Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another...

2009-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
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[MBZ] Window molding?

2009-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] OT for motorcycle guys: cheap '83 Honda Nighthawk CB650 questions

2009-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
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[MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Loren Faeth
240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I

Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread mguzziridr
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Benz Hogs
Is the key slot vertical or horizontal? Vertical is the vacuum/air control position and horizontal is the key locked position. Luther Loren Faeth wrote: I thought the key lock overrides the vacuum lock. I will try starting the car. the vacuum locks work, so if vacuum overrides air, that

Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Loren Faeth
the key slot is vertical. Are you sure about key/vacuum positions? I always found it was opposite. Vertical is locked with key and horiz is open/vacuum locked. At 09:25 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Is the key slot vertical or horizontal? Vertical is the vacuum/air control position and

[MBZ] Changing Front AT seal on 87' 420 SEL

2009-07-09 Thread Ken Rushing
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Russ Williams
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel in trunk

2009-07-09 Thread Tim C
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] '84 500sel transmission?

2009-07-09 Thread Tim C
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Re: [MBZ] '84 500sel transmission?

2009-07-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Tim C wrote: I was hoping you guys were right, but he replied this morning; apparently it won't shift into -any- gear, forward or reverse. It is an automatic. He says the engine sounds fine, so presumably it is in neutral or park. Seems like you'd be able to feel if the shifting linkage was

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another...

2009-07-09 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: . Then I'd have yet another good used diff. If it didn't work out I guess I could build a retaining wall or something. Out of diffs, or 201s? ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For

Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Benz Hogs
I'm 100% sure about them. I've locked/unlocked my SDL trunk about 15 times in the last week. But, if it has been locked by the key, it will have to be turned CCW first to unlock it and allow you to push the button in or allow the vacuum/pressure to work. Luther Loren Faeth wrote: the key

[MBZ] OT some woodworking

2009-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
If anyone is interested I endeavored to make a Rhombicosidodecahedron from wood. I made a little photo album here: http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/Rhombicosidodecahedron/ First effort, some aspects to work out. --R ___

Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Russ Williams
On My 240 both keys will fit into the lock. On SWMBO's 240 the Valet key only goes in half or a little past half way in. Go figure. Loren Faeth wrote: It is the same key that has always worked before, but I will check. As far as I know, the valet key will go into the trunk and glove box,

[MBZ] Interesting 77 450SEL

2009-07-09 Thread Ed Booher
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Curt Raymond wrote: I had the exact same symptom on my 240D last year. In my case all the tumblers had seized inside the lock and I had to cut it apart to get them out. I have no idea what you can do in the trunk situation... Kroil? ATF and Acetone? (4-5 drops inside the cylinder) Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] Interesting 77 450SEL

2009-07-09 Thread Mitch Haley
Ed Booher wrote: CHARITY RAFFLE, 1977 Mercedes, *86K miles* S-Class, Estate Gift - $10 (Ft Wayne IN and NW Ohio) I'm pretty sure that car will not title with the correct mileage. It's over 10 years old, so if you title it in Indiana or Ohio, you will be dismayed to find that your new title

Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking

2009-07-09 Thread R A Bennell
So, is this just to prove you could do it, or does it have some purpose? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT some

Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking

2009-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
Well, I have made some dodecahedrons before, and wanted to do something more complex. I guess to prove I could do it (which I knew I could, but to get it right is the challenge), but also to incorporate such things into unique furniture designs. --R R A Bennell wrote: So, is this just to

Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking

2009-07-09 Thread archer
Very nice, and it looks like you also made the supports for the machine and possibly the bed. Gerry --- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Well, I have made some dodecahedrons before, and wanted to do something more complex. I guess to prove

[MBZ] OT - motorcycles and noise

2009-07-09 Thread WILTON
'Nice and quiet all night last night; 'guess the motorcycle fool/nut doesn't have his bike fixed yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: OT - motorcycles and

Re: [MBZ] OT - motorcycles and noise

2009-07-09 Thread Mitch Haley
WILTON wrote: 'Nice and quiet all night last night; 'guess the motorcycle fool/nut doesn't have his bike fixed yet. Should have written down his plate number as he pushed it home, might come in handy if you need to report him in the future. Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] motorcycling, YouTube'ness and general foolishness

2009-07-09 Thread ernest breakfield
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Loren Faeth
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Ed Booher
up the final tumbler, letting the key the rest of the way into the lock. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/a2f88afb/attachment.html

Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another...

