Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime warranty. I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure 46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ. Inner, not so good. The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
New Moog tie-rod ends installed yesterday evening, they have a lifetime warranty. I have the MB special tool (201 589 13 33 00, see picture procedure 46-6177) for removing the outer tie-rod end, works like a champ. Inner, not so good. The tool orientation on the inner end puts the tool nut up

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad 2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout. TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I know, I was embarrassed to have to bring it but I forgot the 20 at camp... -Curt From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad A 12

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I've never had the tool. I just back the nut off to flush, then pop it with a short handle 2 pounder. That is done from the bottom, so no clearance problems Clarence. If one is really bad, i've used the pickle forks, but both of mine are gone now, so I just use the LFH. You can adjust toe

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
ATTABOY! Wilton - Original Message - From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad New Moog tie-rod ends installed

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
2 lb at HF is maybe $6 and well worth it for tie rods and ball joints, etc. Mine is maybe 12 over all, so it is easier to maneuver than a claw hammer and has twice the clout. TO take out the tapered bolts on IH H, they say to whack the side of the yoke while applying pressure. I used a

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
going to lift a house you don't use small tools. -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 7, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad 2 lb at HF

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 06/08/2015 2:24 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Too late for that. If I make a command decision and just get'er done, as long as the result is positive then I don't even need to ask forgiveness. Once I open the can and ask the question, then (I've learned) it's just best to keep her

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
: Thursday, August 06, 2015 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad Is it also easier to ask forgiveness than permission? On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 12:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: No. Italian. I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that doesn't mean I can't

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
That'll buff right out --R On 8/5/15 11:53 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: The White Whale aka 1987 300TD has developed a knock in the front suspension / steering over the last week or so. Tonight I finally had a look-see. https://youtu.be/9Oxvp1oHF8E I'm going have to fix that.

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
This must have also been the cause of my high speed shimmy a couple months back. I also found that the front crank seal is leaking much worse now, so also time for a new hub and seal. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Did this get through? - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: No. Italian. I know instantly and unmistakably, good and bad, but that doesn't mean I can't play Walter Mittey (sp?) once in awhile... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Are you asking me personally? On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Did this get through? - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Max Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: No. Italian. I know instantly and

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
(Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior) Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee and the Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so now I'm on Plan B. Plan A was to order the MB tie rod assembly from MB Northlake for $55 plus $10

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Max.Will your wife roll her eyes and say nothing? Then at some later date let you know, subtly, that she was not fooled? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: dillonm

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Through what?FAIL! Did this get through? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: dillonm...@gmail.com (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior) Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee and the Chair

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: dillonm...@gmail.com (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior) Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee and the Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: dillonm...@gmail.com (Andrew: 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300TD, white with blue interior) Plan A has been rejected by both the Chair of the Finance Committee and the Chair of the Social Committee aka COMHOMELANT aka SWMBO, so

Re: [MBZ] This is bad

2015-08-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
her eyes and say nothing? Then at some later date let you know, subtly, that she was not fooled? Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 13:16:37 -0400 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] This is bad From: mercedes@okiebenz.com CC: dillonm...@gmail.com (Andrew

Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)

2014-11-01 Thread Addison Thompson via Mercedes
Dan, I think that your title is wrong. It is a Good Landing by definition - any landing that you can walk away from is a good landing. At least that's what I've always heard during my 40+ years of flying. :-) AT CL500 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com Subject: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes

Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)

2014-11-01 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
That’s what I was thinking….just didn’t recall the colloquialism correctly…. Dan On Nov 1, 2014, at 11:44 AM, Addison Thompson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Dan, I think that your title is wrong. It is a Good Landing by definition - any landing that you can walk away from

Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)

2014-11-01 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Flying Mustangs are now on the endangered species list . The price of admission to that club comes high. I'm sure the owner is happy to be alive, but wallet damaged at the injury to the airplane. I see some extensive rebuilding in the airplanes future... But.. if you think 20 yr. old Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad Landing Makes It a Good Day (Dan Penoff)

