If memory serves you can use the items menu to find the restore
button. I haven't used that in a long time though so I'm not exactly
sure. I would recommend that you just access all the backups through
the finder.
J
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
El 08/03/2009, a las 23:34, David Poehlman escribió:
look at firevox to understand this.
Or katie player.
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who knows maybe it'll
catch on. Maybe if you sort of incorperated this description as a
sort of user guide, as alternative to, say, a video which would show a
sighted user the interface.
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Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
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the keyboard commands would be extremely useful to all users so
I'll definitely look into it.
Thanks for all the feedback
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On 9 Mar 2009, at 9:41 pm, Justin Harford wrote:
I wouldn't rely
This problem happens to me at times but its not consistent. I was not
able to produce it here actually but I have seen it before. I don't
really know how I could produce it consistently. Usually just
reseting VO does the trick.
J
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's
This is good clarification. I had no idea how Alex was going to speak
other languages. It would be nice to see apple incorperate this new
synthesized speech into their operating system particularly in the
installation of the OS so that non-english speaking blinks can set up
their
If you guys would look at that URL that was posted you would know that
the voice that sounds like a robot is actually part of the voiceover
component in iTunes itself and unless you are using a mac, it will
revert to that voice. There was no mention of it reverting to your
default voice
, etc. Very annoying on top of all the
accessibility problems this version has given me, and I've basically
exhausted my patience with 8.1
On Mar 15, 2009, at 15:03, Justin Harford wrote:
Hi all
Since downloading the new version of iTunes I have immediately found
that bug
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Enviado el: domingo, 15 de marzo de 2009 5:37
Para: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Asunto: Re: About the new snowleopard Spanish voices in english
Thanks Dan
As well I forgot to mention, in response to John's question, the URL
where the voice samples
We had a poll where we could vote between letting this list go
unmoderated or keep it moderated, and there were a majority who voted
to moderate it. So its curious that now suddenly there are people
coming out of the woodwork saying that they would like it unmoderated.
It's one or the
Strage thing for you guys to try.
Go to
http://www.universia.net/
Interact with the HTML content and press VO U to bring the links menu
up and VO crashes. I'm using the latest build of webkit.
Regards
Justin Harford
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
That would be treu. Though it is not a matter of tables in pages, but
a matter of tables in wordprocessors in general with VO. I had
emailed developers about this before.
J
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator
of good support for
tables in word processors and the lack of support for the Firefox web-
browser. I really cannot understand how Apple can get away with not
supporting tables.
Everett
On 27-Mar-09, at 12:52 AM, Justin Harford wrote:
That would be treu. Though it is not a matter
Pardon but is this a netbook?
J
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
On 04/04/2009, at 18:44, Tiffany D wrote:
Okay. It's the function key that I'm missing on this new keyboard.
Probably shouldn't put it on a virtual machine, those require a lot of
physical resources which I bet a netbook would be pressed for.
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
On 04/04/2009,
I remember a whole bunch of people were complaining about this version
which suggests that apple might fix it in future. Why not just
download the prior version. That's what I did and it works much much
better.
J
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
I went to the apple store to look at one of those. Very small, with
apple earbuds and a little control thing of about 3 buttons that hangs
on the wire. Hold the cener button, and VO reads the list of
playlists, when you hear it say the one you want press the middle
button again. Top and
On 17-Apr-09, at 2:51 AM, Justin Harford wrote:
I went to the apple store to look at one of those. Very small,
with apple earbuds and a little control thing of about 3 buttons
that hangs on the wire. Hold the cener button, and VO reads the
list of playlists, when you hear it say the one
Wow back in my day it was like 40 US.
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
El 19/04/2009, a las 17:42, Jessi Rathwell escribió:
hmm. maybe I'll look into it!!
peace and positivity
Probably should add more ram to it.
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
On 19/04/2009, at 15:54, Andrea, Zeta Vale and Trudy bell! wrote:
Hi there Mark, wow thanks for that. I'm not
of prodding to make it go but you only have to do it once
thank goodness.
Regards
Justin Harford
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
On 22/04/2009, at 15:08, christos hux wrote:
Hi out
He just said he can't scroll down and its because he's trying to use
the VO keys to do it. If he uses the mouse keys it will work. With a
laptop running two fingers down the mouse pad, on a regular computer
holding the button of the mouse and moving it down.
