[MBZ] Wretched Wife (not mine...)

2006-09-26 Thread Bob Rentfro
So...I've been waiting since June or July for this guy, who owns the '72 350SL, 
to get well enough to go through the apparently difficult task of taking $1500 
from me. Over this time I've stopped by the house a couple of time to check on 
him and his wife. I hepled him with a battery issue on his Ford Conversion van 
sitting in his drive. Offered at least three times to give him the money and 
I'd pick up the cars (he was throwing in the old W108 under the tarp) when he 
was ready to part with them (he wanted to reinstall the radio and the HVAC 
controls and the rest of the console...when he was feeling better before I took 
the car).
So, I call today to check on him and his wife says they sold it to a friend and 
I better talk to him. He was apoligetic big time to me...his wife was carping 
at him in the backround...she evidently sold it to someone for far more $$ that 
he wanted from me. She did it while he was in a three day coma in the hsp two 
weeks ago. 
The strory of my lifeundone by a woman again.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 159K
'87 Acura Legend  177K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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Am I the only one here who has no earthly idea what all this is about?
I guess I just stick to making electricity by bashing molecules together.

Bob Rentfro
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'87 Acura Legend  177K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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 On 9/25/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for bringing this up!  We have a 2003 IMac with v. 9.0X OS and
 want
 to upgrate to OS 10.XX   Questions:

 1) Is this upgrade available for FREE at the Apple website?

 2) Will we wipe out all our files if we do upgrade the OS from 9.0X to
 10.0X
 ?

 3) Should I even attempt this at home, or should I ask my computer genius
 son to do it for me?


 I would recommend 4) save yourself the heartache and just buy a new
 Mac Mini (with OS X preinstalled, of course).  Getting OS X running on
 a G3 is usually not a problem, but it will be painfully slow.  (Your
 mileage may vary, of course.  I use a Sawtooth [2nd-gen G4] maxed out
 with a 1.2 GHz accelerator, Radeon 8500 video, and 1.5 Gb of RAM and I
 still feel like Tiger is sluggish, but many are happy with it.)

 Alex Chamberlain
 '87 300D Turbo
 '93 Isuzu Trooper

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Re: [MBZ] Knecht oil filters

2006-09-26 Thread Rory

I was told that Knecht is the OEM supplier for MBZ.  Lose the star and the
blue and silver box= $7 filter!

On 9/25/06, Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Whaddya' ll think of Knecht oil filters for our MB diesels?
TIA
G. M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] Knecht oil filters

2006-09-26 Thread Michael
Rory,

I lubed the linkages on the benz like you said and the gas pedal problem is 
fixed!

thanks, Michael

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I was told that Knecht is the OEM supplier for MBZ.  Lose the star and the
blue and silver box= $7 filter!

On 9/25/06, Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Whaddya' ll think of Knecht oil filters for our MB diesels?
 TIA
 G. M. Brown
 Rochester, NY
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Re: [MBZ] Knecht oil filters

2006-09-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger
I hope you used ATF and not WD40 or other stuff...  Use a  
little oiler can or even a squeeze bottle...  Rinse all the catsup  
out first...  Can't remember when I last saw one of the old oil cans  
that went boink when you pressed on the bottom..


Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ...
On Sep 25, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Michael wrote:


Rory,

I lubed the linkages on the benz like you said and the gas pedal  
problem is fixed!


thanks, Michael

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I was told that Knecht is the OEM supplier for MBZ.  Lose the star  
and the

blue and silver box= $7 filter!

On 9/25/06, Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Whaddya' ll think of Knecht oil filters for our MB diesels?
TIA
G. M. Brown
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Re: [MBZ] worst place on earth to drive - was: OM617 head

2006-09-26 Thread LarryT
I was in Saudi Arabia in the late 70's on a Natural Gas Project and found 
some interesting aspects of local highway driving.  I was told the Muslim 
drivers would pass on hills and curves and leave their continued existance 
in the hands of Allah - don't know if true of not but I saw a *lot* of 
passing on hills and curves.  Also was told there was a lot of eye disease 
among the indigent people that came from all the sand flying all the time 
(which was not in doubt) so a lot of drivers did not have great eyesight - 
especially at night.  Another common story was the locals believed the 
right-of-way was bestowed on who ever had the largest vehicle.  Hence the 
locals liked to drive the big trucks so they'd have the maximum 
right-of-way.  Interesting concept.


We also heard about foreigners always getting blamed for all accidents 
because if they hadn't been there the accident would not have occurred - so 
naturally it was the foreigners fault.   There was also a story of a 
Westerner stopping at an accident and upon seeing a Saudi woman not 
breathing he removed her from the car and applied resusitation which aved 
her life.  The story went that he was arrested and taken to jail for 
assaulting a Saudi woman.  Seems hard to believe but after seeing hands 
hanging in the middle of the main town square (as a warning to potential 
theives) some things became easier to believe.


One thing I found interesting was passing little settlements for lack of a 
better word out in the desert - there's be a dozen or so large wodden 
shipping containers like those large equipment was shipped in with doors and 
windows cut into them and TV antennas attached and a MB or Chev. Suburban 
(remember the big vehicle and right-of-way thing?)  out front - never any 
Fords because they believed Ford was owned by Jewish investors.  Seems they 
aren't aware of the publicly owned business concept. ;-)


Lots of other things went on - but they have nothing to do with Mercedes. 
;-)


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Man, does Jeff have it right! I drove in Cairo for a month and almost
had heart failure every day. The streets did not even have lanes
marked--not that it would matter anyway. It was every man for himself.
There is nothing in the U.S. that remotely compares to it.

Tom Potter (Who takes Houston traffic with a smile)

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I agree with Hendriknone of those bad drivers would last ten
seconds in Cairo or Tehran. In Tehran, not only do they not bother with
lanes or stoplight colours, they don't even care what SIDE of the road
they use! Not to mention the sidewalks!

Ever feeling suicidal, try crossing the roads there as a pedestrian.

lol

Jeff Zedic
Toronto

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Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger

Brian,

Just use your turn signals and stop causing yourself so much stress  
and tension!  You'll feel better and those of us who also use turn  
signals thank you for joining us in our fight to GET EVERYONE TO USE  
TURN SIGNALS!


I learned how to use CAPS from Marshall to emphasize a point!

Take care and be safe!

Chuck
Phoenix AZ

On Sep 25, 2006, at 1:48 PM, Zoltan Finks wrote:


Oh I see it, and I am frustrated. I'm just trying to figure out how
much I should care about the good of the world around me that doesn't
seem to be doing the same. I may be assanine, but to faithfully use
your turn signal in order to do the right thing began to seem naive
and to get old. And I'm just using this forum to rant and get some
frustrations out.

Brian

Mike wrote:

You see a problem, claim to be frustrated, and yet you don't see your
contribution to the problem to be an issue.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor.

2006-09-26 Thread Peter Frederick

Mouser electronics

Peter




Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread LarryT
Michael wrote:The left lane is for passing.  How come 98% of people on the 
road don't
understand this?  Its not for driving slightly faster than the right 
lane.


Amen!!  Not only do a lot of people drive *slightly* faster then the right 
lane - a lot drive the same or slightly slower??


Drives me absolutely nuts.  Also, I believe most of the states have laws on 
the books sating the left lane is a passing lane.


But it's never gonna change - if anything drivers will continue to get 
worse.   We need to raise the drivers lic age to more than 16 and extend the 
Learner's Permit time so they can get some experience.


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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble




Mike


On 9/25/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Wow. That is harsh. BUT I can see your side too - you cannot do your
job because people in cars will simply not let you in. What can you do
besides inch over? That sounds like the good compromise. Now, those
who will intentionally ditch people, I just can't see that.

Also:

Your theory assumes that someone is just sort of cruising and holding
their position behind or infront of your rear bumper. What if they are
advancing at a speed greater than yours, and will make their way past
you in a timely fashion (again, opinion enters in) but they are
technically behind your bumper when you put on your signal. You would
require them to lean on the brakes and let you over?

Brian

Robert wrote:

When driving big trucks, I follow the letter of the law, anyone whose
 front bumper is past my rear bumper when I hit the signal, I let them 
 go

 by, anyone whose front bumper is behind my rear bumper when I hit the
 signal is required to let me in, so it's 500 ft down the highway with
 the blinker on and anyone who was behind the bumper when I hit the
 signal, better get out of the way, because I'm coming over.

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Re: [MBZ] 126 420SEL

2006-09-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Timing chain and rails -- check stretch every 30,000 and condition of 
upper rail each oil change -- if the rail breaks, there is a very good 
chance the chunk that breaks off will go into the chain -- instant 
valve job.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Wretched Wife (not mine...)

2006-09-26 Thread Rich Thomas
Sounds like you had a verbal contract with the guy, she breeched it.  I 
guess if he was in a coma she could argue she had control, but still...


With a wife like that I am surprised he pulled out of the coma.

--R

Bob Rentfro wrote:

So...I've been waiting since June or July for this guy, who owns the '72 350SL, 
to get well enough to go through the apparently difficult task of taking $1500 
from me. Over this time I've stopped by the house a couple of time to check on 
him and his wife. I hepled him with a battery issue on his Ford Conversion van 
sitting in his drive. Offered at least three times to give him the money and 
I'd pick up the cars (he was throwing in the old W108 under the tarp) when he 
was ready to part with them (he wanted to reinstall the radio and the HVAC 
controls and the rest of the console...when he was feeling better before I took 
the car).
So, I call today to check on him and his wife says they sold it to a friend and I better talk to him. He was apoligetic big time to me...his wife was carping at him in the backround...she evidently sold it to someone for far more $$ that he wanted from me. She did it while he was in a three day coma in the hsp two weeks ago. 
The strory of my lifeundone by a woman again.


  





Re: [MBZ] W124 - 602.962 300D 2.5T Timing Chain Test

2006-09-26 Thread Peter Frederick
Yup.  Change at 5 or six degrees, though, don't wait til 8.  More 
sensitive to timing changes than the 617.


Timing marks on on top on that engine, and a bit harder to line up 
properly.  Line them up and read crank pulley.


Peter




Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen
The law here says that indicators must be used when changing lanes, does not 
matter if anyone is there to see them or not.

With me it's an automatic thing like checking the blind spot.
First thing I do is indicate, quick check of the mirrors and a look over the 
shoulder to see if an idiot is sitting in my blind spot. This is all done on 
auto pilot and yes I do have near misses but they are misses.