2014-11-01 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
And a great landing is one where you can use the airplane again. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Addison Thompson via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 11:45 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Even a Bad

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond
-0500 From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations Message-ID: 27e87fbb-09d1-43ef-bc0b-5056714a2...@email.android.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 80 would be very unsafe; if only one

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-03 Thread Curt Raymond
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS Message-ID: 20140302213937.91f011096ef5b38a29978...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:36:50 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-03 Thread arche...@embarqmail.com
Here are some illustrations and explanations: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_%28mechanics%29 Go down the page to functional description. I think of the drive shaft turning the axles on the planetary gears. When the planetary gear attached to one axle is stopped, the planetary

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS wiki and the US Merc

2014-03-03 Thread Hendrik and Fay
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS Message-ID: 20140302213937.91f011096ef5b38a29978...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:36:50 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very confusing but I need to know

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-02 Thread kdwittne...@yahoo.com
Yes I am running out of problems to chase down with the car just now so this one rises to the top. putting the car on stands and winding up to 80 sounds a bit too much like ferris Buehler s day off,  but is otherwise a fine idea. I didn't follow the bit about 80 on stands without the

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-02 Thread Max Dillon
80 would be very unsafe; if only one wheel was turning, it would be going 160 mph when your speedometer read 80, which might cause that tire to come apart... On March 2, 2014 7:35:34 PM EST, kdwittne...@yahoo.com kdwittne...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes I am running out of problems to chase down with

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-02 Thread Mitch Haley
Max Dillon wrote: 80 would be very unsafe; if only one wheel was turning, it would be going 160 mph when your speedometer read 80, which might cause that tire to come apart... ...or the differential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-02 Thread Dieselhead
Max Dillon wrote: 80 would be very unsafe; if only one wheel was turning, it would be going 160 mph when your speedometer read 80, which might cause that tire to come apart... ...or the differential. Mitch. No, the tire speed rating has to do with heat. THe tire does not heat up spinning

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-02 Thread Hendrik and Fay
OK I'll bite, you're saying that if you put the rear axle up, the rear wheel will spin at twice the speed? How does that work? The magic 2 speed diff option? The input speed into the diff is the same at 80 but the output doubles? That's great, I am going to take one of the tires of the back and

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-02 Thread Craig
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:36:50 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very confusing but I need to know the science behind it, otherwise I'll have to believe in magic, as that is the only explanation I can think of as to why a tire would spin at twice the normal speed.

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations BS

2014-03-02 Thread Dieselhead
On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 14:36:50 +1030 Hendrik and Fay heni...@gmail.com wrote: This is all very confusing but I need to know the science behind it, otherwise I'll have to believe in magic, as that is the only explanation I can think of as to why a tire would spin at twice the normal speed.

Re: [MBZ] transmission rebuilding bad vibrations

2014-03-01 Thread Hendrik and Fay
ooohh that would drive me nuts. My truck had that sort of thing going on, new steer tires and everyhting is good but seeing that you have had tires replaced, we can discount that. Have you checked your wheel bearings, I suppose you would have at some stage in 13 years. Wheel alignment? I would

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-08-15 Thread Larry T
it down. Wilton - Original Message - From: Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news And just when you got it on the road again!!! Sorry! :-( On 7/15/2013 11:30 AM, WILTON

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-08-15 Thread WILTON
'Never heard anything about it from MB tech who did the work on it 17 years and 115 kmi ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news BTW, does MB mention

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-22 Thread Larry T
; cruise and climate controls work nicely - blows ICE COLD, no rust. :) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news If I give up, it hasn't been

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-22 Thread Dieselhead
For dino oils, Penzoil used to be bad about gunk buildup. Havoline never caused problems in my experience. As Larry says, use the proper oil and change it at more frequent intervals for a while. I think M1 will clean the gunk out over time. I do NOT have experience with engines that are

