Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
That's actually a triple entendre. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 10:05 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > You gotta work like an A guy or you’ll kill someone. > > You're going to have him shadowboxing his tools before long. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
I think the emphasis should be on people who run red lights, because that is intrinsically dangerous and quite often deadly. Plenty of speeding cars never crash but running a red light is scary as hell. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 9:31 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I don't understand the point that you can get caught breaking the law > (speeding), but they can't do anything about it. Just seems wrong. > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 7:57 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > The basic principle is that anything happening in public (I.e., not your > > home/property that is not visible) is fair game for observation, > monitoring > > , or whatever, unless there is a law to stop it. In SC speed cameras are > > not allowed to be used to issue speeding tickets, but I can use a radar > gun > > to measure speeds of cars. First amendment rights allow me to do that as > > well as take photos etc. > > > > Intercepting cell phone conversations requires a warrant I believe. > > > > --FT > > > > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
https://motorandwheels.com/where-are-tires-made-brands/ https://www.utires.com/articles/tires-made-usa-american-foreign-brands/ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
> You gotta work like an A guy or you’ll kill someone. You're going to have him shadowboxing his tools before long. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
At least she HAD all of 'em. I hadda buy half a dozen for the E420 I got offa K'leb... On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 6:09 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Kaleb has some ‘splaining to do. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
True --- On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:22 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > “Regina’s Bolts” wasn’t as funny. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 21, 2022, at 5:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > First, they are bolts, not nuts. > > Second, if you would drill and safety wire them, it would be obvious at a > > glance that they were loose from the lack of twisted safety wire. Darn - > > now I might have to do that to my cars - like I need yet another thing to > > do. > > > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 6:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Yep. My previous way for decades I do one wheel, it hits the ground and > >> tightened fully before even moving to the next one. I have up to this > >> point need to get in the habit of checking them all once it hits the > >> ground. There have been plenty of times I have done it but have > >> forgotten 3 times. 2 times the vehicles left the driveway. Just the > >> other day I pulled the E300 back over to the driveway and when I got out > >> it dawned I me I forgot it and caught myself. > >> > >>> On 3/21/2022 6:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > >>> You gotta work like an A guy or you’ll kill someone. > >>> > >>> If you’re doing tire/wheel work, the last thing you do when the car > gets > >> put back on the floor is to go around and torque every lug bolt. Period. > >> It’s a pattern you never deviate from. No exceptions. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > That lift is going to kill somebody. Since I have had it, it has > >> totally changed my method of dealing with tires. Previously I would > have a > >> wheel off one at a time, and tighten it then move on to the next one. > With > >> the lift, I have multiple wheels off then am supposed to torque them > down > >> when I lower it. Problem is, I have forgotten to torque them down after > >> lowering the car because I have done it the old way for decades. I had > >> some loose nuts on my car, and now her car. Guess I am going to have to > >> put a note on the steering wheel before I start a job. Fortunately both > >> times were not really big problems. For me, I noticed it right away > when I > >> started driving and tightened them. She pays no attention to anything > and > >> got several miles down the road. It HAD to have been obvious from the > get > >> go. Guess not everyone pays attention to what is happening with their > >> vehicle. > > On 3/21/2022 6:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > > Kaleb has some ‘splaining to do. > > > > AZBob > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” > Wernher > > Von Braun > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
I don't understand the point that you can get caught breaking the law (speeding), but they can't do anything about it. Just seems wrong. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 7:57 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The basic principle is that anything happening in public (I.e., not your > home/property that is not visible) is fair game for observation, monitoring > , or whatever, unless there is a law to stop it. In SC speed cameras are > not allowed to be used to issue speeding tickets, but I can use a radar gun > to measure speeds of cars. First amendment rights allow me to do that as > well as take photos etc. > > Intercepting cell phone conversations requires a warrant I believe. > > --FT > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
“Regina’s Bolts” wasn’t as funny. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 5:57 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > wrote: > > First, they are bolts, not nuts. > Second, if you would drill and safety wire them, it would be obvious at a > glance that they were loose from the lack of twisted safety wire. Darn - > now I might have to do that to my cars - like I need yet another thing to > do. > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 6:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Yep. My previous way for decades I do one wheel, it hits the ground and >> tightened fully before even moving to the next one. I have up to this >> point need to get in the habit of checking them all once it hits the >> ground. There have been plenty of times I have done it but have >> forgotten 3 times. 2 times the vehicles left the driveway. Just the >> other day I pulled the E300 back over to the driveway and when I got out >> it dawned I me I forgot it and caught myself. >> >>> On 3/21/2022 6:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> You gotta work like an A guy or you’ll kill someone. >>> >>> If you’re doing tire/wheel work, the last thing you do when the car gets >> put back on the floor is to go around and torque every lug bolt. Period. >> It’s a pattern you never deviate from. No exceptions. >>> >>> -D >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: That lift is going to kill somebody. Since I have had it, it has >> totally changed my method of dealing with tires. Previously I would have a >> wheel off one at a time, and tighten it then move on to the next one. With >> the lift, I have multiple wheels off then am supposed to torque them down >> when I lower it. Problem is, I have forgotten to torque them down after >> lowering the car because I have done it the old way for decades. I had >> some loose nuts on my car, and now her car. Guess I am going to have to >> put a note on the steering wheel before I start a job. Fortunately both >> times were not really big problems. For me, I noticed it right away when I >> started driving and tightened them. She pays no attention to anything and >> got several miles down the road. It HAD to have been obvious from the get >> go. Guess not everyone pays attention to what is happening with their >> vehicle. On 3/21/2022 6:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > Kaleb has some ‘splaining to do. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > OK Don > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to > pause and reflect." Mark Twain > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher > Von Braun > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A package deal of cars
