Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another...
Last I knew he didn't have a diff for a 2.2l 190D 5spd... Fred keeps reminding me of his car in Lake George, NY. Now that I don't have a pickup big enough to haul a car I'd need to drive out, remove the diff and haul it back. Then I'd have yet another good used diff. If it didn't work out I guess I could build a retaining wall or something. -Curt Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 21:35:36 -0500 From: OK Don okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 437bc980907081935s616e21e7ve913f3e93279b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Hopw about buying another rear diif from Kaleb? Last I knew, he had a nice collection, but he might have done something with them since then. On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: Still trying to find somebody who is up to rebuilding the rear diff on my 190D figured I'd take it to a place nearby that said they might be able to. -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/50d36798/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Window molding?
Anybody ever replaced the rubber seal on the outside of the window on a 123 before? The ones on my 240D are all cracked and split. I'd rubbed some flowable silicone into one in the past but its not cutting it anymore. I couldn't find it on Rusty's site, I did find door window felt on eBay which seems like its actually both sides. If its easy to remove I may see if Fred and Luke want to do breakfast again and go check on the 240D in the junkyard and see if its seals are worth playing with... -Curt -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/2158bf48/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT for motorcycle guys: cheap '83 Honda Nighthawk CB650 questions
While not as nice as a Shoei my Zeus was something like $75 on sale... -Curt Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 17:53:56 -0700 (PDT) From: LWB250 lwb...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for motorcycle guys: cheap '83 Honda Nighthawk CB650 questions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 424060.47551...@web65706.mail.ac4.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii My instructors were a husband and wife who are very active cyclists in the local GoldWing club. What I found interesting was that they were very non-committal regarding motorcycle brands. I spent part of our lunch hour one of the days talking with the husband about my plans regarding the size and type of bike I was considering, and his advice was very unbiased and helpful. I was looking at starting out with something around 750cc and then moving up - he encouraged me to go ahead and start out with a larger bike, and assured me that it would be no problem for me. while I have a closet full of Harley-Davidson gear courtesy of the wife (she worked for Harley when we lived in Wisconsin) I saw one of the Joe ROcket mesh jackets when I was in my class in Florida. I happened across a marked down jacket at the local Yamaha dealer a few weeks later and snapped it up - a really great piece of gear for warm weather riding with the Kevlar pads and mesh. I didn't have the budget for one of the full face opening helmets when I bought my current full face helmet, but I will definitely get one down the road when I can afford it. Dan -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/12371c5b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
Remove the rear seat, find the vacuum lines that go into the trunk and mitivac each one until the lock unlocks. Onee locks and one unlocks. On Jul 9, 2009 9:34am, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1ce562cb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
I thought the key lock overrides the vacuum lock. I will try starting the car. the vacuum locks work, so if vacuum overrides air, that will unlock the trunk, but I am skeptical. I know on the 107, the key overrides vacuum At 08:40 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Remove the rear seat, find the vacuum lines that go into the trunk and mitivac each one until the lock unlocks. Onee locks and one unlocks. On Jul 9, 2009 9:34am, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1ce562cb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
Is the key slot vertical or horizontal? Vertical is the vacuum/air control position and horizontal is the key locked position. Luther Loren Faeth wrote: I thought the key lock overrides the vacuum lock. I will try starting the car. the vacuum locks work, so if vacuum overrides air, that will unlock the trunk, but I am skeptical. I know on the 107, the key overrides vacuum -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
Yes-on my 240D (and my previous one) the key override vacuum-must be in lock or latch. Squirrel residue from storage? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question I thought the key lock overrides the vacuum lock. I will try starting the car. the vacuum locks work, so if vacuum overrides air, that will unlock the trunk, but I am skeptical. I know on the 107, the key overrides vacuum At 08:40 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Remove the rear seat, find the vacuum lines that go into the trunk and mitivac each one until the lock unlocks. Onee locks and one unlocks. On Jul 9, 2009 9:34am, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1 ce562cb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
the key slot is vertical. Are you sure about key/vacuum positions? I always found it was opposite. Vertical is locked with key and horiz is open/vacuum locked. At 09:25 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Is the key slot vertical or horizontal? Vertical is the vacuum/air control position and horizontal is the key locked position. Luther Loren Faeth wrote: I thought the key lock overrides the vacuum lock. I will try starting the car. the vacuum locks work, so if vacuum overrides air, that will unlock the trunk, but I am skeptical. I know on the 107, the key overrides vacuum -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Changing Front AT seal on 87' 420 SEL