Hendrik
who thinks cars without good vision out the back are dumb (that is just 
about every car these days)


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So if I don't signal when nobody's behind me or are 2 to 3 miles back, am 
I

breaking the law should I get a ticket? And I do live in Calif.

Rory





[MBZ] 126 brake support joint

2006-09-26 Thread tom savage
A friend of mine has an '87 300SDL in need of new brake support/caster 
joints.  I've been under the car and it looks like the job can be done 
with the coil springs in place, unlike the 123.  Can it?  If so, the job 
looks pretty simple - any tricks or things to look out for?


Many thanks,
Tom



Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen
I take it you have never operated a heavy vehicle in traffic, I make a point 
of giving commercial drivers a fair go on the roads because they put up with 
the penisheads all day.
It also doesn't hurt to flash your high beams to let the truck driver know 
you have seen his/her intention to change lanes and you will not get in 
his/her way.
Anyway if the Government insists on handing out licenses to operate road 
missiles in breakfast cereal boxes you have to expect bad drivers. That is 
why the autobahn system works, good roads combined with good 
trainingooh and of course quality machines able to operate at high 
speeds.


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If you really want to screw up getting to where you are going - get in
an accident. Nice way to ruin your day.

People die because of tricks like that. And it may not be the other guy.

-Dave Walton





Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

2006-09-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen
Over here it is the law that every truck has two large signs on the back 
that states to give way to turning heavy vehicles. This is mainly related to 
when a truck has to turn from the outside lane around a corner but it is 
also related to changing lanes.

Basically if a truck says it has to change lanes you get out of it's way.
I think what Robert is trying to say is, using the indicator is politely 
asking people to make room for you, pushing into their lane is telling them 
to get the hell out of the way because I have to be where you are. Some 
drivers need to be reminded that they are not the only person on the road 
and there is a code of conduct (enforced by laws) to be followed. If you 
decide not to follow this code you will have to face the consequences of 
your action.


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I had to read this post several   times because I couldn't believe my 
eyes.

Maybe you would care to post, in it's entirety, the state (which state?)
traffic law that allows a driver to move over into another vehicle just 
because he

signalled an intention. You don't say anything about speed differentials.

RLE
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[MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2006-09-26 Thread Tom Hargrave
 


Thanks,
Tom Hargrave
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3.097
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3.113
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2.465
051205  2.425  2.428 

Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread dave walton

BT Wrong.

Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield.
Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.

I take it you have never driven in Europe - or have done so with
ignorance. Might want to touch up on that training you spoke about.

-Dave Walton


On 9/25/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I take it you have never operated a heavy vehicle in traffic, I make a point
of giving commercial drivers a fair go on the roads because they put up with
the penisheads all day.
It also doesn't hurt to flash your high beams to let the truck driver know
you have seen his/her intention to change lanes and you will not get in
his/her way.
Anyway if the Government insists on handing out licenses to operate road
missiles in breakfast cereal boxes you have to expect bad drivers. That is
why the autobahn system works, good roads combined with good
trainingooh and of course quality machines able to operate at high
speeds.

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 If you really want to screw up getting to where you are going - get in
 an accident. Nice way to ruin your day.

 People die because of tricks like that. And it may not be the other guy.

 -Dave Walton


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Re: [MBZ] Upgrades to OSX

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Pembleton
Oh Woger. we have the same machine!

I swore I would keep it forever, as it’s the last dual-boot mac. (Well,
except for the new intel duo ones with Bootcamp)

I keep drooling over the new ones, but since I am heavy in legacy Photoshop
and Pagemaker, I'll keep the iMac I have.

But

How does the 10.4.7 work with the older machine?

 
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forgive us novices.  we are stupid and worthless  :(

My G4 867 (out of date, now) has OS 9.2 and OS 10.4.7 co-existing on an 
unpartitioned hard drive and I can switch back and forth at will.

RLE.





Re: [MBZ] correct pronunciation of OS X

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Pembleton
Getting OSX to boot on a G3 iMac is tricky, especially the Bondi G3.

I'd say you should ask Poos, a Mac and PC IT professional, but you are mad
at him.
Soon you may run out of people to like?
 
_
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Manchester, MO
KLEB FOR PREZ!!

-Original Message-
From: Gary Hurst
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 4:15 PM

well, the mac has already blown up.  just flashed a question mark instead of
booting.

this is most distressing





Re: [MBZ] Lubing linkages (was Knecht oil filters)

2006-09-26 Thread Christopher McCann
uh.I used spray white lithium greasedid I screw up?
 
 Chris
 

Chuck Landenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I hope you used ATF and not WD40 
or other stuff...  Use a  
little oiler can or even a squeeze bottle...  Rinse all the catsup  
out first...  Can't remember when I last saw one of the old oil cans  
that went boink when you pressed on the bottom..

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ...
On Sep 25, 2006, at 4:15 PM, Michael wrote:

 Rory,

 I lubed the linkages on the benz like you said and the gas pedal  
 problem is fixed!

 thanks, Michael

 -Original Message-
 From: Rory 
 Sent: Sep 25, 2006 7:04 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Knecht oil filters

 I was told that Knecht is the OEM supplier for MBZ.  Lose the star  
 and the
 blue and silver box= $7 filter!

 On 9/25/06, Glenn M. Brown  wrote:

 Whaddya' ll think of Knecht oil filters for our MB diesels?
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Chris,

I don't know if screw up is the appropriate term.  But,  
apparently anything but ATF starts to accumulate crud/dust/etc.   
Don't know consequences, but not causing terminal problems..

I'd suggest when you get some time..  Disconnect each pop off  
link, use a QTip and clean it out, then squirt some ATF in.   
I pop each link, lube it w/ATF, then reconnect.  That way I can't  
connect the hipbone to the elbowbone.  BTDT

Opinions from far wiser listers are encouraged.

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ
On Sep 25, 2006, at 5:39 PM, 

Re: [MBZ] worst place on earth to drive - was: OM617 head

2006-09-26 Thread Mitch Haley
LarryT wrote:
  Another common story was the locals believed the
 right-of-way was bestowed on who ever had the largest vehicle. 

I read in a motorcycle magazine that the fastest moving vehicle
gets the ROW in Italy. Factory test riders from Bimota pass 
wherever they want. If there's oncoming traffic, it can just move
into the ditch. 

You can't pay me enough to get me to set foot in a Wahhabi hellhole,
especially Saudi Arabia. I'd sooner visit England. Unfortunately,
their international charitable works include muslim education, so
the worst of the Wahhabi attitudes are spreading fast, even in
America. It seems like Saudi Arabia produces more Imams than Israel
produces Rabbis. 
http://www.lauramansfield.com/j/smalltownusa.asp

Mitch.



[MBZ] Leaky injector

2006-09-26 Thread Curt Raymond
Gang,

On the way home tonight my '85 190D started to smell like diesel. At a light 
the engine shook and didn't seem right. Still it ran so I made for home.
I just checked it out and diesel sprays out of the top of the #1 injector. 
In lieu of a proper wrench I put a crecent (boo hiss) wrench on it and snugged 
it down a little which didn't help. I then took it off. Everything looks normal 
but what do I know?
I snugged it down again and its the same thing, #1 definately isn't firing and 
diesel sprays out of the top.
So the fuel is coming out of the top by where the hard line goes in I think. 
Its hard to tell though and I don't really want to stick my head in there to 
see...
Any ideas?
This of course couldn't happen at a worse time. I just found out today I get to 
move from technical support to Education services but the move will entail a 
couple really long and hard weeks. I totally don't need this right now.

-Curt


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I wonder if you got the famed 60x injector line fracture. Are all your little
plastic line retainers intact? You might need one line and a set of clips.



Re: [MBZ] Leaky injector

2006-09-26 Thread Peter Frederick

You need a new injector line, it's cracked at the top.

Get one pronto, you only need a 14 mm wrench to change it.

Peter




Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
oh hell, that reminds me of the last time I was in Alaska.  ALL the 
highways are 2 lane there.  Out in the middle of nowhere on this curvy, 
up and down highway, Im cruising along at posted up to probably 10 over. 
 I see this log truck in the distance.  Coming up FAST.  He then rides 
my ass ALL the way down the mountain.  I mean, 2 feet or less behind. 
At some point, I think he passed me rather wrecklessly in a non passing 
zone.


David Brodbeck wrote:


Robert  Tara Ludwick wrote:

Those guys that will ditch them, that's just plain rough and uncalled 
for, but they are in the right legally and if the bozo's in the cars 
weren't driving unsafely and illegally, they wouldn't be in that position.
 



When I lived in Houghton, I heard a news story about a guy who died when
a log truck put him in the ditch.  Seemed the truck driver was passing
this guy's minivan on a two-lane road and decided he wanted to pull back
into the right lane before the trailer was clear.  Log truck drivers
always seemed particularly aggressive to me about asserting what they
perceived as their right of way.

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Re: [MBZ] worst place on earth to drive - was: OM617 head

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

geez

TimothyPilgrim wrote:


I doubt there is anywhere in North America (don't know about Mexico
though) that has traffic half as bad as this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg9f93gpfbo

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Re: [MBZ] Knecht oil filters

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

They are OE, so I dont see a problem.

Glenn M. Brown wrote:


Whaddya' ll think of Knecht oil filters for our MB diesels?
TIA
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Re: [MBZ] Stalls in gear FIXED Now timing

2006-09-26 Thread M.Afzaal.Khan
Himine runs  smoothly at  700 RMP .but the idle goes up slightly the 
moment the A/T is engaged or the steering turned!
the vacuum speed stabilizer is very accurate to track the load and ups the 
idle.

mak


Excellent,

800-900 RPM?


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From: M.Afzaal.Khan [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I have the a M130 In  the 280S .108
 I have timing  At  5BTDC  and use the advance  section of the 
distributor ,

At TDC  this  engine didn't respond nicely  with a borderline retard
distributor..

mak
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Stalls in gear FIXED Now timing


 Now I just need to get the zeniths sorted out in my 69 250 AND my 72
 250C.  Lovely.  BTW, trim your posts.

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Mak,

 The emissions portion of my vehicle is not functioning. MB does not 
 sell

 replacements.

 Any idea how the EU version was setup timing wise? the US where at 4
 ATDC. That had a vacuum to retard the timing and would kick it up as 
 you

 accellerated and switched over to advance.