Two of the flavors are lemon custard and French vanilla. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 9:04 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/364972502115754/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Went to do a transmission flush and my dog chewed on the key. 2000 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class, $1, 500
Gets the prize for best provenance. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 6:05 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Tired of messing with it. > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/990723778209665 > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A package deal of cars
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/364972502115754/ Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
The basic principle is that anything happening in public (I.e., not your home/property that is not visible) is fair game for observation, monitoring , or whatever, unless there is a law to stop it. In SC speed cameras are not allowed to be used to issue speeding tickets, but I can use a radar gun to measure speeds of cars. First amendment rights allow me to do that as well as take photos etc. Intercepting cell phone conversations requires a warrant I believe. --FT Sent from iFōn > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yea thats right, at least the ones the Sheriffs dept is installing were > free. I assumed it was some sort of SaaS model trying to get them hooked on > it. I really hate to say it but now days police seem to have very few > skills anymore as far as protecting and serving. They rely on technology > like this to do their job and appear to be unable to solve crimes without > somebody ratting somebody else out. Not to mention the ones who have no > business in this line of work who are rude at the least, to shooting and > killing people at the most. > >> On 3/21/2022 6:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >> Plate readers have been around for some time. There’s a serious question >> about the legality of their use, with a lot of jurisdictions avoiding this >> by purchasing the data as a service and not buying the readers outright >> themselves. >> >> This is right up there with cell site simulators, a.k.a. “dirtboxes” or >> Stingray devices (Harris, Corp.) as they’re known in LE circles. >> >> I agree with the, “If you’re not doing anything wrong you shouldn’t worry >> about it”, but what worries me is the potential for misuse of the data and >> what controls (if any) are in place to protect it? With plate readers the >> jurisdictions that have been litigated against have arranged for data to be >> deleted after a fixed time, but that’s really not a resolution. I see where >> the deal in Tulsa is that data will be deleted after 30 days. I also note >> that the cameras are being installed for “free” by the vendor. In other >> words, they’ll get the local law enforcement worked up to want these >> permanently, then they’re locked in to this vendor. >> >> It’s much like the traffic camera scam - “We'll do this for you, handle all >> the backend work, and mail you a check for your 40% of what we take in every >> month.” >> >> -D >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate readers >>> they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops about >>> various things. Talked about placing them in the high crime areas aka the >>> ghetto. The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some too. >>> Without getting into a political discussion, I am not sure I really like >>> this idea at all. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
First, they are bolts, not nuts. Second, if you would drill and safety wire them, it would be obvious at a glance that they were loose from the lack of twisted safety wire. Darn - now I might have to do that to my cars - like I need yet another thing to do. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 6:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yep. My previous way for decades I do one wheel, it hits the ground and > tightened fully before even moving to the next one. I have up to this > point need to get in the habit of checking them all once it hits the > ground. There have been plenty of times I have done it but have > forgotten 3 times. 2 times the vehicles left the driveway. Just the > other day I pulled the E300 back over to the driveway and when I got out > it dawned I me I forgot it and caught myself. > > On 3/21/2022 6:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > > You gotta work like an A guy or you’ll kill someone. > > > > If you’re doing tire/wheel work, the last thing you do when the car gets > put back on the floor is to go around and torque every lug bolt. Period. > It’s a pattern you never deviate from. No exceptions. > > > > -D > > > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> That lift is going to kill somebody. Since I have had it, it has > totally changed my method of dealing with tires. Previously I would have a > wheel off one at a time, and tighten it then move on to the next one. With > the lift, I have multiple wheels off then am supposed to torque them down > when I lower it. Problem is, I have forgotten to torque them down after > lowering the car because I have done it the old way for decades. I had > some loose nuts on my car, and now her car. Guess I am going to have to > put a note on the steering wheel before I start a job. Fortunately both > times were not really big problems. For me, I noticed it right away when I > started driving and tightened them. She pays no attention to anything and > got several miles down the road. It HAD to have been obvious from the get > go. Guess not everyone pays attention to what is happening with their > vehicle. > >> > >> On 3/21/2022 6:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: > >>> Kaleb has some ‘splaining to do. > >>> > >>> AZBob > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
"Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Ben Franklin Of course, it doesn't mean what is looks like: https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/390245038/ben-franklins-famous-liberty-safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.” Wernher Von Braun 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
