Help with removing call recorder for face time on Mac

2015-07-17 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
After a 7 day trial of the call Recorder app for Facetime, I've decided not to 
purchase it because I wouldn't use it enough. It's a great app though.
Anyway, whenever I open Facetime on the Mac, or whenever I get a call, the 
your trial has ended now window pops up. The only options are buy now and 
not today. How do I get rid of the call recorder app altogether. There's an 
installer app for call recorder in my applications folder, but I don't know if 
that applies to my skype call recorder, which I want to keep, or this facetime 
one. I don't understand the Mac well enough to know how to uninstall something 
and stop this window coming up. Any wisdom greatly appreciated as ever.

Lisette

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Re: Continuity just doesn't work

2015-07-10 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Chris,
It has never worked for me either despite trying everything, so I've just given 
up on it. 
You're not alone. Apple just works right? haha Not always. I've stopped 
worrying about it, as life is simply too short.
Lisette

 On 11/07/2015, at 1:26 pm, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Tim, we have actually already tried every single one of your suggestions, and 
 are getting absolutely nowhere.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, July 10, 2015 10:35 AM
 Subject: Re: Continuity just doesn't work
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Not that this helps your situation at all, but the inability to convince 
 Apple that Continuity is broken is likely due to the fact that it isn't. Text 
 forwarding and Continuity calling works flawlessly for me.  Even at work when 
 I have my MBP plugged into ethernet, iPhone connected to enterprise WiFi, I 
 could be off in a different part of the building with each unit connected to 
 different network closets, and continuity calling works perfect.
 
 I suggest that you disable all the continuity features, then re-enable them 
 one at a time confirming that each works prior to moving on.  If it does not 
 apply, then try with a different unit, thus determining where the issues may 
 be.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Jul 9, 2015, at 15:17, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I have tried and tried and tried and tried and tried, and tried! to convince 
 Apple that Continuity was broken, as I have the same issue with calling and 
 receiving calls via my IPhone with continuity on my mac.  99% of the time, it 
 doesn't work.  I think I've gotten it to work, maybe once?  And the one time 
 I did, the volume level was horrifficly quiet, and I couldn't find any way to 
 turn it up, either.
 
 Good luck figuring this out, but admittedly, I'm not very optymistic at this 
 point.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Shaf shafpa...@gmail.com
 To: viph...@googlegroups.com
 Cc: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 5:07 PM
 Subject: Continuity just doesn't work
 
 
 Hi
 
 So I've followed the instructions on Apple's KB article on setting up 
 Continuity, but it just won't work.
 I have the option enabled on all devices, Bluetooth is enabled, everything 
 on same wi-fi network, all signed into the same iCloud account. When I'm 
 writing mail on Mac for example, I don't see a Continuity icon on iPhone's 
 App Switcher even though both devices are enabled.
 Any suggestions? I've tried logging out and into iCloud and resetting 
 devices but nothing.
 
 Another issue I have is with Text Message Forwarding: on iPhone under 
 Settings  Messages  Text Message Forwarding, it's only showing 1 Mac when 
 I have two Macs set up. I have all devices set up to use my phone number and 
 Apple ID, but only the most recent device to login to iMessage is shown. So 
 if I disable a Mac's iMessage account then re-enable, that device only shows 
 and same with the other Mac. Apple support have been useless. Any 
 suggestions or fixes would be hugely appreciated.
 
 
 -Shaf
 
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Re: textDetective versus knfbReader

2015-07-10 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I had text detective for a few years before KNFB reader became available. I got 
some useful results with it, but never entire documents such as bank 
statements. I would get bits of them, but not the whole thing. For me, KNFB 
Reader is definitely worth the price and eclipses Text Detective completely. 
KNFB reader is designed with blind people in mind, attempting to correct poor 
images taken by blind people who obviously can't see what they are trying to 
capture. I guess it depends on how much OCR on printed documents you are 
intending to do, but for me KNFB Reader has been worth it.

Lisette

 On 11/07/2015, at 7:51 am, Todor Fassl fassl@gmail.com wrote:
 
 KnfbReader is on sale today for $75. The normal price is $99. Is knfbReader 
 worth $75? I already own a license for textDetective. But I've heard that 
 knfbReader is much better. Is that true?
 
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Re: yosemite strangeness

2015-06-07 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Doesn't command option up arrow get you to the top of the messages list? It 
does for me in standard view.
Lisette

 On 8/06/2015, at 1:56 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 Now if only option+up-arrow worked for going to the beginning of the messages 
 list—Or rather, the top. 
 On Jun 6, 2015, at 2:39 PM, Grant grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Keep in mind that you don’t have to use VoiceOver commands at all to 
 navigate between the mailboxes list and the messages table. You can simply 
 use TAB and SHIFT+TAB. I have just verified that this works under Yosemite 
 when in classic view. This requires that you have gone into the Keyboard 
 pane in System Preferences, selected the Shortcuts tab, and enabled full 
 keyboard access.
 
 Grant
 
 On Jun 6, 2015, at 3:24 AM, John D. Lipsey johnl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi list:
 
 I'm almost ready to bite the bullet and upgrade my mac to Yosemite.  
 However, the strangest thing is stopping me.  I've observed it on 3 machines 
 at various places, but people don't seem to confirm that it's a thing.
 
 Note: The below behavior is unique to the standard view in mail, which I 
 prefer. It doesn't seem to happen in classic layout.
 
 In Mavericks, the mailboxes list, which I use quite frequently, is just a 
 couple of items off to the left of the messages column view once you stop 
 interacting with the messages column.  However, in Yosemite, it's a good 4 
 or so items to the right.  Visually, it seems it hasn't changed at all, but 
 voiceover seems to think moving to the right is now a good way to get to the 
 mailboxes list, even though visually it's still off to the left.
 
 This is enough to drive me batty, and the only thing really stopping me from 
 upgrading.  Is there a workaround for this incredibly odd behavior?  I can 
 probably learn to live with it, and I know I could do voiceover command T to 
 jump to the table, but that's kind of an awkward keystroke on a laptop, for 
 me personally.
 
 Thanks in advance for any insights into this.
 
 DFTBA!
 
 John D. Lipsey
 
 mail: johnl1...@gmail.com
 
 Twitter: @J_TGL
 
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Re: Files Sometimes Going into Subfolders in Save Dialogs

2015-05-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I get this behaviour too, even in column view sometimes. The Mac save dialogs 
confuse me quite a bit. It always feels a bit hit and miss. There's the pop up 
button and the side bar, and I never know for sure where things are being saved 
to. So you're not alone Alex. Sorry I can't help.

Lisette

 On 19/05/2015, at 5:09 am, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I've been using a Mac for some years now, and I consider myself to be quite 
 knowledgeable about OS X and VoiceOver. One thing I've never been able to 
 nail down, though, is this: why do files sometimes go where I tell them to in 
 OS X save dialogs, and sometimes end up in a subfolder inside the folder I 
 decide on? I always use List View, and normally, that works in the most 
 logical way: if you open a folder, things go in it. If you don't open it, 
 even if you're pointing to it, nothing goes in there. Sometimes, though, List 
 View will behave more like Column View, where pointing to a folder is enough 
 to make things go into that folder. If it were always one or the other I'd be 
 okay, but I can never know for sure if a file will go where I tell it or if 
 I'll need to start hunting through all the subfolders of that folder to find 
 where it went. Has anyone identified the reason this happens, and how to 
 always be sure files go where I want them? Again, this is in any OS X dialog 
 where you select a folder--save, export, save attachments, whatever it is. 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Apple Watch and Maps experience

2015-05-03 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Jenine,
What kind of phone are you using? David Woodbridge got his turns on his podcast 
just before the place to turn. Just wondered about what phone you are using and 
whether this makes a difference? Pure speculation as I don't have a watch.

Lisette

 On 4/05/2015, at 5:47 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 This is for donna and others wondering about how the Maps app works on both 
 the phone and Watch. 
 
 It seems, unless someone knows a trick I don’t, that if you just turn the 
 Maps app on in your phone, it does not automatically handoff to the Watch or 
 match the Maps App on the Watch in any way. 
 
 right now it seems all you can really do with the Maps app on the Watch as a 
 stand-alone is to get your position when standing still with a nifty visual 
 map plus street address. This is not particularly accurate either. The GPS 
 seems to be a bit lagging or like the last generation GPS receivers in the 
 old phones that used Mobile speak. 
 
 Now for the pairing/handoff feature. this is cool but again there is a 
 definite lag while walking. I was well past my turns before getting the 
 haptic or verbal feedback to turn. It did show my destination, my home, just 
 as I stepped onto my driveway which was good but the turns were really off. 
 
 The Maps app on the Watch is also invoked when you have an address in a 
 message or other app on the Watch and you either double tap it or do the 
 forced touch on it, depending on the app. This is the same as if you start 
 the direction process on your phone apparently as both seem to use Apple 
 Maps. 
 
 The handoff process is quick, maybe 2 seconds tops but then the GPS is slow 
 to keep up. 
 
 Right now the only GPS seems to be using Apple Maps. If anyone knows of 
 anything different, please shout out. 
 
 Oh and finally, I set the tracking option to “ON” for the Watch and “ON with 
 Headings” for the phone and it seemed to make no difference. 
 
 Can’t wait to hear other people’s experiences. 
 
 Oh and I’m beyond happy the Transit App is fixed so you can see the next bus 
 with VO! 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: Recording facetime calls

2015-05-02 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi again,
Thanks to Christopher for his instructions on using quick time. What's odd is 
that you can choose either internal microphone or external one if attached. If 
you choose the external mic such as the earbud mic, you can still faintly hear 
system sounds including voice over. Voice over is coming through the earphones, 
but it's sort of faintly being recorded as well. I'm presuming there's no way 
to record both system sounds and external mic at once, unless you use Audio 
Highjack right? Just getting my head around it all. Thanks.

Lisette

 On 7/04/2015, at 6:28 pm, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 And indeed you can record just audio. Open QuickTime Player, close the open 
 window then press control-option-command-n. Note you will have to use 
 VoiceOver's bypass command control-option-tab before this command will work. 
 Alternatively, choose new audio recording from the file menu.
 On 7 Apr 2015, at 07:24, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Try QuickTime or even Garage Band. If you want a recorder just for audio you 
 may consider Amadeus Lite or Pro depending on your needs. I suggest 
 QuickTime as it can record audio.
 On 7 Apr 2015, at 06:13, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi
 Is there a way to do this? I think audio highjack would be way too much 
 for my needs but I'd like to be able to record facetime calls occasionally 
 if possible. Thanks if anybody knows.
 
 Lisette
 
 
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

2015-04-28 Thread Lisette Wesseling
What happens if you're using neither device? Where do notifications go then?
Has anybody tried going for a walk with their watch while leaving the phone at 
home? Does it sync back up again without intervention? Does it add your steps? 
Still on the fence but curious.

Lisette

 On 29/04/2015, at 1:31 am, Sabahattin Gucukoglu listse...@me.com wrote:
 
 Yes, that entry just appeared on the Apple Support articles RSS feed so I 
 forwarded it on list.  Somebody’s ears (at Apple) were burning, obviously. :)
 
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Re: Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this exist?

2015-04-20 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Chris,
Sorry I don't know. I used to do some contract work for them producing braille 
letters, but don't have time anymore. They seem a pretty friendly bunch so 
perhaps you could contact them and ask how much it is for one letter.
Sorry I can't help. Braille was more expensive than print, but it wasn't 10 
pounds. They might have changed their pricing since I last worked for them.

Cheers
Lisette

 On 20/04/2015, at 8:12 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 By the way, they say 10 pounds minimal initial deposit.  Do you have any idea 
 how much each letter costs?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 3:34 PM
 Subject: Re: Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this 
 exist?
 
 
 Chris,
 I think what you need is
 www.l-mail.com
 You type in your letter, including address, and they print and send it in the 
 country nearest to where the recipient is.
 I hope this is what you need.
 
 Cheers
 Lisette
 
 On 20/04/2015, at 3:39 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 OK, but after looking at this page you provided, I'm slightly confused. This 
 looks like I upload my documents, submit them, they print them, then I go 
 pick them up at my nearest location.  That's not quite what I'm attempting 
 to do.  I want to never have to leave my home.  I want the whole thing to be 
 done for me.  I type up the letter, submit it, fill out the shipping to 
 address, make my payment, then have them print it out, and mail it for me 
 without me having to do anything further.
 
 If that is exactly what this does, then let me know and I'll look into it a 
 bit more thoroughly.
 
 Sorry for the confusion.
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message - From: george b
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:17 AM
 Subject: RE: Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this 
 exist?
 
 Find the one you want to use near you and it will be done
 
 See link below
 
 http://local.fedex.com/wa/lynnwood/office-5542/?cmp=LOC-1001545-3-1-971-111-US-US-EN-GPLCOPYANDPRINT
 
 
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 07:57
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this 
 exist?
 Importance: High
 
 Guys,
 
 Even if I have to pay a small fee for this, I'm very much willing to do so 
 within reason, and am totally 100% prepared to do so.
 
 Here is the very most basic of the situation  without going into a lot of 
 detail.  I need to send a letter to someone.  The issue is, they do not 
 check their e-mail hardly at all.  This however is a letter that needs to 
 be written.  Again, I would much rather not go into the specifics.  I will 
 however at least give you this much information...  no.  It's is not legal 
 related in any way, and there is absolutely nothing legally binding that 
 says I cannot write this person.  It's nothing like that, as much as it's 
 just that they most likely 99.999% chance will not see my e-mail. Trust me. 
  Physically mailing a hard copy letter would be more reliable. I definitely 
 do have their address.  The question that I have is, I don't have a 
 printer, and even if I did, I don't have a very reliable way to address the 
 envelope.  I'd have to basically have someone help me do so. The thing is, 
 due to certain circumstances, the people who would help me address the 
 letter, as well as print it out for me are very very nosy, and have been 
 known in the past to read my mail, without my prior concent.  Yeah, I know, 
 downright illegal.  I'm not even touching that one.  The point is of this 
 message, does anyone know of a web site which would be accessible with 
 Voiceover that I could use to either A, type my letter directly into the 
 web site, or B, upload it as a word document, or text document, etc. then 
 type the address to be sent to, pay a small printing/shipping cost, 
 securely check out, then have this service basically print and mail the 
 letter on my behalf.  I'd say on average, this letter won't be more than 
 probably 2, maybe! pushing it, 2 and a half 8 by 11 pages long.  We're not 
 talking a huge huge lengthy letter here.
 
 I don't have very good access to a public library nor post office to ask 
 for help.  I'm kind a in a rural area.  Otherwise, I would.
 
 Does anyone have any thoughts?
 
 Chris.
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Re: Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this exist?

2015-04-19 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Chris,
I think what you need is 
www.l-mail.com
You type in your letter, including address, and they print and send it in the 
country nearest to where the recipient is.
I hope this is what you need.

Cheers
Lisette

 On 20/04/2015, at 3:39 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 OK, but after looking at this page you provided, I'm slightly confused.  This 
 looks like I upload my documents, submit them, they print them, then I go 
 pick them up at my nearest location.  That's not quite what I'm attempting to 
 do.  I want to never have to leave my home.  I want the whole thing to be 
 done for me.  I type up the letter, submit it, fill out the shipping to 
 address, make my payment, then have them print it out, and mail it for me 
 without me having to do anything further.
  
 If that is exactly what this does, then let me know and I'll look into it a 
 bit more thoroughly.
  
 Sorry for the confusion.
  
 Chris.
  
 - Original Message - 
 From: george b
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 11:17 AM
 Subject: RE: Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this 
 exist?
 
 Find the one you want to use near you and it will be done
  
 See link below
  
 http://local.fedex.com/wa/lynnwood/office-5542/?cmp=LOC-1001545-3-1-971-111-US-US-EN-GPLCOPYANDPRINT
  
  
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland
 Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 07:57
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Maybe a stupid question, but does a web site service like this 
 exist?
 Importance: High
  
 Guys,
  
 Even if I have to pay a small fee for this, I'm very much willing to do so 
 within reason, and am totally 100% prepared to do so.
  
 Here is the very most basic of the situation  without going into a lot of 
 detail.  I need to send a letter to someone.  The issue is, they do not 
 check their e-mail hardly at all.  This however is a letter that needs to be 
 written.  Again, I would much rather not go into the specifics.  I will 
 however at least give you this much information...  no.  It's is not legal 
 related in any way, and there is absolutely nothing legally binding that 
 says I cannot write this person.  It's nothing like that, as much as it's 
 just that they most likely 99.999% chance will not see my e-mail.  Trust me. 
  Physically mailing a hard copy letter would be more reliable.  I definitely 
 do have their address.  The question that I have is, I don't have a printer, 
 and even if I did, I don't have a very reliable way to address the envelope. 
  I'd have to basically have someone help me do so.  The thing is, due to 
 certain circumstances, the people who would help me address the letter, as 
 well as print it out for me are very very nosy, and have been known in the 
 past to read my mail, without my prior concent.  Yeah, I know, downright 
 illegal.  I'm not even touching that one.  The point is of this message, 
 does anyone know of a web site which would be accessible with Voiceover that 
 I could use to either A, type my letter directly into the web site, or B, 
 upload it as a word document, or text document, etc. then type the address 
 to be sent to, pay a small printing/shipping cost, securely check out, then 
 have this service basically print and mail the letter on my behalf.  I'd say 
 on average, this letter won't be more than probably 2, maybe! pushing it, 2 
 and a half 8 by 11 pages long.  We're not talking a huge huge lengthy letter 
 here.
  
 I don't have very good access to a public library nor post office to ask for 
 help.  I'm kind a in a rural area.  Otherwise, I would.
  
 Does anyone have any thoughts?
  
 Chris.
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Re: Well, I did it, Pre-ordered the Apple watch!

2015-04-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Donna,
What size did you get? I don't know what size wrist/hands you have, but what 
did you think of each of the sizes?
I'd love to see one, but no chance of that here in New Zealand for goodness 
knows how long. We don't have actual Apple stores here so we don't know which 
Apple re-sellers will be selling it here.

I'm on the fence about buying one. I don't really like talking watches so 
probably it wouldn't be a good buy for me. I'm still curious though. Definitely 
something I want to feel before I buy it.