 This is a M130 250.

 BTW I tracked down my problem to the two carb mounting gaskets. Found 
 it
 with some carb cleaner. Tightend it up and ran much stronger. Put it 
 in
 gear, didn't stall, released the brake and had no problem with the 
 uphill

 driveway.

 Thanks everybody for their help!



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Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

The cops are only interested in writing tickets for speeding.

LarryT wrote:

Michael wrote:The left lane is for passing.  How come 98% of people on the 
road don't


understand this?  Its not for driving slightly faster than the right 
lane.



Amen!!  Not only do a lot of people drive *slightly* faster then the right 
lane - a lot drive the same or slightly slower??


Drives me absolutely nuts.  Also, I believe most of the states have laws on 
the books sating the left lane is a passing lane.


But it's never gonna change - if anything drivers will continue to get 
worse.   We need to raise the drivers lic age to more than 16 and extend the 
Learner's Permit time so they can get some experience.


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Mike


On 9/25/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Wow. That is harsh. BUT I can see your side too - you cannot do your
job because people in cars will simply not let you in. What can you do
besides inch over? That sounds like the good compromise. Now, those
who will intentionally ditch people, I just can't see that.

Also:

Your theory assumes that someone is just sort of cruising and holding
their position behind or infront of your rear bumper. What if they are
advancing at a speed greater than yours, and will make their way past
you in a timely fashion (again, opinion enters in) but they are
technically behind your bumper when you put on your signal. You would
require them to lean on the brakes and let you over?

Brian

Robert wrote:

When driving big trucks, I follow the letter of the law, anyone whose

front bumper is past my rear bumper when I hit the signal, I let them 
go

by, anyone whose front bumper is behind my rear bumper when I hit the
signal is required to let me in, so it's 500 ft down the highway with
the blinker on and anyone who was behind the bumper when I hit the
signal, better get out of the way, because I'm coming over.


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Re: [MBZ] Leaky injector

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

The line needs to be replaced

Curt Raymond wrote:


Gang,

On the way home tonight my '85 190D started to smell like diesel. At a light 
the engine shook and didn't seem right. Still it ran so I made for home.
I just checked it out and diesel sprays out of the top of the #1 injector. 
In lieu of a proper wrench I put a crecent (boo hiss) wrench on it and snugged it down a little which didn't help. I then took it off. Everything looks normal but what do I know?

I snugged it down again and its the same thing, #1 definately isn't firing and 
diesel sprays out of the top.
So the fuel is coming out of the top by where the hard line goes in I think. 
Its hard to tell though and I don't really want to stick my head in there to 
see...
Any ideas?
This of course couldn't happen at a worse time. I just found out today I get to 
move from technical support to Education services but the move will entail a 
couple really long and hard weeks. I totally don't need this right now.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] more lane changing

2006-09-26 Thread RELNGSON
Over here it is the law that every truck has two large signs on the back 
that states to give way to turning heavy vehicles. This is mainly related to
when a truck has to turn from the outside lane around a corner but it is also 
related to changing lanes.

It is fairly common now to see a sign on the trailer of a semi which reads 
caution this vehicle makes wide right turns with a depiction of the vehicle 
turning. These signs are a good idea but do not grant a god-given right to run 
over another vehicle that may be trapped with no out.

Basically if a truck says it has to change lanes you get out of it's way. I 
think what Robert is trying to say is, using the indicator is politely
asking people to make room for you, pushing into their lane is telling them 
to get the hell out of the way because I have to be where you are.

There was nothing polite about his wholehearted approval of ditching some 
poor bastard who didn't clear off.

 Some drivers need to be reminded that they are not the only person on the 
road and there is a code of conduct (enforced by laws) to be followed. If you
decide not to follow this code you will have to face the consequences of your 
action.

That applies to all.

As for me, I don't drive in a heavy vehicle's blind spots and if I am coming 
up on the right (legal in the US)   and I see he needs to move right, I will 
give him a flash and yield. On the left if there is a speed differential I 
accelerate smartly so he can maintain his momentum.

But he had damned well not try to ditch me because in this state that is an 
ticketable offense called Unsafe Lane Change.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] flashing

2006-09-26 Thread RELNGSON
Walton sez;

BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield. 
Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.

BT, not exactly

During DAYLIGHT hours, a flash means OK to move over. At NIGHT, lights off 
momentarily means the same thing.

RLE




Re: [MBZ] olde macs

2006-09-26 Thread RELNGSON
I swore I would keep it forever, as it?s the last dual-boot mac. (Well, 
except for the new intel duo ones with Bootcamp)

The last dual-boot Mac is later than mine. When Firewire 800 was introduced, 
Classic was no more. I've been looking into this because not only is 867mhz a 
bit slow for X-Plane, a flight simulator, but my box's video card is not fast 
enough to render the scenery fast enough.

I've been watching Craigslist locally for one of these and the used prices 
seem to hovering around $800. 

RLE


Re: [MBZ] olde macs

2006-09-26 Thread Peter Frederick

Gosh, I really feel out of step!

I moved up to a BW G3 this year from a beige, really thought it was a 
big step!


Peter




Re: [MBZ] olde macs

2006-09-26 Thread LT Don

I've sold some Apple total trash on EBay to guys in Japan for big bucks.
Don't know why but Japan is lusting after old Apple stuff. An Apple II+
brought almost $300 plus shipping -- I took it out of someone's trash.

I'd think an early Mac would bring $500 and a  well, something really
desirable.

Best I can tell, they (the Japs) are gutting the Apple motherboards for
music synthesizers or something like that. Must be a chip (not to be
confused with as Richmond area Chip) thing.

The only thing on EBay that brought me more profit than Apple II was Drum
and Bugle Corps record albums -- an easy $200 for stuff found at GoodWill
for $1. Times five or so!

D.


On 9/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I swore I would keep it forever, as it?s the last dual-boot mac. (Well,
except for the new intel duo ones with Bootcamp)

The last dual-boot Mac is later than mine. When Firewire 800 was
introduced,
Classic was no more. I've been looking into this because not only is
867mhz a
bit slow for X-Plane, a flight simulator, but my box's video card is not
fast
enough to render the scenery fast enough.

I've been watching Craigslist locally for one of these and the used prices
seem to hovering around $800.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] olde macs

2006-09-26 Thread Mitch Haley
LT Don wrote:
 
 I'd think an early Mac would bring $500 and a  well, something really
 desirable.

I bought a Mac Plus for $250 in 1991 (University surplus). Think I can
get my money back?



Re: [MBZ] olde macs

2006-09-26 Thread LT Don

Two-fold.

On 9/25/06, Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


LT Don wrote:

 I'd think an early Mac would bring $500 and a  well, something
really
 desirable.

I bought a Mac Plus for $250 in 1991 (University surplus). Think I can
get my money back?

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Re: [MBZ] olde macs

2006-09-26 Thread Frank Pembleton
On 9/25/06 9:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I swore I would keep it forever, as it?s the last dual-boot mac. (Well,
 except for the new intel duo ones with Bootcamp)
 
 The last dual-boot Mac is later than mine. When Firewire 800 was introduced,
 Classic was no more. I've been looking into this because not only is 867mhz a
 bit slow for X-Plane, a flight simulator, but my box's video card is not fast
 enough to render the scenery fast enough.
 
 I've been watching Craigslist locally for one of these and the used prices
 seem to hovering around $800.
 
 RLE

This is what mine is:

  Model # :  F8812LL/A
  Machine Model:17 iMac Flat Screen
  CPU Type:PowerPC G4  (2.1)
  Number Of CPUs:1
  CPU Speed:800 MHz
  L2 Cache (per CPU):256 KB
  Memory:768 MB
  Bus Speed:100 MHz
  Boot ROM Version:4.4.5f3

Maybe it's not the last dual boot...  I thought that it was.
Meaning it actually can boot into OS 9.22 with NO access to X or it can boot
Into OS 10.x And run legacy apps in Classic Mode


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Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Rory

Hey guys I wasn't that I don't signal just asking the question kinda an
informal poll, social engineering test I guess. No I use them all the time a
habit I picked up when I had my CDL and riding my GoldWing cause you have to
let everyone know what your going to do.

All I need now is some kind of neural interface to sense when I'm going to
make a lane change.


Have fun all.

On 9/25/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Europe is a long way from where I am and seeing that I am down under we do
things back to front as well. Over here a flash of the high beams means
you
have seen the indicators, you are going to give way and it is safe to
change
lanes. Do it right and you'll earn a wave from the truckie. It is hard to
turn off the lights when they are not on.
Only places I have driven in Europe is Britain and Santorini (but I don't
think that really counts).
So I am afraid I will have to take those points off you Dave:-) and I
might
take a few more because I don't know wether I quite like the tone of your
message:-|

- Original Message -
From: dave walton [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 10:01 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble


 BT Wrong.

 Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield.
 Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.

 I take it you have never driven in Europe - or have done so with
 ignorance. Might want to touch up on that training you spoke about.

 -Dave Walton



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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

2006-09-26 Thread andrew strasfogel

Is there also a law requiring truck operators to list a phone number
to report erratic driving?

On 9/25/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Over here it is the law that every truck has two large signs on the back
that states to give way to turning heavy vehicles. This is mainly related to
when a truck has to turn from the outside lane around a corner but it is
also related to changing lanes.
Basically if a truck says it has to change lanes you get out of it's way.
I think what Robert is trying to say is, using the indicator is politely
asking people to make room for you, pushing into their lane is telling them
to get the hell out of the way because I have to be where you are. Some
drivers need to be reminded that they are not the only person on the road
and there is a code of conduct (enforced by laws) to be followed. If you
decide not to follow this code you will have to face the consequences of
your action.

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes



 I had to read this post several   times because I couldn't believe my
 eyes.
 Maybe you would care to post, in it's entirety, the state (which state?)
 traffic law that allows a driver to move over into another vehicle just
 because he
 signalled an intention. You don't say anything about speed differentials.