Other than an AT filter, is there anything else I should change since I'm dropping the tranny to change the front seal?Thanks, Ken -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/0be65837/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
Loren, Are you sure you are using the Owners key and not the Valet key. Only the Owners key will unlock the trunk and glove box. Try the key in the glove box to make sure it will Lock Unlock it. Russ W. Loren Faeth wrote: I thought the key lock overrides the vacuum lock. I will try starting the car. the vacuum locks work, so if vacuum overrides air, that will unlock the trunk, but I am skeptical. I know on the 107, the key overrides vacuum At 08:40 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Remove the rear seat, find the vacuum lines that go into the trunk and mitivac each one until the lock unlocks. Onee locks and one unlocks. On Jul 9, 2009 9:34am, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1ce562cb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
The trunk was locked with the key, so that would not work. mguzzir...@gmail.com wrote: Remove the rear seat, find the vacuum lines that go into the trunk and mitivac each one until the lock unlocks. Onee locks and one unlocks. On Jul 9, 2009 9:34am, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1ce562cb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
NO squirrels in the building. Some dust, but the trunk lock is protected by position, and by the functional lock door. There did not appear to be any opportunity of foreign material to enter. At 09:35 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Yes-on my 240D (and my previous one) the key override vacuum-must be in lock or latch. Squirrel residue from storage? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:18 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question I thought the key lock overrides the vacuum lock. I will try starting the car. the vacuum locks work, so if vacuum overrides air, that will unlock the trunk, but I am skeptical. I know on the 107, the key overrides vacuum At 08:40 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Remove the rear seat, find the vacuum lines that go into the trunk and mitivac each one until the lock unlocks. Onee locks and one unlocks. On Jul 9, 2009 9:34am, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1 ce562cb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel in trunk
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote: access panel on the back wall of the trunk? It _is_ the back wall of the trunk. And even for a novice like me it was easy to get off with just a box wrench. Ratchet would be easier though. :) I wouldn't feel guilty asking someone with very modest mechanical skill to do it. When I took my tank out, the pictures at : http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/showthread.php?t=92826 gave me some extra confidence, but they really weren't necessary. I noticed at the end one of the comments is about a leak into the trunk, but he didn't give any resolution. I suppose your person could coat the whole tank with baby powder and drive with the back wall out for a few days. Best, -Tim Happy to have something to contribute, however marginal. :) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/676eebf8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
It is the same key that has always worked before, but I will check. As far as I know, the valet key will go into the trunk and glove box, but won't turn. This is a problem that the key won't go into the slot. At 09:48 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Loren, Are you sure you are using the Owners key and not the Valet key. Only the Owners key will unlock the trunk and glove box. Try the key in the glove box to make sure it will Lock Unlock it. Russ W. Loren Faeth wrote: I thought the key lock overrides the vacuum lock. I will try starting the car. the vacuum locks work, so if vacuum overrides air, that will unlock the trunk, but I am skeptical. I know on the 107, the key overrides vacuum At 08:40 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Remove the rear seat, find the vacuum lines that go into the trunk and mitivac each one until the lock unlocks. Onee locks and one unlocks. On Jul 9, 2009 9:34am, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1ce562cb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84 500sel transmission?
I was hoping you guys were right, but he replied this morning; apparently it won't shift into -any- gear, forward or reverse. It is an automatic. He says the engine sounds fine, so presumably it is in neutral or park. Seems like you'd be able to feel if the shifting linkage was broken, right? He didn't know what service records meant, which doesn't inspire a lot of confidence. Probably would be getting in over my head, but I'd really like a 126. :/ -Tim Thinking maybe I should choose a cheaper hobby, like dictating the conversations of passers'-by On Wed, Jul 8, 2009 at 8:27 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: B2 of kick down switch. Rick -- From: Tim C. bb...@crone.us Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] '84 500sel transmission? I happened upon this, near my in-laws so I could borrow a driveway for a weekend. http://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/1257520898.html Like I don't have enough to do on the diesels, but if it's a quick fix it might be a nice touring car to replace our Ford. He doesn't say if it's an automatic or manual; is it really that hard to dig up a transmission though? Is that really the reasonable suspect for a no-shift condition? Thoughts? Thanks, -Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/31228fc7/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '84 500sel transmission?
