Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about?

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from Russia
> prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil?
> And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear
> this?  They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of
> grain and flour will soon skyrocket?
>
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[MBZ] I am not sure they get any uglier than this

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/673687000430049/


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[MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from Russia 
prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil? And 
if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear this?  They 
also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of grain and flour 
will soon skyrocket?

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Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yep 87 unleaded went up to $4.25 overnight. Diesel at $4.79 now.


On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> It went up here another 30 cents since last night 
>
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>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Still available here at $3.99, for now. First time I have seen prices 
>> stable for two days since this all started.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Filling up with diesel at sams this morning 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Craig

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sorry to hear that. Very sad news.

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> I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see 
> it. Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley 
> were in the hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved 
> somewhere else. They did not properly treat her diabetes and sounded 
> like she got moved to a 2nd location but then passed away. Craig is 
> still on the hospital in unknown condition. 
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yeah it might be a Veblen good. The cost is the attraction.


On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 10:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> No one would want it if the cost were $1200.
>
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 8:36 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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>
>> Gaack!  Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy
>> the little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t
>> touch the floor.
>>
>> Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I
>> suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid
>> expensive.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> https://wrensilva.com/?utm_source=facebook_medium=cpc_campaign=eboost-ads-6237745678060-6263442939660_id=617884fd8bfd55fc5e60097c=IwAR3Bkb6iDxslAco3Op9VyIMz0SvemEQE87xD2iuwmlWdodQ8pZcvgGs-qms_aem_AS6OeKaPrO7rvpebNLHrdhd77NqKLJ3mTu2UVr09CR0-Rks1kG9ojS_r6knxVVWIREcZDxmCAlK4gy6SzEtbs-pHBDQs3dgMAEzGozDVQ717Tf0t20T9c7vkptY8JziWt7w
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No one would want it if the cost were $1200.

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> Gaack!  Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy
> the little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t
> touch the floor.
>
> Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I
> suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid
> expensive.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Craig

2022-03-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Damn. 

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> On Mar 7, 2022, at 4:05 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> No, it wasn't posted here - thanks for letting us know. Our thoughts and
> prayers are with Craig - it's going to be rough for him.
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:13 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it.
>> Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley were in
>> the hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved somewhere else.
>> They did not properly treat her diabetes and sounded like she got moved to
>> a 2nd location but then passed away. Craig is still on the hospital in
>> unknown condition.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Gaack!  Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy the 
little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t touch the 
floor.

Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I 
suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it would be stupid 
expensive.

-D

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 7:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> https://wrensilva.com/?utm_source=facebook_medium=cpc_campaign=eboost-ads-6237745678060-6263442939660_id=617884fd8bfd55fc5e60097c=IwAR3Bkb6iDxslAco3Op9VyIMz0SvemEQE87xD2iuwmlWdodQ8pZcvgGs-qms_aem_AS6OeKaPrO7rvpebNLHrdhd77NqKLJ3mTu2UVr09CR0-Rks1kG9ojS_r6knxVVWIREcZDxmCAlK4gy6SzEtbs-pHBDQs3dgMAEzGozDVQ717Tf0t20T9c7vkptY8JziWt7w
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[MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Craig

2022-03-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No, it wasn't posted here - thanks for letting us know. Our thoughts and
prayers are with Craig - it's going to be rough for him.

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:13 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it.
> Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley were in
> the hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved somewhere else.
> They did not properly treat her diabetes and sounded like she got moved to
> a 2nd location but then passed away. Craig is still on the hospital in
> unknown condition.
>
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[MBZ] Craig

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it. 
Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley were in the 
hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved somewhere else. They did 
not properly treat her diabetes and sounded like she got moved to a 2nd 
location but then passed away. Craig is still on the hospital in unknown 
condition. 

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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I used to have two wood stoves going most of the time.  I obtained free
firewood - cut to length logs dumped on my driveway by tree cutting crews
in the neighborhood.  I would listen for the chain saws, track down the
work crew, and then offer to save them a trip to a landfill.  Worked great
plus I got a workout splitting the wood (usually oak).