J
Don't worry about the
From here I had to have my mom's help when I purchased readiris
because I can't read the number on the package, what you're thinking
perhaps? I actually went and downloaded readiris off of a torrent…
gimme a break I had purchased it legally already. Anyway, those
illegal downloads are
I think you can adjust that in the itunes prefs.
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
On 28/04/2009, at 3:58, Søren Jensen wrote:
I don't like the podcast feature in Itunes. I wanna
Howdy there
If I already have a gmail account as pop and smtp could I switch it
over to imap?
J
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tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
On 06/05/2009, at 13:53, Jesper Holten wrote:
looks like he beat you to the punch.
Don't worry about the world coming to an end today. It's already
tomorrow in Australia. Charles Schultz, creator of the Peanuts comic
strip.
On 07/05/2009, at 23:06, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
My name i Alex to those of you who don't know. We are
Same old probs so far as I can see with ical. and it pronounces my
name strangely now.
J
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On 13/05/2009, at 8:48, Chris Blouch wrote:
It took me
download or anything. One thing you might do is open the items menu
and search for download since there is some text near the download
link which says as much.
Regards
Justin Harford
On May 25, 2009, at 9:08 AM, william lomas wrote:
hi do any list members on here use send space
Hi answers below
First, what programs would be good for someone in
college, where mostly word processing, and some spreadsheets are
used? I
guess either iwork, or open office is the way to go, here.
LaTeX with TeXShop/TexLive which can be all installed through the
mactex installer
Well they certainly will if you go out and tell them what our people
are doing.
J
On May 27, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
Believe me Apple will persue legal action.
Regards,
Alex,
On 27-May-09, at 11:35 AM, Sean Tikkun wrote:
I think folks don't need to worry about
email back. I remember I did this
once upon a time when my iPod used to work, its definitely possible
with a little googling.
Regards
Justin Harford
On May 30, 2009, at 1:07 PM, rayna424 wrote:
Hmmm, don't know the program? So this does exist though. Does anyone
know how to do
Providing information to a process like copying music from the ipod to
the computer is essentially an endorsement in itself. You have
already dirtied your hands.
Have a good day
Justin Harford
On May 30, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I was wrong. YOu just need Finder
Didn't you just declare that such meddling is illegal, and yet you are
now admitting that you have been engaged in it?
J
On May 30, 2009, at 2:13 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
We are curently working with Aple on the same project, so the boat has
floated. Come join us. E-mail me
OH ok I'm sorry. You said aple not apple. Then we had a
missunderstanding.
J
On May 30, 2009, at 2:39 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
No. I'm working with *Apple*. If Apple does it, it is different.
Regards,
Alex,
On 30-May-09, at 2:35 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
Didn't you just
key management program installed.
Thanks much this looks fun
Justin Harford
On Jun 1, 2009, at 9:51 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I'm including the Beta of VO Time here.
1. Paste the following into Text edit.
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
($second, $minute, $hour, $dayOfMonth, $month, $yearOffset
OOh or option+tab also will write a tab.
On Jun 3, 2009, at 1:01 PM, louie wrote:
Thanks to those who replied to me.
How do I put a tab in the replace edit field of find and replace?
louie
louiem...@wavecable.com
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On Jun 4, 2009, at 4:19 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
first off, dom mode will generally give you more information, that's
the setting I would advise you to use. Second, if you can get the
mouse on the right spot
I tried the wizard a year ago and it did not work for me. Has that
changed?
On Jun 5, 2009, at 7:41 AM, Kevin Reeves wrote:
You could also use the sendspace wizard to download fles. Create a
premium
account, and you shouldn't have to have a max payment plan running
to use
the
tell me how to switch between DOM and Group Modes?
Thanks.
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wdodles
http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html
OK serious question if someone could answer me off list though since
not quite on topic. Where might I go to sell my mobilespeak pocket
license? I'm ready to turn in my win mobile for an iPhone!
Justin
On Jun 8,
I find this both Scandalous that they would make blind people pay them
to customize an imac, and flattering that they would consider
marketing an imac at all.
http://www.rla.com/
Click on the store link, and there is another link request quote for
mac systems
Regards
Justin Harford
I find this both Scandalous that they would make blind people pay them
to customize an imac, and flattering that they would consider
marketing an imac at all.
http://www.rla.com/
Cl
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On Jun 9, 2009, at 6:29 PM, Larry Wanger wrote:
Scott,
In a couple of previous messages you've said that the iPhone will be
on the Verizon network. I'm not sure about the validity of
Not sure if it has but you should send a message about this to apple.