Tim C wrote: I was hoping you guys were right, but he replied this morning; apparently it won't shift into -any- gear, forward or reverse. It is an automatic. He says the engine sounds fine, so presumably it is in neutral or park. Seems like you'd be able to feel if the shifting linkage was broken, right? Ripped a flex disk in half? Seems Kleb bought a 'bad tranny' car like that. Broke a CV joint on a halfshaft? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another...
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: . Then I'd have yet another good used diff. If it didn't work out I guess I could build a retaining wall or something. Out of diffs, or 201s? ;) Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
I'm 100% sure about them. I've locked/unlocked my SDL trunk about 15 times in the last week. But, if it has been locked by the key, it will have to be turned CCW first to unlock it and allow you to push the button in or allow the vacuum/pressure to work. Luther Loren Faeth wrote: the key slot is vertical. Are you sure about key/vacuum positions? I always found it was opposite. Vertical is locked with key and horiz is open/vacuum locked. -- Luther KB5QHUAlma, Ark '87 300SDL (281,xxx mi) '85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast '82 300CD (183 kmi) '82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold '85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine The Accordion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT some woodworking
If anyone is interested I endeavored to make a Rhombicosidodecahedron from wood. I made a little photo album here: http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/Rhombicosidodecahedron/ First effort, some aspects to work out. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
I had the exact same symptom on my 240D last year. In my case all the tumblers had seized inside the lock and I had to cut it apart to get them out. I have no idea what you can do in the trunk situation... Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:34:34 -0500 From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com Subject: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: mailman.267.1247146691.11109.mercedes_okiebenz@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/d96188b8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
On My 240 both keys will fit into the lock. On SWMBO's 240 the Valet key only goes in half or a little past half way in. Go figure. Loren Faeth wrote: It is the same key that has always worked before, but I will check. As far as I know, the valet key will go into the trunk and glove box, but won't turn. This is a problem that the key won't go into the slot. At 09:48 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: Loren, Are you sure you are using the Owners key and not the Valet key. Only the Owners key will unlock the trunk and glove box. Try the key in the glove box to make sure it will Lock Unlock it. Russ W. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Interesting 77 450SEL
other Protestants/Hindi/Buddhist of course will already be qualified for that privilege). And... Lutherans and Mercedes are both usually GERMAN! Heaven can wait, but what a car! - Location: Ft Wayne IN and NW Ohio - it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests [image: image 1257973807-0][image: image 1257973807-1][image: image 1257973807-2][image: image 1257973807-3] PostingID: 1257973807 -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/de075bc9/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
Curt Raymond wrote: I had the exact same symptom on my 240D last year. In my case all the tumblers had seized inside the lock and I had to cut it apart to get them out. I have no idea what you can do in the trunk situation... Kroil? ATF and Acetone? (4-5 drops inside the cylinder) Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Interesting 77 450SEL
Ed Booher wrote: CHARITY RAFFLE, 1977 Mercedes, *86K miles* S-Class, Estate Gift - $10 (Ft Wayne IN and NW Ohio) I'm pretty sure that car will not title with the correct mileage. It's over 10 years old, so if you title it in Indiana or Ohio, you will be dismayed to find that your new title says EXEMPT in the mileage box, no matter what mileage certification is made by the seller. Keep a photocopy of both sides of the original title if you get an old car with low miles. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking
So, is this just to prove you could do it, or does it have some purpose? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT some woodworking If anyone is interested I endeavored to make a Rhombicosidodecahedron from wood. I made a little photo album here: http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/Rhombicosidodecahedron/ First effort, some aspects to work out. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking
Well, I have made some dodecahedrons before, and wanted to do something more complex. I guess to prove I could do it (which I knew I could, but to get it right is the challenge), but also to incorporate such things into unique furniture designs. --R R A Bennell wrote: So, is this just to prove you could do it, or does it have some purpose? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT some woodworking If anyone is interested I endeavored to make a Rhombicosidodecahedron from wood. I made a little photo album here: http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/Rhombicosidodecahedron/ First effort, some aspects to work out. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking
Very nice, and it looks like you also made the supports for the machine and possibly the bed. Gerry --- From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Well, I have made some dodecahedrons before, and wanted to do something more complex. I guess to prove I could do it (which I knew I could, but to get it right is the challenge), but also to incorporate such things into unique furniture designs. --R R A Bennell wrote: So, is this just to prove you could do it, or does it have some purpose? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - motorcycles and noise
'Nice and quiet all night last night; 'guess the motorcycle fool/nut doesn't have his bike fixed yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: OT - motorcycles and noise For several months, some cycle nut within a coupla blocks of here has been riding his very loud motorcycle around the neighborhood very aggressively. Whenever he accelerates, it seems to be at full throttle, even when on cross streets going block-to-block - accelerate at full throttle for first part of block, stop for stop sign, accelerate at full throttle, stop for stop sign, etc. It's most annoying at midnight 'til wee hours of the morning. 'Coupla nights ago at 1 AM , he came through in the typical loud and aggressive manner, and SWMBO call police; their response was, We'll send somebody out. 'Course by the time anybody got here, offender was long gone, and all was quiet. About mid-afternoon yesterday, I heard screeching sound and some commotion on my side street and at its intersection with through street out front. I hobbled to kitchen, looked out window toward corner and saw nothing. 'Few minutes later SWMBO came in from side yard. I asked her what was the noise a few minutes before. She said the guy with the loud motorcycle was coming up side street very fast; as he was approaching stop at through street, his helmet blew off. This must have distracted him for a moment; he wobbled, then realized he needed to stop, applied lotsa brake resulting in body and machine tumbling through the intersection. By the time I looked out, he must have been behind bushes or a tree. SWMBO said he got up and rolled the cycle away with slight limp. This morning I noticed a long skid mark and little piles of broken plastic in the street and intersection; my thought, Couldn't have happened to a better one. 'Didn't hear the loud and very annoying cycle last night. 'Glad he wasn't hurt terribly bad and much glader he didn't hurt somebody else - yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for motorcycle guys: cheap '83 Honda Nighthawk CB650questions 1200cc Sportster? At least she probably doesn't look like an idiot on it. My friend Ed bought one, he's 6' 2, looked like a fool, this huge guy on a tiny bike. My wife rode it once and swore off Harleys based on it. The only Harley I'd have is something like an Ultra-Classic and then only with fuel injection. My father-in-law has one and its pretty nice. Of course my wife doesn't universally love her Kawi either, she doesn't like the cruiser seating arrangement any more than I do. I think I'll sell it in the spring (its all hell to sell a bike in the summer) and look for something in a 500cc standard. Harley guys here are all up in arms because we've got noise regulation coming in, I laugh, they've done it to themselves. Loud pipes don't save lives, riding defensively does. All loud pipes do is piss off non-bikers who then want to pass regulations. Theres more of them than there are of us so we're the ones need to play nice... Which reminds me I need to get looking for pipes for my Honda, one has a small rust through. A lot of guys swapped to 4-into-1 so original pipes should be reasonable... -Curt Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:00:12 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for motorcycle guys: cheap '83 Honda Nighthawk CB650 questions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 61dfb08b0907071700g2b6c827dpe6841d9657c4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My son did that (yuppie bastard that he is -- can I say bastard on this list? -- guess I just did). He bought a Harley DynaWideGlide -- had it delivered by trailer to his NoVA condo and didn't ride it. Yet. Passed the MSF course on a 250cc bike -- and, friends and neighbours, that is 6'6 and at least 250+ lbs on a 250cc. I'd venture to guess that there was not a whole lot of acceleration and it very top heavy in the turns. MSF ticket in hand, heTHEN started riding his Harley. He's has still scared the crap out of himself a couple of times on the bike, but is gaining experience and so far still has a pulse. As a tip to the hat for the females who might be reading this, his wife took the course along with him, and he marked her graduation with the purchase of her 1200cc Sportster. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090708/1b770af5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] OT - motorcycles and noise
WILTON wrote: 'Nice and quiet all night last night; 'guess the motorcycle fool/nut doesn't have his bike fixed yet. Should have written down his plate number as he pushed it home, might come in handy if you need to report him in the future. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] motorcycling, YouTube'ness and general foolishness
starry-eyed young things find this sort of foolishness impressive in some way and these people that are the least qualified to be responsible parents are the people that end up breeding the most,... /rant cheers! e relng...@aol.com wrote: Funny? Are you crazy? It was horrifying. It was an illustration of the stupidity of MANY motorcyclists. RLE -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/20c2c1af/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