On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 4:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> On 07/03/2022 2:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > I wouldn't want to have to buy pellets when I have so much wood on the
> lot,
> > and don't
> >   want to have to make sawdust to compress into pellets - seems like a
> > solution looking for a problem to me.
> >
> But pellet stoves light themselves and feed themselves in a controlled
> manner.
>
> Much more automatic than a normal wood stove. Pour a bag into the hopper
> and let it alone.
>
> No requirement for a big chimney. Just small vent.
>
> Downside is the expense of the pellets.
>
> Randy
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 07/03/2022 2:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I wouldn't want to have to buy pellets when I have so much wood on the lot,
and don't
  want to have to make sawdust to compress into pellets - seems like a
solution looking for a problem to me.

But pellet stoves light themselves and feed themselves in a controlled 
manner.


Much more automatic than a normal wood stove. Pour a bag into the hopper 
and let it alone.


No requirement for a big chimney. Just small vent.

Downside is the expense of the pellets.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I wouldn't want to have to buy pellets when I have so much wood on the lot,
and don't
 want to have to make sawdust to compress into pellets - seems like a
solution looking for a problem to me.

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> I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up.
> Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and
> makes it much easier to clean up.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once
> you get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in
> emergencies.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the
> stove feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if
> you need to heat your home with it.
> >> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the
> middle of the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the
> central area with the stove.
> >> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the
> catalytic converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the
> environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air
> intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack.
> >>
> >>
>  On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so
> than lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having
> to light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and
> dumping ashes daily.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year
> > it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not
> to
> > mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat,
> > either.
>  It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
>  but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Again, as others have stated, a wood burning device is of little value unless 
it’s properly located and installed in the home. And is Regina going to be up 
for loading and running it while you’re away, or would you only use it when 
you’re home?

-D

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 2:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. 
>> Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and 
>> makes it much easier to clean up.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you 
>> get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in 
>> emergencies. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove 
>>> feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need 
>>> to heat your home with it.
>>> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of 
>>> the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central 
>>> area with the stove.
>>> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic 
>>> converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the 
>>> environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air 
>>> intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack.
>>> 
>>> 
> On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so 
 than lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having 
 to light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and 
 dumping ashes daily.
 
 -D
 
>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year
>> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to
>> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat,
>> either.
> It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
> but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
They're definitely simpler and easier to live with. Make sure you have an 
alternate source of electricity so if/when the power is out you still have heat.

Downside of pellets is they don't store well long term. As far as I know there 
is no binder in them, they're just held together with pressure. Fortunately 
when the degrade they just become sawdust, easy cleanup.

Curt


On Monday, March 7, 2022, 02:37:12 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. 
> Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and 
> makes it much easier to clean up.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you 
> get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove 
>> feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need 
>> to heat your home with it.
>> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of 
>> the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central 
>> area with the stove.
>> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic 
>> converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the 
>> environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air 
>> intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack.
>> 
>> 
 On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than 
>>> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to 
>>> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and 
>>> dumping ashes daily.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 
> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year
> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to
> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat,
> either.
 It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
 but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. 
> Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and 
> makes it much easier to clean up.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you 
> get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove 
>> feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need 
>> to heat your home with it.
>> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of 
>> the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central 
>> area with the stove.
>> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic 
>> converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the 
>> environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air 
>> intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack.
>> 
>> 
 On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than 
>>> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to 
>>> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and 
>>> dumping ashes daily.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 
> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year
> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to
> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat,
> either.
 It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
 but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way.
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

2022-03-07 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes
And to top it off. Somewhere along the repair process I broke the tee 
fitting on the injector fuel return line, darn! Mercedes only sells the 
whole assembly and the fitting I broke isn't available. Tried to get the 
broken piece out of the hose even that I haven't able to remove it yet from 
the hose?


Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 BT

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

I applaud your efforts. Not an easy job.

--FT
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On Mar 4, 2022, at 11:15 AM, Robert Massmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Yes I am still trying to finish the oil cooler seal replacement on my new 
to me 2012 ML350 diesel. I have the turbo back in and have to finish up 
connecting the exhaust down pipe to the back of the turbo. I may have to 
take the car to the dealer or a European indy to compete the second step 
after torqueing the (3) screws to ( 20 NM). Step two is tightening the 
screws and additional ( 90 degs ). These screws face the engine bulkhead 
and is under engine shielding. The top (2) are sort accessible but  third 
is on the bottom with very little access. Matter of fact I dropped the 
third screw and still need to find it. Below is the link to where been 
posting most of my photos of this project.


