Re: [MBZ] Flakey W123 Headlight Switch
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:17:29 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wouldn't trust an aftermarket switch, I'm thinking the same. and OE from the dealer is a bit rich. I have found some on eBay that say they are OEM and are $92. I found one on partsgeeks that's $98. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flakey W123 Headlight Switch
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:17:29 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I wouldn't trust an aftermarket switch, and OE from the dealer is a bit rich. Many of the people with used switches on eBay want $50 for them. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: 124 monovalve testing
Peter, Have you ever taken a valve apart? I'm wondering if that would be a good next step? I don't want to destroy it, if I can't find an obvious problem, I'd like to put the valve back in service. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 31, 2015 6:17:50 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Re-heat won't make the side vents warmer as ALL the air goes through both evaporator and heater core. Side vents will be warmer when the car is hot because there is some heat exchange from the ductwork until the under-dash cools off. If the center vent air is warm when full cooling is called for, or the car is warmer than the setting on heat, the valve is not closing. If you get no heat at idle and plenty when you accelerate from a stop, the valve is sticking closed when it should be open. All of my broken ones have either stuck shut intermittantly or failed to turn off when I wanted no heat. Not much to contribute -- I don't have working AC in either W124 at the moment! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: 124 monovalve testing
Max: Never tried to take one apart, I'll look in the garage tonight and see if I still have an old one around. The real problem is that I don't believe you can get repair parts for them. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: 124 monovalve testing
Probably a good idea. Also check for leaks. Trouble spots are: High pressure line from condenser to receiver/dryer -- this is the first hose to go bad O-rings between compressor and mainfold on top of it, high pressure side erodes O-rings between hose manifold and compressor manifold, ditto Expansion valve o-rings. Occasionally you will find other o-rings in the system leaking, most are fairly easy to replace. Obviously a bad evaporator will not only fail to cool but will let air in -- I have one in the garage I will install in the diesel when I get some time off and feel like it. And I have had a hole appear in a condenser, too, on the wagon. Might have been road damage, but it took a couple years to find it. Now that I have it fixed the compressor won't cycle, so I need to dig around and find out why. Too stinking hot to drive a W124 right now without AC. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: NOW 124 shifter bushings
Thanks Peter! -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 31, 2015 6:19:47 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Take the lever off, it's physically impossible to insert the bushing (or get the rod back in!) with the lever on the transmission. I have the scars to prove it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: 124 monovalve testing
Thanks Peter. Sounds like I should leave well enough alone, charge the refrigerant up and see how that works. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Jeep for Sale
Brand new! http://www.ack.net/NobadeerJeepFire073015.html --R Its a fiat not much different from a brit car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trans shifter bushings
The problem with this EPC is that it doesn't show supercessions, so things like the strip fuses that are most certainly around can show old numbers that are NLA, but have superseded to a newer number. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 31, 2015, at 9:59 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: 3 of em. 000 992 05 10 $4.40 each at atlanta .90 ea at autohaus AZ The other end is a ball socket. I sure miss Rusty It shows 80 A Glow plug fuses AND 50A Glow Plug fuses as NLA not a good sign Autohaus AZ has em for now. I may need to figure out what ga wire melts over 80 amps to make my own fusible links 16 GA stranded wire works as an emergency sub for the 30 A heater strip fuse on the SDL. Then use this one: http://www.mbpartsworld.com It's generic in the sense that it doesn't use your VIN, but it will get you close if not there. Prices are actually decent, too, if you're looking for point of reference. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:34 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope. Never can make it work. don't have winders/whatever browser it wants/whatever java/javascript/whatever else it wants. Have you checked the EPC? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 30, 2015 6:22:47 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyone know for sure how many bushings are needed for the 4 speed manual transmission? I think it is three, one for each rod, and the other end has an adjuster with a key, so no bushing is needed. Is this right? Thanks 1980 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 monovalve testing
