using Vocalizer voices

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Well, if it matters I have 8 GB of RAM and they still respond slower than Alex 
or Fred or others on this macbook pro so i doubt RAM or CPU is the issue at 
all. Pity there aren't more mechanical sounding responsive voices.

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Re: iBooks issue

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Yup. Same here. Works lovely in iOS but OS X iBooks is a useless waste of disk 
space. Someone said it could be internet issues but that's not the case here 
since speed test shows I'm actually getting slightly more throughput than 
advertised by the ISP. So I think they've just broken something.

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Re: alternative email programs on the mac?

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Do you use chrome for everything or just mail? Safari it seems is just as busy 
here as the mail app is sometimes though I have found keeping mailboxes 
uncluttered makes it less busy. The same goes for browser history and caches. 
If I keep the browser history clear and clear out the browser cache regularly 
then I find Safari is less busy. What's worth using in Chrome? The interface 
looked a bit odd when I last checked it.

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Re: iTunes not honoring album order

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Yah, the database Apple uses seems far too complex for what it's doing.  
Thanks. I'll take a look at this again. But I guess that's what they do when 
they need DRM and other cryptic functions.

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Re: iTunes not honoring album order

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Which views are the most useful for accessibility in iTunes? Album view for 
example, which is the default often doesn't show most of the stuff because it 
shows as dimmed. Also in addition to tracks being out of order sometimes Items 
in tables read differently than what is actually selected. Has anyone else 
noticed this? I had to use the undo button a few times after accidentally 
deleting albums. Yes, I could play around and experiment and see if there was 
something more accessible but I'm being lazy and asking here. :) thanks.

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Re: Any comments on Apple's position against unreasonable search

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And another quote from the creator of PGP, Philip Zimmermann: "If privacy is 
outlawed, only outlaws will have privacy."

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Re: Selecting text in Terminal

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I haven't tried this extensively yet but the few things I did paste worked out 
rather well. If you press command return instead of just return when you 
execute the command it marks the output. Then you can do command shift a and 
that will select marked output. and then command c to copy and command v to 
paste. 

















BASH(1)BASH(1)

NAME
   bash - GNU Bourne-Again SHell

SYNOPSIS
   bash [options] [file]

COPYRIGHT
   Bash is Copyright (C) 1989-2005 by the Free Software Foundation, Inc.

DESCRIPTION
   Bash  is  an  sh-compatible  command language interpreter that executes
   commands read from the standard input or from a file.  Bash also incor-
   porates useful features from the Korn and C shells (ksh and csh).

   Bash  is  intended  to  be a conformant implementation of the Shell and
   Utilities portion  of  the  IEEE  POSIX  specification  (IEEE  Standard
   1003.1).  Bash can be configured to be POSIX-conformant by default.

OPTIONS
   In  addition  to  the  single-character shell options documented in the
   description of the set builtin command, bash interprets  the  following

It seems to mark returns by default but play around with it and see if  that 
gets you further than you were before. I'll do some searches and see what else 
I find as I just discovered this now which is surprising since I'm a fan of the 
terminal.

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Re: What to do when cmd-f5 just dings?

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Yup, pretty serious bug I think. Also means that you don't get braille until 
you log in either or bluetooth audio and USB devices either.

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Re: Is iBooks Unusable in El Capitan

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I'm hitting the same issue here. iBooks is completely unusable and is always 
busy. I do not know what causes this. Also having an issue where the mac will 
randomly log itself out if it's under load. What fixes these?

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Re: Alex for the Mac and Correctness of Pronunciation

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Yeah, Alex voice does have rhythm and pronunciation inconsistencies but I 
notice different ones with different voices and still find all these voices too 
human sounding and a little bit too slow for my taste. But they're not going to 
get a DoubleTalk LT style voice for OS X and iOS  any time soon so it's a good 
thing I have braille as well.

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Re: Annoying pitch change bug when using Vocaliser.

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Does anyone know which is the most responsive on OS X and iOS respectively and 
which  is better for battery life on both platforms? Is there a way to get data 
on this? I notice that VoiceOver doesn't show up in battery usage. I would pay 
for a software Voice equivalent to DoubleTalk if I could get one. These voices 
particularly Alex sound too human to me. I'd prefer a really fast mechanical 
voice for the times when I don't have braille handy. Does anyone know of such 
Voices?

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Re: Something To Consider When Updating Your Mac

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I had no idea that had an impact. I'll try a reinstall here as I did activate 
voiceover during the installation and I do notice some weirdness here.  But 
that's an obscure bug that we should report if that is the case. They should 
find some other way to let you know the installation is done or still 
proceeding then if this is a problem.