Things to Complete list
1) Install O2 probe at elbow of exhaust pipe
2) Install new CCV valve assembly
3) Install fuel rail to fuel rail connection line
4) Double check that all fuel injector supply nuts have been torqued
5) Install new fuel filter ( I will prefill filter with fuel )
6) Install charge air from turbo to front of engine and turbo intercooler
7) Reinstall injector return fuel line
8) Install air intake assembly that connects to the turbo. ( I purchased 
new seal for this joint )

9) Install all remaining electrical connectors
10) Install rear shield located behind turbo
11) Install new inlet air filters, left & right
12) Install the rest of the engine shielding
13) double check that all electrical and mechanical items
14) Install coolant that was drained from engine
15) test start engine ( May take several tries as fuel lines need to be 
recharged )



Link to Oil cooler seal replacement project: 
https://mbworld.org/forums/m-class-w166/834751-2012-ml350-blutec-oil-cooler-leak-repair.html


Bob Massmann
2012 ML350 Bluetec 87,000 miles
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Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Truly, an ugly truck. Why are the manufacturers trying to make the pickup 
> trucks look so huge?

Every time I look at our two '9x Dodge pickups I'm continually impressed by 
their appearance.
They look capable, yet understated.  Clean lines.  Nothing newer looks as good, 
IMHO.  The
Cummins and the V10 are more than capable of doing any pulling I need, and both 
engines
have excellent longevity reputations.  I foresee no reason to _ever_ replace 
them.

The neighbor has one, too.  We just used his tailgate yesterday as a worktable 
upon which to resurrect
my Hobart 135 wire-feed welder, the loaner.  (He'd borrowed it and broken it.)  
Mine's working again,
and we started in on his broken $50 Hobart, same model.  (He bought it for 
parts, to fix mine, but I
think we can get them both working.  I'm handy that way.)

The neighbor's truck was getting pretty beat up, what with its heavy use, 
getting sideswiped by
some dolt, and rolled onto its side by his son.  Rather than replace it he 
opted to replace the bed,
have the necessary body work done, and repaint.  It looks good, but not 'too 
good to use'.  Costs
mostly covered by the dolt's insurance, along with careful shopping.  (Used bed 
and door off
Craigslist, etc.)

Memo to dolts everywhere:  the blind S-curves on a rural road are NOT the place 
to be
checking your texts while driving...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 07/03/2022 12:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you get 
it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies.


Does it have its own source of combustion air from the outside?

We had a wood fireplace that would heat the living room but suck so much 
air out of the house and up the chimney that the rest of the house would 
get colder and the gas furnace vent would flow backwards into the 
basement. We gave up on the wood and installed a gas insert.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. Having 
ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and makes it 
much easier to clean up.

-Curt

On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote: 


We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you get 
it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove 
> feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need 
> to heat your home with it.
> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of 
> the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central 
> area with the stove.
> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic 
> converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the environment 
> police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air intake so 
> that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack.
> 
> 
>> On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than 
>> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to 
>> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and 
>> dumping ashes daily.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
 On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year
 it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to
 mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat,
 either.
>>> It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
>>> but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Can't help but think that there will be more low life folks sneaking 
around in the night stealing fuel from your vehicles too. I park my 
truck outside of the garage on a back lane so I half expect to find I 
have been robbed of gas over night. I hope they just stick a hose down 
the filler and don't drill a hole in my gas tank.


Years ago, I had an old Chevy truck that I parked at the lane. It was 
drained so often that I got to where I would run to the pumps every time 
I needed to use it and put in $5. One time they sucked it so dry that I 
couldn't get it to the gas station.


Locking gas caps didn't help. They just twisted them off with some sort 
of wrench or pliers. For a while I had parts of the broken caps in the 
tank that would slide back and forth when I turned corners. 1968 Chevy 
so it had the tank behind the seat and the filler beside the driver's door.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Even without a catalyst most (all?) new stoves have secondary burn that will 
burn off most of the volitiles. My stove is an older Jotul 118, probably from 
the '80s. It's got a big secondary burn chamber which also recovers heat from 
that stuff being burnt off. Once it's burning good it rarely produces any 
smoke. Mostly just around reloads and then only for a minute or two.

That of course assumes good, dry wood.

-Curt

On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:00:11 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 


A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the 
stove feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if 
you need to heat your home with it.
If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle 
of the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the 
central area with the stove.
These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic 
converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the 
environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold 
air intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small 
crack.


