Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Michael Moore: Capitalism has proven it's failed

2009-09-29 Thread Shane Mage
On Sep 29, 2009, at 4:36 PM, c b wrote: What is democracy? CB: My short definition is popular sovereignty. And so CB, coming full circle, endorses the slogan of the slaveocracy, like Douglas in the debate with Lincoln. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always

Re: [Marxism] In Search of Beethoven

2009-09-23 Thread Shane Mage
On Sep 23, 2009, at 5:48 PM, Louis Proyect wrote: Shane Mage wrote: And that is the best of kings adulated by Beethoven, the supposed democrat. Which is to be expected from the composer of a Symphony celebrating Wellington's Victory at the Battle of Vittoria. But didn't Beethoven tear

Re: [Marxism] In Search of Beethoven

2009-09-23 Thread Shane Mage
On Sep 23, 2009, at 6:04 PM, Colin West wrote: On Sep 23, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Shane Mage wrote As for Don Giovanni, it is perfectly true that it is an anti- authoritarian masterpiece, but in exactly the opposite sense from that meant by the liberal critics. To grasp that fact for yourself

Re: [Marxism] In Search of Beethoven

2009-09-23 Thread Shane Mage
-thinker, is the sense of libertine found in the title of the original Don Juan play--*El Burlador de Sevilla*. Mozart, of course, as a Mason and friend of Da Ponte and Casanova, was most certainly a *freidenker*. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always

Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world,

2009-09-20 Thread Shane Mage
capitulation to social-imperialism. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos YOU MUST clip all

Re: [Marxism] WW2: interimperialist war to redivide the world,

2009-09-20 Thread Shane Mage
effort. It most emphatically does not mean refusing to serve in the armed forces or carrying out sabotage--suicidal in some countries and counterproductive everywhere else. I don't see what's complex about that, beyond the inevitable complexity of every concrete reality. Shane Mage

Re: [Marxism] Query on British historiography

2009-09-19 Thread Shane Mage
bombings of Hamburg, Berlin, Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, Nagasaki, etc., etc., were part of a just war; any one who claims that the Bengal famine was part of a just war; is literally, not effectively, denying a holocaust. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Self-reference

2009-09-17 Thread Shane Mage
the receiver off the hook *This foot* came through the line (In prosody, a foot is a metric unit) Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos

Re: [Marxism] This Rewriting of History is Spreading Europe's Poison

2009-09-12 Thread Shane Mage
plebian vonless sort) of German nationalist. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos YOU MUST clip

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] The State and Revolution

2009-09-12 Thread Shane Mage
--in the absence of modern working classes, significant proletarian parties, or meaningful trade unions, (not to mention soviets)--seize state power by electoral means. Who could have imagined how much more *die vernunft* has gotten *listige* nowadays! Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men

Re: [Marxism] Lars Lih on Lenin, Kautsky, and 1914

2009-09-10 Thread Shane Mage
sectarian fit in 1917. Unfortunately, his polemics of 1915-1916 gave useful ammunition to the Okhranik Stalin and the careerist Zinoviev in their 1923-26 struggle against Trotskyism. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Shane Mage
a world-destroying catastrophe! Not to mention the advanced Christians, Jews, and Muslims who likewise trace their descent to a single couple--but have transfigured memory into apocalyptic texts that project the original catastrophe as a future Day of Judgment. Shane Mage This cosmos did

Re: [Marxism] Tweaking of DNA dating on human evolution

2009-09-06 Thread Shane Mage
problem you want to escape. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos YOU MUST clip all extraneous

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-05 Thread Shane Mage
slavs? As well as by your condemnation of the Tibetan and Uighur national struggles against domination by the capitalist Chinese empire? Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out

Re: [Marxism] Voting with feet, not commendable in Argentina Re: China's high speed rail plans

2009-09-05 Thread Shane Mage
) empire in the world. That, presumably, is what is meant by saying that the national question is a class question. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos

Re: [Marxism] Invasion of the (Israeli or Jewish) body snatechers

2009-09-02 Thread Shane Mage
is childishly easy: just exhume Ghanem's body and see if any organs are missing. The refusal of the occupation authorities to do this is presumptive evidence that the story is *not* a blood libel or other slanderous falsehood. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make

Re: [Marxism] Fwd: Kotzer

2009-08-30 Thread Shane Mage
? No wonder the CPC, obliged by its own statutes to call a congress every five(!) years, has not permitted one for more than ten years already, with no sign of one forthcoming in the foreseeable future! Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall

Re: [Marxism] Reasons to Read the Grundrisse (was to read)

2009-08-25 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 25, 2009, at 11:50 AM, turb...@aol.com wrote: Shane Mage wrote: The Grundrisse, as the last word in its title--Rohentwurf-- declares, is not meant to be read at all. It is just the rough draft of Das Kapital... ...Any text that expresses a significant part of a thinker's thought

Re: [Marxism] G.Zyuganov: Stop distorting the prewar history of the USSR!