Lisette
 
 On 19/04/2015, at 8:22 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 I had a chance to go into an Apple store this morning, so decided to take a 
 look at the Apple watch.  I was very interested in it, but not sure what I 
 would think, based on the mixed reviews I've seen.  It was hard to tell much 
 because they weren't able to demo voiceover, but I liked the form factor, and 
 thought the stuff I was hearing from the video demo was pretty cool.  Since I 
 have fourteen days to return it if I don't like it, I decided to go ahead and 
 pre-order one.  I just got the aluminum sports model, because I figure it's 
 highly likely that I'll want to upgrade when newer generations are released, 
 so didn't see the sense in shelling out the extra $200.  Looking forward to 
 its arrival and getting to actually put it through its paces.
 Cheers,
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Re: Help please! My MacBook is not turning on

2015-04-16 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Are you sure it's not turning on? Could speech just be muted?
Do you hear anything when you command tab around?

 On 17/04/2015, at 10:50 am, Ezzie Bueno ezziebu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello friends:
 
 The subject says it, my MacBook is not turning on, despite the charger being 
 plugged in. The last time I used it, I only shut the lid for the night and 
 the next day it wouldn't power on. I plugged it into the charger thinking 
 that it might have died, but it still doesn't turn on. I've tried using 
 different outlets, and different chargers and I get no results. What advice 
 do you have for me that I could try? And by the way, this is a MacBook Pro 
 2012.
 Any help is greatly appreciated. :-)
 
 Thanks,
 Ezzie
 
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Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements

2015-04-15 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Oh thanks George. I thought it was to do with the preview app on the Mac. I 
understand now and thanks. I think others may have been confused too.

Cheers
Lisette

 On 16/04/2015, at 9:34 am, george b gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 No the office you have on your mac if you have 365 is version 14.xxx,  the 
 one we are talking about is office 16 which is in as you would call beta 
 which Microsoft is now in the beta preview stage thus the name preview.
 
 You can use preview along side office 2011 for mac, and you do not have to 
 sign in with any account to use it.
 
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 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lisette Wesseling
 Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 14:06
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements
 
 Hi,
 If I download MS Word for Mac using my Office 365, will I get this 
 accessibility everybody is talking about. I'm a bit confused with it being 
 called a preview app.
 Is installing Word on the mac accessible?
 
 Lisette
 
 On 16/04/2015, at 7:05 am, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 The Office 2016 Preview can be directly and officially downloaded from 
 Microsoft. Here is the link: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=523849
 
 As others have mentioned, once downloaded and installed, updates can be 
 installed by opening any of the Office apps, accessing the help menu, then 
 choosing “check for updates”.
 
 To view more information about the Preview, access this link: 
 https://products.office.com/en-us/mac/mac-preview
 
 To access the release notes for the April 14th update that includes improved 
 VoiceOver accessibility, access this link: 
 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3048768
 
 I can confirm that basic VoiceOver accessibility support is now present in 
 Microsoft Word. Tables are recognized, though I did experience issues with 
 entering and leaving them as well as reading their contents. Certainly it is 
 not as simple as merely arrowing through a Word document, entering a table, 
 and using TAB and SHIFT+TAB to move through cells as Windows users might be 
 used to doing. The issue may well be simply that I’m not familiar with the 
 app. I haven’t had time to check out the new Excel or PowerPoint yet, but 
 Outlook has been pretty accessible for a while now. Ultimately, while there 
 is surely room for improvement, this is huge news. I’m excited now that as 
 VoiceOver users, we’ll be able to play with the preview apps and submit 
 feedback to Microsoft throughout the beta cycle, and such feedback will now 
 be more than “it doesn’t work”. :)
 
 Cheers!
 
 Grant
 
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Re: Office 16.9 accessbility improvements

2015-04-15 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
If I download MS Word for Mac using my Office 365, will I get this 
accessibility everybody is talking about. I'm a bit confused with it being 
called a preview app.
Is installing Word on the mac accessible?

Lisette

 On 16/04/2015, at 7:05 am, Grant Hardy grant.li...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 The Office 2016 Preview can be directly and officially downloaded from 
 Microsoft. Here is the link: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?LinkId=523849
 
 As others have mentioned, once downloaded and installed, updates can be 
 installed by opening any of the Office apps, accessing the help menu, then 
 choosing “check for updates”.
 
 To view more information about the Preview, access this link: 
 https://products.office.com/en-us/mac/mac-preview
 
 To access the release notes for the April 14th update that includes improved 
 VoiceOver accessibility, access this link: 
 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3048768
 
 I can confirm that basic VoiceOver accessibility support is now present in 
 Microsoft Word. Tables are recognized, though I did experience issues with 
 entering and leaving them as well as reading their contents. Certainly it is 
 not as simple as merely arrowing through a Word document, entering a table, 
 and using TAB and SHIFT+TAB to move through cells as Windows users might be 
 used to doing. The issue may well be simply that I’m not familiar with the 
 app. I haven’t had time to check out the new Excel or PowerPoint yet, but 
 Outlook has been pretty accessible for a while now. Ultimately, while there 
 is surely room for improvement, this is huge news. I’m excited now that as 
 VoiceOver users, we’ll be able to play with the preview apps and submit 
 feedback to Microsoft throughout the beta cycle, and such feedback will now 
 be more than “it doesn’t work”. :)
 
 Cheers!
 
 Grant
 
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Re: IoS 8.3, strange behavior

2015-04-11 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Yes I can confirm this with an iPhone 6. I still hear 3 of 5 bars next to it, 
but the network name is not spoken. Very odd. 

Lisette

 On 11/04/2015, at 7:15 pm, Shen goalb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I updated my iPhone 6 yesterday to iOS 8.3 and immediately noticed something 
 a little strange. It doesn't affect how iOS or the phone works, but the fact 
 that this is even possible is very strange, and a little funny.
 
 If you updated your phone to iOS 8.3, try the following:
 First, remember that at the top of the screen, where your status is, 1 of the 
 items is your network. This tells you the name of the network you are using, 
 ATT, Verizon, Virgin Mobile, etc.
 Now open 1 of the following apps: Calendar, Notes, Weather, Music, Photos, or 
 Reminders. These are the apps I've tested so far.
 With 1 of these apps open, now check your network name again. Does VoiceOver 
 still say the name of your network?
 Mine does not. Visually, my phone is still showing the name of my network. 
 But VoiceOver says, Swipe down with 3 fingers to reveal the Notification 
 Center. Swipe up with 3 fingers to reveal the Control Center. Double tap to 
 scroll to top.
 
 So far, I've been able to verify this rather interesting behavior with 3 
 iPhone 6's. I'm going to try it on a 6 Plus shortly.
 
 I'd like to know if anyone else is haring VoiceOver saying the same thing to 
 them.
 
 Might be another call to Apple Accessibility.
 
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Re: I'm not disappointed but am looking forward.

2015-04-11 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Eileen,
My understanding is that there is no Siri voide, but that voice over will read 
the Siri text. So you will hear Siri speak in whichever VO voice you have 
chosen, but not in the usual siri voice.

 On 12/04/2015, at 8:44 am, Eileen eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 I have been back from the Apple store for a little bit and trying to digest 
 all that I have seen. I have a couple of question; that I didn't think of 
 when I was there. 
 
 1. Is the sapphire glass only on the Apple watch and not on the sports model? 
 2. Is the bracelet that you purchased separately the one that has the 
 magnetic clasp?
 3. Does anyone know if one will be able to change the Siri voice?
 
 The salesperson that assisted me had little knowledge about VO and which 
 voices would be on the watch. She stated that the gestures would be the same, 
 the battery life would be the same between the 38 and 42 mm screens (which 
 remains to be seen), and that the scrolling speed  with the crown  would be 
 controlled on how fast one moved it. Of course, like everyone else who has 
 physically gone to a store to try them on, VO couldn't be demo because these 
 are only demo models and couldn't be paired to a phone. I look forward to 
 reading others experiences. 
 
 Cheers,
 Eileen
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Apr 11, 2015, at 10:16 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hello.
 
 Just got back from the Apple store, after a Taxi ride, train ride and a 45 
 minute walk.
 
 So the representative took me to the table and bought the selection of 
 watches to me.
 
 Before I felt the watches, I asked him if he could enable voice over for me. 
  He told me that all the watches were demos and there was a set demo 
 program.  He said that Accessibility was not on these watches.  When I asked 
 him why, he said he could not tell me.
 
 So first of all, I took the silver sports watch in my hand.  The watch was 
 very light.  In fact, it felt like a normal sighted watch, something that a 
 woman would wear.  The 38 Millimetre watches are for women.  I thought it 
 very elegant and for the fact that I could remove the straps myself without 
 having to go to a jewellers was a plus for me.  If a strap was broken for 
 instance, you'd pay at least £3.99 to get another strap.  I also felt the 
 melanese bracelet.  I asked if one could buy the bracelet if you had a 
 sports watch and they said yes.  I then felt all the straps and the 
 stainless steal watch.  That I thought was definitely for a man as it was 
 heavier and thicker.  The person told me that it was thicker because of the 
 crystal saffire glass.  
 
 My only disappointment was that I could not hear voice over.
 
 The person who said that the steal watch felt like a toffee, I could 
 understand that and I'd not go for that model.
 
 I'm going to purchase the Silver sports watch along with the Bracelet.
 
 For those of you who are not in favour of the watches, do not have to buy.  
 I know someone who said to me that they were not going to buy the watch, but 
 low and behold, is getting the watch now.  I knew he would.
 
 Now I've seen the watch, I'm looking forward to mine.
 
 I'm not mad on Apple products but like Apple because of the accessibility 
 built in.  If I were sighted, I'd have a choice of what I could have as my 
 gadgets but for the fact, I am limited as to what I can have, i.e. a Braille 
 watch, or a normal conventional talking watch.  I had a Braille watch for 
 than 20 years but they would always go wrong, perhaps because of my hair or 
 my dog's hair, I don't know.
 
 I hate the conventional speaking watch because of the voices.  If Alex is on 
 my Apple watch then I'll be pleased.
 
 Just one more thing to ponder, can you pair a braille display as the watch 
 has bluetooth!
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: OS X 10.10.3 and Time Machine

2015-04-10 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Yes I can confirm this. My time machine backup today took much less time than 
usual.

Lisette

 On 11/04/2015, at 11:40 am, Agent086b agent0...@internode.on.net wrote:
 
 Hi,
 anybody found Time Machine much faster since installing OS X 10.10.3? I 
 backup to Time Machine about 2 - 3 times per week to a USB drive. The rest of 
 the time I rely on an online backup. I backed up today 8gb and it took no 
 time at all. 
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Call Recorder for face time

2015-04-09 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
To those who use this, after initially configuring it, how can you get back to 
this screen while running the programme? I'm only on the demo version, so maybe 
it comes up when you pay for it.
Can you record audio only on a video call?
Call Recorder for skype puts its settings in the preferences, but I can't see 
this on the face time version.
Thanks if anybody knows.

Lisette

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Re: Recording facetime calls

2015-04-07 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Thanks ray and Chris. I've got call recorder for skype and love it. I'll go to 
their website and get the other one if quick time proves too cumbersome, which 
it might not. I like how call recorder just starts automatically if you set it 
up that way.
Thanks.

Lisette

 On 7/04/2015, at 11:12 pm, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Sure, I use Call recorder for Facetime.  Keep in mind that it costs, but, is 
 well worth it.  Call recorder for Skype is easy too.  Totally accessible. Not 
 in the app store BTW.
 
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
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 wrote:
 
 Hi
 Is there a way to do this? I think audio highjack would be way too much for 
 my needs but I'd like to be able to record facetime calls occasionally if 
 possible. Thanks if anybody knows.
 
 Lisette
 
 
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Recording facetime calls

2015-04-06 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi
 Is there a way to do this? I think audio highjack would be way too much for 
 my needs but I'd like to be able to record facetime calls occasionally if 
 possible. Thanks if anybody knows.
 
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Re: VoiceOver very sluggish when changing languages

2015-03-30 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Mike,
I had this problem in Mavericks as well and actually find it slightly better 
now in Yosemite. I switch from English to Dutch. I did get a new and faster Mac 
though so maybe that's why it's better. 

Lisette

 On 31/03/2015, at 1:45 am, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I have been meaning to bring this up for quite some time, but I keep 
 forgetting. 
 
 I have been noticing that whenever I switch from one language to another, 
 VoiceOver is very, very slow to load the new language and voice it.  When I 
 switch from English to German, for example, I sometimes have to wait at least 
 five seconds before the change is made.  Has anyone else experienced this 
 phenomenon, and is there a remedy?  In earlier versions of the OS, this 
 problem did not occur.
 
 Thanks in advance for your insights,
 
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Re: How do you update Adobi on the Mac using VO?

2015-03-27 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Tim,
I re-downloaded the file just now which had a different file name and got me a 
lot further with installing flash player.
I got as far as agreeing to the license terms. When I press vo space on the I 
agree check box to check it, I'm thrown out of the installer and back into 
finder. It's as if I pressed the quit button which I didn't. 
Do you get this problem, and how do you get around it?
Thanks so much.

Lisette

 On 27/03/2015, at 10:12 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That Installer Helper HTML area should not be empty.  IF you Interact with 
 it, VO usually can read info about what’s going on.  It’s the only area that 
 is usually of any use to you.  If there are any apps open like Safari, 
 Chrome, System Preferences etc, that use Flash in some manner, they will need 
 to be quit, otherwise, Flash won’t finish installing.  As mentioned, I often 
 get a message about FlashBridge Cross Platform needing to be quit and the 
 only way I’ve found to do that is through the Activity Monitor since it is 
 not really an app.
 
 A few questions:
 
 • Do you have an item called Flash Player in your System Preferences?
 • If so, what version does it say you have installed?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:40, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Tim and anybody else who can help,
 I am having immense difficulty installing flash. Is the installer really 
 buggy or something?
 I'm at the point where I've downloaded the disk image. I open the installer 
 app. I'm warned about this and I continue. I'm asked for my computer username 
 and password which I type in and press enter. I get a window called adobe 
 flash player installer. Next to this is an installer helper html area which 
 is empty. That's all. There's a close button and nothing else, and nothing 
 seems to be installing. 
 I've tried going through system prefs again to re download it. I hit the 
 download link and nothing downloads. Any ideas?
 
 Lisette
 a 
 On 27/03/2015, at 7:33 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There was a discussion about this just a few days ago on this list.  A few 
 varied but similar responses.  The basic gist, if it’s Flash,
 
 • Go to System Preferences.
 • Press on the Flash button.
 • Select the Advanced pane.
 • Interact with the Scroll area.
 • Navigate to the Check Now button and press it.
 • If there’s an update available, you will be told in a dialog at this 
 point.  Choose Update.
 
 This will take you into your browser and directly to the latest Flash 
 installer.  I usually just press tab until the Install Now link is read, 
 then I press return.  It will then download to your Downloads folder and you 
 can open the .dmg file and run the installer package from there.  If Safari 
 or another Flash needing app is running, the installer will pause asking you 
 to quit them all.  Sometimes there’s a “Force Close All”, sometimes not.  If 
 the “Flash Bridge Cross Platform” service is running, you’ll need to quit 
 that process from the Activity Monitor app which is located in the Utilities 
 folder.
 
 Other than that, the only thing you may need to do is use VO-shift-space to 
 activate a button while in the Flash Installer as the regular VO-space 
 doesn’t work for these buttons.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:11, Eleanor Roberts 
 eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 I think it's the Adobi Flash Player, but I'll find out more accurately for 
 you. Sorry I can't be more  help yet, but quite frankly I don't really know 
 what he's on about as I don't use it. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Which Adobe product is he using?
 
 Best.
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 09:37, Eleanor Roberts 
 eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all 
 
 I'm asking this  on behalf of a friend. He has a Mac, and uses Adobi an 
 awful lot to listen to media files (radio etc I believe). Anyway, he wants 
 to update Adobi but doesn't know how to do it on his Mac using VO, as this 
 is the first time he's had to update since getting the computer. So was 
 wondering if someone who does know could send me some instructions  whichh 
 I could pass on to him on how to do this? 
 
 Many thanks. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: How do you update Adobi on the Mac using VO?

2015-03-27 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Tim and David,
Thanks for your suggestions. Pressing space bar on the license check box and 
then on the install button certainly got me further. I then type in my computer 
password, press ok, and then the installer just says installer ready and 
there's a close button and a done image, with no area to interact with so no 
progress bar to check if it's actually installing. I guess I'll just do without 
flash as I can't figure out how to use this   very odd installer.
Thanks for your help though. I do appreciate it.

 On 28/03/2015, at 9:49 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 In addition to David’s comments, in lots of Adobe installers, you can often 
 just use the space to check boxes like that and use your tab to navigate 
 around if VO doesn’t work normally.  It’s good to have a toolbox full of 
 options when your normal VO commands don’t seem to result in what you want.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 14:23, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Although I have not had this exact problem generally on Adobe Flash installs 
 I encounter 2 problems.
 1. You tend to have to use shift vo space to activate the buttons. so it 
 might be worth doing this as well to see if it prevents you being dumped out 
 of the install app..
 2. The install tends to throw up helper htm windows with messages like 
 close Safari to complete the install and other things. These can remove focus 
 from the install app so you need  to use Window Chooser to interact with 
 these windows and respond to them.
 
 David Griffith
 rto On 27/03/2015 19:22, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
 Hi Tim,
 I re-downloaded the file just now which had a different file name and got me 
 a lot further with installing flash player.
 I got as far as agreeing to the license terms. When I press vo space on the 
 I agree check box to check it, I'm thrown out of the installer and back 
 into finder. It's as if I pressed the quit button which I didn't.
 Do you get this problem, and how do you get around it?
 Thanks so much.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 27/03/2015, at 10:12 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That Installer Helper HTML area should not be empty.  IF you Interact with 
 it, VO usually can read info about what’s going on.  It’s the only area 
 that is usually of any use to you.  If there are any apps open like Safari, 
 Chrome, System Preferences etc, that use Flash in some manner, they will 
 need to be quit, otherwise, Flash won’t finish installing.  As mentioned, I 
 often get a message about FlashBridge Cross Platform needing to be quit and 
 the only way I’ve found to do that is through the Activity Monitor since it 
 is not really an app.
 