Thanks for the info. I will gather up all the keys I have and take them next time. If by chance a valet key was left with the car, then that could be the problem. I will test the keys in the glove box to be sure I have an owner key. I hope either the PB blaster loosens the elements or i have an owners key that will work. At 11:10 AM 7/9/2009, you wrote: I had the exact same symptom on my 240D last year. In my case all the tumblers had seized inside the lock and I had to cut it apart to get them out. I have no idea what you can do in the trunk situation... Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 08:34:34 -0500 From: Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com Subject: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: mailman.267.1247146691.11109.mercedes_okiebenz@okiebenz.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed 240D (123) has been sitting in a building for almost a year. I tried to unlock the trunk, and the key won't go in all the way. It goes in 1/2-3/4 of the way. I tried spraying in the lock with PB, but that didn't seem to make any difference. I could insert a 3/32 drill rod all the way and I could insert a metal wiper reinforcement (about 1/8 wide) all the way. First I thought an element was stuck, but later thought something was stuck inside the lock. After getting the drill rod and flat metal in, I am back to thinking something is stuck. I figured that I would let the PB soak for a while and see what happens. The trunk was locked with the key when it was parked. I don't think there is any way into the trunk without getting the lock to work, other than as a last resort, drilling out the lock. Is that correct? Yes, it is the right key, it works in the ign and in the doors. Thanks -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/d96188b8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: Thanks for the info. I will gather up all the keys I have and take them next time. If by chance a valet key was left with the car, then that could be the problem. I will test the keys in the glove box to be sure I have an owner key. I hope either the PB blaster loosens the elements or i have an owners key that will work. On a different, but related, note: How worn is the key you have on you? I have a house key, that will not always go into my dead bolt. My wife's and my eldest daughter's keys work without problem, but mine has been well used and as such isn't quite true any more. It acts sometimes like it's either a key to another lock or is bent or something. This may be happening here, as well, if the key has been the only key you've used for years, it may no longer be in the correct shape to push up the final tumbler, letting the key the rest of the way into the lock. EdB -- I'm a Night Elf Mohawk! - Mr. T. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/a2f88afb/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another...
Some days I wonder. The noise is a little quieter today. I'd put in Mobil 1 gear oil some time ago but I did it with the car on ramps facing down the slight incline of my driveway (it was already making noise before) so yesterday I faced the car up the incline and jacked up just the driver's side (used a jack stand have no fear). I probably got 1-4 more ounces of gear oil in using that method and the diff is slightly (but noticably) quieter... That at least helps prove to me its the diff and not maybe a rear wheel bearing. The noise is similar to but more resonant that the noise you'd get from a bad front wheel bearing. -Curt Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:48:05 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f7b6bd1a0907090848p308db69ew20b1d54683448...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: . Then I'd have yet another good used diff. If it didn't work out I guess I could build a retaining wall or something. Out of diffs, or 201s? ;) Alex -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/c96df38f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
The problem is theres not much space to work with and on mine the tumbler's were trapped in some kind of waxy substance. I thought maybe it was just my car but one of the replacements from Wilton had a similar waxy substance though the coating wasn't as bad and I was able to drive the tumblers out with a punch. Maybe if you could figure out a way to gently heat the whole arrangement... A torch is a really bad way to do it and it'll take time to get the whole cylinder warm. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:34:23 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a561c0f.1090...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I had the exact same symptom on my 240D last year. In my case all the tumblers had seized inside the lock and I had to cut it apart to get them out. I have no idea what you can do in the trunk situation... Kroil? ATF and Acetone? (4-5 drops inside the cylinder) Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/48e851bd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
What weight gear oil? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:07 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another... Some days I wonder. The noise is a little quieter today. I'd put in Mobil 1 gear oil some time ago but I did it with the car on ramps facing down the slight incline of my driveway (it was already making noise before) so yesterday I faced the car up the incline and jacked up just the driver's side (used a jack stand have no fear). I probably got 1-4 more ounces of gear oil in using that method and the diff is slightly (but noticably) quieter... That at least helps prove to me its the diff and not maybe a rear wheel bearing. The noise is similar to but more resonant that the noise you'd get from a bad front wheel bearing. -Curt Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 08:48:05 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] If its not one thing its another... To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: f7b6bd1a0907090848p308db69ew20b1d54683448...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Curt Raymondcurtlud...@yahoo.com wrote: . Then I'd have yet another good used diff. If it didn't work out I guess I could build a retaining wall or something. Out of diffs, or 201s? ;) Alex -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/c9 6df38f/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