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-22 Thread clay
yes This was for Kaleb and Mao On Jul 21, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Craig wrote: On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:41:08 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done with in the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-22 Thread Larry T
Ditto -- find a quality oil and forget the snake oils - be patient - I have heard about gunk buildupin Quaker State Oils but that's just anecdotal.. I have started using Amsoil and have been happy with it... speaking of which, it's time for an analysis... ;-) Larry On 7/22/2013 12:28 PM,

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
...@crone.us Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Let me talk to Max about this, maybe we can figure something out to get your car sorted if indeed it is the head. I actually don't need another car (and my wife would say I don't need all I have) so

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-21 Thread clay
1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news If I give up, it hasn't been so easily and quickly; 'been nursing this car for 17 ears - since timing chain broke at 89 kmi and I learned about the rod-bender 350's. To give up or to go quietly is very uncharacteristic of me, but sometimes

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread clay
I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done with in the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A reasonable set of tools on hand. Pretty sure we can do the job, as long as you take the lead. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread WILTON
:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Oh, it runs and seems to run nicely; 'fraid to run it so much, though, with fuel in the oil. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Sent: Sunday, July 21, 2013 2:33

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-21 Thread MG
I've always waited till the engine was a quart low and nice and warmed up after a long run. Then add one quart of diesel fuel and let run for 15 min or so then drain and do the normal oil change. Don't know how much gunk it will get rid of since I've never had any but it does keep things clean

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-21 Thread Mitch Haley
clay wrote: I think the shop used a Shell full synth. Shell Helix Ultra is 229.5 oil. Anything else Shell is probably crap. I'd put the right stuff in and change it every 5k until the sludge is gone. Back in the 1980s I worked for a Saab indy who liked to dump a quart of fuel oil in for a

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-21 Thread clay
The shell stuff is what Big O lists. They had to order out for it. Moving to M1 on the next change. I might do a brake cleaner blast at the fill port. Cleaning the gunk from the fill hole will ease my mind. Give it a hot run, use the lubro moly product, spray the cleaner to wash the crap

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done with in the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A reasonable set of tools on hand. Pretty sure we can do the job, as long as you take the lead. Now all we gotta get is Kaleb to pony up

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-21 Thread Craig
On Sun, 21 Jul 2013 12:41:08 -0700 clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote: I do not have a shop or large enough garage. We can get the job done with in the driveway or street. I have ramps, jacks, and stands. A reasonable set of tools on hand. Pretty sure we can do the job, as long as you take

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-20 Thread Peter Frederick
The lower half of the IP is oiled by the engine oil system. If the seals on the plungers fail, it's quite possible for fuel to get into the oil, usually with bad results. Cure is replacement or rebuild of IP. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-20 Thread clay
- Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Interesting. So do head gaskets fail suddenly rather than gradually in the rodbender scenarios? Could the fact

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-20 Thread Larry T
Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news If I give up, it hasn't been so easily and quickly; 'been nursing this car for 17 ears - since timing chain broke at 89 kmi and I learned about the rod-bender 350's. To give up or to go

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-20 Thread Mountain Man
clay wrote: I need you to send a trailer or maybe come out and replace the strut and drive back to okie land. I have no space to park it long term. Take it home for $1500 Roadtrip? oneway amtrak to SEA, one way amtrak from OKC All I need is someone to do the strut. You and me do strut?