 RLE
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Re: [MBZ] FW: Today's Diesel Prices

2006-09-26 Thread andrew strasfogel

My best  D.C. service station here still charges $2.89

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(Self Service Cash Price in Dollars per Gallon, Including Taxes)

Diesel Prices Web URL:
http://tonto.eia.doe.gov/oog/info/wohdp/diesel.asp


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 DATEAVG   COAST ENGLAND   ATL ATL   MIDWEST  COAST   MTN   COAST
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060925  2.595  2.600  2.730   2.746   2.526   2.506   2.526  2.827  2.892
2.910
060918  2.713  2.699  2.832   2.844   2.625   2.624   2.636  3.052  3.014
3.002
060911  2.857  2.826  2.955   2.958   2.757   2.787   2.770  3.236  3.137
3.125
060904  2.967  2.911  3.009   3.032   2.850   2.937   2.872  3.318  3.199
3.175
060828  3.027  2.955  3.035   3.074   2.897   3.026   2.923  3.346  3.229
3.200
060821  3.033  2.953  3.049   3.078   2.890   3.041   2.923  3.349  3.237
3.221
060814  3.065  3.017  3.077   3.130   2.964   3.065   2.974  3.311  3.218
3.220
060807  3.055  3.026  3.061   3.104   2.989   3.070   2.988  3.208  3.113
3.130
060731  2.980  2.958  2.991   3.030   2.924   2.988   2.925  3.052  3.066
3.093
060724  2.946  2.925  2.972   3.002   2.888   2.951   2.895  2.987  3.047
3.097
060717  2.926  2.906  2.970   2.992   2.864   2.927   2.868  2.960  3.051
3.097
060710  2.918  2.887  2.947   2.963   2.849   2.919   2.866  2.966  3.060
3.113
060703  2.898  2.874  2.948   2.951   2.834   2.887   2.845  2.958  3.056
3.119
060626  2.867  2.864  2.952   2.956   2.816   2.819   2.822  2.960  3.068
3.140
060619  2.915  2.907  2.960   2.990   2.867   2.873   2.859  3.018  3.117
3.185
060612  2.918  2.909  2.979   2.997   2.866   2.874   2.848  3.041  3.149
3.217
060605  2.890  2.881  2.969   2.992   2.825   2.837   2.805  3.043  3.159
3.227
060529  2.882  2.873  2.966   2.987   2.815   2.824   2.798  3.044  3.161
3.227
060522  2.888  2.877  2.982   2.987   2.820   2.836   2.801  3.024  3.175
3.234
060515  2.920  2.907  3.003   3.014   2.853   2.870   2.829  3.074  3.192
3.242
060508  2.897  2.884  2.972   2.983   2.834   2.841   2.814  3.054  3.180
3.244
060501  2.896  2.892  2.979   2.987   2.843   2.853   2.832  3.012  3.098
3.163
060424  2.876  2.888  2.961   2.978   2.843   2.847   2.817  2.903  3.026
3.103
060417  2.765  2.788  2.865   2.876   2.743   2.735   2.725  2.756  2.881
2.933
060410  2.654  2.676  2.769   2.767   2.629   2.614   2.601  2.680  2.812
2.881
060403  2.617  2.639  2.731   2.727   2.593   2.578   2.579  2.629  2.753
2.812
060327  2.565  2.586  2.700   2.681   2.536   2.523   2.528  2.601  2.698
2.727
060320  2.581  2.606  2.702   2.697   2.558   2.533   2.552  2.608  2.716
2.738
060313  2.543  2.567  2.687   2.681   2.507   2.491   2.497  2.566  2.725
2.747
060306  2.545  2.571  2.656   2.682   2.516   2.500   2.499  2.545  2.711
2.739
060227  2.471  2.493  2.593   2.593   2.441   2.417   2.443  2.509  2.623
2.688
060220  2.455  2.487  2.593   2.580   2.437   2.398   2.427  2.497  2.594
2.674
060213  2.476  2.509  2.617   2.591   2.464   2.419   2.447  2.500  2.621
2.709
060206  2.499  2.536  2.659   2.618   2.490   2.445   2.463  2.503  2.645
2.739
060130  2.489  2.530  2.661   2.618   2.481   2.431   2.455  2.474  2.640
2.733
060123  2.472  2.516  2.668   2.610   2.462   2.423   2.432  2.435  2.608
2.674
060116  2.449  2.489  2.663   2.605   2.424   2.408   2.415  2.411  2.565
2.603
060109  2.485  2.528  2.676   2.626   2.473   2.451   2.453  2.421  2.577
2.601
060102  2.442  2.481  2.645   2.590   2.420   2.412   2.414  2.392  2.519
2.538
051226  2.448  2.481  2.643   2.599   2.416   2.420   2.421  2.410  2.523
2.543
051219  2.462  2.499  2.647   2.609   2.438   2.443   2.435  2.410  2.505
2.521

Re: [MBZ] worst place on earth to drive - was: OM617 head

2006-09-26 Thread andrew strasfogel

How ironic, since Henry Ford  was  an enthusiastic anti-semite...

On 9/25/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

geez

TimothyPilgrim wrote:

 I doubt there is anywhere in North America (don't know about Mexico
 though) that has traffic half as bad as this:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg9f93gpfbo

 Tim
 1982 300TD Moby
 1991 300TE 4Matic Beulah

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Re: [MBZ] flashing

2006-09-26 Thread andrew strasfogel

Here (MD/DC) it's illegal to flash one's high beams.

On 9/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Walton sez;

BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield.
Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.

BT, not exactly

During DAYLIGHT hours, a flash means OK to move over. At NIGHT, lights off
momentarily means the same thing.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Tattle tale

2006-09-26 Thread RELNGSON
Is there also a law requiring truck operators to list a phone number
to report erratic driving?

A law? No. But lots of commercial vehicles have those 800 numbers posted for 
that purpose.

In Washington a 911 call will get a trooper (if available) on the offender's 
case. I wouldn't hesitate.

RLE


Re: [MBZ] flashing

2006-09-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger
It was a great feeling of communication when you were passed by  a  
big rig and you turned your lights off and on...   And then watch the  
rig move over knowing they were clear to move back right and get a  
big thank you by seeing the running lights on the trailer off and on!


We've lost something over the years

Just enjoying some fine memories...

Take care and be safe,

Chuck
Phoenix AZ


On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Walton sez;

BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to  
yield.

Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.

BT, not exactly

During DAYLIGHT hours, a flash means OK to move over. At NIGHT,  
lights off

momentarily means the same thing.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread redghost
The native born are real sticklers for using signals.  In seattle  you 
can tell the natives because they make sure to signal all turns. Some 
are kind enough to begin signaling a few miles before they approach an 
intersection or three as well as off ramps.  They are even able to 
continue signaling miles after they have made a turn, so that you know 
they did signal.


On Sep 24, 2006, at 9:17 PM, Zeitgeist wrote:

Here in Warshington, each of us native-born are empowered to issue 
citizen

warrants and arrests (if necessary), when you farners fail to use your
signals when changing lanes or turning.   We don't take kindly to such
infractions.  We're too polite to use our horn, but we do harbor long
resentments and may in fact, seek other more creative means of 
seeking

retribution for your real or imagined slights.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!   DO NOT MOVE HERE...EVER!

On 9/22/06, Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I did get a ticket once when a cop pulled me over for not

signaling a lane change. (Who in the hell does anymore?? - I've given 
up

on
signaling because so few people do it).

But anyway, yes, I'm sure it does vary.

Unfortunately, Washington, where we're planning on moving does require
front
plates.



Casey
Olympia, WA



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Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread Zeitgeist

Yes, the WA natives use the strategy I call the ten minute turn.  First,
they signal their intentions...five miles ahead of their actual target; then
slowly and incrementally reduce their speed, in expectation of their
eventual turn.  It starts like this with signal first triggered:  [45mph
zone]

  - 34 mph @ EDA 4.9miles
  - 32 mph @ EDA 4.3miles
   - 27 mph @ EDA 3.8miles
  - 23 mph @ EDA 2.8miles
  - 15 mph @ EDA 2.0miles
  - 7.5mph @ EDA 1.8miles
  - 4.4mph @ EDA 1.2miles
  - .4 mph @  EDA .8 to 0 miles


On 9/25/06, redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


The native born are real sticklers for using signals.  In seattle  you
can tell the natives because they make sure to signal all turns. Some
are kind enough to begin signaling a few miles before they approach an
intersection or three as well as off ramps.  They are even able to
continue signaling miles after they have made a turn, so that you know
they did signal.



Casey
Olympia, WA
Biodiesel: I drive in a persistent vegetative state
'87 300TD intercooler #22 (218k)
'84 300D (216k)
Gashuffer:
'89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K)
http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/Misc/IMG_0171.JPG


[MBZ] l lubricating linkages ATF

2006-09-26 Thread M.Afzaal.Khan
Hiwhat would be the difference if one used engine oil rather than  ATF 
for lubricating the linkages.

The viscosity?
mak



I hope you used ATF and not WD40 or other stuff...  Use a
little oiler can or even a squeeze bottle...  Rinse all the catsup
out first...  Can't remember when I last saw one of the old oil cans
that went boink when you pressed on the bottom..






Re: [MBZ] correct pronunciation of OS X

2006-09-26 Thread redghost

Ten

The Ex thing makes you sound like a stooge for the evil empire


On Sep 25, 2006, at 8:50 AM, Gary Hurst wrote:


i have always hear it as oh-ess-ex but now i read where it says that
0h-ess-ten is actually correct.  anyone know?
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Re: [MBZ] License plate placement

2006-09-26 Thread Craig McCluskey
On Sun, 24 Sep 2006 22:54:56 -0500 Zoltan Finks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Oh, also, Craig - what keywords did you enter in order to find these
 items for sale? I searched last night for Mercedes 123 wood trim and
 didn't find any of these. I did find an ashtray however (which I need).
 


mercedes (console,wood) (W123,123,240*,300,300D) -w126 -w124
 in
Parts  Accessories


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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D

2006-09-26 Thread M.Afzaal.Khan
Hi  the cruise control  works alright but has a little surging  effect  . 
what could be serviced for this?

mak
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 5:41 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D



Is thee a link to fix these?  MB Model number is 001-545 2132


You can resolder them yourself if you like, most of them seem to
respond to that in my experience.  But it's a tedious job, and
you'd better know how to solder if you want a good chance of success.
Or I can do it.  Or you can get a fixed one with a substantial
warrantee (and price tag) from GDI or Programma tools, though
a quick Google for these doesn't yield any particularly good hits.

http://cathey.dogear.com/JSLcruise.html for DIY,
http://cathey.dogear.com/mamerepairs.html if rubbing the lamp.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Jim your help and the help of the others has been of high value.  I 
went out
today an bought a soder gun.  I have three cores.  If I mess up I will 
send
one to you.  No I have never soldered before. So be checking your mail 
Jim


I hate to rain on your parade, but if you're soldering for the first
time on this, it probably won't work.  Especially with a gun rather than
a good iron with a fine tip.  There are a _lot_ of connections, and 
they're
rather small (though nothing when compared to modern surface-mount.)  
But

if that's OK with you, it's OK with me!