The technical name for those was cruiseliner ventiports! Don't ask how I remember this bit of arcane trivia. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:40 PM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] OT - Fads A ridiculous styling fad that Buick introduced about 1950 - '52 still hangs on. Buick started putting port holes (fake exhaust ports) on the upper sides of front fenders about '50 -'52 to simulate exhaust pipes/ports on sides of '20's Cord, Duisenberg, etc., hoods. The more expensive/bigger Buicks had four ports; smaller models had three ports. After marketers picked up on it and sold even fakier attachment ports that vehicle owners could add to their fenders on Fords, Chevies, Plymouths, or whatever. Well, guess what I saw this afternoon - a fairly new Buick with, you guessed it - fake exhaust ports on sides of front fenders. They've been streamlined a bit since the early '50's, but they're still there - must-have items, especially for a Buick owner, I guess. Otherwise, how can one tell it's a Buick? ;) Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090708/2c be4341/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
They first appeared in 1949-and for that fist year only were functional ventiports. Growing up folklore was that guys would pee into the holes. No direct knowledge of that. FWIW Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fiorentino Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:33 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads The technical name for those was cruiseliner ventiports! Don't ask how I remember this bit of arcane trivia. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:40 PM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] OT - Fads A ridiculous styling fad that Buick introduced about 1950 - '52 still hangs on. Buick started putting port holes (fake exhaust ports) on the upper sides of front fenders about '50 -'52 to simulate exhaust pipes/ports on sides of '20's Cord, Duisenberg, etc., hoods. The more expensive/bigger Buicks had four ports; smaller models had three ports. After marketers picked up on it and sold even fakier attachment ports that vehicle owners could add to their fenders on Fords, Chevies, Plymouths, or whatever. Well, guess what I saw this afternoon - a fairly new Buick with, you guessed it - fake exhaust ports on sides of front fenders. They've been streamlined a bit since the early '50's, but they're still there - must-have items, especially for a Buick owner, I guess. Otherwise, how can one tell it's a Buick? ;) Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090708/2c be4341/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking
I sort of assumed it was mostly an effort to prove you could do it. Wondered if you had a use such as a box that opens etc. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking Well, I have made some dodecahedrons before, and wanted to do something more complex. I guess to prove I could do it (which I knew I could, but to get it right is the challenge), but also to incorporate such things into unique furniture designs. --R R A Bennell wrote: So, is this just to prove you could do it, or does it have some purpose? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT some woodworking If anyone is interested I endeavored to make a Rhombicosidodecahedron from wood. I made a little photo album here: http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/Rhombicosidodecahedron/ First effort, some aspects to work out. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
Yep Buick had the straight 8, thus the 8 holer. The straight sixes were known as six holer buicks. As GM tried to push everyone toward v-8s, the salesworms made a big deal of selling customers that they needed and 8 holer. I think they still do, even though the holes are vestigal and as useful as t*ts on a boar. The MB 300SL had working ports on the fenders, behind the front wheel to duct away heat in the engine compartment. The 53-55 corvettes were styled as a preview of 55/56 Chevies. Then the stylers decided to copy the 300SL. SO the 56-63 Corvette had the styled, but useless side vents and route 66 went on the boob tube, and a 40 year run of classics was born. At 03:39 PM 7/8/2009, you wrote: A ridiculous styling fad that Buick introduced about 1950 - '52 still hangs on. Buick started putting port holes (fake exhaust ports) on the upper sides of front fenders about '50 -'52 to simulate exhaust pipes/ports on sides of '20's Cord, Duisenberg, etc., hoods. The more expensive/bigger Buicks had four ports; smaller models had three ports. After marketers picked up on it and sold even fakier attachment ports that vehicle owners could add to their fenders on Fords, Chevies, Plymouths, or whatever. Well, guess what I saw this afternoon - a fairly new Buick with, you guessed it - fake exhaust ports on sides of front fenders. They've been streamlined a bit since the early '50's, but they're still there - must-have items, especially for a Buick owner, I guess. Otherwise, how can one tell it's a Buick? ;) Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090708/2cbe4341/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Bodywork - Plastic Bumper Cover