 A few questions:
 
 • Do you have an item called Flash Player in your System Preferences?
 • If so, what version does it say you have installed?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:40, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Tim and anybody else who can help,
 I am having immense difficulty installing flash. Is the installer really 
 buggy or something?
 I'm at the point where I've downloaded the disk image. I open the installer 
 app. I'm warned about this and I continue. I'm asked for my computer 
 username and password which I type in and press enter. I get a window 
 called adobe flash player installer. Next to this is an installer helper 
 html area which is empty. That's all. There's a close button and nothing 
 else, and nothing seems to be installing.
 I've tried going through system prefs again to re download it. I hit the 
 download link and nothing downloads. Any ideas?
 
 Lisette
 a
 On 27/03/2015, at 7:33 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There was a discussion about this just a few days ago on this list.  A few 
 varied but similar responses.  The basic gist, if it’s Flash,
 
 • Go to System Preferences.
 • Press on the Flash button.
 • Select the Advanced pane.
 • Interact with the Scroll area.
 • Navigate to the Check Now button and press it.
 • If there’s an update available, you will be told in a dialog at this 
 point.  Choose Update.
 
 This will take you into your browser and directly to the latest Flash 
 installer.  I usually just press tab until the Install Now link is read, 
 then I press return.  It will then download to your Downloads folder and 
 you can open the .dmg file and run the installer package from there.  If 
 Safari or another Flash needing app is running, the installer will pause 
 asking you to quit them all.  Sometimes there’s a “Force Close All”, 
 sometimes not.  If the “Flash Bridge Cross Platform” service is running, 
 you’ll need to quit that process from the Activity Monitor app which is 
 located in the Utilities folder.
 
 Other than that, the only thing you may need to do is use VO-shift-space 
 to activate a button while in the Flash Installer as the regular VO-space 
 doesn’t work for these buttons.
 
 HTH

Re: How do you update Adobi on the Mac using VO?

2015-03-27 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Oh looks like it installed after all. I'm now running the latest update 
according to system prefs. It was not clear anything had actually happened 
during the installation. 
Pressing space bar on the buttons certainly helps. And you can't always rely on 
vo f 5 to tell you the truth either. It said the button in question wasn't 
under the mouse, but when I pressed space bar on the button it did activate the 
button I was trying to activate. So something weird is going on there.
Thanks for your help guys. I'll know what to do for next time.

Cheers
Lisette

 On 28/03/2015, at 9:49 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 In addition to David’s comments, in lots of Adobe installers, you can often 
 just use the space to check boxes like that and use your tab to navigate 
 around if VO doesn’t work normally.  It’s good to have a toolbox full of 
 options when your normal VO commands don’t seem to result in what you want.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 27, 2015, at 14:23, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Although I have not had this exact problem generally on Adobe Flash installs 
 I encounter 2 problems.
 1. You tend to have to use shift vo space to activate the buttons. so it 
 might be worth doing this as well to see if it prevents you being dumped out 
 of the install app..
 2. The install tends to throw up helper htm windows with messages like 
 close Safari to complete the install and other things. These can remove focus 
 from the install app so you need  to use Window Chooser to interact with 
 these windows and respond to them.
 
 David Griffith
 rto On 27/03/2015 19:22, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
 Hi Tim,
 I re-downloaded the file just now which had a different file name and got me 
 a lot further with installing flash player.
 I got as far as agreeing to the license terms. When I press vo space on the 
 I agree check box to check it, I'm thrown out of the installer and back 
 into finder. It's as if I pressed the quit button which I didn't.
 Do you get this problem, and how do you get around it?
 Thanks so much.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 27/03/2015, at 10:12 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That Installer Helper HTML area should not be empty.  IF you Interact with 
 it, VO usually can read info about what’s going on.  It’s the only area 
 that is usually of any use to you.  If there are any apps open like Safari, 
 Chrome, System Preferences etc, that use Flash in some manner, they will 
 need to be quit, otherwise, Flash won’t finish installing.  As mentioned, I 
 often get a message about FlashBridge Cross Platform needing to be quit and 
 the only way I’ve found to do that is through the Activity Monitor since it 
 is not really an app.
 
 A few questions:
 
 • Do you have an item called Flash Player in your System Preferences?
 • If so, what version does it say you have installed?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:40, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Tim and anybody else who can help,
 I am having immense difficulty installing flash. Is the installer really 
 buggy or something?
 I'm at the point where I've downloaded the disk image. I open the installer 
 app. I'm warned about this and I continue. I'm asked for my computer 
 username and password which I type in and press enter. I get a window 
 called adobe flash player installer. Next to this is an installer helper 
 html area which is empty. That's all. There's a close button and nothing 
 else, and nothing seems to be installing.
 I've tried going through system prefs again to re download it. I hit the 
 download link and nothing downloads. Any ideas?
 
 Lisette
 a
 On 27/03/2015, at 7:33 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There was a discussion about this just a few days ago on this list.  A few 
 varied but similar responses.  The basic gist, if it’s Flash,
 
 • Go to System Preferences.
 • Press on the Flash button.
 • Select the Advanced pane.
 • Interact with the Scroll area.
 • Navigate to the Check Now button and press it.
 • If there’s an update available, you will be told in a dialog at this 
 point.  Choose Update.
 
 This will take you into your browser and directly to the latest Flash 
 installer.  I usually just press tab until the Install Now link is read, 
 then I press return.  It will then download to your Downloads folder and 
 you can open the .dmg file and run the installer package from there.  If 
 Safari or another Flash needing app is running, the installer will pause 
 asking you to quit them all.  Sometimes there’s a “Force Close All”, 
 sometimes not.  If the “Flash Bridge Cross Platform” service is running, 
 you’ll need to quit that process from the Activity Monitor app which is 
 located in the Utilities folder.
 
 Other than that, the only thing you may need to do is use VO-shift-space 
 to activate a button while in the Flash Installer as the regular VO-space

Re: How do you update Adobi on the Mac using VO?

2015-03-26 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Tim and anybody else who can help,
I am having immense difficulty installing flash. Is the installer really buggy 
or something?
I'm at the point where I've downloaded the disk image. I open the installer 
app. I'm warned about this and I continue. I'm asked for my computer username 
and password which I type in and press enter. I get a window called adobe flash 
player installer. Next to this is an installer helper html area which is empty. 
That's all. There's a close button and nothing else, and nothing seems to be 
installing. 
I've tried going through system prefs again to re download it. I hit the 
download link and nothing downloads. Any ideas?

Lisette
a 
 On 27/03/2015, at 7:33 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There was a discussion about this just a few days ago on this list.  A few 
 varied but similar responses.  The basic gist, if it’s Flash,
 
 • Go to System Preferences.
 • Press on the Flash button.
 • Select the Advanced pane.
 • Interact with the Scroll area.
 • Navigate to the Check Now button and press it.
 • If there’s an update available, you will be told in a dialog at this point. 
  Choose Update.
 
 This will take you into your browser and directly to the latest Flash 
 installer.  I usually just press tab until the Install Now link is read, then 
 I press return.  It will then download to your Downloads folder and you can 
 open the .dmg file and run the installer package from there.  If Safari or 
 another Flash needing app is running, the installer will pause asking you to 
 quit them all.  Sometimes there’s a “Force Close All”, sometimes not.  If the 
 “Flash Bridge Cross Platform” service is running, you’ll need to quit that 
 process from the Activity Monitor app which is located in the Utilities 
 folder.
 
 Other than that, the only thing you may need to do is use VO-shift-space to 
 activate a button while in the Flash Installer as the regular VO-space 
 doesn’t work for these buttons.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:11, Eleanor Roberts eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I think it's the Adobi Flash Player, but I'll find out more accurately for 
 you. Sorry I can't be more  help yet, but quite frankly I don't really know 
 what he's on about as I don't use it. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Which Adobe product is he using?
 
 Best.
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 09:37, Eleanor Roberts 
 eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all 
 
 I'm asking this  on behalf of a friend. He has a Mac, and uses Adobi an 
 awful lot to listen to media files (radio etc I believe). Anyway, he wants 
 to update Adobi but doesn't know how to do it on his Mac using VO, as this 
 is the first time he's had to update since getting the computer. So was 
 wondering if someone who does know could send me some instructions  whichh I 
 could pass on to him on how to do this? 
 
 Many thanks. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: How do you update Adobi on the Mac using VO?

2015-03-26 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Tim,
Ok so I'm in the system prefs, and do have a flash player button. When I press 
this, the advanced tabe is automatically selected. I don't see anywhere what 
version I've got installed. There's just an check for updates button.  
the adobe installation helper area says content is empty. It's totally weird.
Please can you tell me how to check for my version? I downloaded the dmg file 
last week so I suspect I'm trying to install the latest one.
Thank you.

Lisette
 
 On 27/03/2015, at 10:12 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That Installer Helper HTML area should not be empty.  IF you Interact with 
 it, VO usually can read info about what’s going on.  It’s the only area that 
 is usually of any use to you.  If there are any apps open like Safari, 
 Chrome, System Preferences etc, that use Flash in some manner, they will need 
 to be quit, otherwise, Flash won’t finish installing.  As mentioned, I often 
 get a message about FlashBridge Cross Platform needing to be quit and the 
 only way I’ve found to do that is through the Activity Monitor since it is 
 not really an app.
 
 A few questions:
 
 • Do you have an item called Flash Player in your System Preferences?
 • If so, what version does it say you have installed?
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 14:40, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Tim and anybody else who can help,
 I am having immense difficulty installing flash. Is the installer really 
 buggy or something?
 I'm at the point where I've downloaded the disk image. I open the installer 
 app. I'm warned about this and I continue. I'm asked for my computer username 
 and password which I type in and press enter. I get a window called adobe 
 flash player installer. Next to this is an installer helper html area which 
 is empty. That's all. There's a close button and nothing else, and nothing 
 seems to be installing. 
 I've tried going through system prefs again to re download it. I hit the 
 download link and nothing downloads. Any ideas?
 
 Lisette
 a 
 On 27/03/2015, at 7:33 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 There was a discussion about this just a few days ago on this list.  A few 
 varied but similar responses.  The basic gist, if it’s Flash,
 
 • Go to System Preferences.
 • Press on the Flash button.
 • Select the Advanced pane.
 • Interact with the Scroll area.
 • Navigate to the Check Now button and press it.
 • If there’s an update available, you will be told in a dialog at this 
 point.  Choose Update.
 
 This will take you into your browser and directly to the latest Flash 
 installer.  I usually just press tab until the Install Now link is read, 
 then I press return.  It will then download to your Downloads folder and you 
 can open the .dmg file and run the installer package from there.  If Safari 
 or another Flash needing app is running, the installer will pause asking you 
 to quit them all.  Sometimes there’s a “Force Close All”, sometimes not.  If 
 the “Flash Bridge Cross Platform” service is running, you’ll need to quit 
 that process from the Activity Monitor app which is located in the Utilities 
 folder.
 
 Other than that, the only thing you may need to do is use VO-shift-space to 
 activate a button while in the Flash Installer as the regular VO-space 
 doesn’t work for these buttons.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 12:11, Eleanor Roberts 
 eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 I think it's the Adobi Flash Player, but I'll find out more accurately for 
 you. Sorry I can't be more  help yet, but quite frankly I don't really know 
 what he's on about as I don't use it. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 17:00, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Which Adobe product is he using?
 
 Best.
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 26, 2015, at 09:37, Eleanor Roberts 
 eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all 
 
 I'm asking this  on behalf of a friend. He has a Mac, and uses Adobi an 
 awful lot to listen to media files (radio etc I believe). Anyway, he wants 
 to update Adobi but doesn't know how to do it on his Mac using VO, as this 
 is the first time he's had to update since getting the computer. So was 
 wondering if someone who does know could send me some instructions  whichh 
 I could pass on to him on how to do this? 
 
 Many thanks. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
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Re: How accessible is Google Hangouts on an iPhone?

2015-03-25 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Is there a hang outs app for the Mac too? I've had some success with using the 
website directly on the Mac, but wondered if there was an app for it too.  
thanks.
Lisette

 On 17/03/2015, at 8:37 am, Devin Prater d.pra...@me.com wrote:
 
 Its very good, until you write a message that fails to send. tapping the 
 message does not retry sending it. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 16, 2015, at 1:57 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
 clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Both on the Mac, and! on I O S, Hangouts is amazing!  I use it almost on a 
 weekly basis, if not more with my current job.
 
 Chris.
 
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 - Original Message - From: Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, March 16, 2015 2:45 PM
 Subject: How accessible is Google Hangouts on an iPhone?
 
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I just went to a Google page that discussed some of the accessibility 
 features of Hangouts and it would appear, though I haven’t tested this, that 
 Hangouts is reasonably accessible on a Mac.  Can anyone tell me how 
 accessible Hangouts is on the iPhone with the Hangouts app that is available 
 on the iOS platform?
 
 Many thanks,
 
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Re: Hims Braille Edge - braille quality

2015-03-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
I find mine has really solid and good sharp dots, and have had it for 1.5 
years. Maybe dot quality varies among devices, but I would recommend it very 
highly.
Lisette
`
 On 24/03/2015, at 9:19 am, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Chris
 Be sure and get the executive case if you get the Braille Edge because it 
 needs it. If you get the case, then I think it is as durable as any   is. You 
 have to be careful with all of them. Those plastic things are pretty 
 delicate. The manual has improved. It does not have a dot firmless control on 
 it, but I have found it to be adequate, although mine could use some work on 
 that probably. But I think it's just my device.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 23, 2015, at 2:43 PM, Chris Moore chris.w...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 I’m looking for some feedback on the Braille Edge.  How is the quality or 
 feel of the Braille dots?  How durable is the unit, is it well constructed?
 
 Any comments are welcome either to the list or to my email address.
 
 Chris
 
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Re: Upgrade from iPhone 5 to iPhone6?

2015-03-21 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi there,
For the person wanting the screen protector with dots for the iPhones, they are 
made by speeddots.com and are sold by them and lots of other vendors. 
They have two models: a standard and an advanced. The www.speeddots.com website 
is the one I've always used, and explains everything very clearly.
Good luck.

Lisette

 On 22/03/2015, at 10:07 am, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I know it happens every year. Given that we're about halfway there already, 
 though, why not pick the newer one if you'll have it for two years? It's not 
 like upgrading from a 4 or 4S, where you're stuck on iOS7 and modern apps 
 cause your device to run really slowly. The 5 is a capable device, though 
 time will tell what iOS9 does to it, and if you're replacing it but it still 
 works, I'd wait. Besides, what if the next generation finally drops the 16GB 
 model, and instead starts at 32GB for the same price? I explained this much 
 better in the article I wrote for AppleVis, so I'll just put that link below.
 http://www.applevis.com/blog/apple-iphone-opinion/why-im-keeping-my-iphone-5-one-more-year
 On Mar 21, 2015, at 3:38 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 New Phone? That’s right, every year it seems they come out with a new phone. 
 When does that happen? late fall?
 
 On Mar 21, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 The only downside is the size. The 6 is larger than the 5, though not by 
 all that much, and the 6 Plus is a monster. You'll also need new 
 accessories--case, screen protector, etc. Aside from that, and the fact 
 that you'll then be in a new contract with the 6 and thereby miss this 
 year's updated phone, there are no downsides I can think of. The upsides 
 are numerous:
 
 * faster processor and cell connection
 * Apple Pay, if your area and bank support it
 * Touch ID, for using your fingerprint in place of some passwords and to 
 unlock your phone
 * better battery
 * larger screen
 * better camera
 * I know I'm forgetting more
 On Mar 21, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My 2 year contract ends in a few weeks and I’m tempted to upgrade from the 
 iPhone 5 to the 6. Is this just a lateral move or are there some real 
 upsides to this upgrade? How about downsides?
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Re: Something that majorly bothers me about Apple

2015-03-20 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Chris,
You probably need to calm down a little and, as others have said, go tharough 
the proper channels and work your way up like the rest of the employees. People 
who go off on rants may not be considered suitable anyway. Sorry if that seems 
harsh but that's how I see it. Having knowledge and a desire to work for 
somebody is one thing, but having the maturity is quite another.
You could always start by doing what other blind people have done and get apple 
certified. I don't know anything about this, but I know blind people have done 
it. It takes hours of study and commitment. If you had that qualification, 
maybe Apple would look at you when you approach them through their employment 
division or respond to an advert hiring for jobs in your local area.

Cheers
Lisette

 On 20/03/2015, at 8:01 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 First off, this isn't a complaint, nor is it a drama rant, as much as it's 
 just something that really has me a bit unsettled.  So don't worry.  If 
 you're not for reading, excuse the language, bitch session mail, then don't 
 worry!  I promise that is not at all the nature of the following message.  I 
 cross my heart, so please just hear me out on this.
  
 I was eating breakfast this morning with both my grandmother and a very very 
 dear friend of mine who is a next door neighbor.  We all three got to talking 
 about the job industry and how with my expertees, and with my level of 
 technical skills when it comes to Apple products both from an accessibility 
 standpoint as well as just in general, how I really probably could be a major 
 benefit to the Apple user consumer market.
  
 I confess that I have considered employment through Apple several times 
 before, but I guess I never really took it all that seriously.  I mean, I 
 did, but I didn't.  Anyway, long story short, I got to thinking about our 
 discussion once I got back home.  the more I thought about it, the more I 
 realized that they are right.  I really could! make a difference, most likely.
  
 So, I started brainstorming what department would I probably do the best at, 
 and do I feel needs a team leader as myself.  Naturally, the more I thought 
 about it, the more I kept coming back to the Accessibility department.
  
 So, I finally said, ok, I'm going to give Apple Accessibility a call, and 
 just see what exactly the criteria would be.  Obviously, I'd have to move 
 either to Austin or somewhere in Calafornia.  That goes without saying.  I'd 
 very much be willing to do either, if it meant me getting hiered.
  