Yep. My previous way for decades I do one wheel, it hits the ground and tightened fully before even moving to the next one. I have up to this point need to get in the habit of checking them all once it hits the ground. There have been plenty of times I have done it but have forgotten 3 times. 2 times the vehicles left the driveway. Just the other day I pulled the E300 back over to the driveway and when I got out it dawned I me I forgot it and caught myself. On 3/21/2022 6:32 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: You gotta work like an A guy or you’ll kill someone. If you’re doing tire/wheel work, the last thing you do when the car gets put back on the floor is to go around and torque every lug bolt. Period. It’s a pattern you never deviate from. No exceptions. -D On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: That lift is going to kill somebody. Since I have had it, it has totally changed my method of dealing with tires. Previously I would have a wheel off one at a time, and tighten it then move on to the next one. With the lift, I have multiple wheels off then am supposed to torque them down when I lower it. Problem is, I have forgotten to torque them down after lowering the car because I have done it the old way for decades. I had some loose nuts on my car, and now her car. Guess I am going to have to put a note on the steering wheel before I start a job. Fortunately both times were not really big problems. For me, I noticed it right away when I started driving and tightened them. She pays no attention to anything and got several miles down the road. It HAD to have been obvious from the get go. Guess not everyone pays attention to what is happening with their vehicle. On 3/21/2022 6:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Kaleb has some ‘splaining to do. AZBob Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] M120 in a Lotus
Best thing that ever happened to that Lotus, I’m sure. -D > On Mar 21, 2022, at 6:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/groups/151253452289145/permalink/1152820982132382/ > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
Yea thats right, at least the ones the Sheriffs dept is installing were free. I assumed it was some sort of SaaS model trying to get them hooked on it. I really hate to say it but now days police seem to have very few skills anymore as far as protecting and serving. They rely on technology like this to do their job and appear to be unable to solve crimes without somebody ratting somebody else out. Not to mention the ones who have no business in this line of work who are rude at the least, to shooting and killing people at the most. On 3/21/2022 6:28 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: Plate readers have been around for some time. There’s a serious question about the legality of their use, with a lot of jurisdictions avoiding this by purchasing the data as a service and not buying the readers outright themselves. This is right up there with cell site simulators, a.k.a. “dirtboxes” or Stingray devices (Harris, Corp.) as they’re known in LE circles. I agree with the, “If you’re not doing anything wrong you shouldn’t worry about it”, but what worries me is the potential for misuse of the data and what controls (if any) are in place to protect it? With plate readers the jurisdictions that have been litigated against have arranged for data to be deleted after a fixed time, but that’s really not a resolution. I see where the deal in Tulsa is that data will be deleted after 30 days. I also note that the cameras are being installed for “free” by the vendor. In other words, they’ll get the local law enforcement worked up to want these permanently, then they’re locked in to this vendor. It’s much like the traffic camera scam - “We'll do this for you, handle all the backend work, and mail you a check for your 40% of what we take in every month.” -D On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate readers they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops about various things. Talked about placing them in the high crime areas aka the ghetto. The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some too. Without getting into a political discussion, I am not sure I really like this idea at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
You gotta work like an A guy or you’ll kill someone. If you’re doing tire/wheel work, the last thing you do when the car gets put back on the floor is to go around and torque every lug bolt. Period. It’s a pattern you never deviate from. No exceptions. -D > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > That lift is going to kill somebody. Since I have had it, it has totally > changed my method of dealing with tires. Previously I would have a wheel off > one at a time, and tighten it then move on to the next one. With the lift, I > have multiple wheels off then am supposed to torque them down when I lower > it. Problem is, I have forgotten to torque them down after lowering the car > because I have done it the old way for decades. I had some loose nuts on my > car, and now her car. Guess I am going to have to put a note on the steering > wheel before I start a job. Fortunately both times were not really big > problems. For me, I noticed it right away when I started driving and > tightened them. She pays no attention to anything and got several miles down > the road. It HAD to have been obvious from the get go. Guess not everyone > pays attention to what is happening with their vehicle. > > On 3/21/2022 6:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: >> >> Kaleb has some ‘splaining to do. >> >> AZBob >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
Plate readers have been around for some time. There’s a serious question about the legality of their use, with a lot of jurisdictions avoiding this by purchasing the data as a service and not buying the readers outright themselves. This is right up there with cell site simulators, a.k.a. “dirtboxes” or Stingray devices (Harris, Corp.) as they’re known in LE circles. I agree with the, “If you’re not doing anything wrong you shouldn’t worry about it”, but what worries me is the potential for misuse of the data and what controls (if any) are in place to protect it? With plate readers the jurisdictions that have been litigated against have arranged for data to be deleted after a fixed time, but that’s really not a resolution. I see where the deal in Tulsa is that data will be deleted after 30 days. I also note that the cameras are being installed for “free” by the vendor. In other words, they’ll get the local law enforcement worked up to want these permanently, then they’re locked in to this vendor. It’s much like the traffic camera scam - “We'll do this for you, handle all the backend work, and mail you a check for your 40% of what we take in every month.” -D > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate readers > they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops about various > things. Talked about placing them in the high crime areas aka the ghetto. > The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some too. Without getting > into a political discussion, I am not sure I really like this idea at all. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
And…..have surveillance cameras reduced crime? Or…have the criminals developed ways around them? And…unenforceable laws that take away the freedoms of people who obey the law. (Well most of them. I travel over the speed limit most of time.) Michael E. Esh > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > People will say if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to > worry about. While that is true, would those same people be OK with > installing cameras being installed in their house to make sure they are safe? > We continue to let them invade our privacy or take away freedoms little by > little. If you look back 20 or 30 years, it is amazing how far it has gone. > >> On 3/21/2022 6:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> It's called a surveillance state and we are living in one. It's not >> political. I don't like it either. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: March 21, 2022 6:05 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >> Subject: [MBZ] plate readers >> >> Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate >> readers they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops >> about various things. Talked about placing them in the high crime areas >> aka the ghetto. The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some >> too. Without getting into a political discussion, I am not sure I >> really like this idea at all. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