On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than 
> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to 
> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping 
> ashes daily.
>
> -D
>
>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year
>>> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to
>>> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat,
>>> either.
>> It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
>> but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you get 
it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove 
> feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need 
> to heat your home with it.
> If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of 
> the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the central 
> area with the stove.
> These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic 
> converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the environment 
> police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold air intake so 
> that it does not suck air into the house from every small crack.
> 
> 
>> On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than 
>> lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to 
>> light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and 
>> dumping ashes daily.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
 On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year
 it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to
 mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat,
 either.
>>> It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
>>> but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way.
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Dunno, the Germans said they won't sanction Russian oil: 
https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Oil-Prices-Sink-As-Germany-Takes-A-Stance-Against-Ban-On-Russian-Crude.html

It seems to me like if we (the global we) were really serious about this thing 
we (again globally) need to sanction everything. I would think "shock and awe" 
of full sanctions would be much more effective, and quicker, than this 
piecemeal effect.

We know sanctions hurt the average person more than the people who really need 
to feel the pinch so it seems to me going full bore and getting it over with 
makes more sense than limping in sanctions a little at a time.

-Curt



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Crude oil just posted at $130 per barrel. Expect another huge rise at the
pump price soon.
The trading day isn't over yet, and could likely go even higher by days end.

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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the 
stove feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if 
you need to heat your home with it.
If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle 
of the house and the rooms need to be sort of in a circle around the 
central area with the stove.
These days it is also a good idea to have a new stove with the catalytic 
converter type thing in it so that your neighbours don't call the 
environment police to complain. Also good if the stove has its own cold 
air intake so that it does not suck air into the house from every small 
crack.



On 07/03/2022 11:27 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than 
lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to 
light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping 
ashes daily.

-D


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On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:


With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year
it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to
mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat,
either.

It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
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Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It went up here another 30 cents since last night 

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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We're fortunate to have a small house with the wood stove in the basement. It 
heats up the floors and thus the upstairs.

Our bedroom is the farthest room from the stove and thus the coldest. To heat 
that room up I vacuum the bedroom. We've got central vac, the canister for 
which is in the basement by the stove. The vac sucks cold air out of the 
bedroom and pressurizes the basement which forces warm air up the basement 
vent. Works a treat...

-Curt


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 wrote: 


True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than 
lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to 
light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping 
ashes daily.

-D

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> 
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year 
>> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to 
>> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, 
>> either.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Crude oil just posted at $130 per barrel. Expect another huge rise at the
pump price soon.
The trading day isn't over yet, and could likely go even higher by days end.

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Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Still available here at $3.99, for now. First time I have seen prices stable 
for two days since this all started.


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[MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Filling up with diesel at sams this morning 



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Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That was a d*ck move on your neighbor’s friend’s part. Really.

-D

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> 
> The average pickup truck buyer is all sizzle and no steak.
> 
> A friend of my neighbor asked to borrow my truck to move some stuff with. 
> He's got a couple year old Chevy 2500 in perfect condition. I asked why he 
> didn't just use his own truck. "I don't want to get mine dirty. Yours is 
> rusty." 
> 
> What I told him doesn't bear repeating but he didn't get to use my truck...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Monday, March 7, 2022, 12:14:48 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Truly, an ugly truck. Why are the manufacturers trying to make the 
> pickup trucks look so huge?
> I sort of understand trucks becoming taller given they are pretty much 
> all 4 wheel drive now, but I don't really understand the tall hood and 
> massive grill. They are putting smaller engines in - V6 turbo rather 
> than V8 in most now so one would think the front clip might be able to 
> be made smaller rather than larger.
> 
> Randy
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than 
lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to 
light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping 
ashes daily.

-D

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year 
>> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to 
>> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, 
>> either.
> 
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> but it is carbon-neutral! So you can feel good about it either way.
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Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Same with the ”Raptor”. It’s like they’re trying to sell a consumer version of 
a monster truck. Yeesh.

-D

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Truly, an ugly truck. Why are the manufacturers trying to make the pickup 
> trucks look so huge?
> I sort of understand trucks becoming taller given they are pretty much all 4 
> wheel drive now, but I don't really understand the tall hood and massive 
> grill. They are putting smaller engines in - V6 turbo rather than V8 in most 
> now so one would think the front clip might be able to be made smaller rather 
> than larger.
> 
> Randy
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year 
> it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to 
> mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, 
> either.