 So, I called and, ironically, got another gentlemen named Chris... go figure. 
  Anyway, this is what bothers me big time!  I asked him what the criteria is. 
  He was incredibly, and I do mean incredibly! cryptic.  He really wouldn't go 
 into even the slightest bit of detail.  He basically said, I'm not authorized 
 to tell you this information.  I'm like, ok, I'm not asking for you to give 
 me the whole novel rundown.  I'm only asking from a very general standpoint.  
 Obviously, I'd have to transfer my geographic location to where one of the 
 call centers are... that's inevitable.  He's just like, well, yeah?  You 
 would...  I'm like, ow'w'w, kayyy?  and... what about training?  I presume 
 that I'd be required to get several weeks worth of training, wouldn't I?  
 He's like, that, I cannot go into.  I told him, OK, sir?  I live in North 
 Carolina.  If it wind up being Calafornia that I have to move to, that is 
 almost all the way on the other side of the country.  Granted, I wouldn't 
 move until I knew if I'd get the job, but still... that would be quite a huge 
 lifechanging commitment.  Especially moving away from all of my family loved 
 ones, etc.  He's like, OK, well, sir, I can't tell ya.  I'm sorry.  I asked 
 him, then, who can.  He said, I dunno.  I'm not at liberty to say.  I asked 
 him why such the discrete nature.  All I'm asking is generally how to start 
 the process, no more no less.  If he cannot tell me, then please tell me 
 someone who can.
  
 He continued to be extremely vague.  Finally, after a little bit of sweet 
 talking, he finally ever so slightly mellowed up and told me, OK, look.  You 
 have to first be employed through Apple as just a standard advisor.  Then, 
 eventually, you'd be promoted up to Senior Advisor level whereby you'd then 
 get onboard with the Accessibility Support team.  I told him that made sense. 
  I asked him, ok, then, no wonder you're a little secretive, as I'm not 
 onboard with Apple right now, let alone a Senior Advisor, so you can't! 
 really talk to me about how to become one.  So... let's go another avenue.  
 How do I become an Apple Advisor employ in general.  Again, uh, sir, I really 
 am not supposed to tell you.  I'm like, then D*** it?  how do people get 
 hiered by you guys!  If you won't tell them where to go, or how to get 
 started with the application process, I mean, yeah, there is 

Disk permissions repair

2015-03-12 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
I just did a permissions repair and everything said it was repaired except this 
first row which reads
Warning: SUID file 
“System/Library/CoreServices/RemoteManagement/ARDAgent.app/Contents/MacOS/ARDAgent”
 has been modified and will not be repaired.

I'm not highly technical so haven't a clue what this means. I've no idea what 
this file is or how it could have been modified? Should I worry about this or 
leave it alone. The Mac seems to be working fine. 
Thanks for any guidance on this.

Cheers
Lisette

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Re: Apple out and not responding

2015-03-11 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Are others still finding the mac app store is not responding? I get a message 
saying the service is unavailable. Is there any official word from Apple on 
this?

Lisette

 On 12/03/2015, at 9:05 am, dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 i notice that when i upgraded my beta to 10.10.3 now i can’t find the feed 
 back on my dock.
 On 11 Mar 2015, at 16:35, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
   This falls under the stuff happens category which means we find other 
 things to occupy our time with. It gains us nothing to speculate on the 
 causes except generate extra traffic and keeps the online news media in 
 business..
 
 From The Believer. . .
   By way of the Chariots of the
 Gods cameth the Aliens who
 dwelt amongst the humans,
 and bringeth much knowledge.
 
 On 3/11/2015 8:31 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I don’t believe this to be a planned outage.  It appears to be, for the 
 most part, world wide.  I won’t bother speculating, other than to say, it’s 
 down and you can’t purchase media at the moment.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 11, 2015, at 08:01, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Or, and this is just speculation, they could be getting ready to open 
 registrations for the iOS Public Beta.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On Mar 11, 2015, at 8:58 AM, george b 
 gbma...@gmail.commailto:gbma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ray why don’t you have your cup half full and maybe they are working on 
 the servers for updates coming after Mondays presentation
 
 From: 
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.commailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
  On Behalf Of Ray Foret Jr
 Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 06:50
 To: Mac Visionaries List
 Subject: Apple out and not responding
 
 Hi,
 
 By now, I'm sure you all have noticed issues connecting to verious Apple 
 services.  I went to reset my Apple TV box only to discover that no matter 
 how many times I tried to enter my Apple ID password, I could not sign in. 
 Many others around the world are having the same issues.  My belief, for 
 what it's worth, is that Apple may have been hacked and thus the outage.
 
 
 http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
  
 http://thenextweb.com/apple/2015/03/11/the-apple-app-store-is-having-problems-and-itunes-connect-is-down/
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray
 
 Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
 
 Sent from my Mac,
 the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in
 
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Re: Vario Ultra (wasRe: Mario Ultra braille display

2015-03-04 Thread Lisette Wesseling
It's a  prototype HIMS braille display which has 14 cells and can apparently 
connect to six devices at once (1 USB and 5 bluetooth). It's not for sale yet 
and was shown at ATIA in prototype form only. 
Blind Bargains did a podcast about it last month, which is the only reason I 
know anything about it.

Cheers
Lisette

 On 5/03/2015, at 11:13 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Smart Beetle?  that's a new one on me.  What is it?
 Donna
 On Mar 4, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Donna,
 
 I wish the Smart Beetle from Hims had more cells as it has a similar number 
 of connection possibilities.  That said, I’m not sure what that’s going to 
 be running either.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ed
 On 4 Mar 2015, at 19:29, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ed,
 
 I agree, I was disappointed to see that.  As much as anything, I figured 
 that since I was going to be at CSUN anyway, I'd take a look.  However, 
 based on our current snowstorm, I may not be going anywhere after all. :( 
 Cheers,
 Donna
 On Mar 4, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Edward Green ergreen1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I really liked the feel of the Vario Ultra, but on principle I refuse to 
 buy something released in 2014 that is based on Windows C.
 
 Cheers,
 
 Ed
 On 4 Mar 2015, at 16:37, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for this, Doug, it's good to know.  One question, it wasn't clear 
 from Baum's website whether the Vario connects as a display to the Mac 
 and the iPhone, or just the iPhone.  Have you used it as a display with 
 your Mac?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 On Mar 4, 2015, at 8:56 AM, Deb Lewis deblewi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Well I love my VarioUltra, but I have to say it has very major
 problems which Baum doesn't seem to be resolving very quickly at all.
 They've had significant difficulty shipping products at all and now
 the current firmware version locks up and requires frequently
 resetting the device. I know the product is new and new products have
 growing pains, but I wouldn't consider ordering this device until
 those of us who have it can report that it's stable. I hope it's very
 soon because it has the potential to be a truly fabulous device. I've
 been totally shocked by Baum's seemingly cluelessness because it's not
 consistent with my previous experience. So definitely take a look at
 it, but don't plan to invest until they do some serious work and until
 they get production in order.
 
 On 3/4/15, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 Hmm, sorry, auto-correct got the better of me. :)  That should have been
 Vario Ultra.
 Donna
 On Mar 4, 2015, at 6:49 AM, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I'll be heading out to CSUN tomorrow, and while there, thought I'd 
 take a
 look at the Vario Ultra.  Just wondered if anyone has used that display
 with either the Mac or an iPhone?
 thanks,
 Donna
 
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Re: Problems with Voice Dream Reader on an iPhone 6

2015-02-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
How else are developers supposed to let people know about similar products they 
think people might be interested in. You don't have to read the information.
Lisette

 On 19/02/2015, at 9:38 am, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 I did as well, but I’m merely pointing out that there didn’t appear to be any 
 differences with the build. As I recall, the only thing it said in the 
 “release notes” was the advertisement for voice dream writer. Personally, I’m 
 not a fan of developers using an avenue like an app update to plug another 
 one of the apps  they are developing, or have already developed. Hence, I 
 wasn’t all that impressed by that.
 On Feb 18, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes, it did mention the release of Voice Dream Writer in the upgrade
 description but I executed the upgrade button and received a download so I'm
 guessing the app had some changes to it.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
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 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Faisal ali
 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:33 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Problems with Voice Dream Reader on an iPhone 6
 
 What update? As far as I can remember, that update was simply to advertise
 voice dream writer.
 On Feb 18, 2015, at 8:58 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 The latest Voice Dream Reader update was version 3.4.0 released on Jan 21,
 2015 so it hasn't been that long ago.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg
 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2015 7:48 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Problems with Voice Dream Reader on an iPhone 6
 
 Hi!
 Wonder whats going on.
 I haven't  seen an update for voice dream reader for a long time now.
 /A
 17 feb 2015 kl. 20:22 skrev Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi, Alan,
 
 After many days of attempting without success to download voices I had
 purchased for the Voice Dream Reader to my iPhone 6, it finally worked.
 Still, it took me over a week of constant attempts for it to finally work,
 and I was always at places where the Internet connectivity was excellent.
 I
 love Voice Dream Reader, so I was willing to put up with the hassle, but
 installing something I had already purchased should have been easier.
 
 If anyone else ever has this problem, all I can do is suggest that they
 keep trying until it finally works.
 
 Kindest regards,
 
 Mike
 
 On 11,Feb,2015, at 14:05, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Mike, 
 
 Not that it will make you feel any better but I'm experiencing the same
 issue. I restored an iPhone 5 backup to a new 128GB iPhone 6 and I'm
 getting
 the same network error when trying to download my purchased voice dream
 voices even though I have full wifi connectivity. fYI, voice dream voices
 never come forward with a restored backup but they should certainly
 download
 from the get voices screen. 
 
 I'll keep you posted if I get other results. 
 
 Alan Lemly 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Feb 11, 2015, at 3:27 PM, Mike Busboom mbusb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I am having a rather unusual problem with Voice Dream Reader on my
 recently-purchased iPhone 6.  The iPhone is running the latest iOS
 software
 and has 64 GB of memory.  The phone is unlocked.
 
 When I backed up everything from my iPhone 4S, all of the Voice Dream
 Reader stuff appeared on the new iPhone.  The only things that didn't
 carry
 over to the new iPhone were the additional voices I purchased.  These
 voices
 were high-quality voices for both English and German.  I was able to
 restore
 the German voice, but thus far, I have not been able to restore James, the
 high quality English which I purchased.  Whenever I try, I am told that
 the
 voice can't be transferred because of poor connectivity.  While I can
 believe this, were I only at one physical site for downloading, I have
 tried
 at five or six different places, with 3 out of 3 bars reception and fast
 connectivity.
 
 Does anyone have any ideas for me?  I would very much like to have the
 voices I paid for on my new iPHone 6.
 
 Thanks to you all,
 
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Re: Problems with Voice Dream Reader on an iPhone 6

2015-02-11 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Mike,
I downloaded James last weekend no problem, so perhaps there is something wrong 
with the voice dream servers. He took ages to download as usual, but it did 
work. I am also using an iPhone 6, and was restoring a previous purchase of 
James.
I suspect it's their servers not your phone. Frustrating though I know.

Lisette

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 Hello everyone,
 
 I am having a rather unusual problem with Voice Dream Reader on my 
 recently-purchased iPhone 6.  The iPhone is running the latest iOS software 
 and has 64 GB of memory.  The phone is unlocked.
 
 When I backed up everything from my iPhone 4S, all of the Voice Dream Reader 
 stuff appeared on the new iPhone.  The only things that didn’t carry over to 
 the new iPhone were the additional voices I purchased.  These voices were 
 high-quality voices for both English and German.  I was able to restore the 
 German voice, but thus far, I have not been able to restore James, the high 
 quality English which I purchased.  Whenever I try, I am told that the voice 
 can’t be transferred because of poor connectivity.  While I can believe this, 
 were I only at one physical site for downloading, I have tried at five or six 
 different places, with 3 out of 3 bars reception and fast connectivity.
 
 Does anyone have any ideas for me?  I would very much like to have the voices 
 I paid for on my new iPHone 6.
 
 Thanks to you all,
 
 Mike
 
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Re: Can't save attachments from emails

2015-02-05 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Alex,
I have trouble saving attachment too, but not if I actually open the message. 
When I hit enter on it, and then save the attachment, it works. When I just use 
the preview pain they never save. 
I hope you manage to work it out.

Lisette

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 Hi all,
 I can't seem to save attachments. I follow the usual steps (move to the 
 message, go to File  Save Attachments…, select a folder) but the file(s) 
 never appear in the folder I choose. I've looked a level above the chosen 
 folder, then two levels, but the file isn't there. I'm running 10.10.2. Is 
 there a trick to doing this, or is it broken? Is there an alternative way I 
 could try? Thanks.
 
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Re: VoiceOver voice hotkeys not working

2015-01-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Phil,
It said default voice in Mavericks too, I'm sure it did.
If you are not using the default voice settings for your VO then changing the 
default rate won't change your voice. I use the default voice for everything 
pretty much so changing the rate does change my overall voice speed. But you 
can use different voices within  VO which are not default.
Hope that makes sense. good luck in your investigations in VO utility.

Lisette

 On 19/01/2015, at 8:42 am, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 when using the VO CMD arrow keys, I hear things like “default voice”, 
 “default rate”, “default pitch”, etc. I don’t ever remember hearing the word 
 “default” when using these keys in Mavericks. Anyway, when I then arrow down 
 or up, the rate changes, but when I release the VO cmd keys and resume 
 reading, the rate stays at the original rate.
 I’m going to look into the voice over utility more closely and see what I can 
 figure out.
 It’s got something to do with this “default” business I think. 
 On Jan 17, 2015, at 9:42 PM, Jürgen Fleger apple-engl...@fleger.net wrote:
 
 Hi Phil,
 I couldn't reproduce this behaviour on my MacBook Air 2013, OS 10.10.1. 
 Changing the rate works as in Mavericks. I also couldn't find a new default 
 settings. I used VO + CMD + arrow keys. Could you discribe a little mor in 
 case I did Misunderstand you?
 Jürgen
 
 
 
 Am 18.01.2015 um 00:18 schrieb Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com:
 
 Using the VO hotkeys for adjusting rate, pitch, etc does not seem to work 
 correctly in Yosemite. I can use VO+CMD+arrow keys to change the speech 
 rate, and the rate does change while using the hotkey combo, but the rate 
 change does not take effect once the hotkey combo is released and regular 
 reading mode is resumed. 
 Also, their is a new element of “default” settings being mentioned that I 
 don’t remember hearing when making rate changes  in Mavericks. Did they 
 make it better or break it? How can I change the rate of speech under 
 Yosemite?
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Photos which can't be deleted

2015-01-12 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Folks,
I'm wondering whether anybody has ever seen this. On some photos on my friend's 
iPad, there's no delete button. He wants to delete these photos, but can't 
because there's no delete button. Even when he selects them, the delete button 
is dimmed. If they were already deleted, why are they still showing up in his 
photostream?
Thanks if anybody has any ideas.


Lisette

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Re: Observation with Mail under Yosemite

2015-01-04 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I agree with David. Sometimes vo j doesn't work, but restarting mail or voice 
over, or simply trying again, works. Sometimes, you have to wait for two 
seconds after pressing  vo j before attempting to read the message.
I wonder if it's some kind of focus issue which sometimes happens. If I'm 
really stuck, I just press enter on the message and read it that way.

Lisette

 On 5/01/2015, at 10:13 am, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What I find is that sometimes when I am first opening messages I have to 
 press VO J 3 times to go from message list to email and then back to message 
 list and then finally back to the preview window when it will read normally
 This tends to be only an initial problem when Mail first  opens.
 
 David Griffith.
 On 4 Jan 2015, at 19:35, christopher hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Just a minor but annoying observation with Mail under Yosemite.
 I use the preview pain to read messages. What I do is first select the 
 message in the messages table, then press vo-j to interact with the message 
 text. Trouble is, I cannot always read the text using standalone arrow keys; 
 I have to close the Window, open the mailbox again, select the message, 
 press vo-j and can read the message using standard arrow keys.
 Why is this? Is there a better way of reading messages? See I use the 
 preview pain because as soon as I delete a message the next one is displayed 
 automatically. If I actually open the message and delete it, I am returned 
 to my messages table which I do not prefer.
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Apple script for finding out battery percentage

2015-01-02 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Would the person who posted the dashboard scripts for finding out the battery 
status mind re-sending the link to the zip file? I'd like to try this out and 
thought I'd saved it somewhere but can't find it now for the life of me. It was 
the zip file containing the scripts and instructions on how to install them.
Many thanks.

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Re: 2 quick questions about IPhones as looking to upgrade

2015-01-02 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I was replying to a new thread, not a highjacked thread as far as I can tell.
Happy new year to you too.

Lisette

 On 3/01/2015, at 12:08 pm, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Recently, there was a thread on hijacking a topic. Now, please tell me which 
 topic this is: bootcamp issues or an iOS 6 vs. 6 plus decision? Where are the 
 monitors on this? It's very disconcerting to think I'll be reading numerous 
 threads on bootcamp and find that there's a totally different topic being 
 discussed. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jan 2, 2015, at 2:53 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Eleanor,
 I have the iPhone 6, and it works fantastically. I have no vision, so don't 
 need the bigger screen of the 6 plus. I personally find the 6 plus way too 
 big for me, so the 6 does me nicely. People say the battery life on the 6 
 plus is significantly better, but that wasn't enough of an incentive for me 
 to buy it - I just don't want such a monster sized phone. 
 I'm sure others will chime in with the opposite opinion. I think both phones 
 work very well for blind people, so it comes down to whether you want the 
 extra size, better battery life and bigger price tag.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 3/01/2015, at 10:36 am, Eleanor Roberts 
 eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all 
 
 My apologies, as I know this isn't directly related to Mac computers, but 
 have got 2 quick questions for you. 
 
 Firstly, I am looking to upgrade my IPhone to either a 6 or a 6+. Can 
 anyone who's experienced either of  these tell me which they think is 
 better from a VI perspective? Also what are the differences between the 2 
 (apart from the obvious one of size)?? + has anyone encountered any 
 significant problems with either of them? 
 
 Secondly, just wondered if there was an equivalent list to this one for I 
 devices?? 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
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Re: 2 quick questions about IPhones as looking to upgrade

2015-01-02 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Eleanor,
I have the iPhone 6, and it works fantastically. I have no vision, so don't 
need the bigger screen of the 6 plus. I personally find the 6 plus way too big 
for me, so the 6 does me nicely. People say the battery life on the 6 plus is 
significantly better, but that wasn't enough of an incentive for me to buy it - 
I just don't want such a monster sized phone. 
I'm sure others will chime in with the opposite opinion. I think both phones 
work very well for blind people, so it comes down to whether you want the extra 
size, better battery life and bigger price tag.