People will say if you are not doing anything wrong you have nothing to worry about. While that is true, would those same people be OK with installing cameras being installed in their house to make sure they are safe? We continue to let them invade our privacy or take away freedoms little by little. If you look back 20 or 30 years, it is amazing how far it has gone. On 3/21/2022 6:10 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: It's called a surveillance state and we are living in one. It's not political. I don't like it either. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 21, 2022 6:05 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] plate readers Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate readers they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops about various things. Talked about placing them in the high crime areas aka the ghetto. The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some too. Without getting into a political discussion, I am not sure I really like this idea at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Regina’s Nuts….
That lift is going to kill somebody. Since I have had it, it has totally changed my method of dealing with tires. Previously I would have a wheel off one at a time, and tighten it then move on to the next one. With the lift, I have multiple wheels off then am supposed to torque them down when I lower it. Problem is, I have forgotten to torque them down after lowering the car because I have done it the old way for decades. I had some loose nuts on my car, and now her car. Guess I am going to have to put a note on the steering wheel before I start a job. Fortunately both times were not really big problems. For me, I noticed it right away when I started driving and tightened them. She pays no attention to anything and got several miles down the road. It HAD to have been obvious from the get go. Guess not everyone pays attention to what is happening with their vehicle. On 3/21/2022 6:09 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote: Kaleb has some ‘splaining to do. AZBob Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plate readers
It's called a surveillance state and we are living in one. It's not political. I don't like it either. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 21, 2022 6:05 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] plate readers Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate readers they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops about various things. Talked about placing them in the high crime areas aka the ghetto. The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some too. Without getting into a political discussion, I am not sure I really like this idea at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] plate readers
Watching the local news, I see TPD is talking about these new plate readers they are installing around town that sends an alert to the cops about various things. Talked about placing them in the high crime areas aka the ghetto. The other day saw the sheriffs dept was installing some too. Without getting into a political discussion, I am not sure I really like this idea at all. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] M120 in a Lotus
https://www.facebook.com/groups/151253452289145/permalink/1152820982132382/ --FT Sent from iFōn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Went to do a transmission flush and my dog chewed on the key. 2000 Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class, $1, 500
Tired of messing with it. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/990723778209665 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Huh. I just checked TireRack and they weren't over priced. I looked at them several years ago, and they made Michelin Defender tires look cheap. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 21, 2022 3:21 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm Subject: Re: [MBZ] More tires Vredenstein was one of the only brands that still make tires in the OE size for my Karmann Ghia. They are not cheap but I wouldn't consider them super expensive. They are also a Summer tire with a warning not to use them below 40 degrees. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 2:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > They are super expensive. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: March 21, 2022 11:37 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: Re: [MBZ] More tires > > I have never even looked at these > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Excellent. I purchased a set of Vredensteins from Radial Tire because they >> were 1) manufactured in Holland; and 2) the least pricey among all-season >> alternatives. >> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dimitri Seretakis >>> wrote: >>> >>> Michelin, Vredestein etc. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Define non-trash tires please. > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Alles. > My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No >>> casing > failures just wore too quickly. > YMMV > Fred. > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I >> owned, and was very pleased with them. >>> >>> -D >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 > miles >> on them before I crashed into the tree --FT Sent from iFōn >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No >> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very >> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I >>> drive, >> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or >>> stops >> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: [MBZ] More tires > > Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for > Michelins. > Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Same for the W110/111/112. They’re about the only game in town for the closest to “correct” size for these older cars, especially in the 13” sizes. -D > On Mar 21, 2022, at 4:20 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Vredenstein was one of the only brands that still make tires in the OE size > for my Karmann Ghia. They are not cheap but I wouldn't consider them super > expensive. They are also a Summer tire with a warning not to use them below > 40 degrees. > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 2:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >> They are super expensive. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: March 21, 2022 11:37 AM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] More tires >> >> I have never even looked at these >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Excellent. I purchased a set of Vredensteins from Radial Tire because they >>> were 1) manufactured in Holland; and 2) the least pricey among all-season >>> alternatives. >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Michelin, Vredestein etc. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Define non-trash tires please. > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Alles. >> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing >> failures just wore too quickly. >> YMMV >> Fred. >> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I >>> owned, and was very pleased with them. -D > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 >> miles >>> on them before I crashed into the tree > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No >>> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very >>> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, >>> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops >>> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >> Subject: [MBZ] More tires >> >> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for >> Michelins. >> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Vredenstein was one of the only brands that still make tires in the OE size for my Karmann Ghia. They are not cheap but I wouldn't consider them super expensive. They are also a Summer tire with a warning not to use them below 40 degrees. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022, at 2:21 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > They are super expensive. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: March 21, 2022 11:37 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: Re: [MBZ] More tires > > I have never even looked at these > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Excellent. I purchased a set of Vredensteins from Radial Tire because they >> were 1) manufactured in Holland; and 2) the least pricey among all-season >> alternatives. >> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dimitri Seretakis >>> wrote: >>> >>> Michelin, Vredestein etc. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Define non-trash tires please. > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Alles. > My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No >>> casing > failures just wore too quickly. > YMMV > Fred. > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I >> owned, and was very pleased with them. >>> >>> -D >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 > miles >> on them before I crashed into the tree --FT Sent from iFōn >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No >> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very >> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I >>> drive, >> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or >>> stops >> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: ka...@striplin.net > Subject: [MBZ] More tires > > Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for > Michelins. > Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] More tires
They are super expensive. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 21, 2022 11:37 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] More tires I have never even looked at these Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Excellent. I purchased a set of Vredensteins from Radial Tire because they > were 1) manufactured in Holland; and 2) the least pricey among all-season > alternatives. > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dimitri Seretakis >> wrote: >> >> Michelin, Vredestein etc. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Define non-trash tires please. >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Alles. My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No >> casing failures just wore too quickly. YMMV Fred. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I > owned, and was very pleased with them. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 miles > on them before I crashed into the tree >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No > blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very > aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I >> drive, > I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or >> stops > suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] More tires Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for Michelins. Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] Corn based ethanol
Karl says: > Also known as cognitive dissonance. There's a LOT of that going on. I'd explain, but I don't feel like causing "cognitive dissonance" and getting moderated. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corn based ethanol
Oh a bit tongue in cheek, but like most things, the reality is complicated. Kind of like that far side of the cow holding a poorly painted sign that says "Eat More Chikin" It's difficult to teach a man to understand a concept when his livelihood depends upon him not understanding it. You arent going to get the cows to support less Chicken subsidies, because people would eat more beef. You also arent going to get corn farmers to believe that ethanol is environmentally damaging or worthless, or that ethanol subsidies are a bad idea, because they would then have to believe they are morally bad for participating in that, and they know they are not immoral, so ethanol must not be bad. Also known as cognitive dissonance. On Fri, Mar 18, 2022, 8:38 AM Curt Raymond wrote: > I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not. E85 is good race fuel, it's > probably okay in low humidity environments, it's lousy in most other > applications. > > -Curt > > > > On Friday, March 18, 2022, 11:17:21 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I keep hoping they will just require all cars to run on e85. But so far it > hasnt worked. > > Apart from being an important hedge against commodity prices for farmers, > the ddg's feed a lot of livestock. And real people work in those plants. > > Support farmers: Drink more vodka (within reason)! > > K > > > > On Sun, Mar 13, 2022, 5:14 AM mitch--- via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > On 2022-03-12 23:00, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote: > > > OK Don. > > > Y'know, when I read about using corn for fuel, I laughed my ass off! > > > And would bet that the Iowa corn farmers did too! > > > Another lobbyist victory. > > > Fred the sceptic. > > > > > > You're not wrong. > > Ethanol subsidies/mandates are now an entrenched political sacred cow. > > And some long serving members of Iowa's congressional delegation will > > never stand for the cow's demise. And I'm sure some of those subsidies > > make their way through lobbyists and PACs to congressional re-election > > campaigns outside of Iowa also. > > > > Mitch. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Cheap tars
Yeah, that’s one problem with the W163s. There’s only a couple of manufacturers that make that tire size. I wondered if you could go to another size that’s more common? -D > On Mar 21, 2022, at 2:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > I had these Lizetti tires on the ML500 that seemed pretty good until one has > loosed a belt it seems. The company doesn’t make them anymore but now they > have Lionhart and Lexani which are relatively inexpensive. I called the > company a coupla months ago to inquire about getting another tire but now > it’s time for a set anyway. They said they made those tires in Thailand I > think, maybe Vietnam. > > The ML has an odd size so there aren’t a lot of choices but there’s these > > https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KZXHBS8/ref=pe_2313360_628788630_em_1p_0_lm > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Cheap tars