But if you do send me one, I'd prefer it to be one you haven't tried
yourself first, no offense intended.

If you take enough time, and are careful enough, you _can_ probably get
it to work.  But beware of cooking the components to death, or burning
or lifting the traces off the board with excess heat.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 126 420SEL

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Is this unique to the 4.2?  Are they worse at timing chain problems 
than

the 3.0 (M103)?


Of course.  Any V engine is worse because it flexes the chain more than
twice as much an I engine.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Replacing outer window brushes

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
One more question I have is should I  remove this outside chrome strip 
or

just try and slip the brush under it?


The strip has to come off, at least partway.  That may or may not
entail removing the mirror first.  I've managed a time or two to avoid
removing the mirror.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] correct pronunciation of OS X

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey

1) Is this upgrade available for FREE at the Apple website?


No.  10 was never free, though upgrades within series were.

2) Will we wipe out all our files if we do upgrade the OS from 9.0X to 
10.0X


Shouldn't, but bad things do happen from time to time.

3) Should I even attempt this at home, or should I ask my computer 
genius

son to do it for me?


Sons ought to be nice for that sort of thing.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Leaky fuel onto a hot exhaust! 123 design flaw?

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
BTW, I think my 1983 300TD rear end is too low.  Is it a big deal to 
lift it

to specs?  Or does it mean I need to have the rear strut replaced?


So far as I know, ride height problems are _never_ the struts.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] correct pronunciation of OS X

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey

i have always hear it as oh-ess-ex but now i read where it says that
0h-ess-ten is actually correct.  anyone know?


It's ten, because it came after nine, which came after eight,
which came after seven, which came after six, which came after five,
which came after four, which came after three, which came after two,
which came after one, which came after zero-point-something.

There is a detectable pattern there.  Lots call it EX anyway.
Few care one way or the other.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] correct pronunciation of OS X

2006-09-26 Thread redghost


On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:23 PM, andrew strasfogel wrote:

Thanks for bringing this up!  We have a 2003 IMac with v. 9.0X OS and 
want

to upgrate to OS 10.XX   Questions:

1) Is this upgrade available for FREE at the Apple website?


Get the disks for cheap on eBay.  Try for 10.2 for less, or 10.3 for 
better.  Once installed you can hit the software upgrade button and it 
will download and get you up to date




2) Will we wipe out all our files if we do upgrade the OS from 9.0X to 
10.0X

?


You can actually run both 9  10.  9 runs under classic, so your old 
software will still work.




3) Should I even attempt this at home, or should I ask my computer 
genius

son to do it for me?


It is MUCH less hassle than dealing with that garbage from Redmond.  
Insert CD, say yes to questions, sit back with a beer and let it 
install.  Hit software update to get updated, drink more beer.





On 9/25/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


but wikipedia supports ten

Mac OS X From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Jump to: navigation 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#column-one,

search http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X#searchInput
*Mac OS X*  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:TigerDesk.png
A screenshot of Mac OS X v10.4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mac_OS_X_v10.4Tiger
*Website http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Website:* 
www.apple.com/macosx *

Company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_company/
developer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_developer:* Apple
Computerhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Computer
*OS family:* BSD
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution
*Source model:* Closed source 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Closed_source

(
Darwin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darwin_%28operating_system%29

foundation

is open
source http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Open_source) *Latest stable
release:*
10.4.7 / June 27 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/June_27,
2006http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006
*Kernel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_%28computer_science%29
type:* Hybrid
kernel http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_kernel *Default user
interfacehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_interface
:* Graphical user
interfacehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interface
*License http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_license:* Apple
EULAhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA(parts available under
APSL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Public_Source_License) 
*Working

state:* Current

*Mac OS X* (officially pronounced Mac O S Ten)



On 9/25/06, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


On 9/25/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i have always hear it as oh-ess-ex but now i read where it says 
that

0h-ess-ten is actually correct.  anyone know?



I've never heard anyone say ex.  The last version of the Classic
Mac OS was 9.x, so this one's version ten, right?

Do these people also refer to Malcolm the Tenth?

Alex Chamberlain


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Re: [MBZ] OT: 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor.

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey

I need to locate a 15 volt 22 microfarad tantalum capacitor,


Does it have to be tantalum?  While common a few years ago they've
largely disappeared.  I know they were relatively expensive, probably
due to the T, but worked well.  They may have been somewhat toxic to
make though.  Also, they have a disturbing trait of sometimes catching
fire, and they actually burn quite well.  A tantalum cap can be 
installed

reversed and survive for quite some time before burning up, it doesn't
just happen at the factory.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] correct pronunciation of OS X

2006-09-26 Thread redghost
I guess either way works.  Gary just got more iMac goodness to play 
with.  He could have gotten the disk, had beer and installed with no 
file death on the one Rusty now has.


On Sep 25, 2006, at 12:48 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

the original imac g3 i bought cheap on ebay had 9.2 on it.  the i 
decided i
wanted the later ilife and needed os x, so i looked into it and 
decided not
to try it myself.  i told hte guy i bought the original g3 from to 
send me
another one but loaded with os x instead.  so now rusty has the 9.2 
machine

and i'm messing with iLife 05.

as far as i can tell, the answers are

not free to the best of my knowledg
possibly will wipe out files
son is better bet

you can start your study anywhere, i suppose, but i started it here

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=86117

i figure i'll mess with the g3 for a year or so and then move up to a 
g4
imac.  i mostly bought the g3 based on price and immense coolness 
factor and

i'm pretty pleased so for.




On 9/25/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Thanks for bringing this up!  We have a 2003 IMac with v. 9.0X OS and 
want

to upgrate to OS 10.XX   Questions:

1) Is this upgrade available for FREE at the Apple website?

2) Will we wipe out all our files if we do upgrade the OS from 9.0X to
10.0X
?

3) Should I even attempt this at home, or should I ask my computer 
genius

son to do it for me?

On 9/25/06, Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Hi  the cruise control  works alright but has a little surging  effect 
 .

what could be serviced for this?


More description required.  Is it a little jiggly surge like a spastic
foot might cause, especially if irregular, or is it more of a long-scale
hunting effect?  What is the time scale of the surge, in other words?

Jumpy speedo cable can cause it, as can poor vacuum supply.  Or a bad
solder joint in the PID amplifier circuit of the servo system.

-- Jim




[MBZ] Equinox list o' cars

2006-09-26 Thread redghost
Same old list of cars for the people interested in heading out this way 
or needing a better car than what the rusty areas of the nation 
provide.  Delete as needed


http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/212298891.html  -- on crack

http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/car/212228615.html  -- Ed Booher 
Project


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/211965357.html  -- 83 SD $2500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/211862341.html  -- 79 bug catcher 
$1500


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/211600480.html  -- 89 TE $2500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/211539126.html  --  73 116 $1200

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/211459029.html  -- $3k 
Frankenheap?


http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/211451445.html  -- 86 300e $1800

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/211432761.html  -- Boohermobile

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/car/211427941.html   - Kaleb Truck?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/211360318.html  --  450sl $5k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/211344223.html  -- idiot

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/211305989.html  --Ed B.  67 230

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/211185119.html  - rare w114 $800

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/21102.html  -- KALEB Price SE

http://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/car/210997099.html  -- Zoltan's SD

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210977062.html  -- 88 sec $2800

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210934637.html  -- 92 SL $8900

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/210894883.html  -- 79 sl $5k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210784745.html  --D. Snook Esq

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210637109.html  --  Booher SE

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210596335.html  --  offer $500

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210573580.html  -- Free Booher Car

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/210385648.html  --  68 w114 $875

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/210154316.html  -- another Ed B 
car


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210142725.html  -- 87 TD $10k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/210118558.html  -- overprice 300D

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210046216.html - fixed rod bender 
$10k


http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/209990917.html  -- 77 Ghetto D $2k

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/209990245.html  -- 83 Dt $2200

That is it folks!  all the interesting or inexpensive iron you can find 
on CL this week.  Check back for October finds.  Or not.





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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D

2006-09-26 Thread M.Afzaal.Khan
Its a little surge 0f about 4 Km or so seems like stepped on the pedal 
gently for a few seconds. the speed is held overall and does not overshoot. 
seems  I don't have the Speedo cable on my 126 300Se/90. its electronic one

mak
- Original Message - 


Hi  the cruise control  works alright but has a little surging  effect
 .
what could be serviced for this?


More description required.  Is it a little jiggly surge like a spastic
foot might cause, especially if irregular, or is it more of a long-scale
hunting effect?  What is the time scale of the surge, in other words?

Jumpy speedo cable can cause it, as can poor vacuum supply.  Or a bad
solder joint in the PID amplifier circuit of the servo system.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] correct pronunciation of OS X

2006-09-26 Thread redghost
It lost the OS on the drive.  Time to ship it to me.  Of course you 
will have to cover shipping fee.


Or,  turn it over, open it up and get a new 60-180meg drive in there 
and re install the OS.


On Sep 25, 2006, at 2:15 PM, Gary Hurst wrote:

well, the mac has already blown up.  just flashed a question mark 
instead of

booting.

this is most distressing


On 9/25/06, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Doesn't matter, we use 'em interchangably.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D

2006-09-26 Thread Barry Stark
Mak -
I seem to remember folks saying that dry ball joints in the throttle linkage
could cause this. I pop them off and lube them with ATF using a Q-tip. I
have a plastic 35mm film container with some ATF and a Q-tip always at the
ready. I find it very handy for all kinds of lube jobs.