2009-08-25 Thread Shane Mage
it, provided Hitler the complicit Russian neutrality without which the Wehrmacht High Command could never have been persuaded to invade Poland and automatically set off the Anglo-French guarantee. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall

Re: [Marxism] K2 study guide

2009-08-25 Thread Shane Mage
through the labour performed in transport. This last-named increment of value consists, as it does in all capitalist production, of a replacement of wages and of surplus- value. Exactly. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting

Re: [Marxism] to read?

2009-08-24 Thread Shane Mage
you have the final (or nearly so) version? Comparison with the perfected (Marx) draft of vol.1 and the substantially worked out drafts (Engels) of vols. 2 and 3 with the Grundrisse is a matter of academic literary history only. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make

Re: [Marxism] Silone biography

2009-08-23 Thread Shane Mage
with Guerin's Fascism and Big Business. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos YOU MUST clip all

Re: [Marxism] the truth about James Hansen of the SWP

2009-08-23 Thread Shane Mage
Stalin and Malinovsky in the Bolshevik leadership. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos YOU MUST

Re: [Marxism] Words (was 'Alexander Cockburn RIP'

2009-08-22 Thread Shane Mage
a gramophone Dnieperstroy was essential. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos YOU MUST clip all

Re: [Marxism] Alexander Cockburn RIP

2009-08-21 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 21, 2009, at 3:42 PM, gregoryabut...@aol.com wrote: A screed in which he portrays himself as an Antiabortion Prohibitionist dittohead. YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. Send list submissions to:

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-21 Thread Shane Mage
*means* for conscious direction of evolution, on a planetary scale, are already, or imminently, at hand. And our species will adopt them--in the remote possibility that capitalism has not wiped it out before then. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-20 Thread Shane Mage
are they to be told-- as they are by Antiabortion Prohibitionists (themselves choice examples of disgenics)--that they are Hitlerites? Evil people use good words lyingly, to hide their true purposes. Were Hitler and Stalin socialists? Were Bush and Clinton democrats? Shane Mage This cosmos did none

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] What's wrong with eugenics?

2009-08-20 Thread Shane Mage
, the evolution of our species the object of a *fully* conscious process. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos

Re: [Marxism] Forward from Rosa Lichtenstein on Analytic Marxism

2009-08-13 Thread Shane Mage
. So they all said. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Reaction, fascism, fighting the ultra right and Health 2.

2009-08-13 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:59 PM, waistli...@aol.com wrote: Attacking the ultra right is nothing more than a clever way of demanding unconditional support of the Obama administration Exactly. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall

Re: [Marxism] Clinton: behind the scenes, we were doing a lot

2009-08-09 Thread Shane Mage
On Aug 9, 2009, at 10:27 PM, Eli Stephens wrote: ...when it comes to MY OWN COUNTRY... *your* country perhaps. The workers have no fatherland. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going

Re: [Marxism] Leftist comments on new media law in Venezuela?

2009-08-05 Thread Shane Mage
Castro's shamefaced endorsement of the Russian occupation of Czechoslovakia in 1968) but expressed some real ideological agreement. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out

Re: [Marxism] On who won WWII?

2009-08-05 Thread Shane Mage
Surrender so adamantly insisted on by all the Big Three. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos YOU

Re: [Marxism] Monthly Review's past articles on Iran

2009-08-03 Thread Shane Mage
and Brazil could have been envisaged only as a hypothetical fantasy. A US war against Iran in 2010 can be envisaged only as a nightmare, or as a fantasy conjured up by oil speculators. A US military defeat by Iran is a much less likely fantasy than either. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Partial list of famous musical artists who died as young or younger than Michael Jackson

2009-07-15 Thread Shane Mage
of the species name of the chimpanzee. But pan as genus (not species) name for chimpanzees is taken from the resemblance of chimps and bonobos to the iconography of the Great God Pan. And there is absolutely nothing childlike about Pan. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make

[Marxism-Thaxis] Historical Markers (was Re: Obama’s inauguration address)

2009-01-20 Thread Shane Mage
Hundred years ago the French chose a Corsican as their Emperor Now the Americans have chosen a Black as their President Two Hundred years from now the Jews will choose an Arab as Prime Minister of Israel You should live so long! Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Historical Markers (was Re: =?win...