I had these Lizetti tires on the ML500 that seemed pretty good until one has loosed a belt it seems. The company doesn’t make them anymore but now they have Lionhart and Lexani which are relatively inexpensive. I called the company a coupla months ago to inquire about getting another tire but now it’s time for a set anyway. They said they made those tires in Thailand I think, maybe Vietnam. The ML has an odd size so there aren’t a lot of choices but there’s these https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KZXHBS8/ref=pe_2313360_628788630_em_1p_0_lm --FT Sent from iFōn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Agreed. The Kumhos I put on the W126 were only because I couldn’t find a decent (“domestic”) tire in the proper size. They did well, I was happy with them. Certainly better than a “Primewell” or something like that. -D > On Mar 21, 2022, at 1:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > They're not even Chinese, they're made in South Korea. > > While I prefer made in USA stuff I'm really only anti-made in China. > > -Curt > > > On Monday, March 21, 2022, 01:35:55 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > > > I bought Khumho tires for the 85 300D and loved them. No issues back and > forth from Michigan to Texas. They will out date before the miles wear them > no out. > > Michael E. Esh > > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Michelin, Vredestein etc. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Define non-trash tires please. >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Alles. My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing failures just wore too quickly. YMMV Fred. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I > owned, and was very pleased with them. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 miles > on them before I crashed into the tree >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No > blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very > aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, > I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops > suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] More tires Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for Michelins. Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives
Re: [MBZ] More tires
They're not even Chinese, they're made in South Korea. While I prefer made in USA stuff I'm really only anti-made in China. -Curt On Monday, March 21, 2022, 01:35:55 PM EDT, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote: I bought Khumho tires for the 85 300D and loved them. No issues back and forth from Michigan to Texas. They will out date before the miles wear them no out. Michael E. Esh > On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Michelin, Vredestein etc. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Define non-trash tires please. >> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Alles. >>> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing >>> failures just wore too quickly. >>> YMMV >>> Fred. >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I owned, and was very pleased with them. > > -D > >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 >>> miles on them before I crashed into the tree >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires >>> >>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for >>> Michelins. >>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> Fred Moir >>> Lynn MA >>> Diesel preferred >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list
Re: [MBZ] More tires
I bought Khumho tires for the 85 300D and loved them. No issues back and forth from Michigan to Texas. They will out date before the miles wear them no out. Michael E. Esh > On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > Michelin, Vredestein etc. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Define non-trash tires please. >> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Alles. >>> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing >>> failures just wore too quickly. >>> YMMV >>> Fred. >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I owned, and was very pleased with them. > > -D > >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 >>> miles on them before I crashed into the tree >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires >>> >>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for >>> Michelins. >>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> -- >>> Fred Moir >>> Lynn MA >>> Diesel preferred >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dexter watch offer
$75 is going to buy you a plastic monstrosity made in China. Why would anyone who is into fine time pieces want a plastic monstrosity? I quit wearing a watch full time when my last Timex died and I had a cell phone. A few years ago Angie bought me a Bulova Marine Star which is really the only jewelry I wear other than my wedding ring. I don't wear it a lot because I'd go wrench on a car and forget its there and damage it but it's nice for occasional use. Frankly I don't understand the allure of the smart watch. I'm trying to get less contact with my phone, not strap the dang thing to my wrist... -Curt On Monday, March 21, 2022, 12:25:33 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: OK. If anyone wants to recommend a different high tech watch in that price range ($75 max) I'd be interested, offline if you prefer. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 12:21 PM wrote: > Ugly, busy, hard to read. Alloy case? What alloy? Perhaps Zamak. > > You should NOT. > > Greg > > > I own about a dozen retro self wind and other (mostly Wittnauer and > > Longines) wrist watches but am tempted to add this newfangled watch to my > > collection. Should I? > > > https://technigadgets.net/products/dexter-square-military-big-face-infantry-digital-watch?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_LXZ37nX9gIVSeuHCh1Irw1REAEYASAAEgJhlvD_BwE > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
I have never even looked at these Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Excellent. I purchased a set of Vredensteins from Radial Tire because they > were 1) manufactured in Holland; and 2) the least pricey among all-season > alternatives. > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dimitri Seretakis >> wrote: >> >> Michelin, Vredestein etc. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Define non-trash tires please. >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Alles. My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No >> casing failures just wore too quickly. YMMV Fred. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I > owned, and was very pleased with them. >> >> -D >> >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 miles > on them before I crashed into the tree >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No > blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very > aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I >> drive, > I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or >> stops > suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] More tires Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for Michelins. Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dexter watch offer
No Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I own about a dozen retro self wind and other (mostly Wittnauer and > Longines) wrist watches but am tempted to add this newfangled watch to my > collection. Should I? > https://technigadgets.net/products/dexter-square-military-big-face-infantry-digital-watch?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_LXZ37nX9gIVSeuHCh1Irw1REAEYASAAEgJhlvD_BwE > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] weird The passenger window does not go down, radio does not work, paint is crappy, and rear seats are ripped. 1984 Mercedes 300sd turbo diesel - $3, 000 (Saint Petersburg)