Ask them and let them know that you would like it back. That is how
things get moving, when customers tell the provider what they want.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:28 PM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:
Good evening,
Does anyone know if
The subject line here is complete nonsense.
On Jun 9, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Brent Harding wrote:
Hmmm, I don't think this is necessarily the case. What I'd say it is
is that
it is their terminology for a graphics labeler so that we can label
things
we find in apps that haven't been fixed
Or for that matter, will older macbook and macbook pro models be left
out. I'm pretty sure that the newer notebooks use different touch pad
technology.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Jun 10, 2009, at 3:10 PM, Dean Wilcox wrote:
Hi,
I've been on this list for what feels like a long time, I
Dude all you have to do is go read tech news. They are all talking
about it.
On Jun 10, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Yes, if you call them that is what they will tell you because they
don't even know. The person I spoke to has contacts far beyond the
sales staff. So, am I right
be the
responsiveness. I'd like it to be instant as I put my finger over it.
A bigger objection is the 2-year plan with data that they make you
commit to. Since I can neither conceive of the utility nor the money
to agree to this, I probably will have to skip the iphone for now.
Regards
Justin
Hi there
Simon Cavendish wrote
Has there been a request for a separate list for IPhone?
There has now.
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On Jun 13, 2009, at 4:06 PM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
Won't the widget wrok?
Regards,
alex,
On 13-Jun-09, at 3:37 PM, Maurice Mines wrote:
hi I am looking for a world clock that will with vo I need to know
what time it is in diferent time zonesboth here in the us and in
japan.
Cool. Hey you guys should post a tip about changing your facebook
status with adium. It would be worth mentioning that you can chat
over facebook too. I have never been able to find a win program that
can do this.
Justin
On Jun 13, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Cara Quinn wrote:
Mac-cessibility
Arhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrhrrhrhrhrhr
On Jun 14, 2009, at 10:44 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
On Jun 14, 2009, at 1:29 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
yeah, I don't know how this can be snow leopard since it's not out
yet, unless maybe they got a developer copy? but I'm listening to it
anyway lol
Three
Just turn off the java and plugins under security
On Jun 17, 2009, at 7:46 AM, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
Hi,
I know that Webkit can detect if VO is running, so you may just
request this as a feature. I'm sure non-VO users will approve as well.
It has to come from Apple/The Webkit crew.
No
On Jun 30, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Jane Jordan (Gmail) wrote:
That reminds me of something. Is it true you can buy an iPhone G3
without
the plan download new software for it, and it will talk like the new
ones?
Or basically an iPod touch and get the new software and it will talk
like
I'm curious when we are going to see the other apps that he has been
writing about. They must have one heck of a development team to be
focused on so many different programs simultaneously.
J
On Jun 30, 2009, at 2:42 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Alex, how do you plan to work with the issue of
Lol am I the only one on here who misses hardcopy braille?
Justin
On Jul 4, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Simon Cavendish wrote:
SCott,
Braille is very important to me too. There are some small displays
which perfectly adequate. Blazie have some small displays of 18 to 20
cells and they are quite
Dimming the screen down will at least completely turn off the
illumination, a far cry fromm what most computers will let you do.
On Jul 6, 2009, at 5:43 AM, James Nash wrote:
Thanks Scott,
That is a real shame I think.
Take care
James
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From: Scott Howell
Yes it turns off the backlighth completely, but the pixels are still
showing your desktop, making it discernable if for example you are
sitting out in the sun.
On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:40 AM, James Nash wrote:
No I don't think you are Scott. However, I did read someone that
turning down the
for the
keyboard on the MacBook Pro as well. There is an option in System
Preferences under Keyboard for this and it is to disable keyboard
backlight. Illuminate keyboard in low light conditions and
unchecking as far as I know will disable this feature.
On Jul 6, 2009, at 1:02 PM, Justin Harford
It will.
On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, william lomas wrote:
what I meant to say was I am not sure if voice over itself will ship
with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or whether
we are still locked down to using acapella
On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava
. Granted it won't
be as nice as Alex. It certainly would be crazy to think that Alex is
going to be speaking anything more than English. The synthesizers
will be like those on the iPhone.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:24 AM, James Nash wrote:
If that does happen, that's
If you use LaTeX you are doing quite well. LaTeX is far nicer under
Mac OS X than Windows.
