[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology: Dialects and dialectics

2009-12-09 Thread c b
'Is you is or is you ain't my baby is in the Negro American English dialect from the 1940's or so. I've always been curious as to whether or what might be the non-joke pun significance of dialect and dialectics. In the context of discussion of the relationship between language and thought, and

[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-07 Thread c b
CB: On another list some said: :All human activity, from the moment we wake until we sleep, is the domain of inquiry ( of political economy) ^ CB: This is a somewhat interesting if side point ,no ? Political economy is not concerned with the major fraction of human life which is sleeping.

[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-07 Thread c b
In American psychology I recall social psychology. It would seem tp correspond to some extent to prioritizing the social in human individual thought, but don't count on it in the bourgeois academy. Also, national character studies in anthropology are a type of cultural psychology. CB National

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-03 Thread CeJ
All of which brings to mind something I saw at MR--which I do not subscribe to, but do read the MRZINE occasionally. http://monthlyreview.org/nfte091201.php In this issue we are reprinting C. Wright Mills’s “Psychology and Social Science” from the October 1958 issue of Monthly Review. The

[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-03 Thread c b
I believe Hegel's Phenomenology of the Spirit is a sort of psychology. After some of Blunden's discussion, I've been thinking that Spirit in Hegel is roughly culture in the modern anthropological sense - custom, tradition, a certain People or nation's history. So, the title below might be better

[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-03 Thread c b
[edit] Consciousness Consciousness is divided into three chapters: Sense-Certainty, Perception, and Force and the Understanding. [edit] Self-Consciousness Self-Consciousness contains a preliminary discussion of Life and Desire, followed by two subsections: Independent and Dependent

[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-03 Thread c b
CB:I believe Hegel's Phenomenology of the Spirit is a sort of psychology. After some of Blunden's discussion, I've been thinking that Spirit in Hegel is roughly culture in the modern anthropological sense - custom, tradition, a certain People or nation's history. So, the title below might be

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-02 Thread c b
So, phenomenology is psychology. Sounds like quintessential positivism- starting with the individual and trying to derive a fundamental of humans. I see why Husserl is first cousin to the existentialists like Heidegger. They all fall into the bourgeois error of primacy of the individual.

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-02 Thread CeJ
Soviet Cultural Psychology CB: So, phenomenology is psychology. Sounds like quintessential positivism- starting with the individual and trying to derive a fundamental of humans. I see why Husserl is first cousin to the existentialists like Heidegger. They all fall into the bourgeois error of

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-12-01 Thread CeJ
While Pavlov might have denied his status as 'pscyhologist', Vygotsky was considered an outsider to the psychological establishment of his nation. He seems in terms of his reading (who he cites anyway) and understandings rooted in the phenomenological traditions (Brentano and after) which gave the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology.

2009-11-30 Thread c b
Vygotsky was invited to Moscow to take up a position at the Institute and soon formed a research group (the ‘troika’) with two of Kornilov’s young assistants, Alexander Luria, at the time an advocate of psychoanalysis, and Alexei Leontyev. -clip- For all the problems, the old society had been

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-11-28 Thread CeJ
http://www.marxists.org/subject/psychology/works/levitin/not-born-personality.pdf This work gives a lot of information on many of the other Soviet 'psychologists' as well as Vygotsky. It's the best profile of Elkonen I've ever found, albeit very short. CJ

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-11-28 Thread CeJ
And more on the physiologists--Vvedensky, Bekhterev and Pavlov, including excerpts from Vygotsky's take on them (which brings me to the conclusion that Vygotsky actually agrees some with Husserl on the 'crisis'). I think Pavlov had the largest impact on American behaviourists (and remember it was

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-11-28 Thread CeJ
If you will recall--I think JF was referring to previous threads as well--that we were discussing some of this under the 'Vienna Circle' threads (which I cite in this post -- scroll down). All this puts me to mind of Wittgenstein's interest in psychology, which was not simply a late development in

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-11-27 Thread CeJ
JF:This, in part at least, was a consequence of Stalin's regime opting to support the 'reflexology' of Ivan Pavlov and Vladimir Bekhterev. While we in the West tend to think of Pavlov as having been a psychologist, he did not view himself as such. He was trained as a physiologist and he always

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-11-26 Thread Jim Farmelant
On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:40:14 -0500 c b cb31...@gmail.com writes: On his return to activity, the group began to work their way through all the theories of psychology which were contesting the field on the world stage: Freud, Piaget, James, ... critiquing them and appropriating the insights

[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-11-25 Thread c b
On his return to activity, the group began to work their way through all the theories of psychology which were contesting the field on the world stage: Freud, Piaget, James, ... critiquing them and appropriating the insights each had to offer. The group worked collaboratively, discussing the

[Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-11-25 Thread c b
Ilyenkov’s most widely noted contribution was his study of the ideal, of how ideals come into being as perfectly material cultural products, the archetype of which is money. His study of Capital, “The Abstract and Concrete in Marx’s Capital” is a masterpiece. Ilyenkov gained a formidable

Re: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology

2009-11-25 Thread farmela...@juno.com
-- Original Message -- From: c b cb31...@gmail.com To: Forum for the discussion of theoretical issues raised by Karl Marx and the thinkers he inspired marxism-thaxis@lists.econ.utah.edu Subject: [Marxism-Thaxis] Soviet Cultural Psychology Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 11:41:44 -0500 Ilyenkov’s most