Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-27 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Short response to JB: I did not say, or at least it was not my intention to indicat

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-27 Thread Joaquín Bustelo
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 6/7/2010 6:10 PM, S. Artesian wrote: > It's interesting that Joaquin would use th

[Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-08 Thread Leonardo Kosloff
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Just expressing my view, as clear as time allows me to, nothing personal. I have fr

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-07 Thread Bhaskar Sunkara
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == I have to go back and read through this discussion, but I have to add to this point.

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-07 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Sometime Lou, it isn't ALL about you. I was providing a brief sketch of what took

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-07 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == S. Artesian wrote: > Did the bourgeoisie of Mexico suffer? Probably some did. But

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-07 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Well, thanks for that, but as I said to JB privately, I hope he has 60 more birthd

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-07 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It's interesting that Joaquin would use this example of 1963-1965-- interesting beca

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Ambrose Andrews
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 7 June 2010 02:37, Joaquín Bustelo wrote: > > Thus Lenin's pamphlet "Imperialism

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == It's not about gospels, or sin, or being so snide you can claim you're not being sn

[Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Leonardo Kosloff
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == JB: “But if you want to deal with the universe as a whole, you *have* to go Einste

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Joaquín Bustelo
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 6/6/2010 5:33 PM, Shane Mage wrote: > Is India an oppressed or oppressing nation?

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Manuel Barrera
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == > s.artesian wrote: [And exactly what does that have to do with the issues... > '

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == JB: "And you're also not going to convince me to turn against the national movements

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Jun 6, 2010, at 5:15 PM, Joaquín Bustelo wrote: > > No, it's because no matter h

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Joaquín Bustelo
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 6/6/2010 2:22 PM, S. Artesian wrote: > JB has yet to answer any of those refutati

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Joaquín Bustelo wrote: > > adumbrating? ADUMBRATING???!!! > > There's never a mac

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Joaquín Bustelo
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 6/6/2010 9:51 AM, Louis Proyect wrote: > It is also key to Teodor Shanin's "Lat

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread S. Artesian
. - Original Message - From: "Louis Proyect" To: "David Schanoes" Sent: Sunday, June 06, 2010 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production? Send list submissions to: Marxism@lists.econ.utah.edu

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread S. Artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Right, right. Joaquin laid a trap... after laying out what he thought in detail.

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Joaquín Bustelo
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 6/6/2010 9:32 AM, s.artesian wrote: > If people don't want to or are not able to

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Angelus Novus wrote: > Do you think the theory of monopoly capital is correct? That

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Joaquín Bustelo: > Certainly WHATEVER imperialism might be, it is NOT "big states

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Angelus Novus wrote: > Again, using 'imperialism' to denote the fact that large nat

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Joaquín Bustelo
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On 6/5/2010 7:00 PM, Angelus Novus wrote: > A concrete analysis of the relation betw

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis Proyect quoted from: > Karl Marx letter to Nikolai Danielson, 1881 To summa

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis Proyect: > It is not too hard to figure out that he reflects confusion on th

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == s.artesian wrote: > > What's not too bad, but all too revealing is that Louis claim

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread s.artesian
ed in those current relationships, but isn't. That all that is produced is a letter from 130 years ago about Britain's relationship to that India of that time. -Original Message- >From: Shane Mage >Sent: Jun 5, 2010 10:38 PM >To: David Schanoes >Subject: Re:

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == s.artesian wrote: > And exactly what does that have to do with the issues, data, >

Re: [Marxism] Is imperialism a different mode of production? [was Lula to Obama: Drop Dead]

2010-06-06 Thread Joaquín Bustelo
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == > /S. Artesian wrote/ > > It would help if could define what you mean by imperialism

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread s.artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Actually, it was a piece of shit academic "phenomenologist" journal that pretended a

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread s.artesian
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == And exactly what does that have to do with the issues, data, definition, evidence of

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Further thoughts from Angelus Novus inspired by a deeper reading of Kapital: Why al

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis Proyect wrote: > Nov 5 2007 16:43 > #11 > Angelus Novus > User offline. Last s

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Waistline2
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Lenin writes of the "semi-colony," in a specific context, and as the world was bei

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Angelus Novus wrote: > The second sense is just a fancy way of expressing the fact t

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Shane Mage wrote: > In asserting that the "relationships" are between *countries*,

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-06 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Shane Mage: > In asserting that the "relationships" are between *countries*, rather

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Manuel Barrera
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On the other hand, maybe this will help:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAs8gN0j2Z8

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Manuel Barrera, PhD
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == > Anyway, before we go further down this path... since it's data Lou wants, let's >

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Shane Mage
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == On Jun 5, 2010, at 6:52 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: > > Sounds about right. Too bad th

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Manuel Barrera
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Yes, where is Les when you need him Manuel

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == s.artesian wrote: > > What's the big deal. Marx wrote like that. I wouldn't obje

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread s.artesian
Louis Proyect >Sent: Jun 5, 2010 6:52 PM >To: David Schanoes >Subject: Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production? > >== &g

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis Proyect: > If anybody ever finds me writing in this fashion, they have permi

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Angelus Novus wrote: > > Hardt and Negri never take issue with Lenin, they simply

Re: [Marxism] Is Imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis Proyect: > The same thing can be said about Hardt and Negri, who also sought

Re: [Marxism] Is imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Louis Proyect
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Angelus Novus wrote: > > I think that this 'criticism' misunderstands the type of b

Re: [Marxism] Is imperialism a different mode of production?

2010-06-05 Thread Angelus Novus
== Rule #1: YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. == Louis Proyect: > I just took a quick look at their book and--amazingly--for one on