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Re: Something To Consider When Updating Your Mac

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Except that it reboots part way through the install, if I recall it correctly 
then it does some progress bar thing which is inaccessible, which is what I 
think is being discussed here. So I don't recall it restarting after that 
completes.
 So the question seems valid still.  How to tell which stages of installation 
is it safe to use VoiceOver?

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Re: IOS 9.x strangeness

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Well, at least your not dealing with the iPhone refusing to stay signed into 
Apple services after reboots.
 Also networking on ios is now ridiculously slow expecially for secure 
connections. I thought it was the router but then I realize that LTE had the 
same problem. Then I realized that encrypted icloud services like the app store 
and itunes and ibooks  think they're signed in but actually don't connect. But 
if I load a web page in Safari for example or use Facetime and iMessage there's 
no problems at all connecting. I tried restoring the phone to defaults but the 
problempersisist so I guess I just call Apple and see what goes on.

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Re: IOS 9.x strangeness

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What was your resolution because it's annoying and damnably inconvenient. 
Because it's weird it thinks its signed out but it's actually signed in or vice 
versa I can't tell but it's not cool when I'm paying for services that aren't 
working. I could call Apple but if it's a simple fix I'd rather take care of it 
myself but I'm thinking it's on their end because it broke after an iOS 9 
update  and nothing I can think of will fix it. I know this router has some 
weird problems with multicast but I think I fixed that but then the problem 
persisted when I was on solid LTE and another router so I think maybe I got a 
corrupted database somewhere but why a restore didn't fix it bothers me unless 
I did the restore wrong. But I would've thought that erase all content and 
settings and dropping the phone in recovery mode and telling it to set itself 
up as new would be the hardest type of restore that is possible. And I sort of 
don't want to waste some Apple tech's time just to tell me to do stuff I've 
already done if it's  user error. I usually don't have any issues. I also had 
this Mac forget what drive to boot from. I shut it down cleanly then when I 
turned it on this afternoon it booted into  recovery mode. I've never seen that 
before. Maybe technology doesn't like me lately I don't know but this is weird.

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Re: ibooks is driving me crazy

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Yeah I can get menus but that's it. The reading area is always busy. Have I got 
something misconfigured on OS X? Are there certain settings for accessibility. 
I read all the ibooks on iphone because it reads flawlessly but the same level 
of access on os x would be lovely.  

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Re: ibooks is driving me crazy

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Ok, I have a few PDF's that I've just been using preview for. How is Adobe 
Digital Editions different? And how is Kobo different than Kindle or iBooks. 
I'm not a huge fan of Kindle because a lot of the books I'd like to read are 
only on free sample.
 But iBooks on the phone is lovely if I could just get the app store to stop 
signing in and out every reboot it'd be lovely too but restoring the phone did 
not fix that but that's another thread it's only related to this one because I 
had to click thrice to buy a book yesterday. :)

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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

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I'll look at that. I didn't know they serviced batteries. I thought they just 
meant you had to get a new phone.
 It seems to be behaving normally, this happened awhile ago but it seems to 
have resolved itself but I'll check the diagnostics and see if it shows up 
anything.

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Re: Calibrating The iPhone Battery

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Yeah, I'm not a scholar of batteries either but over time if you don't run the 
battery down to 0% periodically you may find that the fuel gauge gets out of 
sync. So you can have a situation for example when your battery charge says 0% 
but the phone is still working, or you can have 30% charge and a powered off 
device. So that's what your calibrating is the charge readout probably not the 
battery itself.
 I think you could get into situations too where if the gauge on the battery is 
out of sync with the cells, it might attempt to charge an already filled 
battery unnecessarily, but I think there is a few other checks to prevent that 
from happening. I'm not sure what programmatically goes on in battery 
management firmware.
  It is probably slightly different for every firmware.
 I don't calibrate batteries regularly but I had to do that once because the 
phone and computer were showing weird battery numbers.
I had them both showing 100% charge after a full 8 hours of heavy use. So maybe 
this clears up some things or if I'm misunderstanding something then we can 
find some decent answers and not get confused. I think battery firmware changes 
with every update too.
 Maybe this is related to the random reboots and failed sign-ins to icloud 
stuff after ios 9.1 updates, neither of which were fixed from a full restore 
from itunes but I don't know. But phone is very unhappy at the moment.

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Re: SetUp After OS Installation?

