Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-13 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed *SNIP* Turned on the AC, and nothing cold. next project. I think it is still

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-12 Thread Curt Raymond
] Waterpump change on M103 To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed *SNIP* Turned on the AC, and nothing cold. next project. I think it is still R-12. So i need to find a source for freeze 12

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-10 Thread Peter Frederick
You may bet by with a description -- it goes outside everthing, around the crank (ribbed side in, with the loop going up between the crank and the AC pulley to the tensioner. You will probably have to push the tensioner loose to get the belt on -- the shock tends to extend it to full travel

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-10 Thread Loren Faeth
Yes, tensioner is ok. Idlers are ok. Belt is new. the old one will make a good spare. NO cracks showing. Thanks for the routing. I will go try that. I thought i remembered how it went, but I didn't get it right. I think I am getting it confused with the OM 603 routing. I have found

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Loren Faeth wrote: I had a little time this afternoon, So I tried putting the waterpump = on. Did ok. Maybe a little over an hour to get the front end of the = engine back together. Passed leak test = Here is the problem: I can't remember the serp belt routing. I know I s= aw =

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-10 Thread M.Afzaal Khan
Hi Any idea how long the water pump lasted on the 103 engine? mileage or age period. mak - Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:54 AM Subject: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103 I had a

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-10 Thread Loren Faeth
Thank you Herr Doktor and Herr Frederick. It seems the assembly went faster than the disassembly. I got everything back together in maybe 2.5 hours total, not counting the time to try to figure out the belt routing. But thanks to quick responses I got it all together tonight except the last

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-10 Thread Loren Faeth
PS: If you have the wobble extensions, I think one or 2 of them would work in place of the universal joint. I briefly considered going to buy wobble extensions or taking a grinder to one of my extensions to make a wobble extension before the tape solution occurred to me. I never have used

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-10 Thread Marshall Booth
Loren Faeth wrote: Thank you Herr Doktor and Herr Frederick. It seems the assembly went faster than the disassembly. I got everything back together in maybe 2.5 hours total, not counting the time to try to figure out the belt routing. But thanks to quick responses I got it all together

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-05 Thread OK Don
Those are some of the ones he wins. On 5/4/06, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik Riessen wrote: Problem is they charge book time even if it takes them 2-3 hours, unless you know a very honest mechanic who doesn't like money much. What gets my goat is how, when I have a

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-04 Thread Loren Faeth
Next question: How on earth do you get those 2 back bolts started when you put humpty back together?? I finally got the pump out. What a pain. Sure makes me appreciate a 110/111 and even a 123 240D! It is a nifty design, before they hang on the intake manifold and all the accessories. I

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-04 Thread Peter Frederick
Gosh, I don't remember too much trouble there. Remember the old mechanic's trick of putting a bit of paper over the head of the screw (or over the hex driver) so that it sticks the screw onto the tool. Makes it a bit easier to get a bolt to rotate in a hole. I did the whole job in one shot,

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-04 Thread Marshall Booth
Loren Faeth wrote: Next question: How on earth do you get those 2 back bolts started when you put humpty back together?? I finally got the pump out. What a pain. Sure makes me appreciate a 110/111 and even a 123 240D! It is a nifty design, before they hang on the intake manifold and all

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-04 Thread Loren Faeth
H. THat is why i started this. Coolant dribble from front of engine, unidentified, coupled with a chirp noise. We thought it was probably the WP. In most cases that is the correct diagnoses, but this is my first M103. Now that i got the pump off, a cursory inspection looks like it is

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-04 Thread Loren Faeth
I think peter's 6 hours is closer, but I am being overly cautious I know. If I could pay someone for 2 hours and get it done, I WOULD! (next time) ; ) At 08:16 PM 5/3/2006, you wrote: Loren Faeth wrote: Next question: How on earth do you get those 2 back bolts started when you put

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-04 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 10:26 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103 Next question: How on earth do you get those 2 back bolts started when you put humpty back together?? I finally got the pump out. What a pain. Sure makes me appreciate a 110

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-04 Thread Hendrik Riessen
- Original Message - From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103 I think peter's 6 hours is closer, but I am being overly cautious I know. If I could pay someone for 2

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-05-04 Thread Jim Cathey
Problem is they charge book time even if it takes them 2-3 hours, unless you know a very honest mechanic who doesn't like money much. The whole point of the book time is that you win some and you lose some. A really good mechanic wins more than he loses, and can start making good money,

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-04-28 Thread Peter Frederick
6 hours, almost to the minute. You must remove the bracket for the PS pump, but need to remove the pump, just loosen it. You don't need to touch the AC bracket or pump. You also do not need to remove the screw that holds the heater pipe, it has a slot. A real bear to get back if if you do

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-04-28 Thread Loren Faeth
Danke, Herr Frederick I was guessing it would be a long job because when i was working on the Tandem PS pump i didn't see a way to get the bracket off without first taking the pump out first. Just taking out the tandem pump I thought was a bear. (compared to OM 621/616 engines) That is the

Re: [MBZ] Waterpump change on M103

2006-04-27 Thread Loren Faeth
OK, I should have printed the pages first. there are small print prerequisites on the top of the page that i missed on the screen. It says to remove the tensioner and the waterpump and the air cleaner. It does not say however if the PS pump bracket stays in place or if you remove the pump