Barry


 Hi  the cruise control  works alright but has a little surging  effect  .
 what could be serviced for this?
 mak






Re: [MBZ] olde macs

2006-09-26 Thread redghost

Roger,

hit OWC and get a processor upgrade for $200 and maybe one of those 
snazzy ATI Radeon 9800 cards too



On Sep 25, 2006, at 7:44 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I swore I would keep it forever, as it?s the last dual-boot mac. 
(Well,

except for the new intel duo ones with Bootcamp)

The last dual-boot Mac is later than mine. When Firewire 800 was 
introduced,
Classic was no more. I've been looking into this because not only is 
867mhz a
bit slow for X-Plane, a flight simulator, but my box's video card is 
not fast

enough to render the scenery fast enough.

I've been watching Craigslist locally for one of these and the used 
prices

seem to hovering around $800.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] olde macs

2006-09-26 Thread redghost
I sold a Pippin to a guy in japan.  Made a mint on that, as it was 
complete in the box with a few games.  think I got $780 for a $25 
investment.  Some days I wish I had kept it


On Sep 25, 2006, at 8:03 PM, LT Don wrote:

I've sold some Apple total trash on EBay to guys in Japan for big 
bucks.

Don't know why but Japan is lusting after old Apple stuff. An Apple II+
brought almost $300 plus shipping -- I took it out of someone's trash.

I'd think an early Mac would bring $500 and a  well, something 
really

desirable.

Best I can tell, they (the Japs) are gutting the Apple motherboards for
music synthesizers or something like that. Must be a chip (not to be
confused with as Richmond area Chip) thing.

The only thing on EBay that brought me more profit than Apple II was 
Drum
and Bugle Corps record albums -- an easy $200 for stuff found at 
GoodWill

for $1. Times five or so!

D.


On 9/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I swore I would keep it forever, as it?s the last dual-boot mac. 
(Well,

except for the new intel duo ones with Bootcamp)

The last dual-boot Mac is later than mine. When Firewire 800 was
introduced,
Classic was no more. I've been looking into this because not only is
867mhz a
bit slow for X-Plane, a flight simulator, but my box's video card is 
not

fast
enough to render the scenery fast enough.

I've been watching Craigslist locally for one of these and the used 
prices

seem to hovering around $800.

RLE
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Re: [MBZ] Tattle tale

2006-09-26 Thread redghost
I call the troopers to get them to go after the trucks dumping tin and 
chunks of stuff on me as they pass me.  Never have had the pleasure of 
seeing one of them get pulled over.  Maybe if it killed me?


On Sep 25, 2006, at 8:57 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Is there also a law requiring truck operators to list a phone number
to report erratic driving?

A law? No. But lots of commercial vehicles have those 800 numbers 
posted for

that purpose.

In Washington a 911 call will get a trooper (if available) on the 
offender's

case. I wouldn't hesitate.

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Re: [MBZ] Leaky fuel onto a hot exhaust! 123 design flaw?

2006-09-26 Thread Barry Stark
Andrew -
Jim's right. Do the rear wheels have a lot of negative camber? Could be sub
frame mounts.

Barry


  BTW, I think my 1983 300TD rear end is too low.  Is it a big deal to
  lift it
  to specs?  Or does it mean I need to have the rear strut replaced?

 So far as I know, ride height problems are _never_ the struts.

 -- Jim





Re: [MBZ] Leaking steering gear box, 126

2006-09-26 Thread Barry Stark
Mak -
Yep, just like new. When I was a MBCA member we would occasionally have a
local M/B field service tech rep come by for a QA session. I once asked
about slop in M/B boxes and what needs to be replaced. The fellow said that
unless the box had been adjusted too tightly they would never wear out, the
bearings just get a little slop and need to be re-adjusted. To properly
adjust the bearings you need a few very pricey special tools to hold the
assemblies as you perform the running torques required for proper
adjustment. It's all in the manual. the one thing that he said that everyone
overlooks to replace is the thrust washer and its' snap ring that is under
the head of the adjusting screw inside the pitman shaft that sets the gear
mesh between the teeth on the pitman shaft and the teeth on the working
piston.

Barry




 Did the slop get removed after the rebuild ? my 126 has about 25
 mm of slop
 but smooth operation and no leaks.
 mak






Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 10, Issue 100

2006-09-26 Thread Dennis Perkins

Jim,

How is this chrome strip held on.  I don't want to bend it if you have to go 
from the inside.


Dennis Perkins
84 300SD


One more question I have is should I  remove this outside chrome strip

or
just try and slip the brush under it?


The strip has to come off, at least partway.  That may or may not
entail removing the mirror first.  I've managed a time or two to avoid
removing the mirror.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Equinox list o' cars

2006-09-26 Thread kevin kraly

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210596335.html  --
offer $500

Now that one's in my price range.  For $500, I'd be awefully tempted.

Kevin, Benzless in Hillsboro Oregon



Re: [MBZ] flashing

2006-09-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen

Yeah but only if you are warning others about a speed trap:-)

- Original Message - 
From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] flashing



Here (MD/DC) it's illegal to flash one's high beams.

On 9/25/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Walton sez;

BT Wrong. Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield.
Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.

BT, not exactly

During DAYLIGHT hours, a flash means OK to move over. At NIGHT, lights 
off

momentarily means the same thing.

RLE


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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

2006-09-26 Thread Hendrik Riessen

No that's optional. Some of the big companies do but most don't.
I could just imagine all the young drivers on their mobile phones ringing up 
complaining that a truck pushed them out of the way because they where 
wy too busy talking to their friends on the phone to notice the truckie 
indicating his/her intention to change lanes.


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Is there also a law requiring truck operators to list a phone number
to report erratic driving?





Re: [MBZ] Knecht oil filters

2006-09-26 Thread ts

Very good, no issues good product.
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they're fine - used them w/o issue.

On 9/25/06, Glenn M. Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Whaddya' ll think of Knecht oil filters for our MB diesels?
TIA
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Re: [MBZ] correct pronunciation of OS X

2006-09-26 Thread ts
Bob said:  Am I the only one here who has no earthly idea what all this is 
about?


No you are notYeah Bob, bashing molecules and spinning steam turbines 
that I understand.  Some of this virtual stuffoa


Regards Tom
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Am I the only one here who has no earthly idea what all this is about?
I guess I just stick to making electricity by bashing molecules together.

Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 159K
'87 Acura Legend  177K
Litchfield Park, AZ


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On 9/25/06, andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Thanks for bringing this up!  We have a 2003 IMac with v. 9.0X OS and
want
to upgrate to OS 10.XX   Questions:

1) Is this upgrade available for FREE at the Apple website?

2) Will we wipe out all our files if we do upgrade the OS from 9.0X to
10.0X
?

3) Should I even attempt this at home, or should I ask my computer 
genius

son to do it for me?



I would recommend 4) save yourself the heartache and just buy a new
Mac Mini (with OS X preinstalled, of course).  Getting OS X running on
a G3 is usually not a problem, but it will be painfully slow.  (Your
mileage may vary, of course.  I use a Sawtooth [2nd-gen G4] maxed out
with a 1.2 GHz accelerator, Radeon 8500 video, and 1.5 Gb of RAM and I
still feel like Tiger is sluggish, but many are happy with it.)

Alex Chamberlain
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'93 Isuzu Trooper

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Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Oh yea,,,,,,

2006-09-26 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel

At 3:31 PM -0500 9/21/06, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

If anybody has any great tech articles that can put into a web page
format ready to upload to the servers, that would be appreciated also.
Proper credit will be given.


Here's a classic of mine from 1999.

-MMM-

-

Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 18:50:21 -0500
From: M. Mitchell Marmel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [MBLIST] Rommel: The Horn Blows At Midnight.  And Noon.  And 10:45 AM.
 And...
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

(Extra Credit Trivia Quiz: Name the radio comedian to whom the title 
of this epistle refers)


Longtime students of the M. Mitchell Marmel School of Improvisational 
Mercedes Repair will recall that Rommel has been operating since the 
spring with a horn button hoseclamped to the turn signal stalk, as 
well as said stalk being somewhat wonky in the wiper control 
department.  Things came to a head last night, when the wipers, 
already limited to high speed only, began cutting out entirely when I 
signalled for a right turn.


Time for me to apply the replacement stalk, steering wheel and horn 
contacts I got from a late, lamented '70 250C at Lou's U-Pull-It.


This morning dawned clear and chilly, so, after the cable guy had 
come and gone (I have finally broken down and gotten cable in my 
bedroom), I commenced working:


1) Remove screws holding left kick panel in place.

2) Remove bungee cord holding left kick panel in place.  (The phrase 
jerry rigged was coined with Rommel in mind.)


3) Disconnect old stalk plug.  Before pulling, check replacement 
stalk by plugging in.  Huzzah!  It works!


4) Undo center nut in steering wheel.

5) Lose nut and socket in steering wheel bowl.

5a) Curse Daimler-Benz engineers.

6) Pull steering wheel with gentle tug.

7) Pull steering wheel with firm tug.

8) Give big honking yank.  Steering wheel pops free.

9) See 5a)

10) Examine horn slip rings and contacts.  Yick.  The shift column 
has, true to its nature, shifted a bit and the tip is digging into 
the outer ring.  Brass shavings everywhere.


11) See 5a)

12) Unscrew stalk, attempt to pull out.  Fumble with plug until I get 
it to pass through the steering column cover.


13) See 5a)

14) Install replacement horn contacts.

15) Try to thread replacement stalk cable through column cover.  Plug 
doesn't want to get with the program.


16) See 5a)

17) Get plug threaded, stalk screwed in and horn contact wires connected.

18) Go to plug stalk cable in.

19) Discover that cable is three inches too short to reach the socket.

20) See 5a), grand slam redoubled in spades.  Vow to make hefty 
contribution to the Track Down 114/115 Engineers and Slap Them 
Silly fund.  Consider that, given some of the design features of the 
114/115, this may be redundant, as the engineers were obviously more 
than adequately silly.


21) Unbolt socket bracket.

22) Discover that socket slides into bracket.

23) See 5a)

24) Detach socket, connect to plug.

25) Carefully positioning replacement steering wheel, place on splines.

26) Give gentle push.

27) Give strong shove.

28) Whack the hub with a large socket and 1/2 extender.

29) See 5a)

30) Using mystic finger contortions, retrieve socket and nut from 
original steering wheel.


31) Bolt steering wheel down firmly.

32) Turn on ignition key.

33) Horn sounds continuously.

34) Turn off ignition key.

35) See 5a)

36) Unbolt steering wheel from hub to see if ring is the problem.

37) Ring ain't the problem.