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION)

2013-07-20 Thread WILTON
...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 8:11 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news (OIL ANALYSIS QUESTION) I'll send you a kit -- are you still at the same address? Please keep the crankcase attached to the engine til you can run it about 3 or 4 minutes so

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-20 Thread Fmiser
Scott wrote: I suspect the lift pump can also fail in such a way fuel would get into the oil. I know this is true for some designs and may be true of the MBZ design too. It can on the OM616/OM617. The lift pump attaches over a hole in the crankcase. I have never had one leak - but it

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-19 Thread clay
that. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news I got a trailer and $500, can be there soon... I'll bring Max

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news I got a trailer and $500, can be there soon... I'll bring Max. --R On 7/16/13 9:46 PM, WILTON wrote: I don't plan to do any more to it. I'm not physically able to do much to it myself, and I'm

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-19 Thread Curt Raymond
I think if you let it go you'll regret it... Do you have a plumbers torch? Take a sample of the oil, put it on a rock or metal plate or something and hit it with the torch. If its got water in it you should hear a crackle as the water boils off... -Curt Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 22:27:16 -0400

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-19 Thread Scott Ritchey
- blows ICE COLD, no rust. :) Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 1:03 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news If I give up, it hasn't been so easily and quickly; 'been nursing

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-19 Thread Jim Cathey
Isn't the IP the only place where oil and fuel are in close proximity? Somebody 'splain their separation (or lack thereof) in the IP. Lift pump? Fuel return hose accidentally plumbed into the oil system? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-19 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Jul 19, 2013 7:27 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: I'm thinking the extra stuff in my SDL oil pan is fuel (well, most, anyway). I'm with Curt--try setting some of it on fire (safely, of course). That will tell you soon enough whether the dilutant is coolant or duel. Alex

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Curt Raymond
: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Message-ID: 20130717113638.5435e8d2c91ec4e506d6e...@pisquared.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:14:18 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'My thoughts, too, on possible fuel in the oil; 'does look more like fuel than water

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I feel its a shame to not fix this car... I thought Rich and Max _were_ going to fix it, hence the offer of $500 + trailer? IIRC Rich has a replacement engine already lined up ready to go, or ready to donate its head if

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Working on figuring it out. Dum Spiro Spero --R On 7/18/13 10:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I feel its a shame to not fix this car... I thought Rich and Max _were_ going to fix it, hence the offer of $500 +

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Randy Bennell
On 18/07/2013 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I feel its a shame to not fix this car... I thought Rich and Max _were_ going to fix it, hence the offer of $500 + trailer? IIRC Rich has a replacement engine already

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Mitch Haley
Randy Bennell wrote: BUT, we are trying to persuade Wilton not to give up easily and dispose of a beautiful car for $500 (evn if someone else on the list) Randy That evapectomy showed real perseverance. OTOH, he was able to do that under cover of the car's roof and his kitchen ceiling,

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Randy Bennell
On 18/07/2013 10:40 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Randy Bennell wrote: BUT, we are trying to persuade Wilton not to give up easily and dispose of a beautiful car for $500 (evn if someone else on the list) Randy That evapectomy showed real perseverance. OTOH, he was able to do that under cover of

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Larry T
Especially without a little more investigation... LarryT On 7/18/2013 11:26 AM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 18/07/2013 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: I feel its a shame to not fix this car... I thought Rich and Max

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Tim Crone
What Rich said. We're all southern gentlemen, nobody is going to go home disappointed. :) Best, Tim On Jul 18, 2013 10:58 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Working on figuring it out. Dum Spiro Spero --R On 7/18/13 10:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu,

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Tim Crone
On Jul 18, 2013 12:33 PM, Tim Crone bb...@crone.us wrote: What Rich said. We're all southern gentlemen, nobody is going to go home disappointed. :) ...or, I should add, hungry. Even if no parts change hands. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread WILTON
- Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news On 18/07/2013 9:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Curt Raymond curtlud

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread WILTON
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Randy Bennell wrote: BUT, we are trying to persuade Wilton not to give up easily and dispose of a beautiful car for $500 (evn if someone else on the list) Randy That evapectomy showed real perseverance. OTOH, he was able to do that under cover of the car's

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-18 Thread Craig
On Thu, 18 Jul 2013 10:58:36 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Working on figuring it out. Dum Spiro Spero While I breathe, I hope It is the state motto of South Carolina, adopted in 1776. Craig --R On 7/18/13 10:51 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread WILTON
Do I sense a bidding war? ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news I will bring the trailer and more than $500. Sent