It is a lot more work, and does emit some smoke/particulate pollution,
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 ML430 - 240k miles - $2,500

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Possibly. I’ve heard of people having to replace rear wheel bearings on these. 
The tires are very limited as far as availability, they’re a weird size that 
only a couple manufacturers make. I had one that was bad on my former ML500 
beater that made a lot of noise. Had a really bizarre wear pattern for some 
reason but the replacement never had an issue in the time I owned it.

-D

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> "there is a sound from the rear at higher speeds"
> 
> Could just be tires I guess, but I was thiking wheel bearing?
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 10:58 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Most are relatively simple stuff, except maybe the coolant leak. 
>> Exhaust hangers are simple, and the lock issue is likely the “machine 
>> gun” problem these all experience.
>> 
>> $1500-$1800 is about where it should fall, I would think.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 7, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seller seems honest, but I think the ask is too high given the problems.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The average pickup truck buyer is all sizzle and no steak.

A friend of my neighbor asked to borrow my truck to move some stuff with. He's 
got a couple year old Chevy 2500 in perfect condition. I asked why he didn't 
just use his own truck. "I don't want to get mine dirty. Yours is rusty." 

What I told him doesn't bear repeating but he didn't get to use my truck...

-Curt

On Monday, March 7, 2022, 12:14:48 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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Truly, an ugly truck. Why are the manufacturers trying to make the 
pickup trucks look so huge?
I sort of understand trucks becoming taller given they are pretty much 
all 4 wheel drive now, but I don't really understand the tall hood and 
massive grill. They are putting smaller engines in - V6 turbo rather 
than V8 in most now so one would think the front clip might be able to 
be made smaller rather than larger.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
We ran the wood stove for a few days to see how it would go, and while it made 
that part of the house “toasty”, there was no good way to distribute the heat 
throughout the rest of the house. The wood stove is in the far corner of a 
former 2 car garage that was converted to living space many years ago. As a 
result, there’s limited airflow from the HVAC system out there, so there’s no 
viable way to “push” the heated air into the rest of the house. I tried using a 
box fan to blow air from the are to the rest of the house, but again, it wasn’t 
terribly efficient and didn’t really make a significant difference, even with 
using the HVAC blower to move air around.

That and it consumed wood at a crazy rate. I have a couple of those big canvas 
“carriers” you use to carry wood around, and it would easily go through one to 
one and a half of those in wood in a day. In the week or two that we ran it, 
just during the day, I probably went through a 1/4 of a cord or more.

You can get free wood for the taking from parts of the National Forests around 
here, but it goes really fast as one might expect. That and I don’t really have 
the means to collect and manage a large volume of firewood, unless I get a 
trailer for the ML.

With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year it’s 
difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to mention it’s 
not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, either.

Thankfully, we’ve got double-pane windows but I don’t think they’re anything 
fancy with gas between the panes. One advantage of multi-pane windows is 
cutting down on noise, too.

-D

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> 
> _All_ we did was double up the attic blown-in insulation.  Made a very
> noticeable difference.  We use wood auxiliary heat, maybe 5 cords a year.
> I've never paid a dime for any of it.  Free downed trees, or I cut off of our
> acreage in a pinch.
> 
> I dislike sealed multipane windows, they're all ticking time bomb$.  For a
> brief time you could get NON-sealed 2-pane windows.  They never fail.
> Ours are Pella, but I was told, perhaps by somebody who doesn't really
> know, that this was no longer possible.  There was only a percent or three
> difference on the energy efficiency, but they're 'forever' windows.
> 
> You can't begin to imagine how much I loathe the 'subscription model' that
> seems to be everywhere now.  Even for windows...
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Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Truly, an ugly truck. Why are the manufacturers trying to make the 
pickup trucks look so huge?
I sort of understand trucks becoming taller given they are pretty much 
all 4 wheel drive now, but I don't really understand the tall hood and 
massive grill. They are putting smaller engines in - V6 turbo rather 
than V8 in most now so one would think the front clip might be able to 
be made smaller rather than larger.


Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT insulation and windows

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I know that code requirements for blow-in insulation in Flagstaff is R44, which 
is around 15” thick using fiberglass.