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I'd check system preferences / accessibility / display and check the "reduce 
Transparency" setting. That's supposed to kill a lot of the silly animations.

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Re: These Simple Facebook Shortcuts Will Save You Time

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Thanks, that's really helpful. I will have to take another look at the facebook 
page. I had been using the mobile site a lot but since they have these 
shortcuts that could save a lot of trouble.

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Re: Hotspots in El Capitan don't stick

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Yes, it's clearly a bug that should be fixed. I can duplicate that here too.  
I'll send them a note about it.

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Re: question about turning iCloud on for apple Music

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Yes, this is normal. What it's doing is making your music available for 
streaming by converting it to Apple Music format.
 If you had iTunes match it would leave the music in it's normal format. The 
only difference is that Apple Music format has DRM whereas iTunes match would 
get you standard AAC. You probably won't even notice the DRM either unless you 
attempted to play the music on a device which didn't let you sign in with your 
Apple ID. As far as I know all streaming services protect their music with DRM 
so this seems pretty standard.

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Re: Hotspots in El Capitan don't stick

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I'll test this as soon as I figure out what the use of these hot spot / web 
spot /window spot / content chooser things are for. Too many spotted things and 
I don't even know what you're supposed to use them for. What's the intent of 
these things precisely? Presumably it's to make things more efficient in some 
way but I'm not clear on why I'd want to use these.

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Re: Hotspots in El Capitan don't stick

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Yes, thank you. That explains a  lot I'll have to actually use these and report 
the bugs I find to Apple. It's nice that they have these features but sometimes 
it's not always clear what they're useful for. But I'll definitely play with 
these and see what comes of this.

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Re: Amazon Prime Music

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I'm glad you like your Echo. I know that Amazon music was reasonably sort of 
accessible with iOS when I played with it but there was no way I found to get 
the tunes to OS X since the app for OS X was completely inaccessible when I 
tried it a bit ago. So I'm not sure how you'd get your library imported 
properly on all devices. I'm sure someone else actually got it to work. I 
played with it for 5 minutes and that was only because I wanted to buy an album 
that was $72 on CD and not available on my friendly torrent search engine or in 
iTunes. Getting the album out of Amazon's cloud to the computer was a pain.  I 
ended up downloading each track one at a time from the website. Thankfully it 
was only 12 tracks or so. I have had no joy with the Kindle store either. Most 
of the books I would like to read end up being free samples unless I want to 
buy the hard cover. Also, I forgot my Amazon password, having only ever logged 
into it once, and when I went to recover it they had a bunch of captcha pages 
with no audio captcha and they were expecting me to call a toll free number for 
help. So that's more information than you probably wanted but I hope it helps 
you out and I hope that maybe you'll have a more joyful experience with Amazon 
than the one here.
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Re: Reminder: importance of reporting OS X braille problems

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Thanks for the encouragement. You're right it does get old. I'd rather fix them 
myself as I never feel good about nagging people about the same stuff. Yeah, I 
know it's a psychological  thing, but I always feel like I'm just bitching 
rather than helping something get fixed. Their form letter in response 
generally does nothing to help that. But, I will again attempt to formulate a 
polite half-decent bug report even if it's for no other reason than to fill 
their junk mail folder.

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Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

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I've been reading this thread and I'm trying this out but I have large hands 
and long fingers and a 5s and I'm not sure how to hold the phone to comfortably 
reach the dots. So it's clearly something you have to screw with for more than 
30 seconds to get to  work but I could see where it could be a really efficient 
input method at least until they fix the other input lag issues. The default 
keyboard is reliable but slow and I'd prefer this to dictation. So maybe I just 
need to waste a few charge cycles beating on it until I figure out the 
coordination?
 I'm going to upgrade the phone at some point for the fatter battery and larger 
screen and quicker processor but that still doesn't negate the question. It's 
good  of you to remind us that this is efficient. Not so sure about UEB but I 
might talk to you off list about that as it's possible that one is user error 
but it sure seems to have made a mess of this logic textbook lol
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Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

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Oh, ok, yes I was able to make it work similar to what you're describing. You 
are right that you do have to play with it a bit. I'll screw around with it 
until it works.

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Re: Incredibly irritating problem with braille input on I O S

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Yeah, it's just training fingers that takes a bit of time but I could see how 
you could get really fast input with that. I type more than I braille but touch 
typing doesn't really lend itself well to tiny devices.

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Re: Braille Support in OS X

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Yes, that's the biggest problem is no independent braille cursor and not enough 
customizations.  Also that would fix the cursor routing issues as well.