Lisette

 On 3/01/2015, at 10:36 am, Eleanor Roberts eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all 
 
 My apologies, as I know this isn't directly related to Mac computers, but 
 have got 2 quick questions for you. 
 
 Firstly, I am looking to upgrade my IPhone to either a 6 or a 6+. Can anyone 
 who's experienced either of  these tell me which they think is better from a 
 VI perspective? Also what are the differences between the 2 (apart from the 
 obvious one of size)?? + has anyone encountered any significant problems with 
 either of them? 
 
 Secondly, just wondered if there was an equivalent list to this one for I 
 devices?? 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
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Re: Hand off

2014-12-29 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Shawn,
I just got a new MBA last month and it still doesn't work. It didn't work on my 
older Mac, so I thought getting a new one may help. That's not  the reason I 
got a new Mac though (smiles). People rave about hand off and it's just odd 
that it has never worked for me.


Cheers
Lisette

 On 29/12/2014, at 10:01 pm, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lisette. How old is your Mac? Apparently hand off only works on 2012 or 
 later Macs. If it's older than that, the only thing you'll be able to do is 
 phone calls and text messages.
 
 
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 Subject: Hand off
 
 Hi folks,
 Is bluetooth meant to be on for this to work. I have not managed to get hand 
 off or continuity to work between anything. I can get calls on my Mac from my 
 iPhone, but handoff has never worked for me. Everything is signed into the 
 same iCloud account and on the same wifi. 
 It's very odd. I'm wondering if bluetooth has something to do with it.
 How do I know if handoff is working? Where does it appear on the Mac?
 Thanks for any thoughts.
 
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Hand off

2014-12-28 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
Is bluetooth meant to be on for this to work. I have not managed to get hand 
off or continuity to work between anything. I can get calls on my Mac from my 
iPhone, but handoff has never worked for me. Everything is signed into the same 
iCloud account and on the same wifi. 
It's very odd. I'm wondering if bluetooth has something to do with it.
How do I know if handoff is working? Where does it appear on the Mac?
Thanks for any thoughts.

Lisette

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Re: question about notification center

2014-12-20 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Tim,
I'm not the original poster, but have tried your suggestion. I've turned on 
location services now (it was off) but I don't see weather in that table of 
apps in system prefs. 
 There was one table which just had  system  services in, and another table 
 headed location services. This has  calendar, reminders, contacts, 
 accessibility of all things, and diagnostics and usage. Where do I find 
 weather so I can turn it on?
Thanks for any clarification.

Lisette



 On 21/12/2014, at 5:21 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wro
 
 Hi,
 
 I wonder if your Location Services are turned off for Weather and such 
 things.  Go into System Preferences, Security  Privacy, then select the 
 Privacy tab.  Select Location Services from the first table, and investigate 
 what has asked for your location lately.  You can modify things in this pane 
 by first unlocking the pane with your Administrator password.  Check that 
 Location Services are enabled and verify that things like “weather” are 
 checked.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 19, 2014, at 10:20, Faisal ali faisal.a...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I’m home for christmas at my parents house in another city. However in the 
 notification centre’s today view on Yosemite, it still shows my previous 
 location as for the weather. I tried to change it by editing the weather 
 widget but that isn’t seems to be working. Am I doing something wrong here?
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Re: Sorting Mail

2014-12-16 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Command option up lands me at the top of my mail inbox using standard view. 
Conversely, command option down arrow lands me at the bottom. I don't know if 
this works in classic view, but it's worth a try.

Cheers
Lisette

 On 17/12/2014, at 1:45 pm, Lorie McCloud lorice...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have some mail questions too. I have mh mail set to classic. I couldn’t get 
 it to let me put oldest first. how can I move to the very top or the very 
 bottom of the table. I land at various places when I open my mail and just 
 have to go from wherever I land. also, if I have stopped it in the middle of 
 reading a message how can I tell it to read continuously again?
 
 Thanks.
 On Dec 12, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi:
 I have Apple mail to sort mail by date, and latest message at bottom of mail 
 box. This appears to work in my main inbox: however it doesn’t work in sub 
 mail boxes. For example, the Mac visionaries list has a rule to send all 
 mail from this list to the Macvisionaries mail box. The last message use to 
 be at the bottom. Now, the dates are mixt up. Can I resolve this? Also, 
 which view do I use for mail, Classic, or the original?
 
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Re: Handoff between MBP and iOS

2014-12-13 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Jenine,
It's not going to be much comfort to you, but I have not got hand off to work 
on anything yet. I can receive calls phone calls on my mac, I can send text 
messages from my mac via my phone, but I can't start a message on one device 
and finish it off on another. Everything is on the same Wifi etc etc, because 
calls and texts are working fine.
So I don't know either, but I wanted you to know you're not the only one. If 
you do find a fix, please let us all know. I've given up for now as life is 
really too short, but it's odd that hand-off works for some but not everybody. 
And yes, I've listened to the podcasts and am doing exactly the same steps.

Lisette

 On 14/12/2014, at 6:58 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 OK, I’m obviously missing something here. I thought I set everything up so 
 that I could start a message on one device and finish it on another. 
 
 I have an MBP mid 2012 and an iPhone 5S, both running the most recent 
 versions of OS. 
 
 I have Handoff on for both devices and have both recognized, or seemingly so, 
 for the Messages app. At least I thought I did. I went through the procedure 
 in which you receive a code to put on the device. Done. 
 
 Now when I receive messages, they appear on both devices, which is great.
 
 Handoff doesn’t seem to work though. What might I be missing?
 
 My preferred method is to set up the message, all but sender, on the MBP, 
 where I can type faster, then send it via the phone with any fishing touches.
 
 Thanks all!
 Jenine Stanley
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Re: Changing email address

2014-12-13 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Angus,
I think you might need to do the following to fix your problem:
1. From within mail, go to the menu bar with vo m, and choose the window menu. 
Go down there and choose previous recipients.
2. From there, you will see a table with all the people to whom you have sent 
emails. Interact with this and find any you want to remove. I think this is 
what Mail uses to auto complete in the first instance. Once you have selected 
an email address, uninteract with the table and move to the right to the remove 
button. Next time, your correct Denise from the contacts can be typed in 
without auto complete getting in the way.

Lisette

 On 13/12/2014, at 7:49 pm, Angus MacKinnon floda...@gmx.com wrote:
 
 Alex
 
 I have denise-12...@slbwa.org in my contacts and type denise-12...@slbwa.org 
 and mail keeps going to denise-12...@slbwa.org.lc.
 
 Angus MacKinnon
 
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Re: Changing email address

2014-12-13 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Angus,
I haven't a clue. It's like any other table so perhaps you could select all and 
then do remove. I'm not going to try it on my system as I don't want to delete 
them all. But play around. What have you got to lose?

Lisette

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 Lisette
 
 Thank you very much. Just curious is their a way to clear out the entire 
 Previous Receipients?
 
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Re: itunes help

2014-12-10 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Have you listened to David Griffith's podcast re iTunes? I'm finding it very 
helpful as I was confused too. They are on Applevis now but he did send the 
links a few days ago.

Perhaps he can chime in here.

Lisette

 On 11/12/2014, at 7:19 am, deedra waters dee...@the-brannons.com wrote:
 
 let’s hope i can type this with out hitting the trackpad by accident since 
 you can’t turn it off…thanks apple…
 
 anyway i want to play simple folders on iTunes essentially they have mp3 
 files in them so i put the folder in my home directory, and tried to add it 
 to the library. the end result was that i could never find the folders using 
 the iTunes add to library feature and no way to just “open folder” like i 
 want. Please, i need all the iTunes help i can get.
 
 BTW are there accessible and much simpler players to use? I desperately want 
 something simpler.
 
 
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Unable to increase volume sometimes under Yosemite

2014-12-10 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
just wondering whether anybody else has trouble increasing the volume on an 
MBA? Sometimes, and it's just happened again, after opening the lid, I'm unable 
to increase or decrease the volume using fn plus f11 and 12. Most of the time 
it works, including hearing the audible volume up and down sounds. But often I 
am unable to increase or decrease it. I don't know whether this is a VoiceOver 
thing or just a Yosemite bug, so am not sure to whom I should report it.
By the way, the new MBA is so much faster than my old Macbook Pro from 2011. 
It's a joy to use the Mac again, where it was getting frustrating and slow 
using the old one. It would take 10 seconds to open a programme on the old one. 
Migration assistant worked like a charm and I'm very happy with the new 
machine. It's very snappy.
I increased the ram to 8 gb, and left the rest as is. And I even managed to 
format the old one and reinstall the OS, pretty much all by myself. I was 
impressed there was speech throughout. And I was pretty nervous about doing it 
by myself, but it's definitely possible even for me.

Lisette

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Re: De-authorising a computer from iTunes

2014-12-08 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Andrew,
Both authorise and de-authorise are there. You would think one would be 
disabled. When you de-authorise a computer, the dialog says purchased music 
will no longer play on this computer. Except it does, so that's a bit 
confusing. 
I know there is an option somewhere to de-authorise all computers, which I 
might need to do as I have some old PCs from my Windows days which I didn't 
de-authorise at the time. Is this done on a website somewhere?

 On 8/12/2014, at 9:29 pm, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 If you have downloaded content into itunes, it will still play even though 
 you have deauthorised the computer.  Go back into the menu and see whether 
 deauthorize has changed to authorize.
 
 Andrew
 On 8 Dec 2014, at 07:27, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 What is the best way to de-authorise a computer from iTunes? When I go to 
 the menu bar within iTunes, choose store, and then de-authorise, I'm asked 
 for apple id and password. When I choose the de-authorise button, I'm put 
 back in my albums view and purchased content still plays.
 I don't think it's de-authorising the old computer.  Any ideas?
 
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Re: Reader in Safari for Mac

2014-12-08 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Isn't it command shift r.

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 So I see how to activate the Reader feature in iOS for web sites but how does 
 one do this in Safari on the Mac? I’m probably missing something really 
 obvious here. Thanks.
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De-authorising a computer from iTunes

2014-12-07 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
What is the best way to de-authorise a computer from iTunes? When I go to the 
menu bar within iTunes, choose store, and then de-authorise, I'm asked for 
apple id and password. When I choose the de-authorise button, I'm put back in 
my albums view and purchased content still plays.
I don't think it's de-authorising the old computer.  Any ideas?

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Re: Deleting photos permanently from photo stream

2014-12-04 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Tim,
Thanks for explaining this. I find the whole photo stream versus camera roll 
thing deeply confusing, and so do many sighted people I know. 
Because camera roll opens up the photos app it's sometimes difficult to know 
where you are deleting something from. 
Thanks for your explanation though.

Lisette

 On 5/12/2014, at 9:17 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 As far as I’m aware, unless something has changed, deleting a picture from 
 your Camera Roll does not affect your PhotoStream at all.  If PhotoStream is 
 enabled from within iCloud on your iOS device, when you snap a picture, one 
 copy is put into your Camera Roll and one is placed into the PhotoStream for 
 instant sharing amongst your devices.  Similarly, if you delete it from 
 PhotoStream, it will delete it from all devices that are using that 
 PhotoStream, but not necessarily from the Camera Roll.  A caveat to this is 
 that if you have iPhoto on your Mac set to copy your PhotoStream photos into 
 events, then that copy will remain intact, only the PhotoStream copy will be 
 deleted.
 
 Hope this makes sense.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Dec 4, 2014, at 00:32, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I know the rule used to be that if you deleted something from your iPhone 
 camera rol, it was deleted from photo stream, iPhoto and everything. 
 Now that the camera roll opens up iPhoto if you want to view all photos, how 
 do you delete a photo permanently? If I delete a photo from my iPhone using 
 the Photos app, will it be permanently deleted from everything so I never 
 see it again? I don't want to spend time deleting photos, only to have them 
 stick around in my photostream.
 Thanks for any clarification.
 
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Deleting photos permanently from photo stream

2014-12-03 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi all,
I know the rule used to be that if you deleted something from your iPhone 
camera rol, it was deleted from photo stream, iPhoto and everything. 
Now that the camera roll opens up iPhoto if you want to view all photos, how do 
you delete a photo permanently? If I delete a photo from my iPhone using the 
Photos app, will it be permanently deleted from everything so I never see it 
again? I don't want to spend time deleting photos, only to have them stick 
around in my photostream.
Thanks for any clarification.

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Migration assistant question

2014-12-01 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
Just wondering which method of copying data from one mac to another is most 
efficient or most likely to get everything across properly? I have a time 
machine back up, with everything checked. Is it best to use this time machine 
back up with migration assistant, or try to do it by connecting both macs up 
together. I want to try to get my VO settings and all other programme settings 
across, plus iPhotos I have imported and obviously iTunes and all my documents.
Any advice gratefully received as I prepare to buy a new Mac and deal with the 
headache of getting it set up the way I like.
Thanks

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up specking a new MacBook Air

2014-11-28 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
I'm thinking about purchasing the 11 inch MBA. Am I right in thinking that 
adding more ram will be more beneficial to a blind person than upping the 
processor from 1.4 to 1.7?
Would 8 GB of ram be enough in the 11 inch, 256 Flash drive model? Does the 
added processor speed really make a difference if you're not using many 
graphics? Will I notice any improved speed from my 2011 MBP which is slow at 
opening programmes sometimes. 

It really gets expensive adding processor speed and ram.
Any thoughts welcome.
Also, like the other person, I really need simple instructions about how to 
clean my old Mac for a new user. I don't know how to get into the recovery 
petition and the thought terrifies me if Im honest. Isn't there a simple Apple 
setting to restore to factory defaults like there is on the iPhones? 

Lisette

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Re: Editing track info in iTunes 12

2014-11-20 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Tim,
The only way I can get to the info place is by pressing the contextual menu. 
Pressing Command i does nothing. How are you getting command i to work?
Thanks.

Lisette

 On 20/11/2014, at 5:58 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 After pressing cmd-i to Get Info on a song, make sure that the Details tab is 
 selected.  Navigate to the Scroll area then VO-space on the Edit field you 
 wish to modify.  You can then either press tab to get to the next editable 
 field or VO-right/left to the next field you wish to edit and VO-space on it. 
  this process will also work in the other tabs within the Get Info window.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Nov 19, 2014, at 16:55, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi David,
 Well what a mess they've made of that. Thanks for telling me about tabbing 
 through. It did work but it's much more clumsy.  
 And I do remember you.
 Thanks again.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 20/11/2014, at 11:04 am, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lisette 
 
 To state briefly I  am an ex braille pupil of yours from about 14 years ago 
 in London and also enjoyed your singing performances. However  to remain on 
 topic   for iTunes and this list I found that if I continued to tab into 
 the Get info dialogue I eventually came to a set of edit buttons which, 
 when pressed,  will let you edit information.
 I am not sure why they have done this as it seems unnecessarily complicated 
 but rest assured you can still edit information.  
 David Griffith
 On 19 Nov 2014, at 21:03, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Please can somebody tell me how to edit track info in the new iTunes. I 
 can see the get info option in the contextual menu, but when you go in 
 there everything seems changed i.e. no way to change from summary to info, 
 and no way to edit artist name, track name etc. 
 Thanks if anybody can help.
 
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Editing track info in iTunes 12

2014-11-19 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi all,
Please can somebody tell me how to edit track info in the new iTunes. I can see 
the get info option in the contextual menu, but when you go in there everything 
seems changed i.e. no way to change from summary to info, and no way to edit 
artist name, track name etc. 
Thanks if anybody can help.

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Re: Editing track info in iTunes 12

2014-11-19 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi David,
Well what a mess they've made of that. Thanks for telling me about tabbing 
through. It did work but it's much more clumsy.  
And I do remember you.
Thanks again.

Lisette

 On 20/11/2014, at 11:04 am, David Griffith daj.griff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lisette 
 
 To state briefly I  am an ex braille pupil of yours from about 14 years ago 
 in London and also enjoyed your singing performances. However  to remain on 
 topic   for iTunes and this list I found that if I continued to tab into the 
 Get info dialogue I eventually came to a set of edit buttons which, when 
 pressed,  will let you edit information.
 I am not sure why they have done this as it seems unnecessarily complicated 
 but rest assured you can still edit information.  
 David Griffith
 On 19 Nov 2014, at 21:03, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Please can somebody tell me how to edit track info in the new iTunes. I can 
 see the get info option in the contextual menu, but when you go in there 
 everything seems changed i.e. no way to change from summary to info, and no 
 way to edit artist name, track name etc. 
 Thanks if anybody can help.
 
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Re: Sending e-mail to multiple recipient

2014-11-07 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Andrew,
I just did this yesterday using comma successfully, Just ignore the 
auto-correct and type the person's name, then put the comma. If you want to 
insert another address later, just go back into the edit field and type the new 
name. I wasn't sure whether I was at the end of the field either, but it 
appears I was as the addresses appeared correctly in the to field.
It's definitely comma thogh.

Lisette

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 Listers,
 
 I have failed miserably failed to send an e-mail to multiple recipients.  I 
 thought I could accomplish it by separating addresses with a comma but I was 
 unable to accomplish this.  I tried semicolon and again I couldn’t do this.  
 The trouble is as I’m typing an address, Mail completes the address for me.  
 I don’t know how to move to the end of that address to insert a comma or 
 semicolon. Which do I need to put?  Help please because it’s driving me crazy.
 
 Thanks a million
 
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Re: Dropbox in Yosemite

2014-11-06 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Andrew,
Thanks for your excellent description. There is no drop box icon in my menu 
extras, and yes I am using VO arrow keys. There is a drop box folder on my desk 
top but it's just not syncing.
I'll have another go at opening the app or try to update it somehow, though I 
thought I was on the latest version.
Thanks though.
 On 6/11/2014, at 8:03 pm, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Lisette,
 
 I upgraded to Yosemite a few weeks ago but have not had any trouble with 
 Dropbox.  Please forgive me if I say something you have already tried.
 