-D


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> 
> It's probably about 1' deep.
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Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The automotive equivalent of stuffing a sock in your pants

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Re: [MBZ] 2000 ML430 - 240k miles - $2,500

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
"there is a sound from the rear at higher speeds"

Could just be tires I guess, but I was thiking wheel bearing?


On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 10:58 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Most are relatively simple stuff, except maybe the coolant leak. 
> Exhaust hangers are simple, and the lock issue is likely the “machine 
> gun” problem these all experience.
>
> $1500-$1800 is about where it should fall, I would think.
>
> -D
>
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>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've been slowly adding insulation to our attic. This week I plan to go get the 
rest, I've got a bunch of Home Depot gift cards...
I've been using unfaced fiberglass  laid perpendicular to the existing 
fiberglass. The rafters are 2x6 so like R19, I'm adding R30. Even having done 
only half the house I can tell the difference in the heating bill.

It's horrible hard work but worth doing...

-Curt


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_All_ we did was double up the attic blown-in insulation.  Made a very
noticeable difference.  We use wood auxiliary heat, maybe 5 cords a year.
I've never paid a dime for any of it.  Free downed trees, or I cut off of our
acreage in a pinch.

I dislike sealed multipane windows, they're all ticking time bomb$.  For a
brief time you could get NON-sealed 2-pane windows.  They never fail.
Ours are Pella, but I was told, perhaps by somebody who doesn't really
know, that this was no longer possible.  There was only a percent or three
difference on the energy efficiency, but they're 'forever' windows.

You can't begin to imagine how much I loathe the 'subscription model' that
seems to be everywhere now.  Even for windows...

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes


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Re: [MBZ] OT insulation and windows

2022-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> How much insulation do you have in the attic?

It's probably about 1' deep.

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[MBZ] OT insulation and windows

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I totally agree about the windows. All of our expensive triple pane 
windows have broken seals and moisture in between the panes. It upsets 
my wife but I have been in no hurry to change them.


How much insulation do you have in the attic?

Randy


On 07/03/2022 10:23 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

_All_ we did was double up the attic blown-in insulation.  Made a very
noticeable difference.  We use wood auxiliary heat, maybe 5 cords a year.
I've never paid a dime for any of it.  Free downed trees, or I cut off of our
acreage in a pinch.

I dislike sealed multipane windows, they're all ticking time bomb$.  For a
brief time you could get NON-sealed 2-pane windows.  They never fail.
Ours are Pella, but I was told, perhaps by somebody who doesn't really
know, that this was no longer possible.  There was only a percent or three
difference on the energy efficiency, but they're 'forever' windows.

You can't begin to imagine how much I loathe the 'subscription model' that
seems to be everywhere now.  Even for windows...

-- Jim






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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
_All_ we did was double up the attic blown-in insulation.  Made a very
noticeable difference.  We use wood auxiliary heat, maybe 5 cords a year.
I've never paid a dime for any of it.  Free downed trees, or I cut off of our
acreage in a pinch.

I dislike sealed multipane windows, they're all ticking time bomb$.  For a
brief time you could get NON-sealed 2-pane windows.  They never fail.
Ours are Pella, but I was told, perhaps by somebody who doesn't really
know, that this was no longer possible.  There was only a percent or three
difference on the energy efficiency, but they're 'forever' windows.

You can't begin to imagine how much I loathe the 'subscription model' that
seems to be everywhere now.  Even for windows...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Project -- Exterior color: Green ·1976 Mercedes-Benz 400 SE Sedan 4D,$1,750

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Probably a viable restoration candidate if not rusted out.

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> Doesn't look too bad for the money if you wanted a project
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1082617002308678
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Re: [MBZ] Project -- Exterior color: Green ?1976 Mercedes-Benz 400 SE Sedan 4D, $1, 750

2022-03-07 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
Not just any green, but Kaledoniengrün 867! Just like my 76 300D.

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> Doesn't look too bad for the money if you wanted a project
>
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Re: [MBZ] 560SEL doesn't look too bad in crappy pics -- 1989 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 500 SEL, $2, 500

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"Has no significant damage or problems."

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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I thought the paper/moisture barrier always faced the living space?

The moisture barrier always faces the wetter side.  Usually that's the
inside, but not in all locales.