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Benz Hogs
ka...@striplin.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 11:50 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news I will bring the trailer and more than $500. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Dieselhead
I will bring the trailer and more than $500. Sent from my iPhone Wow! Kaleb bids more than $500! What is the world coming to? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news I will bring the trailer and more than $500. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Dieselhead
Kaleb, if you had my SDL and Wilton's SDL, you could have a pretty sweet #22 head '91 SDL to drive Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168,xxx mi) Kaleb don lik no pedestrain 126. he b ridin lik prinzez di inna 140. ___

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread WILTON
...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Kaleb, if you had my SDL and Wilton's SDL, you could have a pretty sweet #22 head '91 SDL to drive Luther KB5QHUForest Park, IL '98 ML320 Max (168

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread WILTON
Well, actually, Tim lives in Chapel Hill now. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:55 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Tim Crone in Durham says he also has a #22 head

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Randy Bennell
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Seriously let me know. I could swap an 84 SD! --R (sent from my miniPad) On Jul 16, 2013, at 9:53 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: We may do that. Wilton

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread WILTON
'My thoughts, too, on possible fuel in the oil; 'does look more like fuel than water. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Craig
On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:14:18 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'My thoughts, too, on possible fuel in the oil; 'does look more like fuel than water. Sounds like it is time to send an oil sample to Larry. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Randy Bennell
On 17/07/2013 12:36 PM, Craig wrote: On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 12:14:18 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'My thoughts, too, on possible fuel in the oil; 'does look more like fuel than water. Sounds like it is time to send an oil sample to Larry. Craig ___

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Larry T
: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Cold be either - one kinda of inexpensive while the other probably very expensive as only a replacement head will do. But does water in the oil mean head gasket or cracked head? If the car has not been driven much in a while

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Larry T
300D or SD/SDL could be mighty fine, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:11 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Kaleb, if you had my SDL and Wilton's SDL, you

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-17 Thread Larry T
, $500 and, possibly, Max; keep the 84 SD. Wilton - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 10:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Seriously let me know. I could

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread Tim Crone
an offer close to scrap price. And I have a hundred miles of towing through AAA... Best, Tim - Original Message - From: Chris James c_ja...@gmx.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread WILTON
205 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 15, 2013 11:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news How many miles on the car? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 15, 2013, at 10:58 PM, WILTON wilt

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: 205 kmi. A bit more than half of that on the current head gasket... But does water in the oil mean head gasket or cracked head? I'm guessing that unless the leak in the engine put pressure into the cooling system faster than the pressure cap could vent it, the failed hose

Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread WILTON
Yep; head gasket and bunch of other stuff replaced at ~80 kmi. Wilton - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 91 350SDL bad news WILTON wrote: 205 kmi

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread Larry T
Cold be either - one kinda of inexpensive while the other probably very expensive as only a replacement head will do. But does water in the oil mean head gasket or cracked head? If the car has not been driven much in a while it could be condensation as a outside chance. Unlikely but when a

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread WILTON
stuff in the crankcase is the water missing from the cooling system. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Cold be either - one kinda of inexpensive

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread dseretakis
Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Cold be either - one kinda of inexpensive while the other probably very expensive as only a replacement head will do. But does water

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread WILTON
- Original Message - From: Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 3:06 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Cold be either - one kinda of inexpensive while the other probably very expensive as only a replacement head will do. But does

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread dseretakis
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 8:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Does your oil have a cafe au lait appearance? If coolant is getting in there shouldn't it have that look? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 16, 2013, at 4:40 PM

Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news

2013-07-16 Thread WILTON
PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] '91 350SDL bad news Interesting. So do head gaskets fail suddenly rather than gradually in the rodbender scenarios? Could the fact that you caught it early have saved the engine from bending a rod? If I recall correctly the problem happens at no.1 cylinder. Will you do

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