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made to live without sight. > > > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2017 10:06 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: 7 drastic chan

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

groups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2017 10:06 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Kawal, That is a novel idea. Hand a sighted person the blindfold and then? It doe

RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

work telling them what they have to find >> or should be seeing. >> But it's what makes me a very valuable member of my team. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of

RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Kawal, That is a novel idea. Hand a sighted person the blindfold and then? It does not work. You are looking in the wrong place. I know someone who was born blind and he has absolutely no idea what the sighted world

RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

] On Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Tuesday, 8 August 2017 4:01 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Last time I checked, we live in a sited world. That’s pretty much the answer to your sited perspective question. I for one

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ing a lot differently to that of a sighted user. >>>> >>>> I have to teach or instruct sighted users how to use and or setup their >>>> phones or tablets be it an IOS device or android. >>>> >>>> Sometimes it takes a bit of work telling them wh

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kes me a very valuable member of my team. -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. Sent: Monday, 7 August 2017 4:45 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

or >> should be seeing. >> But it's what makes me a very valuable member of my team. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. >> Sent: Monday, 7 August 2017

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of posting the articles is to keep everyone >>> updated on the changing policies, concepts, and general Apple technology >>> news that, sighted or not, affects us all. >>> >>> Finally, there really is no need for an on-list debate as I will continue >>> to post the

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

n Behalf Of Scott Granados Sent: Monday, August 7, 2017 9:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Kawal, I think you’ve completely missed the point of what Apple is doing and I totally disagree with you. These articles are cr

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET > > Kawal, I think you’ve completely missed the point of what Apple is doing and > I totally disagree with you. > > These articles are critical because there isn’t that much

RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

, August 7, 2017 9:00 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Kawal, I think you’ve completely missed the point of what Apple is doing and I totally disagree with you. These articles are critical because there isn’t that much

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alf Of M. Taylor > Sent: Monday, 7 August 2017 4:17 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET > > Hello Kawal, > > First, I fully appreciate the sentiment of your comments for, like you, I am > a visually impaired iP

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Very well said, Scott. Cheers, Donna > On Aug 7, 2017, at 10:59 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > > Kawal, I think you’ve completely missed the point of what Apple is doing and > I totally disagree with you. > > These articles are critical because there isn’t that much of a

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

>> delete/ignore them. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu >> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 7:44 AM >> To: Macvisiona

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Kawal, I think you’ve completely missed the point of what Apple is doing and I totally disagree with you. These articles are critical because there isn’t that much of a difference between our use cases and the sited community. Apple doesn’t view us as a totally different group. We’re not

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cles to the list and those who are not interested can >>> simply delete/ignore them. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf

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t; But it's what makes me a very valuable member of my team. > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of E.T. > Sent: Monday, 7 August 2017 4:45 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Su

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t;> post the articles to the list and those who are not interested can simply >> delete/ignore them. >> >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu

RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Monday, 7 August 2017 4:17 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Hello Kawal, First, I fully appreciate the sentiment of your comments for, like you, I am

RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

ies@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Hello Mark. Thanks for posting these articles. However, I'd prefer to know what is going to happen to the I phone with Voice Over rather than knowing what a sighted person will be able to do wit

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, the primary purpose of posting the articles is to keep everyone >>>> updated on the changing policies, concepts, and general Apple technology >>>> news that, sighted or not, affects us all. >>>> >>>> Finally, there really is no need for an on-list debate a

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

>>> to post the articles to the list and those who are not interested can >>> simply delete/ignore them. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>> [mailto:macvisionarie

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>>> news that, sighted or not, affects us all. >>> >>> Finally, there really is no need for an on-list debate as I will continue >>> to post the articles to the list and those who are not interested can >>> simply delete/ignore them. >>>

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; >> Mark >> >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu >> Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 7:44 AM >> To: Macvisionaries >> Subject: Re: 7 drastic ch

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You are very welcome, Donna and, thank you. Mark -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 8:05 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming

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ries Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Hello Mark. Thanks for posting these articles. However, I'd prefer to know what is going to happen to the I phone with Voice Over rather than knowing what a sighted person will be able to do with an I phone because I don

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

> post the articles to the list and those who are not interested can simply > delete/ignore them. > > Mark > > -Original Message- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu > Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2

RE: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu Sent: Sunday, August 06, 2017 7:44 AM To: Macvisionaries Subject: Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET Hello Mark. Thanks for posting these articles. However, I'd prefer to know what

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

Kawal, My take is this. We do use the iPhone pretty much as a sighted person does but we have the adaptation that comes with Voiceover. The experience really is not that different. If you want the blind perspective, go to Applevis. From E.T.'s Keyboard. . . "God for you is where you

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

OK, I'll be the first to disagree. :) It's true we're blind users, but we can't just put our heads in the sand and be ignorant of changes that impact sighted users. Also, some of those changes, as with the notification and control centers will most certainly impact us. We just don't know yet

Re: 7 drastic changes coming to your iPhone with iOS 11 - CNET

Hello Mark. Thanks for posting these articles. However, I'd prefer to know what is going to happen to the I phone with Voice Over rather than knowing what a sighted person will be able to do with an I phone because I don't use the phone in the sighted way. I double tap and interact with my