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Re: Braille Support in OS X

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I don't find dots 7 and 8 hard to read with text I just don't understand why I 
would need to know the position of the VoiceOver  cursor without knowing the 
positions of the system cursor. I think they should have separate braille and 
speech cursors as well as the system cursor. The user should be able to select 
which dot patterns represent what. This needs to be extremely customizable 
because the user is going to want to read braille differently depending on 
display size and reading ability and other things. Also something like BRLTTY's 
skipping of blank windows and sliding windows features would be lovely for 
small displays. BRLTTY will optionally remove white space and other screen 
areas that are just blank  and then try to fill as much of the display with 
text as it possibly can. This is good for when you're just reading a document 
like a book where you don't need to care about indentation or other formatting. 
You can toggle all this stuff on and off as needed.  I hope that made at least 
some sense, but if not feel free to ask more questions.

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Re: Best Way to Use Spotlight Search

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Yeah, you'd have to use grep to look inside files  so it saves an extra 
command. UNIX find will use the slocate and whatis databases as well for faster 
searches. I don't know how those compare with other spotlight indexes. It seems 
like a way to collect data more than help me find it and I'm usually fairly 
organized but I should probably screw around with and see what's what.

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Re: 10.11 and braille

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Thanks, I tried to word it reasonably well, and I'm glad at least some others 
are having the same issues. I guess all we can do is send feedback and maybe 
they'll pay attention.

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Re: 10.11 and braille

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Yeah, I can't test the misspelled thing because I turn autocorrect and 
predictive off on everything. And yet still some applications try to correct 
things or tell me about misspelled words but that's another thread.

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Re: 10.11 and braille

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I have  a display but I may be hitting different bugs than others so I wouldn't 
mind a list either. I have noticed that cursor routing is useless because there 
is no separate braille cursor or braille doesn't follow the system cursor it 
just moves the voiceover cursor which isn't what should happen. There's no way 
to tell if text is selected easily since dots 7 and 8 are used for the 
voiceover cursor as well as the highlighting of text. I don't understand what 
to do with these silly status cells at all. I turn them off on OS X and iOS 
because I don't understand how their information is at all useful especially on 
a small 18-cell display.
 Braille input is also equally useless on iOS and OS X because I braille too 
quickly and the driver appears to hang. I should also point out that I 
frequently work with autocorrect and dictation turned off because I still get 
input lag typing on qwerty as well but the braille translator makes input lag a 
lot.
I'd sell this braille display to someone if I could find one for a reasonable 
price that I could put under the laptop or keyborad since I don't like the 
braille input function at all because it doesn't work at all in a useful way.
 Also USB serial support is broken in OS X so that you cannot use your braillle 
display in USB mode  at least not with Refreshabraille even though the 
documentation claims it works. Bluetooth frequently drops on both iOS and OS X  
especially after sleep / wake so often the braille display will not connect at 
all and I have to revert to speech. Braille also doesn't work until after the 
user is logged in, nor does it work in recovery mode. There is no braille for 
emoji either.
 Some of this is probably user error because OS X and iOS  probably handle 
braille differently than BRLTTY which is what I used to use. I moved to OS X to 
avoid Windows because I generally prefer UNIX shells and things and I thought 
maybe Apple had better accessibility when I played with it and in general I'm 
not unhappy with that decision. But it seems to me that the computer industry 
in general is releasing poorly written software for all users and so I'm 
thinking every OS is badly written and buggy so I'm giving Apple a pass on that 
one. It seems people want things in this world that give the delusion of 
working but don't actually work and that is ok if that's what people want. So I 
expect it to be horribly broken because that's what sells and I'm surprised 
that in general Apple tends to be less horribly broken than other companies but 
I am sure it's a design decision since the focus seems to be on data mining and 
tracking and accessibility just doesn't help them collect data or advertise so 
it means nothing. And braille is the bottom of the stack when it comes to that.
 I wrote Apple Accessibility telling them that I've got a lot of time and I 
could learn their architecture and help with braille testing but I got a form 
letter saying that they'd look into the bugs I reported so I left it at that. 
But I would like to know how to get the most out of braille on either the phone 
or the mac because I prefer not to use speech  since it gets in the way of my 
creative process,  especially thanks to Apple Music  and several meditation 
apps being available   on all devices. Don't take any of this as criticism or 
negativity I'm willing to help but I don't know what's constructive.  I'm also 
betting that maybe I haven't explored something or don't fully understand some 
features so I'd be willing to take this off list  for extended conversation if 
someone wants  we could talk about how to get this stuff constructively fixed. 
I think Apple is trying to do the right thing I'm just not sure how we can help 
them.
 Yes it's a small user group but it might get larger very quickly if somehow we 
had easily accessible built-in working braille support to point people at. 
Sorry if this is a bit long I have only given the most  severe bugs I've 
noticed. There's probably more I'm sure but I'm assuming the ones I encountered 
were user error mostly but someone make a list of bugs and we can hack this 
out. Thanks for reading and have fun times. I'll go away now unless there's a 
reply.