 I’ve just gone to menu extras with ctrl+f8.  Once there, use vo+left and 
 right arrows to move through the menu items.  Otherwise if you just use arrow 
 keys on their own, you won’t find Dropbox item.  So now, using vo+arrow keys, 
 I have found Dropbox icon.  Now you have to bring mouse cursor to vo cursor 
 with vo+command+f5.  And then perform mouse click with vo+shift+spacebar.  
 You will hear something like “application”.  (If you get thrown out of the 
 process here, use windows chooser menu  to find Dropbox application window.)  
 Now I used vo+arrow keys again to move through the window where voiceover 
 reads titles of my files in Dropbox.  The “settings” button or rather 
 clickable area is at the very right of this list.  I clicked on it and heard 
 voiceover say menu.  Now you can arrow up and down that menu and at the 
 bottom you will find “preferences”.  Activate preferences.  If you get thrown 
 out of this process by any chance - which happened to me - use your window 
 chooser facility to find the dropbox window again.  Once in preferences,  you 
 will have a few buttons: General, account, and two to other buttons which I 
 can’t remember now.  You can choose whatever button with the usual 
 vo+spacebar here.  Voiceover will announce that a button is selected but for 
 me I couldn’t actually see the content of the window that I expected to have 
 appeared as a consequence of my selection.  After some experimenting, I 
 realise that in here you have to press your tab button to move into the 
 window to examine its content and make changes.
 
 I hope this might help.  Sorry if this description is a bit complex but 
 dropbox is not very easy.  By the way, my dropbox version is 2.10.41.  
 
 Also, if you check your home folder, can you see dropbox folder there?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Andrew
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 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Since upgrading to Yosemite, my Dropbox doesn't seem to be sinking with my 
 Mac. I wanted to check whether I was signed in, but can't find it in the 
 extras menu anymore. When I try to open the app, I just get busy busy.
 Where do I go to sign in on my Mac please?
 
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Re: Dropbox in Yosemite

2014-11-06 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Andrew,
Well it just shows you should always go for the tried and true fixes first. I 
just did a restart and now everything is syncing again. Thanks for the tip 
though about going into the dropbox account via the contextual menu. I'll 
remember that for next time.
When in doubt, do a re-start.

Cheers
Lisette

 On 7/11/2014, at 10:19 am, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Lisette,
 
 If you can locate dropbox folder in your home folder, call up its contextual 
 menu with vo+shift+m.  One of the options in the menu is to “view in 
 dropbox.com”.  When activated, it should take you straight into your account 
 on the dropbox page.  I’ve tested it and it took me into my account.  There, 
 if you look around under your personal / account options, there’s an 
 “install” link.  You may have to reinstall it.
 
 With all best wishes
 
 Andrew
 On 6 Nov 2014, at 20:51, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Andrew,
 Thanks for your excellent description. There is no drop box icon in my menu 
 extras, and yes I am using VO arrow keys. There is a drop box folder on my 
 desk top but it's just not syncing.
 I'll have another go at opening the app or try to update it somehow, though 
 I thought I was on the latest version.
 Thanks though.
 On 6/11/2014, at 8:03 pm, Andrew Lamanche ioani...@me.com wrote:
 
 Dear Lisette,
 
 I upgraded to Yosemite a few weeks ago but have not had any trouble with 
 Dropbox.  Please forgive me if I say something you have already tried.
 
 I’ve just gone to menu extras with ctrl+f8.  Once there, use vo+left and 
 right arrows to move through the menu items.  Otherwise if you just use 
 arrow keys on their own, you won’t find Dropbox item.  So now, using 
 vo+arrow keys, I have found Dropbox icon.  Now you have to bring mouse 
 cursor to vo cursor with vo+command+f5.  And then perform mouse click with 
 vo+shift+spacebar.  You will hear something like “application”.  (If you 
 get thrown out of the process here, use windows chooser menu  to find 
 Dropbox application window.)  Now I used vo+arrow keys again to move 
 through the window where voiceover reads titles of my files in Dropbox.  
 The “settings” button or rather clickable area is at the very right of this 
 list.  I clicked on it and heard voiceover say menu.  Now you can arrow up 
 and down that menu and at the bottom you will find “preferences”.  Activate 
 preferences.  If you get thrown out of this process by any chance - which 
 happened to me - use your window chooser facility to find the dropbox 
 window again.  Once in preferences,  you will have a few buttons: General, 
 account, and two to other buttons which I can’t remember now.  You can 
 choose whatever button with the usual vo+spacebar here.  Voiceover will 
 announce that a button is selected but for me I couldn’t actually see the 
 content of the window that I expected to have appeared as a consequence of 
 my selection.  After some experimenting, I realise that in here you have to 
 press your tab button to move into the window to examine its content and 
 make changes.
 
 I hope this might help.  Sorry if this description is a bit complex but 
 dropbox is not very easy.  By the way, my dropbox version is 2.10.41.  
 
 Also, if you check your home folder, can you see dropbox folder there?
 
 Best wishes
 
 Andrew
 On 6 Nov 2014, at 02:06, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 Since upgrading to Yosemite, my Dropbox doesn't seem to be sinking with my 
 Mac. I wanted to check whether I was signed in, but can't find it in the 
 extras menu anymore. When I try to open the app, I just get busy busy.
 Where do I go to sign in on my Mac please?
 
 Lisette
 
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Dropbox in Yosemite

2014-11-05 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi all,
Since upgrading to Yosemite, my Dropbox doesn't seem to be sinking with my Mac. 
I wanted to check whether I was signed in, but can't find it in the extras menu 
anymore. When I try to open the app, I just get busy busy.
Where do I go to sign in on my Mac please?

Lisette

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Downloads notification question

2014-10-31 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
I'm not sure quite how to explain this, but here goes. In Mavericks, I had my 
mac set up to let me know whenever a new file  was being added to my downloads 
folder so I knew a safari  download had started and finished. Now, under 
Yosemite, often the dialog box is there, asking me to press enter whether I 
want to view the new file or not, but there's no alert associated with it. The 
box just appears and I can be typing away in an email without realising it's 
there. I'd just like to be alerted properly about it.
I've looked in finder preferences but don't see anything there about 
notifications. Please can somebody tell me whether I can tweak this so it's 
back to how I want it if possible. 
Hopefully this made sense to somebody.

Cheers
Lisette

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Re: Yosemity Itunes

2014-10-21 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
I've just updated to Yosemite and am having a bit of trouble with iTunes. 
How do you see songs in your playlists? I can select the playlist in the table, 
but can't find the actual songs. 
I'm not finding these iTunes changes particularly wonderful, as it's slower to 
navigate around, but I guess I'll get used to it. It's all accessible, just 
less intuitive to me.

I hope somebody does a podcast on navigating iTunes or something as I would 
find this really helpful.
By the way, I'm on a 2011 Macbook pro using Karen with very little lag. I did 
repair disk permissions.

Lisette

 On 18/10/2014, at 11:19 am, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi, maybe I can offer some tips on navigating the new layout.  :)  Keep in 
 mind, I've only been playing with it today.
 
 You can navigate between music, movies, podcast, tones, etc. by command-1, 
 command-2, and so on.  Go to the view menu bar to learn the command-number 
 options.  I just learned if my focus is in the store, the command-numbers 
 will bring me to that section of the store.  Command-1 music, command-2 
 movies, command-4 podcast, and so on.
 
 Lol, I found it tricky to get back to my music, until I remember the lovely 
 item chooser.  Hit command-1 to focus on the music page, then VO-i for item 
 chooser.  Begin typing myMusic and the my music radio button will show up, 
 enter on that and you are focussed the my music radio button, activate it.
 
 Command-B is still around for the column browser, I for one use this feature 
 often.
 
 Something I wondering, but haven't played with, is if it would be possible to 
 use VoiceOver hot spots for the row of radio buttons -- my music, playlist, 
 match, radio, store.  That would be nice.
 
 HTH,
 Traci
 
 On Oct 17, 2014, at 2:43 PM, The Believer ancient.ali...@icloud.com wrote:
 
  Pretty good perspective. It does come down to one's ability to deal with 
 things. Thise who know HOW to work with or around issues are not the ones 
 who go on rants but rather, tyey are the ones who assist the ones who 
 struggle.
 
 Another point you touch on is 'what we are used to'. Change is inevitable, 
 that  we can bet on. But we have control over that too.
 
  Someone suiggested that Microsoft and Google could put some heat on Apple 
 to do better. Not likely. Google while fairly new on the scene, has major 
 accessibility issues that have been in existence from the start. Microsoft 
 has had decades to get it right but one thing different there is that 
 Miccrosoft does not build hardware AND operating systems together as Apple 
 does.
 
  It boils down to one's expectations. Hold them too high and one will be let 
 down all the time.
 
 From The Believer. . .
 . . . what if it were true?
 ancient.ali...@icloud.com
 
 On 10/17/2014 1:54 PM, Cheryl Homiak wrote:
 Interesting how one blind person says the iOS is garbage and Yosemite is 
 close to that too while another blind person is enjoying the new features 
 and using both while acknowledging some bugs and changes. What this tells 
 me is that while there are real accessibility issues, at least some of what 
 is going on has to do with personal preferences and ability to figure out 
 ways to use the system when it changes. Whether Apple is sliding or not is 
 certainly a matter that could be debated but it is true that some things 
 are being done differently than we were used to and while some of them may 
 be fixable bugs some things are permanent changes that we will have to 
 learn to work with. This will be true no matter what system you use. Since 
 anybody who didn't run the beta didn't get Yosemite until yesterday 
 sometime, I would give it some time and work before I abandon it as 
 garbage. You can always sell your Mac so don't throw it across the room 
 whatever you do :-)
 
 
 
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iPad orientation question

2014-09-26 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi all,
I'm asking this on behalf of my husband who is also a voice over user. His iPad 
is locked to landscape orientation, but whenever he goes into spotlight the 
keyboard goes into portrait  orientation. Is this a known bug in IOS8? The 
orientation is definitely locked, and the iPad itself remains in landscape. Any 
ideas?
Mine doesn't do this, and they are both iPad minis with retina. 
Thanks for any ideas.

Lisette

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Re: KNFB Reader iPhone App

2014-09-19 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Donna,
I'm not Kevin but bought the app last night. On my first picture, I got 100 per 
cent accuracy of an entire credit card statement which obviously has lots of 
numbers and weird abbreviations. I spent about a minute lining the document up 
and then took one picture and it was perfect! I never had anything close to 
that with Prismo, Text Grabber or Text Detective. I rarely got the whole 
document there, whereas KNFB Reader helps you line it up if you want it to.
It also does images and pdf images, so it is definitely worth it for me. I'm 
now sorry I wasted the money on those others, but it was all there was at the 
time and they served their purpose. KNFB Reader is now the only OCR app on my 
phone.
It takes about 2 seconds from when the picture is taken to when it starts 
reading, and I'm using an iPhone 5 at this stage.

Good luck with your decision

Lisette

On 20/09/2014, at 6:28 am, Donna Goodin doniado...@me.com wrote:

 Kevin, can you say more?  I'm kind of on the fence about whether or not to 
 purchase it, but so far I'm not completely happy with either textGrabber or 
 Prizmo.  I think the place where I'm going wrong with both those apps is the 
 positioning of the camera.  Does KNFB Reader make that easier?
 Thanks,
 Donna
 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 12:19 PM, Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It just works. I'm glad I bought it.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Gary gary.robl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yep, I know.
 
 Did you get my emails regarding the Macbook configuration?
 
 Gary
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 11:59 AM, Cameron Strife came...@cameronstrife.com 
 wrote:
 
 $100? Ouch.
 
 
 
 
 On 9/19/14, Chris G jedik...@mysticaccesspodcast.com wrote:
 Has anyone bought it for the iPadd with retina?
 Chris
 
 Mystic Access
 Where the magic is in learning.
 733 Delaware Rd 341
 Buffalo, NY 14223
 Phone: (716) 743-8244
 web: www.mysticaccess.com
 
 Accessible Gadgets mailing list:  
 http://lists.mysticaccess.com/listinfo.cgi/accessiblegadgets-mysticaccess.com
 Podcast: www.mysticaccesspodcast.com
 Twitter: MysticAccess
 Twitter: JediKent
 
 
 On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 10:31:02 -0400
 Kevin Mattingly kdmattin...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I just bought it. I will let you know how it works.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 19, 2014, at 10:28 AM, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
 macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:
 
 Apparently the app is $100.
 
 CB
 
 Baltimore, Maryland (September 18, 2014): The National Federation of the
 Blind, the nation's leading advocate for access to print by the blind,
 has applauded the release of KNFB Reader, a new app for the iPhone and
 other Apple iOS devices, which uses the phone's camera and
 state-of-the-art optical character recognition (OCR) technology to give
 the blind instant access to the contents of print materials. Members of
 the National Federation of the Blind have worked with K-NFB Reading
 Technology, Inc., which developed the app along with Sensotec, Inc. KNFB
 Reader is now available in the iTunes app store.
 
 Mark Riccobono, President of the National Federation of the Blind, said:
 The National Federation of the Blind has been involved for forty years
 in the development of technology that helps blind people to acquire
 access to the various print materials that we all encounter from day to
 day. Ever since our first collaboration with Ray Kurzweil to develop the
 Kurzweil Reading Machine, which was the size of a household appliance,
 we have been interested in the development of better and more portable
 reading technology. Print on office documents, flyers, letters, menus,
 labels, and throughout our environment is still a part of everyday life,
 even with the increased electronic transmission of documents. Now
 revolutionary technology that resides on the phones that many of us
 carry each day provides instant access to the printed word. We can hear
 our mail or the menu at our favorite restaurant spoken with the iPhone's
 built-in text-to-speech technology, or read it in Braille with a
 refreshable Braille display. This app will fundamentally change the
 everyday lives of many blind people, helping us to get the information
 we need and live the lives we want.
 
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Re: Typing mode question

2014-09-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I have found the braille to be pretty good on the iPad. I never got MBraille to 
work form me on the iPad, but the Apple braille lets me actually type in 
braille on my iPad. I actually find table top mode easier on the iPad, though 
will probably use away mode on the phone.
There are some bugs but it's definitely usable as is.
Lisette

On 19/09/2014, at 8:30 am, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote:

 Well, I've tried the braille and likeit so far.  It is the same way round as 
 I used mBraille, so a classic - SoFarsoGood.
 
 
 Thanks, RobH.
 
 Ps:  I found 3 different braille tables I could use,  where could I look up 
 a character set for them,  trying to find gems like £$@ and all theo ther 
 stuff we've got used to using on net devices.
 
 R.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 11:46 AM
 Subject: Re: Typing mode question
 
 
 Actually, although I still have a problem, if you do just the opposite of 
 what VO says to do, you can get the dots reversed the way you would on a 
 Perkins brailler. For instance, it says to do the right hand first. If you 
 do the left hand first, it seems to put the dots in the right place. 
 However, I heard VO say dots calibrated, and I got dots in weird places and 
 they seem to be misorganized.
 
 Gigi
 
 On Sep 18, 2014, at 5:43 AM, BobH. long.c...@virgin.net wrote:
 
 Ok, we're on a different issue,  direct typing and the braille are 
 different
 things, all be they both set on the rotor.
 
 I also understand that you can't change the dots1-3 and 4-6 around, so 
 many
 are trying to braille upside down.
 
 Rh.
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 12:12 AM
 Subject: Re: Typing mode question
 
 
 Hi there
 Actually, this appears to work very similar to embryo. I was very fast 
 with
 embryo, but I must be doing something wrong because I can't make the
 keyboard work with braille. Anybody who's tested this thing know what we
 might be doing wrong to make this thing work?
 
 For one thing, I think maybe that I'm not fast enough to calibrate my 
 dots.
 I keep getting the opposite was that I want. For instance I want dots 456 
 to
 be on the right and that's 123 to be on the left, and I can't get in the
 backward.
 Sincerely,
 Gigi
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:01 PM, Buddy Brannan bu...@brannan.name wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Direct touch typing works like this. And it took me a while (and someone
 else's explanation) to fully understand it.
 
 If you've got a *really* good grasp on the keyboard, or have some usable
 vision, it might be great.
 
 Essentially, when you tap a key, the key types. And by 'tap, I mean a
 real tap, with absolutely *no* extra time from when your finger makes
 contact to when you let go. This means that the keyboard acts exactly 
 like
 it does for sighted folks when VO is off. However, if you hold your 
 finger
 on a key, it will speak, just as though you had traditional or touch
 typing enabled instead. That way, you could use split tap if you really
 wanted.
 
 For my part, touch typing still works great.
 
 Now...if I could just figure out how to run Fleksy.
 
 
 -- 
 Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
 Phone: 814-860-3194
 Mobile: 814-431-0962
 Email: bu...@brannan.name
 
 
 
 On Sep 17, 2014, at 6:08 PM, Eugenia Firth gigifi...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi those that know
 What is direct touch typing in IOS 8? I know what the others are.
 
 Gigi
 
 
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Re: voice over not working on i phone, help!

2014-09-16 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
To add to what others have said, this happened to me last week also on an 
iPhone 5. I discovered that voice over was working perfectly well with ear buds 
in, but not without them. So I took the earbuds in and out a few times quickly, 
and all was fixed. 
Hope it's sorted for you.

Lisette

On 17/09/2014, at 4:25 pm, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 From time to time, my iPhone 4 loses voiceover. When all things fail, I turn 
 the phone totally off by holding the power/sleep button and then tapping on 
 the power off button. I wait a few seconds and then power back up the phone. 
 This seems to do the trick. HTH. 
 
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 16, 2014, at 8:54 PM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Also, did you check if your volume could possibly be turned down? To check 
 this, have Voiceover read something with a 2-finger swipe down and use the 
 buttons on the side to turn the volume up. HTH.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White Macbook
 - Original Message - From: alia robinson ali...@gmail.com
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:35 PM
 Subject: Re: voice over not working on i phone, help!
 
 
 mine did this last week. I asked siri to turn vo off and back on and it 
 fixed it.
 On Sep 16, 2014, at 9:23 PM, Caitlyn Furness caitlyn.furn...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 So, on my 5c, vo doesn't seem to be working.
 
 I have tried making sure the mute switch isn't turned to the mute position.
 
 I have tried a triple tap with both two and three fingers and nothing 
 happens.
 
 If somebody calls me, I can then hear vo and can run my hand along the 
 screen and hear stuff on the screen.  But as soon as the call ends, vo 
 goes away.
 