At first looked like a good deal but then it quickly was apparently it’s a turd. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 9:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1984-mercedes-300sd/7460882442.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dexter watch offer
OK. If anyone wants to recommend a different high tech watch in that price range ($75 max) I'd be interested, offline if you prefer. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 12:21 PM wrote: > Ugly, busy, hard to read. Alloy case? What alloy? Perhaps Zamak. > > You should NOT. > > Greg > > > I own about a dozen retro self wind and other (mostly Wittnauer and > > Longines) wrist watches but am tempted to add this newfangled watch to my > > collection. Should I? > > > https://technigadgets.net/products/dexter-square-military-big-face-infantry-digital-watch?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_LXZ37nX9gIVSeuHCh1Irw1REAEYASAAEgJhlvD_BwE > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dexter watch offer
Ugly, busy, hard to read. Alloy case? What alloy? Perhaps Zamak. You should NOT. Greg > I own about a dozen retro self wind and other (mostly Wittnauer and > Longines) wrist watches but am tempted to add this newfangled watch to my > collection. Should I? > https://technigadgets.net/products/dexter-square-military-big-face-infantry-digital-watch?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_LXZ37nX9gIVSeuHCh1Irw1REAEYASAAEgJhlvD_BwE > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Exactly! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > Excellent. I purchased a set of Vredensteins from Radial Tire because they > were 1) manufactured in Holland; and 2) the least pricey among all-season > alternatives. > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dimitri Seretakis >> wrote: >> Michelin, Vredestein etc. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > Define non-trash tires please. >> > >> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Alles. >> >> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing >> >> failures just wore too quickly. >> >> YMMV >> >> Fred. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! >> >>> >> >>> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> >> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I >> >>> owned, and was very pleased with them. >> >> -D >> >> > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 >> >> miles >> >>> on them before I crashed into the tree >> > >> > --FT >> > Sent from iFōn >> > >> >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No >> >>> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very >> >>> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, >> >>> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops >> >>> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. >> >> >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> >> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM >> >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >> >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >> >> Subject: [MBZ] More tires >> >> >> >> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for >> >> Michelins. >> >> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ___ >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>> >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Fred Moir >> >> Lynn MA >> >> Diesel preferred >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Excellent. I purchased a set of Vredensteins from Radial Tire because they were 1) manufactured in Holland; and 2) the least pricey among all-season alternatives. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:39 AM Dimitri Seretakis wrote: > Michelin, Vredestein etc. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Define non-trash tires please. > > > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Alles. > >> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No > casing > >> failures just wore too quickly. > >> YMMV > >> Fred. > >> > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I > >>> owned, and was very pleased with them. > > -D > > > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 > >> miles > >>> on them before I crashed into the tree > > > > --FT > > Sent from iFōn > > > >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No > >>> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very > >>> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I > drive, > >>> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or > stops > >>> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. > >> > >> > >> Rick > >> > >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM > >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net > >> Subject: [MBZ] More tires > >> > >> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for > >> Michelins. > >> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Fred Moir > >> Lynn MA > >> Diesel preferred > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Michelin, Vredestein etc. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Define non-trash tires please. > >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Alles. >> My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing >> failures just wore too quickly. >> YMMV >> Fred. >> >> On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I >>> owned, and was very pleased with them. -D > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 >> miles >>> on them before I crashed into the tree > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >>> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No >>> blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very >>> aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, >>> I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops >>> suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >> Subject: [MBZ] More tires >> >> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for >> Michelins. >> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> >> -- >> Fred Moir >> Lynn MA >> Diesel preferred >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Define non-trash tires please. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 11:12 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Alles. > My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing > failures just wore too quickly. > YMMV > Fred. > > On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I > > owned, and was very pleased with them. > > > > > > -D > > > > > >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 > miles > > on them before I crashed into the tree > > >> > > >> --FT > > >> Sent from iFōn > > >> > > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No > > blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very > > aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, > > I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops > > suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> Rick > > >>> > > >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > >>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM > > >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > > >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > >>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net > > >>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires > > >>> > > >>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for > Michelins. > > >>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dexter watch offer