2009-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...

2009-07-09 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
build a retaining wall or something. Out of diffs, or 201s?  ;) Alex -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/c9 6df38f/attachment.html

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Greg Fiorentino
The technical name for those was cruiseliner ventiports! Don't ask how I remember this bit of arcane trivia. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
They first appeared in 1949-and for that fist year only were functional ventiports. Growing up folklore was that guys would pee into the holes. No direct knowledge of that. FWIW Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From:

Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking

2009-07-09 Thread R A Bennell
I sort of assumed it was mostly an effort to prove you could do it. Wondered if you had a use such as a box that opens etc. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:10 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Loren Faeth
Yep Buick had the straight 8, thus the 8 holer. The straight sixes were known as six holer buicks. As GM tried to push everyone toward v-8s, the salesworms made a big deal of selling customers that they needed and 8 holer. I think they still do, even though the holes are vestigal and as

[MBZ] Bodywork - Plastic Bumper Cover

2009-07-09 Thread LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread R A Bennell
My father had a couple of inline 8 Buicks and quite liked them. He said real good power (he probably meant torque) and reasonably good fuel mileage in a big heavy car. He totalled the first one and walked away. Tires were not as good back then. He spun it in the rain and slid into a rock cut

Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Mountain Man
Randy wrote: The insurance company offered him a car in replacement that was much better than the one he had that got wrecked and he was quite happy to tell that story for the rest of his life. Too bad that type of thing doesn't happen these days. It would be a nice change, instead of the

Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking

2009-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread tyler
Car insurance seems like quite a scam- since it's required by law they have a captive audience. If the whole industry together offers bad service and high prices (which they seem to do) there's nothing we can do except pay it anyways, or drive illegally without it. Tyler Mountain Man wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Bodywork - Plastic Bumper Cover

2009-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] the slot

2009-07-09 Thread RELNGSON
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Re: [MBZ] Portholes

2009-07-09 Thread RELNGSON
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread John Freer
Interesting take on this insurance thing but it's not true. In CA and many other stares the law reads you must show Financial Responsibility. How you do that is by posting a Bond with the state or purchasing liability insurance. There is no legal requirement that you have to purchase collision

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Mountain Man
John wrote: And, no liability insurance, no registration which is exactly the way it should be. Well, there ya go - that is why we have insurance. People are afraid of people. Maybe I am afraid of myself, as I am a people. I still remain of the opinion that insurance is a luxury item that we

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread tyler
So you're saying it's not a scam because we have the option of posting a bond? Well, you have to post a bond of 35,000 US dollars which is exactly the same as requiring insurance for the ~99.99% of people who don't have an extra 35 grand laying around for which they don't mind being unable to

Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking

2009-07-09 Thread LWB250
Nice, but tell us more about the CNC machine with the router attached to it... Dan --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: [MBZ] OT some woodworking To: Mercedes Discussion List

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread WILTON
Yeah, I think it was '49, after I sent the first post on 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads They first appeared in

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Mountain Man
tyler wrote: I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving. Really, however, it is the yahoos that drive along with you on the public road that are more the hazard.

Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question

2009-07-09 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:04:16 -0500 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: It is the same key that has always worked before, but I will check. As far as I know, the valet key will go into the trunk and glove box, but won't turn. This is a problem that the key won't go into the slot.

Re: [MBZ] motorcycling, YouTube'ness and general foolishness

2009-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...

2009-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
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Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...

2009-07-09 Thread Dwight E. Giles, Jr
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Re: [MBZ] Insurance

2009-07-09 Thread RELNGSON
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Re: [MBZ] Insurance

2009-07-09 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
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Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good.......