 How in the heck do I fix this?
 
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Removing an email account

2014-09-02 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi
Can I've recently removed an email account I no longer use from the accounts 
table in preferences. The weird thing is that the option to send from that 
email account still appears in the from field when I send an email.
Is there any way to get rid of this option too? 
Thanks for any ideas.

Lisette

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Re: recording Skype calls

2014-08-27 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Chris,
How do you convert files to mp3 using itunes?
Do you mind running me through the steps?
Many thanks.
On 26/08/2014, at 5:29 am, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
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 You could also pop the file into iTunes and then convert it to mp3 there with 
 whatever settings you want. Doing the mp3 compression twice seems like it's 
 going to give you either a larger file, lower quality or both.
 
 CB
 
 On 8/24/14, 11:30 PM, Lisette Wesseling wrote:
 Hi Jenine,
 I just use the native app which comes on the mac to convert it to mp3. It's 
 in the file menu, open with, and then there's a bunch of different options 
 to choose from.
 This does create a rather huge mp3 file which I then compress using mp3 
 converter.
 I found that if I skip this step and used mp3 converter directly on the .mov 
 file, only one side of the conversation got converted. I don't understand 
 why this is. I  would rather not have to use two steps, but it works for me 
 and until I get some mental space to find another solution it does the job.
 I got mp3 converter from the app store, but there are many other apps like 
 it out there.
 
 Cheers
 Lisette
 
 On 25/08/2014, at 10:34 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks much.
 
 What do you use to convert the file to mp3?
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 24, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Jenine , , ,
 I use it all the time. Once set up, it just records the call with no need 
 to do anything i.e. no need to turn it on. It literally just works. It 
 makes a .mov file (even if you choose not to record the video), which is 
 quite a large file. I convert this to mp3 and then compress it some.
 The mov file plays fine in quick look (press space on the file to open).
 Definitely money well spent for me. I know people will say they use audio 
 highjack pro, but I can't get my head around that programme I'm afraid. 
 This literally records  all the voices without you having to turn anything 
 on at the start of the call.
 I find using headphones ensures my voice is recorded better than if I use 
 the speaker on the mac.
 Good luck.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 25/08/2014, at 7:04 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone used Call Recorder for Skype? If so, any thoughts?
 
 I'm wanting to do some interviews for recording and short of buying a 
 phone patch or hybrid, which I may eventually do, I'm open for 
 suggestions.
 Jenine Stanley
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Re: recording Skype calls

2014-08-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Jenine , , ,
I use it all the time. Once set up, it just records the call with no need to do 
anything i.e. no need to turn it on. It literally just works. It makes a .mov 
file (even if you choose not to record the video), which is quite a large file. 
I convert this to mp3 and then compress it some.
The mov file plays fine in quick look (press space on the file to open). 
Definitely money well spent for me. I know people will say they use audio 
highjack pro, but I can't get my head around that programme I'm afraid. This 
literally records  all the voices without you having to turn anything on at the 
start of the call.
I find using headphones ensures my voice is recorded better than if I use the 
speaker on the mac. 
Good luck.

Lisette

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 Has anyone used Call Recorder for Skype? If so, any thoughts? 
 
 I'm wanting to do some interviews for recording and short of buying a phone 
 patch or hybrid, which I may eventually do, I'm open for suggestions.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Re: recording Skype calls

2014-08-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Jenine,
I just use the native app which comes on the mac to convert it to mp3. It's in 
the file menu, open with, and then there's a bunch of different options to 
choose from. 
This does create a rather huge mp3 file which I then compress using mp3 
converter.
I found that if I skip this step and used mp3 converter directly on the .mov 
file, only one side of the conversation got converted. I don't understand why 
this is. I  would rather not have to use two steps, but it works for me and 
until I get some mental space to find another solution it does the job.
I got mp3 converter from the app store, but there are many other apps like it 
out there.

Cheers
Lisette

On 25/08/2014, at 10:34 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks much. 
 
 What do you use to convert the file to mp3? 
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
 On Aug 24, 2014, at 5:52 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Jenine , , ,
 I use it all the time. Once set up, it just records the call with no need to 
 do anything i.e. no need to turn it on. It literally just works. It makes a 
 .mov file (even if you choose not to record the video), which is quite a 
 large file. I convert this to mp3 and then compress it some.
 The mov file plays fine in quick look (press space on the file to open). 
 Definitely money well spent for me. I know people will say they use audio 
 highjack pro, but I can't get my head around that programme I'm afraid. This 
 literally records  all the voices without you having to turn anything on at 
 the start of the call.
 I find using headphones ensures my voice is recorded better than if I use 
 the speaker on the mac. 
 Good luck.
 
 Lisette
 
 On 25/08/2014, at 7:04 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Has anyone used Call Recorder for Skype? If so, any thoughts? 
 
 I'm wanting to do some interviews for recording and short of buying a phone 
 patch or hybrid, which I may eventually do, I'm open for suggestions.
 Jenine Stanley
 dragonwalke...@gmail.com
 
 
 
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Safari and pop up buttons

2014-08-22 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
I've noticed lately that Safari isn't handling pop up buttons well sometimes. 
Last night, I couldn't change the currency type on the Paypal site. Can 
somebody else confirm they're having this issue too on that site?
I focus on the currency button pop up button. I press vo-space to try to 
activate the pop up menu to change it to another type of currency, but nothing 
happens. I've tried interacting, mouse clicking and routing the mouse cursor 
there. VO says it can't focus the mouse to that area. 
Maybe it's something peculiar to my system, but would love to know if anybody 
else is having problems with Safari and some pop up menus like the one on the 
paypal site.
Thanks.

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Skype questions

2014-07-30 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks.
How do you set up a group skype call on the mac? How do you see groups you have 
created on other devices?


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Re: Odd behaviour when starting my mac.

2014-07-23 Thread Lisette Wesseling
I had this happen last week too. I did a complete restart of my Mac (something 
I don't do often at all), and I was asked for my passwords. I'd be interested 
in any answers too.

Lisette

On 20/07/2014, at 5:10 am, Anders Holmberg and...@pipkrokodil.se wrote:

 Hi!
 Not often but sometimes i have to enter my password for evry service i have 
 on my apple account.
 This includes facetime, icloud and imessage.
 But why is this?
 Why do i have to enter it today when i was logged in yesterday.
 Really odd.
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Re: Blind Square - help getting started please

2014-06-27 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Jessica,'It's so worth it. It's the only app I use literally every day. The 
price is very cheap in my opinion. It has got better and better over the years. 
I paid full price for Blind Square and would do so again as I use it so often.

Lisette

On 28/06/2014, at 4:00 am, Jessica D jldai...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have a lot of friends that used it. They love it. I am considering getting 
 it but have not tried it yet due to the cost and the ability that it does not 
 have navigation built in. Is it worth it?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 27, 2014, at 11:42 AM, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi Eleanor,
 
 This is the first chance I have had to open the app. I hope you have read 
 the help info that is documented in the app. There are so many settings that 
 you can select to make the experience of using Blind Square to your liking. 
 
 To answer yourquestion about using Google Maps, this needs to be install on 
 the phone first. When you open Blind Square, you can search for a location 
 or open your My Places to select a destination. Once this is done, at the 
 bottom of the screen in portrait mode you will hear VO annouce route or 
 something like that. Double tap on this and a new screen will open. This is 
 where you can choose the navigation apps for GPS. The native map will be 
 listed, as well as any GPS apps that you have installed. Just double tap on 
 one of them and  the GPS app will open. You then need to  use the GPS app as 
 if you had opened it on its own. There are lots to learn about the app. I 
 know that at applevis.com there have been podcasts produce on how to use the 
 app. I would do a search for Blind Square to pull them up. HTH.
 
 Best,
 Eileen 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Jun 26, 2014, at 11:34 PM, Eleanor Roberts 
 eleanor.robert...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all 
 
 Wondered if you could help me with this one. I've just bought Blind Square 
 and put it on my IPhone, and was wondering if anyone could give me some 
 hints and tips on how to get started please?? For example, do I need to get 
 something like Google maps to use with it? If so how do I get the two to 
 work together?? 
 
 Any help much appreciated, as I feel I'm plunging into the unknown!! 
 
 Thanks. 
 
 Eleanor 
 
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Re: Amadeus Pro file joining question

2014-06-14 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Jenine,
I'm no expert on this, but sometimes I've done exactly what you describe, 
listened back and only heard the one file. When I've saved as .wav and listened 
in preview, all the files are, in fact,  there. It may be something to do with 
Amadeus Pro only playing a section or the selection. You might find the files 
are actually all there. I've not really read Amadeus Pro manuals, so others 
will have more informed comments. 
But just be sure the files are really not all there.
HTH

Lisette

On 15/06/2014, at 8:41 am, Jenine Stanley dragonwalke...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I have 6 files I need to join together to make one single larger file in 
 Amadeus Pro. 
 
 I first thought maybe creating a new project and copying each into it would 
 work but it did not. No matter where I pasted the new file into the project, 
 it and only it was there when I listened to the final result. 
 
 Then I saw Join files on the Sound menu and thought this might work. I can't 
 quite figure out how to get my list of files in order to join. There's a drag 
 and drop area but I'm a little stumped on how that works. 
 
 Anyone use this feature and can you explain it? If not, how can I join these 
 files together to make one larger file? 
 Jenine Stanley
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Re: Skype for Mac

2014-06-06 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Further to what Alex has said, you can see your list of contacts by interacting 
with the table on the left, focusing on contacts, uninteract and move to the 
right with vo right arrow. Keep doing this until you find your list of 
contacts. That's how I do it anyway. 
There's no short cut for answering a call which is a shame, but there is for 
hanging up (command shift h).

Lisette

On 7/06/2014, at 12:50 pm, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 There's a table on the far left; interact with it, vi-down to recent, and 
 under that you will find any pending contact requests. When you get a call, a 
 dialog appears; pressing enter will answer it. To hang up, go to the Skype 
 app and use cmd-shift-h, and cmd-shift-m to toggle the mute status of your 
 microphone on and off.
 On Jun 6, 2014, at 8:46 PM, Lee Jones leejones...@sky.com wrote:
 
 Dear List, I have installed skype on my mac, but I can't figure out how to 
 accept a contact request.  I can't find my list of contacts.  I've been 
 through all the menus and I can't find a shortcut to answer a call.  How do 
 you do this?
 
 Many Thanks, Lee 
 
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Re: Audio description app for IOS

2014-06-01 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Thanks for letting me know the company is no more. I'm glad I didn't spend 
money buying the audio description track. It did seem odd there was only one 
film there which was making me suspicious.
Thanks to all who answered my original question.

Lisette

On 1/06/2014, at 7:31 pm, Steve Holmes steve.holme...@gmail.com wrote:

 The Movie Reading app is the one you're looking for. You have already found 
 it though, based on your earlier messages in this thread. Problem now is Solo 
 DX, the original developers of this app have gone belly up. the better news 
 is that apparently another group is going to offer a similar service. I'm not 
 sure if they will pick up with this app or start over with something else. I 
 forget the name right now. I think there are a couple groups getting into 
 this game so I hope somebody gets going with a successful business model so 
 we can have something more reliable.
 
 On May 31, 2014, at 4:19 PM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Oh wow, will have to check that out, would love an app that could do that on 
 its own though, considering the fact that to my understanding, unless things 
 have changed, it's a pain to set your TV up to do it.  Maybe there will be 
 one at some point though, considering how quickly technology is evolving.
 On May 31, 2014, at 6:24 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I was doing some poking around, and noticed a lot of audio-described movies 
 when I put DVS inthe search field on the app store. I haven't checked out 
 tv shows yet.
 
 Teresa
 
 Winging its way from my iPod
 
 On May 31, 2014, at 9:00 AM, Jessica Moss junglebookfa...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I wish it had the option to have audio description for tv shows instead of 
 theater only, considering the fact that people want to know what's 
 happening on the shows they're watching as well, and it can be a pain in 
 the kneck to set your TV up in order to have audio description, and not 
 everybody wants to hear it.
 On May 31, 2014, at 2:25 AM, Jamie Tachiyama jathlet...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree, it was a disappointment.
 
 
 Jamie T
 Blind Dragon Hobbies
 One stop shopping for all your gaming needs.
 http://www.blinddragonhobbies.com/
 Twitter: @BDHobbies
 Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/blinddragonhobbies
 
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Yes Philomena is still the only one they have. I want to watch that 
 particular film so will use it, but it's a shame there's nothing else.
 
 On 31/05/2014, at 3:01 pm, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I could be wrong but, the last time I looked the only movie available 
 wit the movie reading app is Filamena. I kept looking for a long time 
 because I felt this was a very promising app. I hoped that I would be 
 able to use this app to listen along side without disturbing sighted 
 folks who were not watching the described version on the DVD.
 On May 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com 
 wrote:
 
 From what I got from a post about this app through the Viphone list, 
 yes it does both.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 sorry about that; I was in error. It was misleading, because the 
 description of the app mentions subtitles. I admit that I'm now 
 confused. Does it do both subtitles and audio description?
 
 Teresa
 
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 On May 30, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com 
 wrote:
 
 I don't think this app is for audio description. I think it's for 
 reading subtitles in various languages. That is interesting to me, 
 but not descriptive audio.
 
 Teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is called movie reading 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 Please can somebody tell me what the app is called for iThingies 
 which has the descriptive tracks for movies which gets triggered 
 by the sound track to speak at the right points in the film. I've 
 looked on Applevis under audio description, and also on Google but 
 can't seem to find it.
 Many thanks.
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Audio description app for IOS

2014-05-30 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
Please can somebody tell me what the app is called for iThingies which has the 
descriptive tracks for movies which gets triggered by the sound track to speak 
at the right points in the film. I've looked on Applevis under audio 
description, and also on Google but can't seem to find it.
Many thanks.
Lisette

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Re: Audio description app for IOS

2014-05-30 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Yes Philomena is still the only one they have. I want to watch that particular 
film so will use it, but it's a shame there's nothing else.

On 31/05/2014, at 3:01 pm, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I could be wrong but, the last time I looked the only movie available wit the 
 movie reading app is Filamena. I kept looking for a long time because I felt 
 this was a very promising app. I hoped that I would be able to use this app 
 to listen along side without disturbing sighted folks who were not watching 
 the described version on the DVD.
 On May 30, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Shawn Krasniuk bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 From what I got from a post about this app through the Viphone list, yes it 
 does both.
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:43 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 sorry about that; I was in error. It was misleading, because the 
 description of the app mentions subtitles. I admit that I'm now confused. 
 Does it do both subtitles and audio description?
 
 Teresa
 
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 On May 30, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 I don't think this app is for audio description. I think it's for reading 
 subtitles in various languages. That is interesting to me, but not 
 descriptive audio.
 
 Teresa
 
 Slow down; you'll get there faster.
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 2:32 PM, Jessica jldai...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is called movie reading 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 30, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Lisette Wesseling 
 lisettewessel...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi folks,
 Please can somebody tell me what the app is called for iThingies which 
 has the descriptive tracks for movies which gets triggered by the sound 
 track to speak at the right points in the film. I've looked on Applevis 
 under audio description, and also on Google but can't seem to find it.
 Many thanks.
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Re: notification center

2014-05-25 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Jean,
I think somebody answered your  question about the image reports of no faces  
earlier. It's in the VO Utility / speech / help tags.  By setting it to do 
nothing, help tags, which is what those image descriptions are,  will not be 
announced. 
You won't get any other help tags announced either though. I think there is a 
keystroke to have the help tag spoken on the fly which I can't find right now.

I can't answer your question about the notification centre, sorry.

Lisette

On 25/05/2014, at 6:43 pm, Jean radiofore...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All:
 
 Ever since the last update of Mavericks, the notification center has been 
 driving me mad.  No matter how many times I check do not disturb it keeps 
 disturbing me with this and that alert that I don't care about.  Also, I am 
 getting these messages that say bright, crisp, no faces.  Is this something 
 to do with the camera?  How can I make this nonsens stop?
 Jean
 
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Reminders have gone a bit weird

2014-05-16 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi folks,
Has anybody else experienced their reminders being an hour out over the last 
few days? I have a regular one which is showing correctly to go off at 8 AM, 
but it actually goes off at 9 AM now.
Our clocks haven't changed recently or anything like that.
Just curious if anybody else has noticed this.

Lisette

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Re: how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?

2014-05-14 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
I've been wondering about this too, so am asking another question.
So if my photos are on my Mac in photo stream, do I have to import them into 
iPhoto in order for them not to be deleted when I delete a photo from my 
phone's camera roll? I've been copying them to another pictures folder I made 
just to be safe, but don't want duplicates if I absolutely know they will 
remain in iPhoto even if I delete them from my phone.
Syncing is still something I struggle to fully understand the finer details of. 
On 15/05/2014, at 3:22 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Videos are not a part of the PhotoStream.  Videos need to be transferred over 
 via the USB connection.  When you physically connect the iPhone to your Mac, 
 those videos should automatically be transferred over to your Mac.  You 
 should not get duplicates either, things are normally checked prior to the 
 transfer so that iPhoto will note those items already within the iPhoto 
 Library and not transfer them over to your Mac a second time.  After the 
 transfer is complete, you can find the videos in the Last Import section of 
 your iPhoto Library.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 14, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 thanks 
 Il giorno 14/mag/2014, alle ore 01:17 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com ha 
 scritto:
 
 Hi,
 
 No, not really.  What happens is that pictures taken on an iPhone are 
 automatically uploaded to the PhotoStream if you have that enabled on the 
 iPhone.  Now, thanks, how about those videos, i cant seem to see it,if your 
 Mac uses the same Apple ID and you have photos turned on within the iCloud 
 pane of System Preferences, then you're both accessing the same 
 PhotoStream.  So, when you set the iCloud Pref in iPhoto as I suggested in 
 my last post, those pictures that were automatically uploaded to the iCloud 
 PhotoStream will also be automatically downloaded to your Mac when you open 
 iPhoto.  They will actually appear in two places.  They will be both in the 
 PhotoStream area, which is up in the Cloud, and they will be placed into 
 your Events area and named May 2014 PhotoStream or whatever month it 
 happens to be.  Therefore, if your Mom deletes them from her iPhone, they 
 are actually only deleted from her iPhone, they will remain within the 
 PhotoStream.  If she deletes them from the PhotoStream, then they will be 
 removed from the PhotoStream Library on your Mac too, but, since they are 
 already moved over into the Events area of iPhoto on your Mac, then you 
 will still have a copy of them on your Mac.  Think of the PhotoStream as 
 just a Cloud-based area for temporary storage of your photos.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 13, 2014, at 4:54 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 if my mom would delete it on her iphone would it be deleted on my mac?
 Il giorno 14/mag/2014, alle ore 12:35 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com ha 
 scritto:
 
 Hi,
 
 If you're seeing your iCloud/PhotoStream photos when in iPhoto on your 
 Mac, then they're likely already downloading automatically to your Mac.  
 To confirm, go into iPhoto, press cmd-comma to get into iPhoto 
 Preferences then select the iCloud pane in the Toolbar.  The My 
 PhotoStream should be checked and the Automatic Import should be 
 checked as well.  I don't check the Automatic Upload as it fills up my 
 iPhone too quickly when photos get uploaded from other cameras into my 
 PhotoStream.
 