I'm as big a fan of retro styling as any, but that thing is just weird. NOBODY back in the day when these style elements were mainstream would have made anything that looked like this. WTF is up with the mix of "9" and "three" for hour markers on #1? It just seems... off. Also, I'm not really a fan of hands for a round clock set in a very long rectangle. Hard to read, unless you just pretend it's a mark-less round dial. Looks like it was designed by the Borg. Kinda a strong 'patchwork' vibe to it. The Chinglish advert is not that attractive, either. Also, the LCD display patch should be e-Ink. _That_ would be classy. Perhaps the LCD is readable in dark, or near-dark? Couldn't say, there's no online information on how to use it readily available. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Alles. My late 300td '87 had new Kumhos and they only lasted 20K miles. No casing failures just wore too quickly. YMMV Fred. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 8:15 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I > owned, and was very pleased with them. > > > > -D > > > >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 miles > on them before I crashed into the tree > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iFōn > >> > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No > blow outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very > aggressively though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, > I'd buy them. Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops > suddenly, I'd read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. > >>> > >>> > >>> Rick > >>> > >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM > >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com > >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > >>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net > >>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires > >>> > >>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for Michelins. > >>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Dexter watch offer
It’s certainly beautiful but at that price it’s probably made in China so I’d say no. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 10:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I own about a dozen retro self wind and other (mostly Wittnauer and > Longines) wrist watches but am tempted to add this newfangled watch to my > collection. Should I? > https://technigadgets.net/products/dexter-square-military-big-face-infantry-digital-watch?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_LXZ37nX9gIVSeuHCh1Irw1REAEYASAAEgJhlvD_BwE > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] No low ballers please !! In real nice shape !! Mercedes 560 SEL Sedan 1990 (low org miles) - $10, 000 (Winston Salem)
Obviously a scam artist. Can't even spell loballers correctly. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 10:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This does look very nice. mostly > > > https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/cto/d/winston-salem-mercedes-560-sel-sedan/7460687663.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] weird The passenger window does not go down, radio does not work, paint is crappy, and rear seats are ripped. 1984 Mercedes 300sd turbo diesel - $3, 000 (Saint Petersburg)
If seller can document the miles that is worth the asking price. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 10:47 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1984-mercedes-300sd/7460882442.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 220D 4 speed manual 1970 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $12, 000
Might be worth it with either/and a sunroof and power windows. On Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 10:55 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Beautiful car, 70s realtor spec > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/266370689024986 > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Dexter watch offer
I own about a dozen retro self wind and other (mostly Wittnauer and Longines) wrist watches but am tempted to add this newfangled watch to my collection. Should I? https://technigadgets.net/products/dexter-square-military-big-face-infantry-digital-watch?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI_LXZ37nX9gIVSeuHCh1Irw1REAEYASAAEgJhlvD_BwE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 220D 4 speed manual 1970 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D, $12, 000
Beautiful car, 70s realtor spec https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/266370689024986 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Selling my beater 2006 Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class CLS 500 Coupe 4D, $3, 000
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1490750458043022 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] weird The passenger window does not go down, radio does not work, paint is crappy, and rear seats are ripped. 1984 Mercedes 300sd turbo diesel - $3, 000 (Saint Petersburg)
https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1984-mercedes-300sd/7460882442.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No low ballers please !! In real nice shape !! Mercedes 560 SEL Sedan 1990 (low org miles) - $10, 000 (Winston Salem)
This does look very nice. mostly https://winstonsalem.craigslist.org/cto/d/winston-salem-mercedes-560-sel-sedan/7460687663.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Seriously guys! Stop putting trash tires on these cars! Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:21 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I owned, > and was very pleased with them. > > -D > >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 miles on >> them before I crashed into the tree >> >> --FT >> Sent from iFōn >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No blow >>> outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very aggressively >>> though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, I'd buy them. >>> Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops suddenly, I'd >>> read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. >>> >>> >>> Rick >>> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >>> Subject: [MBZ] More tires >>> >>> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for Michelins. >>> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More tires
Agreed. I put some Kumhos on the 350SDL, or one of the last W126s I owned, and was very pleased with them. -D > On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:55 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Kumhos are decent. I got a set for the $500E300 and put a few 100 miles on > them before I crashed into the tree > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On Mar 20, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I've had Kumho. They are tires. They are round. The are black. No blow >> outs. No weird noise. No weird vibration. I don't drive very aggressively >> though, so YMMV. If I was putting them on something I drive, I'd buy them. >> Something for someone who drives very aggressively or stops suddenly, I'd >> read the reviews on like tire rack or discount tire. >> >> >> Rick >> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Sent: March 20, 2022 9:34 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Cc: ka...@striplin.net >> Subject: [MBZ] More tires >> >> Need to put new tires on the GL, not paying $400 a piece for Michelins. >> Looking at Kumho and Nexen. Anybody used either? >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