2009-07-09 Thread RELNGSON
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Re: [MBZ] OT - motorcycles and noise

2009-07-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I'm a pretty tolerant person and hate to strip people of their rights but loud motorcycles at any time of the day is really annoying. We can get tickets for beeping but the deafening rumble of a mcycle is ok? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2009, at 1:48 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

[MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder

2009-07-09 Thread archer
Has anyone replaced a burned off fuse seat in the fuseholder assembly of an '83 300d? the part of the seat underneath the fuse looks ok and I can probably solder a new brass seat on to it, but will the plastic assembly withstand the heat of soldering? Thanks, Gerry

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Allan Streib
tyler casi...@usermail.com writes: We should be allowed to take personal responsibility for our actions without posting bond. Personally, I don't drive much and when I do I drive in an extremely safe and careful manner. I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were

Re: [MBZ] Insurance

2009-07-09 Thread Allan Streib
relng...@aol.com wrote: Any car without liability coverage should be off the road. Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: why? Operating a motor vehicle is the one thing most of us do that has any real chance of directly causing the death of another person, or significant property

Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder

2009-07-09 Thread Peter Frederick
REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder

2009-07-09 Thread Jim Cathey
Has anyone replaced a burned off fuse seat in the fuseholder assembly No. Fuse blocks are cheap at the U-Pull. I've never seen one taken, in fact. That's high-temperature plastic, but I'm not sure soldering would hold up, especially if it started to get hot. Spot welding, maybe. I'd say

Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder

2009-07-09 Thread Jim Cathey
REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and

Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking

2009-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder

2009-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
And CHANGE ALL THE FUSES. --R Jim Cathey wrote: REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! -- Jim

Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread OK Don
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Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder

2009-07-09 Thread WILTON
Is there sufficient brass material standing free of the plastic. If not, can you get to the wires on that fuse and move 'em to an unused/undamaged fuse position? You mean the brass part of the fuse holder that sticks upward? Upper part of one of the fuse holders in my 91 350SDL had a short,

Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good.......

2009-07-09 Thread WILTON
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
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Re: [MBZ] Insurance

2009-07-09 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: Operating a motor vehicle is the one thing most of us do that has any real chance of directly causing the death of another person, or significant property damage. If you do so without the means to be responsible for the consequences, you are being negligent. Nobody smart and

Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good.......

2009-07-09 Thread Mountain Man
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads

2009-07-09 Thread Mountain Man
Allan wrote: You are not thinking this all the way through. You know - our whole kulture is formed these days on fear. Fear is not innovative. Fear is discriminatory. Fear loves uniformity. Fear cannot stand diversity. If we all could live with more fear, this would be a much better country with

Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...

2009-07-09 Thread Frederick W Moir
Curt, Dwight, et al. In Olde Yingland, we used cut up nylon stockings to thicken up the diff. oil and quieten down the howling. Also provided some lubrication. On the 87 190DT I changed the diff oil to 85W90 M1 and it has slowly gone quiet. About 5k miles, so far so good. Had a slight whine at

Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good.......

2009-07-09 Thread Hendrik Fay
Calm down Roger, some people don't understand the concept of an accident. I like to think I am a careful driver and have never in 20 plus years hit another vehicle or person but I still have insurance on the vehicles. Why? Because there may come a time when circumstances dictate that I do have

Re: [MBZ] Insurance

2009-07-09 Thread Hendrik Fay
That's BS, all sorts of things can and do happen out on the road. Perhaps you could tell us the grand secret to never having an accident, apart from not driving. Insurance is a necessary evil, designed to protect us from our stupidity and unforeseen circumstances. I just paid AU$4000 to insure

Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder

2009-07-09 Thread archer
The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the

[MBZ] as per the recommendations of MacPoos

2009-07-09 Thread Gary Hurst
I ran virtual box on the mini using an old old version of XP home (from 2001). in truth, not that much smoother than virtual PC used to be. could be i'm not giving it enough ram, but i only have 1 gig on the mini (did you ever dream of the day when you'd say only 1 gig of ram?). it was easy and

Re: [MBZ] Insurance

2009-07-09 Thread Gary Hurst
freak things happen all the time, mostly from other people doing it to my cars. if liability weren't required, i imagine that my uninsured motorist coverage would go through the roof. it costs enough already given that the mexicans don't generally carry any insurance and, as they are largely