 Later...
  
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 13, 2014, at 3:48 PM, Dionipher Presas Herrera 
 dionip...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 is there a way to transfer my iphotos on myiCluod  going to my mac, i 
 see all my photos  on my iCluod on my mac, but i can't drag them or is 
 it can i only copy them then delete it on iCluod?
 
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Re: how can i transfer all my icloud photos on my mac?

2014-05-14 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Tim,
Thanks for this. I did see some of those earlier posts but still don't 
understand what you mean by the following:
 If she deletes them from the PhotoStream, then they will be removed from 
 the PhotoStream Library on your Mac too.

How do you delete something from your photo stream on an iPhone. I thought you 
could only delete them from your camera roll, but does this still leave them in 
the cloud somewhere? Still slightly confused but hopefully this helps somebody 
else too.

Lisette 

  
On 15/05/2014, at 10:43 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 If you look way down this post, you should see the answers to your questions, 
 but I'll paste them into here anyway.
 
 If you're seeing your iCloud/PhotoStream photos when in iPhoto on your 
 Mac, then they're likely already downloading automatically to your Mac. 
  To confirm, go into iPhoto, press cmd-comma to get into iPhoto 
 Preferences then select the iCloud pane in the Toolbar.  The My 
 PhotoStream should be checked and the Automatic Import should be 
 checked as well.  I don't check the Automatic Upload as it fills up 
 my iPhone too quickly when photos get uploaded from other cameras into 
 my PhotoStream.
 
 To answer your question about whether deleting photos from your iPhone 
 deletes them from your Mac, read on...
 
 No, not really.  What happens is that pictures taken on an iPhone are 
 automatically uploaded to the PhotoStream if you have that enabled on the 
 iPhone.  Now, if your Mac uses the same Apple ID and you have photos 
 turned on within the iCloud pane of System Preferences, then you're both 
 accessing the same PhotoStream.  So, when you set the iCloud Pref in 
 iPhoto as I suggested in my last post, those pictures that were 
 automatically uploaded to the iCloud PhotoStream will also be 
 automatically downloaded to your Mac when you open iPhoto.  They will 
 actually appear in two places.  They will be both in the PhotoStream 
 area, which is up in the Cloud, and they will be placed into your Events 
 area and named May 2014 PhotoStream or whatever month it happens to be.  
 Therefore, if your Mom deletes them from her iPhone, they are actually 
 only deleted from her iPhone, they will remain within the PhotoStream.  
 If she deletes them from the PhotoStream, then they will be removed from 
 the PhotoStream Library on your Mac too, but, since they are already 
 moved over into the Events area of iPhoto on your Mac, then you will 
 still have a copy of them on your Mac.  Think of the PhotoStream as just 
 a Cloud-based area for temporary storage of your photos.
 
 HTH.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 14, 2014, at 3:33 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I've been wondering about this too, so am asking another question.
 So if my photos are on my Mac in photo stream, do I have to import them into 
 iPhoto in order for them not to be deleted when I delete a photo from my 
 phone's camera roll? I've been copying them to another pictures folder I 
 made just to be safe, but don't want duplicates if I absolutely know they 
 will remain in iPhoto even if I delete them from my phone.
 Syncing is still something I struggle to fully understand the finer details 
 of. 
 On 15/05/2014, at 3:22 am, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Videos are not a part of the PhotoStream.  Videos need to be transferred 
 over via the USB connection.  When you physically connect the iPhone to 
 your Mac, those videos should automatically be transferred over to your 
 Mac.  You should not get duplicates either, things are normally checked 
 prior to the transfer so that iPhoto will note those items already within 
 the iPhoto Library and not transfer them over to your Mac a second time.  
 After the transfer is complete, you can find the videos in the Last Import 
 section of your iPhoto Library.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On May 14, 2014, at 9:10 AM, Dionipher Presas Herrera dionip...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 thanks 
 Il giorno 14/mag/2014, alle ore 01:17 AM, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com ha 
 scritto:
 
 Hi,
 
 No, not really.  What happens is that pictures taken on an iPhone are 
 automatically uploaded to the PhotoStream if you have that enabled on the 
 iPhone.  Now, thanks, how about those videos, i cant seem to see it,if 
 your Mac uses the same Apple ID and you have photos turned on within the 
 iCloud pane of System Preferences, then you're both accessing the same 
 PhotoStream.  So, when you set the iCloud Pref in iPhoto as I suggested 
 in my last post, those pictures that were automatically uploaded to the 
 iCloud PhotoStream will also be automatically downloaded to your Mac when 
 you open iPhoto.  They will actually appear in two places.  They will be 
 both in the PhotoStream area, which is up in the Cloud, and they will be 
 placed into your Events area and named May 2014 PhotoStream or whatever 
 month it happens

Re: expanding andfolders in list view

2014-05-08 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Dave,
So what's the difference between opening and expanding. I mean, if you open 
something, why does one need to expand it as well? I find some folders in 
Finder need expanding, and others don't. Folders deeper in the file structure 
seem to need expanding, whereas ones closer to the surface don't. Do you know 
why this is?
Just curious as I'm still learning so much about the Mac two years on.

Lisette

On 8/05/2014, at 3:23 am, David Taylor e.david.tay...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hi, well, command down arrow not only opens a folder, it puts you in a list 
 of the contents of just that folder. Right arrow expands the folder, so you 
 can see its contents, but doesn't hide everything else, IE expands the folder.
 
 Cheers
 Dave
 
 On 7 May 2014, at 16:14, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Command-down arrow in list view will open a folder, command-up arrow will 
 close it.
 On May 7, 2014, at 11:08 AM, isaac isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi how do you expand the favorites folder in a new finder window.
 isaac
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Re: iOS 7.1.1 and some problems

2014-05-07 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi William,
Yes I have found the same as you. Sometimes, touching different parts of the 
screen and trying to find the start date etc manually helps sort things out. 
But I agree it is a bug and will report it to apple myself.
Lisette

On 5/05/2014, at 9:50 pm, William Windels william.wind...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 
 I thinks since iOS 7.1.1 on my iphone 5, I have some strange problems.
 
 1.In the calendar:
 I can't always changing starting/ending time (date, hours, minutes). When I 
 do a swipe right, I go e.g. from starting hours to ending date.
 And sometimes, When I do a swipe back , I see the fields that where missing 
 but sometimes not.
 This seems the case in all time/date fields in the native calendar app.
 
 2.And a second problem that occur in different native iOS apps:
 I swipe to a button, the button is spoken and when I do a double tab on the 
 screen, I hear the sound like there is no element selected for activation.
 
 I hope that this problems are clearly explained and perhaps someone can give 
 suggestions or confirmations of this problems.
 
 Kind regards,
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Re: window

2014-04-27 Thread Lisette Wesseling
If your braille display has no keys, you won't be able to do anything but read.
 You will have to use the Mac keyboard to quit apps.

Lisette

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 is it normal to have to have the voice over to say safari has no window, or 
 skype has no window? because in my display braille i only see the close 
 botton. i just want to quit the program on my display braille, if i can.
 
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Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
enter.
In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I press 
vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one (with or 
 without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear no row 
selected. Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks for 
any help.
Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
with or without vo keys?
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Re: Selecting non-contiguous items

2014-04-18 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Many thanks. I didn't realise you needed to add the command key to the enter 
and lift it when arrowing down.Oh Kevin, in Mavericks it's command enter, not 
command space I believe. But it works now. Thanks to this awesome list.

Lisette

On 19/04/2014, at 12:12 pm, alia robinson ali...@gmail.com wrote:

 do v/o and command and enter. that will work.
 On Apr 18, 2014, at 8:08 PM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Can somebody please explain how to do this? I'm not having any luck using vo 
 enter.
 In finder, in list view, I'm interacting with the table of documents. I 
 press vo enter twice on the first item. I move down to the next item but one 
 (with or  without  vo keys held down), and press vo enter again. I hear no 
 row selected. Command c to copy to the clipboard does nothing.
 I'm sure I'm doing something obvious wrong but can't figure it out. Thanks 
 for any help.
 Does it not work in list view? Should I interact or not? Should I arrow down 
 with or without vo keys?
 Lisette
 
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Re: iSee - eBook on how to use Apple products from a blind perspective

2014-04-10 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Coming late to this, but I absolutely agree. It's the worst example of iBook 
accessibility I've ever seen. Pity, because it's a great book but really very 
difficult to read with VO. Personally, I would not have released it in this 
state. Sorry if that sounds blunt, but it's how I feel.

Lisette

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 It is really frustrating, as well as ironic,  that it is not readable on the 
 iPhone, or on the Mac if you have not upgraded to Mavericks . . . 
 Christine
 
 On Apr 3, 2014, at 1:06 PM, Chris Blouch cblo...@aol.com wrote:
 
 Just stumbled upon this. Apparently it came out from Vision Australia in 
 January.
 
 http://www.visionaustralia.org/living-with-low-vision/learning-to-live-independently/using-technology-and-computers/blog---accessibility-and-assistive-technology-blog/blog/accessibility-blog/2014/01/17/isee-all-you-need-to-know-on-getting-started-with-apple-products-from-a-blind-perspective
 
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Re: Experience Switching to Mac

2014-04-07 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Another deficit on the Mac is braille translation and music braille 
translation. I have to continue to use Windows for this.
I have also not found a way of importing my old Outlook Express emails into Mac 
Mail. Supposedly some expensive apps do this, but it's not guaranteed to work 
so haven't spent the money. Wy Apple doesn't make this work I don't know.
That said, I love the Mac and use it exclusively for my personal needs. It's 
just some professional tasks I still need Windows for. This includes word 
processing which I, too find clunky on the Mac. But, maybe I need to take a 
course and learn it properly.

Lisette

On 7/04/2014, at 2:06 pm, Phil Halton philh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Personally, I'm still having a tough time with word processing on the Mac. I 
 want to like and use pages, but I can't figure out styles and formatting 
 using pages. I still haven't found anything that compares with MS office and 
 JAWS for writing and formatting documents. JAWS really does work well with 
 Word and there's no getting around that. Pages seems clunky by comparison, 
 but I probably haven't given it a fair chance. Spreadsheeting with numbers is 
 great, but word processing is still a major deficit on the Mac in my opinion.
 
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Dan Eickmeier va3ets2...@me.com wrote:
 
 I've been using a Mac here since February of 2008, and have not  had any
 reason to switch back to Windows.  Like a lot of people on this thread, , I 
 got tired of having to pay to keep a JAWS SMA updated, and I also had it 
 with their system of ILM authorizations.  I too, had  to have my activations 
  reset a number of times as well.  And what got me really interested, and 
 wanting to go to the Mac, is the fact that we can do complete reformats, and 
 OS installs with VoiceOver.  Even with the unattended install scripts that 
 are out there for Windows,  and that Winstaller app, which has become 
 popular now, we still have nothing close to being able to get the  OS, and 
 do an install with full speech, or even Braille.  
 On Apr 6, 2014, at 6:59 PM, BBS bbssh...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Well April, my offr is still on the table. If you like, I can teach you how 
 to use Voiceover. That goes for anyone that wants my help. Email me off 
 list and we'll set something up.
 
 
 Shawn
 Sent From My White MacBook
 
 From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of April
 Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2014 4:52 AM
 To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Experience Switching to Mac
 
 Hello.  About ten months ago, I was declared legally blind.  I have been on 
 the search for a full diagnosis and prognosis since.  No luck.
 
 In December, when my Windows 7 machine became totally unstable, and had 
 been reformatted three times in less than a month, I bought a  Mac.  I 
 figured, if I had to learn a screen reader, it was best to do so on one 
 where the screen reader came built in.
 
 So far, no luck learning how to use the screen reader though.  I can turn 
 on and off.  That's about it.  I have a 40 page list of random commands, 
 and can't figure out what any of the are supposed to do.  A dictionary 
 would help.  Perhaps the lines above or below that don't make sense are 
 supposed to tell me what they do?  
 
 I used to be a web designer, and I thought a screen reader should be easy 
 to learn to use.  After all, I'm good with with computers.  
 
 I'm also horrible with foreign languages, and figured braille would be 
 impossible to learn.  I started the first contracted braille book I'm 
 reading last night.  I started learning braille last November.
 
 I still use a Windows 7 computer at night.  It takes about 15 minutes to 
 turn on, and every scroll of the screen takes forever.  I don't count on it 
 for anything.
 
 On Saturday, April 5, 2014 4:11:11 PM UTC-4, Scott Duck wrote:
 Hi,
 As I have said, I am thinking about switching to the Mac and have been 
 trying to gather more information about it.  To that end, I have been 
 asking specific questions.  I will continue to do that but I would like 
 some general feedback from people who have made the switch from Windows to 
 the Mac.  Why did you switch In the first place?  Having switched, do you 
 feel that it was the right choice for you?  Do any of you regret having 
 switched or have you even gone back to the PC?
 Thanks,
 Scott Duck
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Re: 30-second Delay Before Voiceover Speaks Time

2014-03-31 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
I get about a 5 second delay when I invoke the right option t command. This 
only happens the first time. Then it's under a second. I don't have speakable 
items on.
I'm on a 2011 macbook pro.

Lisette

s very quick if I stay within the same app.

On 31/03/2014, at 5:42 pm, Tim Kilburn kilbu...@me.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I don't believe it to be a bug.  It's within a second for me.  I will check 
 tomorrow on some slower machines to see if they behave differently.  I do 
 recall a long time ago that if you had Speakable Items enabled, this sort of 
 lag occurred.  May not be your issue but thought I'd mention it.
 
 Later...
 
 Tim Kilburn
 Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
 On Mar 30, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
 hi, all,
 
 I think I brought this up awhile back, but don't remember if there was a 
 resolution. i notice when using option-t that it takes an average of 30 
 seconds for VO to speak the time and date. The Braille display takes the 
 same length of time to activate. Is this a bug of some sort? I've noticed 
 this ever since Lion first came out and I updated.
 
 thanks,
 Teresa
 
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How do you follow someone in Night Owl?

2014-03-29 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Subject line says it all? I can't find a keyboard shortcut to do this.
Surely there's a way to follow someone!!

Lisette

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deleting addresses from autofill in mail

2014-03-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi,
Hopefully somebody understands what I mean here.
How can I delete recently sent-to email addresses from mail? I don' mean in the 
contacts, but somewhere in mail there's a place you can see a table of all 
email addresses the Mac knows about and you can delete them. This stops mail 
auto filling that particular email address. I can't find it for the life of me 
now.
Any help appreciated.

Lisette

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Re: deleting addresses from autofill in mail

2014-03-24 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Ah yes, thanks Alex. So easy to forget if you don't use it every day.

Cheers
Lisette

On 25/03/2014, at 4:58 am, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote:

 It's in the Window menu. Go there and choose the Address Panel.
 On Mar 23, 2014, at 12:35 AM, Lisette Wesseling lisettewessel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 Hopefully somebody understands what I mean here.
 How can I delete recently sent-to email addresses from mail? I don' mean in 
 the contacts, but somewhere in mail there's a place you can see a table of 
 all email addresses the Mac knows about and you can delete them. This stops 
 mail auto filling that particular email address. I can't find it for the 
 life of me now.
 Any help appreciated.
 
 Lisette
 
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Re: an annoying little problem

2014-03-19 Thread Lisette Wesseling
Hi Ray,
It does work. I've had somebody on skype listen to me and the Mac through 
external speaker using the built in mic.
By far the easiest way.
Hope it works for you.

Lisette

On 19/03/2014, at 11:25 am, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:

 I am very much afraid that approatch just will not work.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:50 PM, Greg Aikens gpaik...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 If you aren't trying to record it, couldn't you just use your built in 
 microphone as input and your external speakers? It's not recording quality 
 obviously, but depending on what you are doing, this set up will allow 
 someone to hear voiceover and any other sounds coming from your mac. You 
 could probably use whatever microphone you want as long as you are using the 
 external speakers for all of your sound. 
 
 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 5:46 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Well, yes, in fact, I want the person to be able to hear everything 
 including Voice OVer and the app I'm using.  Come to think of it, I just 
 thought of a way.  Plug my microphone directly in to a mixer, plug my Mac's 
 output in to another channel on that mixer, and then, make sure Skype's 
 output is redirected to my griphin iMic and I think that should do it but 
 I'd like a neater solution that doesn't involve doing that.  Otherwise, 
 there's the chance that Skype could ffeedback on itself.
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 4:27 PM, Matt Dierckens matt.dierck...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hmm, in terms of hearing both you and VO? I haven't found a way to do 
 both, but I can just use system audio with audio hijack and do it that way.
 
 Matt Dierckens
 Macintosh Trainer
 Blind Access Training
 www.blindaccesstraining.com
 1-877-774-7670 ext. 4
 
 
 
 
 On Mar 18, 2014, at 5:25 PM, Ray Foret Jr rforet7...@comcast.net wrote:
 
 Okay,
 
 Is there any way to allow a person to whom I am talking on Skype to hear 
 directly what my Mac is doing?  I tried using Sound Flower, Line in, and 
 system audio but no joy.  Any ideas?
 
 
 Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
 built-in!
 
 Sincerely,
 The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!
 
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