2009-01-20 Thread Shane Mage
of Obama I thought his name would be Powell. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos of Ephesos ___ Marxism

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

2009-01-07 Thread Shane Mage
On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Charles Brown wrote: Brezhnev was to the left of...Krugman. How many counterrevolutionary invasions did Krugman launch? How many political opponents did he send to labor camps? How many did he imprison in mental hospitals? Was Krugman a Stalinist? Shane Mage

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

2009-01-07 Thread Shane Mage
On Jan 7, 2009, at 2:02 PM, Charles Brown wrote: Shane Mage On Jan 7, 2009, at 1:04 PM, Charles Brown wrote: Brezhnev was to the left of...Krugman. How many counterrevolutionary invasions did Krugman launch? How many political opponents did he send to labor camps? How many did he imprison

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Krugman critiques Obama stimulus plan

2009-01-07 Thread Shane Mage
many political opponents did he send to labor camps? How many did he imprison in mental hospitals? Was Krugman a Stalinist? Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Why is Nationalization A Dirty Word in America?

2008-12-13 Thread Shane Mage
hold on only at public expense, nationalization is not like asking for unconditional surrender--it only takes the guts to just say no. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Trotsky biography recommendations

2008-11-19 Thread Shane Mage
with historical or technical controversy but would still give the reader a good sense of what Trotsky went through and was trying to do The only possible choice is the magnificent autobiography, My Life. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Voting for Obama - yep.

2008-10-03 Thread Shane Mage
with any potential for a meaningful vote is Nader/Gonzalez. Shane Mage It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want--and get it. (Gene Debs) ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-11 Thread Shane Mage
made no personal investigations of that sort he would have been virtually unique among Western (or Eastern!) travellers. Shane Mage This cosmos did none of gods or men make, but it always was and is and shall be: an everlasting fire, kindling in measures and going out in measures. Herakleitos

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Babylonia - Mesopotamia

2008-08-09 Thread Shane Mage
, especially the Thebans and Ephesians. The most successful Persian naval commander was a Greek, Queen Artemisia. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and does not consent to be called Zeus. Herakleitos of Ephesos ___ Marxism

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Hillary going down in flames

2008-05-09 Thread Shane Mage
be lucky to escape lynching. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and does not consent to be called Zeus. Herakleitos of Ephesos ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism-Thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu To change your options

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] ] Aimé Césaire, voice of French Black pride, dies

2008-04-18 Thread Shane Mage
Césaire, even offering burial in the Pantheon--but Césaire's family, his party, and the whole Martiniquaise people reject that. He will be buried in his country, Martinique. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and does not consent to be called Zeus. Herakleitos of Ephesos

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Precis on theories of capitalist crisis

2008-03-25 Thread Shane Mage
capital has been leveraged into fictitious capital rather than invested as real capital. Shane Mage Thunderbolt steers all things...it consents and does not consent to be called Zeus. Herakleitos of Ephesos ___ Marxism-Thaxis mailing list Marxism

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Imus isn't the real bad guy

2007-04-25 Thread Shane Mage
CeJ wrote: ...I never much cared for the Godfather opus... But G 3 at least nailed the Mafia/Curia conspiracy that elevated Wojtyla to the papacy through the murder of Luciani. Give them credit for that. Shane Mage Mortals immortals, immortals mortals, living their deaths, dying

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Logical Empiricism (reformatted)

2005-12-12 Thread Shane Mage
. In my view, the hallmark of all vulgar economics (including the huge amount of it masquerading as Marxist) is the treatment of capital as a mass of things rather than as an amount of capitalized (ie., accumulated) surplus value. Shane Mage When we read on a printed page the doctrine

[Marxism-Thaxis] Re: Marxism-Thaxis Digest, Vol 18, Issue 4

2005-04-04 Thread Shane Mage
A. Mani wrote: ...Chernobyl was an accident...Even during the cold war, the soviets maintained high ecological standards... I may be dating myself, but I must confess to being old enough to remember a time when there was an Aral Sea. Shane Mage When we read on a printed page the doctrine

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