Justin
On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:36 PM, James Nash wrote:
Hi Simon,
Yes I do. i feel sure that if we were to contact them, they would be
more
than helpful. They are now at version 1.3 for Pro. You
in this error.
Best regards
Justin Harford
On Jul 7, 2009, at 12:21 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
Oh, no, you as a blind person do not have a right to know anything
different than anyone else. You are not entitled to know any more than
your sighted counterpart. WHen Apple releases the information about
Alex wrote:
There was Snow Leopard and Leopard accessibility
demonstrations at WWDC both years according to Apple. They just
weren't in the main keynote I guess.
You guess? I just watched a WWDC on snowleopard and saw zero (0)
accessibility demonstration. Sure they mentioned it
Alex wrote:
What I meant is that I felt that someone made a comment of something
that only insiders would know. It was not something that Apple made
public.
OK OK fair enough. I suppose there is a marginal possibility that
apple will defy all logic and not introduce the synthesizer
Alex wrote:
anyways in the
ipod iand the IPhone, t is that of nuance
Umm… is this English that you are writing to me?
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LOL I didn't really notice this until now that you guys have pointed
it out. I personally would prefer that it say the completed addresses
but there you go. It does seem to read the options if you arrow up
and down.
Justin
On Aug 16, 2009, at 1:19 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
It only says
Hello all
Does anyone know if they will offer a student discount for snowleopard
as they did with leopard?
Regards
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I think it's a preference hopefully.
Justin
On Aug 24, 2009, at 1:28 PM, Marie Howarth wrote:
one feature I just read they have in snow leopard is voice over will
now read the whole website to you. I cannot say I'm happy about this,
the one thing about VO I love is it does what I want it
be useful too. Depends on the key command to which you
are adjusted.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Aug 24, 2009, at 3:08 PM, Chantel Cuddemi wrote:
Vo shift function right arrow will fix this. It'll bring you to the
end of the chat.
On Aug 24, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote:
Hi
and Alex. I used
to use Fred, which worked just fine before apple broke it, but truly,
if it is a choice between having low-quality language support vs no
language support whatsoever, I would have to go with the former.
Regards
Justin Harford
. At least
this way, myself and others needn't be left so dumbfounded at the fact
that they would include such clever integration of foreign speech
synthesis and localization in their iPhone, and not in their
computers. It really just doesn't make since.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Aug 25
I sure would like to upgrade but since I depend on Acapela infovox
ivox, as well as LaTeX, I think I will have to wait till both of those
are fixed with SnowLeopard.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:29 PM, Chris Blouch wrote:
Hmm. I bet getting rid of a lot of legacy
Interesting. If I press VO right arrow it definitely won't go past
83%, but if I just press right arrow, it pushes it the rest of the way
to 100%.
Hope this helps
Justin
On Aug 25, 2009, at 12:32 PM, Daniel K. Gartmann wrote:
Hi,
I can't push the slider to never on the screensaver tab.
of people making their wishes known. So, send your suggestion to
accessibil...@apple.com
and keep reminding them from time to time. If you think about it,
this is how many features find their ways into many products.
On Aug 25, 2009, at 3:22 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
I've been thinking more
do wrong. I
try to do this in as civil a way as I know. If you don't agree with
this, then let me know.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Aug 25, 2009, at 1:14 PM, william lomas wrote:
Justin and all, they told me that they would consider it in the future
it is as though they had not even known
Hi all
Would any one here happen to have tried the infovox ivox voices with
snow leopard? How do they work?
J
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I would love to also see someone help them get braille tables in
Spanish. I would more love to do it myself but I don't have the
necessary resources to send them, I.E access to a windows or linux
computer with such tables.
Regards
Justin Harford
On 28/08/2009, at 12:02, Anne Robertson
, but
then they go and break things that worked really well in the prior
system which leaves one wondering if it is really a step forward. I
guess ultimately it might be a step forward. I like the new antonio
voice in the castellian spanish package from acapela.
Regards
Justin Harford
On Aug 29
something here. once I played around with some of the settings
in VO, everything worked great, if not better.
On Aug 30, 2009, at 7:24 AM, Justin Harford wrote:
I found it went faster, about 30 mins, when I did a clean install.
It's sort of more accessible. I mean they improved the internet
as great since the beginning of vo.
Regards
Justin Harford
El Aug 30, 2009, a las 2:07 PM, Marie Howarth escribió:
I'm not having this issue at all I'm afraid.