Last night I rigged a 10w test light bulb to the monovalve control signal connector (21w is too big, overdraws the PBU and it shuts off to self-protect). The bulb test showed proper result for one test in the FSM: put the PBU into off state (button 0 on the far right) and read voltage, which is supposed to be over 11 volts nominal. The bulb stayed on bright continuously, indicating the monovalve would be held in the closed position. Voltage was 13 volts (engine running). The other test result is undetermined. With the temp. selector wheel on Min and AC engaged, the bulb would stay lit for 3-4 seconds, then briefly shut off for about half a second, and repeat that cycle. I didn't try reading the voltage with my cheapo DMM from Harbor Freight. What says the collective wisdom? Original problem I'm trying to solve is that the AC cooled air from the side vents is warmer than the AC cooled air from the center vent. Now I don't have a full charge in the system, after I replaced the condenser I put in just enough R134 to get the system running for an operational test and check for leaks, and so it's only got about 10-12 oz of R134. Maybe I should fully charge and stop complaining? I've got some hydrocarbon-based refrigerant to test next. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trans shifter bushings
BTW, the identical Bosch 30 amp fusible link for MB blowers is available at VW stealers. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, July 31, 2015 9:59 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 trans shifter bushings 3 of em. 000 992 05 10 $4.40 each at atlanta .90 ea at autohaus AZ The other end is a ball socket. I sure miss Rusty It shows 80 A Glow plug fuses AND 50A Glow Plug fuses as NLA not a good sign Autohaus AZ has em for now. I may need to figure out what ga wire melts over 80 amps to make my own fusible links 16 GA stranded wire works as an emergency sub for the 30 A heater strip fuse on the SDL. Then use this one: http://www.mbpartsworld.com It's generic in the sense that it doesn't use your VIN, but it will get you close if not there. Prices are actually decent, too, if you're looking for point of reference. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 30, 2015, at 11:34 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope. Never can make it work. don't have winders/whatever browser it wants/whatever java/javascript/whatever else it wants. Have you checked the EPC? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On July 30, 2015 6:22:47 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Anyone know for sure how many bushings are needed for the 4 speed manual transmission? I think it is three, one for each rod, and the other end has an adjuster with a key, so no bushing is needed. Is this right? Thanks 1980 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Jeep for Sale
OnStar is GM... Curt Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] NOW 124 shifter bushings
Last night I installed a new 124 shifter bushing for the connection at the gear shift lever. Not too fun but just possible without taking too much apart. The bushing at the transmission end is also gone and needs to be replaced, looks REALLY tight and not possible in-situ. Has anyone removed the shift lever arm from the side of the transmission in order to get that bushing in? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trans shifter bushings
Here's another online EPC: http://mercedes-benz-teile.info/?lang=E - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 11:34 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Nope. Never can make it work. don't have winders/whatever browser it wants/whatever java/javascript/whatever else it wants. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW 124 shifter bushings
yes. 124 and 107 Last night I installed a new 124 shifter bushing for the connection at the gear shift lever. Not too fun but just possible without taking too much apart. The bushing at the transmission end is also gone and needs to be replaced, looks REALLY tight and not possible in-situ. Has anyone removed the shift lever arm from the side of the transmission in order to get that bushing in? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW 124 shifter bushings
Thanks, I will probably take that lever off then. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:32 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: yes. 124 and 107 Last night I installed a new 124 shifter bushing for the connection at the gear shift lever. Not too fun but just possible without taking too much apart. The bushing at the transmission end is also gone and needs to be replaced, looks REALLY tight and not possible in-situ. Has anyone removed the shift lever arm from the side of the transmission in order to get that bushing in? - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
Curly wrote: I've been feedin em rat poison. works well in winter and spring, but not when they can invade the garden. Need a good pellet gun for them and hasenpfeffer. The trouble with poison is it doesn't stop with the pest. The natural pest controllers will probably die too. That is, the owls, hawks, coyote, bobcat, etc. that eat the pests will usually target the weak and slow - that is the poisoned-but-not-yet-dead pest. After ingesting a poisoned chipmunk or two the predator also dies. Which certainly doesn't discourage the pest population. Yet there are times when poison seems the only effective method. I guess I'm saying please think a moment and be sure before using poison. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