38) Rebolt steering wheel to hub, unbolt hub nut and gently yank at 
steering wheel.


39) See 8) and 5a).

40) Glare hatefully at the tip of the shift lever column.  Wonder if 
Phil is finished with Iltis yet.


41) Spend fifteen minutes or so fiddling with bits of wood, plastic 
and so forth to make an insulating cap for the shaft.


42) Finally strike on a bit of plastic pipe left over from an 80's 
vintage Erector set.


43) Slice a 2.5 mm chunk off.

44) Eureka!  It fits.

45) Reinstall steering wheel as above.

46) Lose socket in bowl again.

47) See 5a)

48) Unbolt wheel from hub; retrieve socket.

49) Reassembly of wheel and kick panel in reverse of above.

50) Turn on ignition switch.  Everything works flawlessly.  Damn, I'm good.

And so, Rommel has a working horn ring, uncracked steering wheel, 
fully working wipers and a good turn stalk.


A good morning's work, says I.

-MMM-
'68 Mercedes 220D Rommel http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/220d681.htm
'67 Mercedes 250S Entchen http://www.dhc.net/~pmhack/mercedes/250s671.htm
'71 Mercedes 250/8 Iltis 
http://www.pages.drexel.edu/grad/marmelmm/250/250.htm

WdHel: Zur Hoelle, es laeuft!
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MBCNA Virtual Non-Section




Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

2006-09-26 Thread ts
What is the rule when a you are in a one lane construction zone which is 10 
miles long you are doing 60 mph in a  55  construction zone and truckers 
are two inches from your bumper?  What course of action should I take?


What is the rule when trucks are doing 90mph in a 65 zone hauling 100,000 
lbs?  Is professional OSHA type safety a concern?  Just a thought, cause 
traveling 50K miles a year on the Northeast highways I see allot of that.


What is the rule when you get hit with apee bomb because my 66 hp 240d 
does not get over quick enough or cannot get over due to traffic in the 
right lane or heavy traffic?


Regards Tom Scordato
19 79 240D 97K miles


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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes



Is there also a law requiring truck operators to list a phone number
to report erratic driving?

On 9/25/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Over here it is the law that every truck has two large signs on the back
that states to give way to turning heavy vehicles. This is mainly related 
to

when a truck has to turn from the outside lane around a corner but it is
also related to changing lanes.
Basically if a truck says it has to change lanes you get out of it's way.
I think what Robert is trying to say is, using the indicator is politely
asking people to make room for you, pushing into their lane is telling 
them

to get the hell out of the way because I have to be where you are. Some
drivers need to be reminded that they are not the only person on the road
and there is a code of conduct (enforced by laws) to be followed. If you
decide not to follow this code you will have to face the consequences of
your action.

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Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes



 I had to read this post several   times because I couldn't believe my
 eyes.
 Maybe you would care to post, in it's entirety, the state (which 
 state?)

 traffic law that allows a driver to move over into another vehicle just
 because he
 signalled an intention. You don't say anything about speed 
 differentials.


 RLE
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[MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D

2006-09-26 Thread ts
Jim  I bought a good iron tip not a gun.  I took one look at that gun and 
said no way.  I will send you the one from my 240D with a $ check.  I will 
try one on my own from my 1977 300D both cores have the same part number. 
The 240D is a virgin and has not been soldered by me. That I will send to 
you


Regards Tom
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D



Jim your help and the help of the others has been of high value.  I
went out
today an bought a soder gun.  I have three cores.  If I mess up I will
send
one to you.  No I have never soldered before. So be checking your mail
Jim


I hate to rain on your parade, but if you're soldering for the first
time on this, it probably won't work.  Especially with a gun rather than
a good iron with a fine tip.  There are a _lot_ of connections, and
they're
rather small (though nothing when compared to modern surface-mount.)
But
if that's OK with you, it's OK with me!

But if you do send me one, I'd prefer it to be one you haven't tried
yourself first, no offense intended.

If you take enough time, and are careful enough, you _can_ probably get
it to work.  But beware of cooking the components to death, or burning
or lifting the traces off the board with excess heat.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread LarryT

you wrote:Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield.

Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.


Maybe you're referring to driving in Europe?

My 40 years experience driving in USA (never drove in Europe) is flashing 
headlights *do* indicate an intention to yield.  Such as flashing high beams 
when a 18 wheeler is passing so they'll know when to pull in ahead of you - 
or flashing high beams to let another drive know it;s ok to pull out, etc. 
Never have seen anyone turn headlights on/off to indicate anything.


All my driving has been east of Mississippi - maybe you're on the left 
coast?


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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble



BT Wrong.

Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield.
Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.

I take it you have never driven in Europe - or have done so with
ignorance. Might want to touch up on that training you spoke about.

-Dave Walton


On 9/25/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I take it you have never operated a heavy vehicle in traffic, I make a 
point
of giving commercial drivers a fair go on the roads because they put up 
with

the penisheads all day.
It also doesn't hurt to flash your high beams to let the truck driver 
know

you have seen his/her intention to change lanes and you will not get in
his/her way.
Anyway if the Government insists on handing out licenses to operate road
missiles in breakfast cereal boxes you have to expect bad drivers. That 
is

why the autobahn system works, good roads combined with good
trainingooh and of course quality machines able to operate at 
high

speeds.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 5:38 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/s much trouble


 If you really want to screw up getting to where you are going - get in
 an accident. Nice way to ruin your day.

 People die because of tricks like that. And it may not be the other 
 guy.


 -Dave Walton


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Re: [MBZ] W124 - 602.962 300D 2.5T Timing Chain Test

2006-09-26 Thread LarryT

Hi Peter,
You wroteTiming marks on on top on that engine, are a bit harder to line 
up

properly.  Line them up and read crank pulley.

That's the opposite of what I've done on my 240D - I used to line up the 
crank pulley - then read the cam -

I'll trust your experience though --
Thx -
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Yup.  Change at 5 or six degrees, though, don't wait til 8.  More
sensitive to timing changes than the 617.

Timing marks on on top on that engine, and a bit harder to line up
properly.  Line them up and read crank pulley.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] W124 - 602.962 300D 2.5T Timing Chain Test

2006-09-26 Thread OK Don

The cams that I've worked with don't have degrees marked - just where
they are supposed to  line up. So - line up the marks on the cam, and
read the degrees on the crank pulley/vibration damper - no guessing
whether it's off 5 or 10 degrees - read the numbers.



That's the opposite of what I've done on my 240D - I used to line up the
crank pulley - then read the cam -
I'll trust your experience though --
Thx -
Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)


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Re: [MBZ] Knecht oil filters

2006-09-26 Thread Rusty
I think that this has been hashed over many times. But, I'll say it
again. Since about 1971 or 1972 when the Mann+Hummel factory burned to
the ground and Mercedes was back ordering filters to MB dealers
worldwide, Knecht, Hengst  Mahle were added to Mercedes list of genuine
filter manufacturers. These 4 companies continue to this day to be the
original manufacturers for Mercedes. What else need be said? Oh, I know.
Bosch NEVER has been an OE supplier to Mercedes for air or oil filters,
NEVER. 

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Subject: [MBZ] Knecht oil filters

Whaddya' ll think of Knecht oil filters for our MB diesels?
TIA
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Rochester, NY
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Re: [MBZ] 126 420SEL

2006-09-26 Thread Donald Snook
Kaleb wrote: 

 

Watch out for timing chain problems.  If it has around 130K and has not


been done, it needs to be done.  If it rattles for a couple of seconds 

when started cold, it is about to break.  Can also break the slide rails


and cause a chunk to jam in the chain causing it to jump.  Will also 

need valve seals like the 6 cylinder.  Bottom end is about bullet proof 

like the diesels.  If its got 150k or more, changing the injectors will 

give you a smoother engine and better mileage.  

 

Well having heard these issues, I will probably just keep mine. The car
I was looking at has 153,000.  As it is, I have a car that is perfect
mechanically, and I don't really want to get into one that is going to
cost me $1000 in repairs.  I wish I had time to tackle one of these
chains, but I don't.  Is this the same problem with the 560?  

 

Recently, I have been lusting after a 560SEC.  Now, that is a special
car, so I suppose I might be willing to buy one and put $1000 into it.
However, I think the SEC's are going for exorbitant prices. 

 

 

Donald H. Snook

1990 300SEL 131K 



Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
Jim  I bought a good iron tip not a gun.  I took one look at that gun 
and

said no way.


You also need some good solder, and may find that some sort of solder
removal device (I use a Solda-pullit) to remove excess will come in 
handy.

And do not overlook the paint stripper step.  Really.

Go slowly, be careful, don't apply too much heat for too long, and be
sure to always grasp the iron by the not-so-hot end.  Use a damp cotton
rag to clean the tip occasionally.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] [Banned] Oh yea,,,,,,

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey

4) Undo center nut in steering wheel.

5) Lose nut and socket in steering wheel bowl.

5a) Curse Daimler-Benz engineers.

6) Pull steering wheel with gentle tug.

7) Pull steering wheel with firm tug.

8) Give big honking yank.  Steering wheel pops free.

9) See 5a)


The secret here, and bashing yourself in the face at least once
seems to really drive home the point, is not to remove the nut
all the way until the wheel's loose.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 10, Issue 100

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
How is this chrome strip held on.  I don't want to bend it if you have 
to go

from the inside.


Those nasty bitey metal clips chew into three different things all at
once: the lip of the door, the window belt, and the exterior aluminum
strip.  They pry straight up.  Oh so carefully!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Cruise Control Amp 1979 240D

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey

Its a little surge 0f about 4 Km or so seems like stepped on the pedal
gently for a few seconds. the speed is held overall and does not 
overshoot.
seems  I don't have the Speedo cable on my 126 300Se/90. its 
electronic one


On a 126 you're talking about the servomotor unit.  If lubing the 
linkage
doesn't do it it's probably the amplifier needing resoldering.  
Sometimes
the feedback potentiometer track inside the servomotor wears out, but 
that

results in difficulties with one particular speed.  If setting a
significantly different speed results in different behavior that's a
good clue there.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Equinox list o' cars

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/211360318.html  --  450sl $5k


Must have the even rarer alloy wheels with hubcaps?  And what
happened to the fog lights?  The interior is obviously Bamboo,
more of an orange than tan by any reasonable description.  I
wonder what sins are underneath those sheep socks?  And a
76 SL doesn't have power mirrors.