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Re: [MBZ] 86k original miles 1993 300E Gorgeous Mercedes - $6,200

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"Needs nothing" redefined:  *Needs absolutely nothing mechanically and I
currently average 26 mpg! There are only 3 issues with it: the rt rear
window motor, the pwr antenna & the rt rear side marker light don't work. *

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Re: [MBZ] 2000 ML430 - 240k miles - $2,500

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Most are relatively simple stuff, except maybe the coolant leak. Exhaust 
hangers are simple, and the lock issue is likely the “machine gun” problem 
these all experience.

$1500-$1800 is about where it should fall, I would think.

-D

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> Seller seems honest, but I think the ask is too high given the problems.
> 
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[MBZ] 2000 ML430 - 240k miles - $2,500

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Seller seems honest, but I think the ask is too high given the problems.

https://chambana.craigslist.org/cto/d/seymour-2000-mercedes-ml430-awd/7454951209.html

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[MBZ] Project -- Exterior color: Green ·1976 Mercedes-Benz 400 SE Sedan 4D,$1,750

2022-03-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Doesn't look too bad for the money if you wanted a project

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1082617002308678

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[MBZ] 560SEL doesn't look too bad in crappy pics -- 1989 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 500 SEL, $2, 500

2022-03-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1075169633034367

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[MBZ] 420 K miles 1999 Mercedes-Benz 300d,$4,000

2022-03-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1798026297054150

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[MBZ] OT who wants flame throwers?

2022-03-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Could put this in your hood stack and look like an old locomotive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYU7iVSsf5E

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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yes, you used to be able to write off the difference on your taxes but can’t do 
that anymore. They don’t allow any claiming of miles for work unless it’s a 
schedule c. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 7, 2022, at 6:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s their choice.
> 
> I dealt with that when I was a field tech with the school system. Cheap 
> bastards gave you two choices: Accept their paltry mileage reimbursement on a 
> monthly basis, or just put in for it yourself with your taxes. I did both, 
> which seemed to confuse them. I claimed the difference between what they paid 
> and the IRS reimbursement. It wasn’t much, but it was a matter of principle.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Currently we receive .575 per mile on expense reports.  Since being acquired 
>> last year we have not moved to their expense reporting system but I have 
>> heard their rate is something like .40 or .42 per mile.  Hopefully I heard 
>> wrong.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3/6/2022 7:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Good point, Kaleb. Mitch, what’s the IRS reimbursement for mileage these 
>>> days?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 One thing folks have not mentioned yet. Last time fuel prices exploded the 
 demand was much higher. With the Covid bs going on, we have now moved to 
 more remote work so a lot of folks don’t have to drive near as much as 
 before.
 
 Pretty soon, rather than getting expensed for miles for work, might have 
 to switch to renting cars and expensing that and the fuel.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 6, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now.
> 
> https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899
> 
> $8.49 9/10 for premium.
> 
> Coming to a city near you.
> 
> Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection 
> pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed 
> by morons.
> 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
It’s their choice.

I dealt with that when I was a field tech with the school system. Cheap 
bastards gave you two choices: Accept their paltry mileage reimbursement on a 
monthly basis, or just put in for it yourself with your taxes. I did both, 
which seemed to confuse them. I claimed the difference between what they paid 
and the IRS reimbursement. It wasn’t much, but it was a matter of principle.

-D

> On Mar 6, 2022, at 10:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Currently we receive .575 per mile on expense reports.  Since being acquired 
> last year we have not moved to their expense reporting system but I have 
> heard their rate is something like .40 or .42 per mile.  Hopefully I heard 
> wrong.
> 
> 
> On 3/6/2022 7:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Good point, Kaleb. Mitch, what’s the IRS reimbursement for mileage these 
>> days?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2022, at 8:40 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> One thing folks have not mentioned yet. Last time fuel prices exploded the 
>>> demand was much higher. With the Covid bs going on, we have now moved to 
>>> more remote work so a lot of folks don’t have to drive near as much as 
>>> before.
>>> 
>>> Pretty soon, rather than getting expensed for miles for work, might have to 
>>> switch to renting cars and expensing that and the fuel.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 6, 2022, at 4:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Gorda, CA. Highest prices I can find right now.
 
 https://www.ksbw.com/article/gas-prices-in-gorda-hit-dollar759/39341899
 
 $8.49 9/10 for premium.
 
 Coming to a city near you.
 
 Wish I had the equipment and parts to rebuild Mercedes diesel injection 
 pumps. There will be a ton of cars for sale cheap when they get destroyed 
 by morons.
 
 
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