Furthermore, they will go off and die under my deck, then decompose and stink me out of the place. On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 3:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: I've been feedin em rat poison. works well in winter and spring, but not when they can invade the garden. Need a good pellet gun for them and hasenpfeffer. The trouble with poison is it doesn't stop with the pest. The natural pest controllers will probably die too. That is, the owls, hawks, coyote, bobcat, etc. that eat the pests will usually target the weak and slow - that is the poisoned-but-not-yet-dead pest. After ingesting a poisoned chipmunk or two the predator also dies. Which certainly doesn't discourage the pest population. Yet there are times when poison seems the only effective method. I guess I'm saying please think a moment and be sure before using poison. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NOW 124 shifter bushings
Lever in question is circled in red in attached picture. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Meade Dillon dillonm...@gmail.com wrote: Last night I installed a new 124 shifter bushing for the connection at the gear shift lever. Not too fun but just possible without taking too much apart. The bushing at the transmission end is also gone and needs to be replaced, looks REALLY tight and not possible in-situ. Has anyone removed the shift lever arm from the side of the transmission in order to get that bushing in? - Max Charleston SC -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 124 transmission_shift lever.png Type: image/png Size: 51521 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150731/3fe7a141/attachment.png ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: [ SPAM ] Re: This is funny
A poisoned mouse or rat killed our first cat - it was not pleasant to watch her convulse on the dining room floor, a few weeks after giving birth to her first kitten. On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 2:53 PM, fmiser via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Curly wrote: I've been feedin em rat poison. works well in winter and spring, but not when they can invade the garden. Need a good pellet gun for them and hasenpfeffer. The trouble with poison is it doesn't stop with the pest. The natural pest controllers will probably die too. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Jeep for Sale
So the On Star system didn't call for help automatically? How disappointing... Spontaneous combustion feature wasn't supposed to activate until the last payment is made, was it? Apparently,,, owner did not replace ALL the fuses... Recall anyone? On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 7:09 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Brand new! http://www.ack.net/NobadeerJeepFire073015.html --R Its a fiat not much different from a brit car. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] chipmunks Wuz: This is funny
I will box up the rotten carcases and ship them to Iowa where you can compost them in your tomato patch. On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Furthermore, they will go off and die under my deck, then decompose and stink me out of the place. I love the smell of napalm in the morning! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] chipmunks Wuz: This is funny
Furthermore, they will go off and die under my deck, then decompose and stink me out of the place. I love the smell of napalm in the morning! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: NOW 124 shifter bushings
Take the lever off, it's physically impossible to insert the bushing (or get the rod back in!) with the lever on the transmission. I have the scars to prove it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Flakey W123 Headlight Switch
I went to drive down to Albuquerque recently before sunrise and found the instrument cluster lights came on in the running light position of the light switch of our '82 240D/3.0, but when I switched to the headlight position, the instrument cluster lights went off. I fiddled with the switch but could not make them both come on simultaneously. It was either the instrument cluster lights or the headlights. I chose headlights. :-) Has anyone worked with these switches? Is it possible to get it working properly again, or do I need to look for a new one? With Dan mentioning Rock Auto yesterday, I looked there, but they offer no headlight switch. I have not loosed elsewhere. Thanks, Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flakey W123 Headlight Switch
I had the headlight switch in my '95 124 sedan get wonky; one night it was very stiff. It did turn on, but the detente feel was never right after that, so I found a junkyard replacement. I wouldn't trust an aftermarket switch, and OE from the dealer is a bit rich. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trans shifter bushings
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:47:58 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: BTW, the identical Bosch 30 amp fusible link for MB blowers is available at VW stealers. NAPA and other parts places carry several things that can be used, as well. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] [ SPAM ] Re: 124 monovalve testing
Re-heat won't make the side vents warmer as ALL the air goes through both evaporator and heater core. Side vents will be warmer when the car is hot because there is some heat exchange from the ductwork until the under-dash cools off. If the center vent air is warm when full cooling is called for, or the car is warmer than the setting on heat, the valve is not closing. If you get no heat at idle and plenty when you accelerate from a stop, the valve is sticking closed when it should be open. All of my broken ones have either stuck shut intermittantly or failed to turn off when I wanted no heat. Not much to contribute -- I don't have working AC in either W124 at the moment! Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