On Aug 30, 2009, at 9:58 PM, Jessi and Goldina wrote:
hmm, this is odd. cuz didn't it say somewhere that VO was supposed to
act faster
Hi all
So I was using 1 gb of ram with my macbook running snow leopard. I
upgraded it to 4 gb yesterday and am finding that it works noticably
better. So I recommend a a ram upgrade if you are using less than 2
gb lol.
Justin
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Interesting
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be really cool to be able to save
a doc as HTML, code the tables, and save it back as doc.
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was curious if anyone might have discovered these commands at all? I
generaly like to view my PDFs page by page so I get a sense of the
size of each page and the number of pages in a document.
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Awesome thanks.
El Sep 1, 2009, a las 2:05 PM, Barry Hadder escribió:
You use page- up or page down. If you are using a Macbook, those keys
will be fn-up or fn-down.
On Sep 1, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Justin Harford wrote:
Hi all
I was looking at a PDF print preview in the preview program
Hey there
Yep the vo command for select is broken when you are reading a
message, but that interestingly does not mean we can't highlight
text. Just use the conventional word doc commands, shift right/left
arrow, shift option right/left arrow, shift up/down arrow etc. Works
fine.
+ cmd + 8. VO will announce the change. Interestingly enough you
can keep pressing the command toggling back and forth without having
to do pass through, but when you inact another VO command, then it
goes back to the usual condition of not working.
Regards
Justin Harford
with the keyboard cursor.
Let me know what you all find.
Justin Harford
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it. Is anyone
else noticing this unfortunate dispute between their braille display
and their mac? What could we do to help them settle their differences
without giving each other and their owners the silent treatment? ;)
Regards
Justin Harford
Howdy
This really depends on where you are talking about. It has never
worked under email since the days of Leopard (not tiger). I find it
still works under textedit. In safari, has anyone tried that?
Justin
El Sep 3, 2009, a las 8:23 AM, James Nash escribió:
I can't comment right
She was using the context menu.
It is true that we can still use the spelling dialog which is what we
may have to do. I personally have been more partial to the way
without the dialog though.
Justin
El Sep 3, 2009, a las 10:32 AM, James Nash escribió:
I thought you could use the
That maybe so but the old ones still work.
El Sep 3, 2009, a las 12:35 PM, Robert Carter escribió:
Hi,
I am not at home so can't test it but there are new commands for
moving to the next and previous misspelled word. They are vo-e and
vo-shift-e
Robert Carter
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Howdy
El Sep 4, 2009, a las 1:10 AM, James Nash escribió:
Also, Lets be grateful that
NFB et al havne't written a review yet of SL.
Oh heavens no, we wouldn't want them to discover these bugs!
Justin
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I just did this with wikipedia and google opened at the same time and
had no problem.
El Sep 4, 2009, a las 12:53 PM, william lomas escribió:
all the more reason to wait for updates, everyone dives in to quickly
On 4 Sep 2009, at 20:06, anouk radix wrote:
HEllo, yeah so first it crashed
humm this does not work for me. I actually feel like this worked in
Leopard, and probably better.
El Sep 4, 2009, a las 4:43 PM, John J Herzog escribió:
Hi listers,
If you go to google.com, and type in some search terms, you can now
hit the down arrow to cycle through a list of suggested
Howdy
Maybe give us more details on what to do. I typed
192.1.8.1.1
in textedit and had no prob.
Justin
El Sep 4, 2009, a las 5:02 PM, Buddy Brannan escribió:
Hi all,
Wonder who can replicate this? It's sort of important:
Just type in an IP address. Perhaps any IP address, but for
Yep go to view and set it to show single pages rather than single
continuous pages.
El Sep 4, 2009, a las 1:49 PM, kaare dehard escribió:
Was wondering if I could get some tips from you folks. I am reading a
large document in preview, and I am having difficulties getting it to
read from a
I stoped holding my breath with Mariner a couple years ago. I
remember they were going to make accessible software but the years
went by and the versions went by and nothing happened.
I think I'll continue to breathe normally.
Justin
El Sep 4, 2009, a las 7:16 AM, James Nash escribió:
Oh
Yep I reproduced it but it is not in just any old text field like you
said it would be.
J
El Sep 4, 2009, a las 8:27 PM, Chris Polk escribió:
I can also produce this. weird for sure!
On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:25 PM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
Yep, can reproduce this one for sure, very strange.
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