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Re: Best Way to Use Spotlight Search

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I'm with you. I don't understand why I would use Spotlight when I could easily 
just use the UNIX find command from a terminal, or I know where my files. I've 
turned off all the spotlight options and turned off dictation and Siri because 
it gets things wrong pretty much all the time. I also turn off autocorrect and 
predictive text because I can type fast enough and all the autocorrect does is 
cause me to type the wrong word when I could've typed the right one without 
that feature. Does anyone care to explain what are the use of all these new 
features other than to making thinking superfluous? All this data monitoring 
stuff just seems creepy. But maybe there is a use for it? Why would I want to 
train the dictator and autocorrect if I can type it in just fine with a 
reasonable keyboard?
 None of this is meant as negativity I'm just wondering how to make use of 
these fancy algorithms without the machine thinking for me and being creepy. 
But it could be possibly just user error or user ignorance since I don't know 
what the intent of these things is exactly?


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Re: interesting observation with safari 9

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The only way I know of to back out of the beta program is to reinstall the Os 
to stable. Once you've done  that, go into system preferences > app store and 
find the change button next to prerelease updates. Click on that and disable it 
and then you won't see more beta updates. It will still list the previous 
prerelease updates as being purchased but it will not autoupdate you to them 
anymore. It's a bit of a pain  so get your backup disk handy and lay in a good 
supply of food and beverages as you're going to be there awhile.

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Re: El Kapitan.

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> On Sep 18, 2015, at 17:16, Shawn Krasniuk  wrote:
> 
> I've got a question for you guys. If you think El Capitan is a stupid name 
> for an OS, what would you rather have Apple call it? The only reason they 
> called it El Capitan is to make additions to Yosemite.

Why even have code names at all? You're going to have to give the exact version 
number at some point anyway, so what's wrong with, say 10.11, or 10.12? I'd 
think this would be problematic since a lot of these names are not simple to 
pronounce especially if your first language doesn't happen to be the same as 
the language of the code name? When 10.10 came out I noticed several people who 
use speech exclusively did not know how to spell Yosemite for example. Plus 
it's better for consistency since iOS has no code names at all, just a version 
number.

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Re: My thoughts on the Apple Public Beta Program

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I will not be enrolling in future betas most likely for the simple reason that 
although the beta program is good they ship developers different betas than the 
public which makes no sense to me at all! Never mind that I still don't 
understand why people are hesitant to discuss public beta software when it's 
actually public already and everyone can use it. Sure the final releases may or 
may not have all the features but still I don't get that restriction. Otherwise 
it's a good service and I'm glad I can make a list of all the things I need to 
turn off before I ruin a perfectly new phone's battery with these data tracking 
features so I'll thank them for that. :)

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Re: My music collection

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How did you go about removing the local music without removing it from your 
library? I'd like to do similar here as music is my largest data chunk and 
Apple Music has better quality versions of a lot of stuff that I had  plus this 
is obviously more convenient than trying to sync 300 GB of data between 
devices. I also notice that we seem to have got sound quality improvements in 
the latest music app on both iOS and OS X unless the ears are deceiving. So as 
a result I find I'm just as likely to use the phone for music as the computer, 
it's whatever device is handy for what I'm doing.

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Re: My music collection

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Interesting. It uploaded custom albums just fine here. I was able to stream 
several that aren't in Apple's collection. I'm not sure what tags it matches on 
maybe yours weren't tagged acceptably. I have some unknown albums that are 
improperly tagged that it won't stream but it uploaded them it just has no idea 
what to do with them. So someone needs to figure out what's an acceptable 
tagging rule for their algorithms. That is, what fields must be filled in for 
it to let you  play the music from all devices. I made an artist called Stuff 
with albums called Stuff0 and Stuff1 for some albums whose tracks I'm too lazy 
to look up titles for which aren't in the CD Database and those don't stream 
correctly I think it doesn't like several tracks called Track01 and Track02 and 
such.

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