[maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2006-01-05 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Federico Mena Quintero wrote: >This is interesting, since pango-1.11.1 has our recent optimizations in >it. > >You mentioned that you were using gettimeofday(). Can you please test >the "pango-profile" module from CVS? It has a slightly more >sophisticated timer, using times(). I've found i

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-29 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, > Note: In Maemo UI user cannot resize windows and applications > themselves do that very rarely for dialogs, so this is fairly > moot point for Maemo. > Try popping up the vkb. Opera takes ~4 seconds to resize the first time. I doubt this is related to Gtk as VKB pops up just fine for other

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-29 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Koen Kooi wrote: > Eero Tamminen wrote: > > >Note: In Maemo UI user cannot resize windows and applications themselves > >do that very rarely for dialogs, so this is fairly moot point for Maemo. > > > Try popping up the vkb. Opera takes ~4 seconds to resize the first time. > I think this is a

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-29 Thread Lassi Syrjälä
Koen Kooi kirjoitti 29.12.2005 kello 23.54: Eero Tamminen wrote: Note: In Maemo UI user cannot resize windows and applications themselves do that very rarely for dialogs, so this is fairly moot point for Maemo. Try popping up the vkb. Opera takes ~4 seconds to resize the first time.

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-29 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eero Tamminen wrote: > Note: In Maemo UI user cannot resize windows and applications themselves > do that very rarely for dialogs, so this is fairly moot point for Maemo. Try popping up the vkb. Opera takes ~4 seconds to resize the first time. regar

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-29 Thread Eero Tamminen
Hi, > These are just some impressions I had on my systems: > * Konqueror has a faster UI than Nautilus > * Opera has a faster UI than Firefox (whereas Mozilla GTK-1.2 > builds were pretty snappy till they switched to GTK-2) > * The Motif and Fox-Ports of Eclipse are MUCH faster then Eclipse/GTK2

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-29 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi Eric, > This is so interesting since GTK+ applications feels so much faster on > all machines I've been using whereas QT once are somewhat slow.. Are > you running them all in KDE? I'm running everything in Gnome and it's > fast enough even on my 800MHZ machine at home. I have to admit that

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-29 Thread Florian Boor
Hi, Nils Faerber wrote: > Have you ever tried recent GPE on a 200MHz iPaq? > I find that very "snappy" too and it uses GTK2... > > The latest GTK release uses Cairo for rendering - which is nice in > general but really a performance hog. But this is only in the very > latest release. I hope and g

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-29 Thread Erik Bågfors
> - Even large QT apps are snappy and very responsive whereas many large > GTK-2 apps tend to be unuseable on slower systems (like my Dorun-800). > 800mhz to render some buttons and layout texts?? > Maybe I am just too old to understand whats going on :( This is so interesting since GTK+ applicati

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-28 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> This thread is pretty funny. Nokia tests 1 version of gtk with different > versions of pango and suddenly people say that *different* versions of > gtk were tested and jump to conclusions Reading-Knowledge is an advantage ;) But I never expect some of the gtk-diehards to tlisten any criticis

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-28 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Koen Kooi wrote: > Clemens Eisserer wrote: > > >>It's disappointing that with every release gtk gets slower... > > > >I absolutly agree - GTK-1.2 has been a nice and fast toolkit but since > >the jump to 2.0 GTK is just one of those "too-bloated-to-be-tuneable" > >pieces of software no one wan

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-28 Thread Koen Kooi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clemens Eisserer wrote: >>It's disappointing that with every release gtk gets slower... > > > I absolutly agree - GTK-1.2 has been a nice and fast toolkit but since > the jump to 2.0 GTK is just one of those "too-bloated-to-be-tuneable" > pieces of s

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-28 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi again, > Have you ever tried recent GPE on a 200MHz iPaq? > I find that very "snappy" too and it uses GTK2... I have to admit that I do not have a lot of knowledge how qualified different toolkits are for handheld use - my observations just showed that GTK2 performs quite poorly on the 770 as i

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-28 Thread Nils Faerber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Clemens Eisserer schrieb: >>It's disappointing that with every release gtk gets slower... > > I absolutly agree - GTK-1.2 has been a nice and fast toolkit but since > the jump to 2.0 GTK is just one of those "too-bloated-to-be-tuneable" > pieces of so

Re: [maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-28 Thread Clemens Eisserer
> It's disappointing that with every release gtk gets slower... I absolutly agree - GTK-1.2 has been a nice and fast toolkit but since the jump to 2.0 GTK is just one of those "too-bloated-to-be-tuneable" pieces of software no one wants to touch since it could break something. And do not argue th

[maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-27 Thread Behdad Esfahbod
Note that many of the optimizations that went into Pango 1.11 only affect the cairo backend. I cannot remember any change that slows down pango. behdad On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, [ISO-8859-1] Tapani Pälli wrote: > Hello, > Here are test results for Pango performance on 770 : > >

[maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-22 Thread Federico Mena Quintero
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 15:15 +0200, Tapani Pälli wrote: > Text 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' is rendered to 20 rows 100 times using > 'sans serif-18' font. > (Each test is renderering 52000 glyphs.) This test could be more thorough. You aren't testing word breaking or the non-latin shapers, for ex

[maemo-developers] Re: testing pango with 770

2005-12-22 Thread Tapani Pälli
ext Federico Mena Quintero wrote: >On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 15:15 +0200, Tapani Pälli wrote: > > > >>Text 'abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz' is rendered to 20 rows 100 times using >>'sans serif-18' font. >>(Each test is renderering 52000 glyphs.) >> >> > >This test could be more thorough. You aren't