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/211344223.html  -- idiot


Yeah, single-tank VO systems should _stay_ in LA.  Or other
warm places.


http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/car/211185119.html  - rare w114 $800


A particularly rare 114 that has a 4-cylinder.  Or would that
be a 115, hmmm?


http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/car/210894883.html  -- 79 sl $5k


No word about the dreaded servo heater.  Hmm.


http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210046216.html - fixed rod bender
$10k


If you call putting in a 300 SDL motor 'fixing' a 350.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] 126 420SEL

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey

chains, but I don't.  Is this the same problem with the 560?


Absolutely.


Recently, I have been lusting after a 560SEC.  Now, that is a special
car, so I suppose I might be willing to buy one and put $1000 into it.
However, I think the SEC's are going for exorbitant prices.


Every one I've ever seen has.  And they have the usual coupe part$
$upply problem$, plus a few extra achey-breakey parts like the seat
belt extenders.

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] l lubricating linkages ATF

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

It would cause it to collect dirt and cause them to stick.

M.Afzaal.Khan wrote:

Hiwhat would be the difference if one used engine oil rather than  ATF 
for lubricating the linkages.

The viscosity?
mak




I hope you used ATF and not WD40 or other stuff...  Use a
little oiler can or even a squeeze bottle...  Rinse all the catsup
out first...  Can't remember when I last saw one of the old oil cans
that went boink when you pressed on the bottom..





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Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Zoltan Finks

You're not kidding! This point was brought to my attention big time when we
drove a new Chevy Cavalier. They make it so sporty and appealing to the
kids in the styling. The rear deck is very hard to see over. And you're
right, this trend is pretty big nowadays. It would be nice in that it gives
you a bit of a shielded feeling from the driver behind you, but it is
obvioiusly bad in the area of the visual field of the driver.

I really enjoy checking my blind spot in my W123. It's so effortless.

Brian
83 240D

Hendrik signed off thus:

Hendrik
who thinks cars without good vision out the back are dumb (that is just
about every car these days)


Re: [MBZ] l lubricating linkages ATF

2006-09-26 Thread Christopher McCann
anyone ever use Gleitungspaste on them? It's the MB lubricant for  sunroof 
rails designed not to hold/attract dirt...might not take the  heat well 
though...would probably melt and run out since it's like a  vasoline.
  
  Chris
  
  

Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  It would cause it to collect 
dirt and cause them to stick.

M.Afzaal.Khan wrote:

 Hiwhat would be the difference if one used engine oil rather than  ATF 
 for lubricating the linkages.
 The viscosity?
 mak
 
 
 
I hope you used ATF and not WD40 or other stuff...  Use a
little oiler can or even a squeeze bottle...  Rinse all the catsup
out first...  Can't remember when I last saw one of the old oil cans
that went boink when you pressed on the bottom..


 
 
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OK, that makes sense - yous's  Peter's suggestion is much better than the 
way I used to do it.
I used to have to guesstimate the amount the stretch was - this will be much 
easier -

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 The cams that I've worked with don't have degrees marked - just where
 they are supposed to  line up. So - line up the marks on the cam, and
 read the degrees on the crank pulley/vibration damper - no guessing
 whether it's off 5 or 10 degrees - read the numbers.


 That's the opposite of what I've done on my 240D - I used to line up the
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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

What is a pee bomb?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is the rule when a you are in a one lane construction zone which is 10 
miles long you are doing 60 mph in a  55  construction zone and truckers 
are two inches from your bumper?  What course of action should I take?


What is the rule when trucks are doing 90mph in a 65 zone hauling 100,000 
lbs?  Is professional OSHA type safety a concern?  Just a thought, cause 
traveling 50K miles a year on the Northeast highways I see allot of that.


What is the rule when you get hit with apee bomb because my 66 hp 240d 
does not get over quick enough or cannot get over due to traffic in the 
right lane or heavy traffic?


Regards Tom Scordato
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Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Jim Cathey
You're not kidding! This point was brought to my attention big time 
when we
drove a new Chevy Cavalier. They make it so sporty and appealing to 
the

kids in the styling. The rear deck is very hard to see over. And you're
right, this trend is pretty big nowadays.


I hate the 'bunker mentality'.  Gunslits for windows, car beltlines
up around your neck.  Bleah.  Even most of the convertibles make me
think more big sunroof rather than open car, the ass end raises
up so high.

Give me Falcons, Pacers, and good ol' 107 SL's!

-- Jim




Re: [MBZ] Lane change signals/soooo much trouble

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Flashing headlights means you want to pass.  Headlights off and on mean 
you are going to yield, as in, its safe for whoever to pull back into 
your lane.


LarryT wrote:


you wrote:Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield.


Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.



Maybe you're referring to driving in Europe?

My 40 years experience driving in USA (never drove in Europe) is flashing 
headlights *do* indicate an intention to yield.  Such as flashing high beams 
when a 18 wheeler is passing so they'll know when to pull in ahead of you - 
or flashing high beams to let another drive know it;s ok to pull out, etc. 
Never have seen anyone turn headlights on/off to indicate anything.


All my driving has been east of Mississippi - maybe you're on the left 
coast?


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BT Wrong.

Flashing high beams signals the intention NOT to yield.
Turning off lights momentarily signals that you DO intend to yield.

I take it you have never driven in Europe - or have done so with
ignorance. Might want to touch up on that training you spoke about.

-Dave Walton


On 9/25/06, Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I take it you have never operated a heavy vehicle in traffic, I make a 
point
of giving commercial drivers a fair go on the roads because they put up 
with

the penisheads all day.
It also doesn't hurt to flash your high beams to let the truck driver 
know

you have seen his/her intention to change lanes and you will not get in
his/her way.
Anyway if the Government insists on handing out licenses to operate road
missiles in breakfast cereal boxes you have to expect bad drivers. That 
is

why the autobahn system works, good roads combined with good
trainingooh and of course quality machines able to operate at 
high

speeds.

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If you really want to screw up getting to where you are going - get in
an accident. Nice way to ruin your day.

People die because of tricks like that. And it may not be the other 
guy.


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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

2006-09-26 Thread Levi Smith

I would bet that would be a juice bottle that has been recycled as it
were.

While driving and one does not want to stop, the juice that has been
consumed will come back out and go back in the bottle.  When it is tossed
out the window it would become a bomb...

Levi (:

On 9/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What is a pee bomb?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is the rule when a you are in a one lane construction zone which is
10
 miles long you are doing 60 mph in a  55  construction zone and
truckers
 are two inches from your bumper?  What course of action should I take?

 What is the rule when trucks are doing 90mph in a 65 zone hauling
100,000
 lbs?  Is professional OSHA type safety a concern?  Just a thought,
cause
 traveling 50K miles a year on the Northeast highways I see allot of
that.

 What is the rule when you get hit with apee bomb because my 66 hp 240d
 does not get over quick enough or cannot get over due to traffic in the
 right lane or heavy traffic?

 Regards Tom Scordato
 19 79 240D 97K miles


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Re: [MBZ] 126 420SEL

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
the 5.6 will have the same issues except for some reason they are not 
quite at hard of cams and timing chains.


Donald Snook wrote:

Kaleb wrote: 

 


Watch out for timing chain problems.  If it has around 130K and has not


been done, it needs to be done.  If it rattles for a couple of seconds 


when started cold, it is about to break.  Can also break the slide rails


and cause a chunk to jam in the chain causing it to jump.  Will also 

need valve seals like the 6 cylinder.  Bottom end is about bullet proof 

like the diesels.  If its got 150k or more, changing the injectors will 

give you a smoother engine and better mileage.  

 


Well having heard these issues, I will probably just keep mine. The car
I was looking at has 153,000.  As it is, I have a car that is perfect
mechanically, and I don't really want to get into one that is going to
cost me $1000 in repairs.  I wish I had time to tackle one of these
chains, but I don't.  Is this the same problem with the 560?  

 


Recently, I have been lusting after a 560SEC.  Now, that is a special
car, so I suppose I might be willing to buy one and put $1000 into it.
However, I think the SEC's are going for exorbitant prices. 

 

 


Donald H. Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes

2006-09-26 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin

ohhh

Levi Smith wrote:


I would bet that would be a juice bottle that has been recycled as it
were.

While driving and one does not want to stop, the juice that has been
consumed will come back out and go back in the bottle.  When it is tossed
out the window it would become a bomb...

Levi (:

On 9/26/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


What is a pee bomb?




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Re: [MBZ] Equinox list o' cars

2006-09-26 Thread Curt Raymond

Me too, and just when I'm looking for a 3rd car...
Wish it was on this coast.

-Curt

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http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/car/210596335.html  --
offer $500

Now that one's in my price range.  For $500, I'd be awefully tempted.

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Talked to Rusty this morning (yay Rusty!) and my injector lines are on the way 
but it'll be a couple days.
Anyway I really should have a 3rd car for these just in case times. I'm 
thinking something larger than the 190D for those rare occasions where friends 
are along. Oh and its got to be cheap.
I've found a couple:
http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/211981830.html - '84 300SD, needs 
glowplugs, is this a big deal on this car? I know it'd be not much fun on my 
190D and wasn't all that hard on my 240D or '81 300TD...

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/211888940.html - '81 240D, heh a longshot, 
I may call and lowball it to $400 or so, he's posted it a million times.

http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/car/211876224.html - '81 300SD, is this an 
'81? I thought the 126 started in '82... Such a short description, I shudder...


http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/211125851.html - '84 230s, gasser but its 
cheap and manual shift. Any opinions?

http://boston.craigslist.org/gbs/car/212203798.html - Diesel Rabbit, do I want 
a basket case even if I can get it cheap?

http://boston.craigslist.org/nos/car/210837112.html - $1500 seems high for an 
'81 Rabbit with over 250k

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Re: [MBZ] Changing lanes and Mirrors

2006-09-26 Thread Chuck Landenberger

On a related topic..

Everyone knows how to adjust outside rear view mirrors, of course.

Sit in driver's seat, lean to the left with head almost touching  
window, now adjust left mirror so you barely see the side of your  
car...  For the right, lean right and do same adjustment..   You will  
see a couple of feet more to each side of your car, thus reducing the  
blind spot!!!  The inside rear view mirror takes care of what's  
immediately behind you..


That's it

Take care,

Chuck
Phoenix, AZ




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