Hi Gang - My W124 91 300D has some scratches on the rear bumper cover. It's plastic and I'm hoping to find a way to clean up the scratches and then repaint it. I assume I should start with 800 grit sandpaper and then move to 1200-1500 grit until it's smooth - then I can shoot it with Diamond Blue. Is that about right?Any better methods to use? Any power tools that would make it easier? Thanks for the help- LarryT 91 300D 2.5 T Read the Constitution once in a while - http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/923336d3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
My father had a couple of inline 8 Buicks and quite liked them. He said real good power (he probably meant torque) and reasonably good fuel mileage in a big heavy car. He totalled the first one and walked away. Tires were not as good back then. He spun it in the rain and slid into a rock cut backwards. I wasn't very old - maybe 6 or 7? - but I remember him coming home and handing my mother a chrome ring about 4 inches in diameter and saying, that's all that is left of the Buick. It was a trim ring from around the turn signal light on the front. That ring was on a shelf on the kitchen cupboards for many years. He was hauling home a new Quaker brand oil space heater when the accident happened and there was a red glass circle in the door on the front of it with the name Quaker on it- a form of company id I guess - that glass was cracked in the accident - an ongoing reminder of that incident for the many years we had that stove in the living room of our house. I also remember him telling a story about the immediate aftermath of the accident. He had groceries in the trunk including hamburger that got thrown out onto the rock face on impact. One of the first cars along after the accident had a woman who got out to offer assistance and just about passed out when she saw the burger spread over the rock face. She thought for sure someone had been killed and really smeared on the rock in the accident. My father was in pretty good shape in those days and I do not recall him complaining but I assume he took a bit of a hit when the car hit that rock face going backwards at probably 40 mph plus. There was another fellow with him as well but I do not now recall who that was. This incident must have happened about 50 years ago. The insurance company offered him a car in replacement that was much better than the one he had that got wrecked and he was quite happy to tell that story for the rest of his life. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Loren Faeth Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 3:51 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads Yep Buick had the straight 8, thus the 8 holer. The straight sixes were known as six holer buicks. As GM tried to push everyone toward v-8s, the salesworms made a big deal of selling customers that they needed and 8 holer. I think they still do, even though the holes are vestigal and as useful as t*ts on a boar. The MB 300SL had working ports on the fenders, behind the front wheel to duct away heat in the engine compartment. The 53-55 corvettes were styled as a preview of 55/56 Chevies. Then the stylers decided to copy the 300SL. SO the 56-63 Corvette had the styled, but useless side vents and route 66 went on the boob tube, and a 40 year run of classics was born. At 03:39 PM 7/8/2009, you wrote: A ridiculous styling fad that Buick introduced about 1950 - '52 still hangs on. Buick started putting port holes (fake exhaust ports) on the upper sides of front fenders about '50 -'52 to simulate exhaust pipes/ports on sides of '20's Cord, Duisenberg, etc., hoods. The more expensive/bigger Buicks had four ports; smaller models had three ports. After marketers picked up on it and sold even fakier attachment ports that vehicle owners could add to their fenders on Fords, Chevies, Plymouths, or whatever. Well, guess what I saw this afternoon - a fairly new Buick with, you guessed it - fake exhaust ports on sides of front fenders. They've been streamlined a bit since the early '50's, but they're still there - must-have items, especially for a Buick owner, I guess. Otherwise, how can one tell it's a Buick? ;) Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090708/2cbe4341/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
Put the key (or some old key or a piece of metal similar size) in as far as it will go and put the torch to that. It will get hot enough. --R Curt Raymond wrote: The problem is theres not much space to work with and on mine the tumbler's were trapped in some kind of waxy substance. I thought maybe it was just my car but one of the replacements from Wilton had a similar waxy substance though the coating wasn't as bad and I was able to drive the tumblers out with a punch. Maybe if you could figure out a way to gently heat the whole arrangement... A torch is a really bad way to do it and it'll take time to get the whole cylinder warm. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 12:34:23 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a561c0f.1090...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Curt Raymond wrote: I had the exact same symptom on my 240D last year. In my case all the tumblers had seized inside the lock and I had to cut it apart to get them out. I have no idea what you can do in the trunk situation... Kroil? ATF and Acetone? (4-5 drops inside the cylinder) Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/48e851bd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/b24d869b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
Randy wrote: The insurance company offered him a car in replacement that was much better than the one he had that got wrecked and he was quite happy to tell that story for the rest of his life. Too bad that type of thing doesn't happen these days. It would be a nice change, instead of the fight anyone has trying to get anything from the insco these days - but, we gotta carry ins or we can get ticketed - nice - N O T ! ! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking
I was thinking about doing that with a half on a base -- it is called a cupola, you can make all different kinds just by cutting the middle pieces in half at the right angles and then making a base with ever how many sides. It might be easier to put together too. The rhombi... will be the top, the base will be the box and the top can flip open. I have some dodecahedrons that are in 2 parts so the top comes off the bottom. Not good for much other than to look at, but I haven't done anything else with them. I get obsessed sometimes with mathematical things, and feel compelled to make them out of wood. I don't think it has yet reached the disorderly stage, but I might be fantasizing --R R A Bennell wrote: I sort of assumed it was mostly an effort to prove you could do it. Wondered if you had a use such as a box that opens etc. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 11:10 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking Well, I have made some dodecahedrons before, and wanted to do something more complex. I guess to prove I could do it (which I knew I could, but to get it right is the challenge), but also to incorporate such things into unique furniture designs. --R R A Bennell wrote: So, is this just to prove you could do it, or does it have some purpose? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:03 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] OT some woodworking If anyone is interested I endeavored to make a Rhombicosidodecahedron from wood. I made a little photo album here: http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/Rhombicosidodecahedron/ First effort, some aspects to work out. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/bf0471fd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
Car insurance seems like quite a scam- since it's required by law they have a captive audience. If the whole industry together offers bad service and high prices (which they seem to do) there's nothing we can do except pay it anyways, or drive illegally without it. Tyler Mountain Man wrote: Too bad that type of thing doesn't happen these days. It would be a nice change, instead of the fight anyone has trying to get anything from the insco these days - but, we gotta carry ins or we can get ticketed - nice - N O T ! ! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bodywork - Plastic Bumper Cover
A random orbital sander does a nice job of taking stuff down quickly with heavier grits and then smoothing things nicely with finer grits. You can get up to like 220 or 250 grit discs, but if you use the worn out ones they can make stuff really smooth. Or then just go over with the finer stuff by hand. --R LarryT wrote: Hi Gang - My W124 91 300D has some scratches on the rear bumper cover. It's plastic and I'm hoping to find a way to clean up the scratches and then repaint it. I assume I should start with 800 grit sandpaper and then move to 1200-1500 grit until it's smooth - then I can shoot it with Diamond Blue. Is that about right?Any better methods to use? Any power tools that would make it easier? Thanks for the help- LarryT 91 300D 2.5 T Read the Constitution once in a while - http://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/constitution.overview.html -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/923336d3/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the slot
Vertical is the vacuum/air control position and horizontal is the key locked position. Try pushing down firmly on the lid while depressing the button. Correct. Always. RLE ** Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/2bd4ec9b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Portholes
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
Interesting take on this insurance thing but it's not true. In CA and many other stares the law reads you must show Financial Responsibility. How you do that is by posting a Bond with the state or purchasing liability insurance. There is no legal requirement that you have to purchase collision insurance so you can get a better Buick.However, if you finance the car, the lienholder may have a different opinion. And, no liability insurance, no registration which is exactly the way it should be. John On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 4:03 PM, tylercasi...@usermail.com wrote: Car insurance seems like quite a scam- since it's required by law they have a captive audience. If the whole industry together offers bad service and high prices (which they seem to do) there's nothing we can do except pay it anyways, or drive illegally without it. Tyler Mountain Man wrote: Too bad that type of thing doesn't happen these days. It would be a nice change, instead of the fight anyone has trying to get anything from the insco these days - but, we gotta carry ins or we can get ticketed - nice - N O T ! ! mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
John wrote: And, no liability insurance, no registration which is exactly the way it should be. Well, there ya go - that is why we have insurance. People are afraid of people. Maybe I am afraid of myself, as I am a people. I still remain of the opinion that insurance is a luxury item that we are forced to partake - which is the fundamental of scam. It is snake oil, pure and simple. btw, how many people post bond instead of insurance? Does posting a bond satisfy your desire for liability insurance? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
So you're saying it's not a scam because we have the option of posting a bond? Well, you have to post a bond of 35,000 US dollars which is exactly the same as requiring insurance for the ~99.99% of people who don't have an extra 35 grand laying around for which they don't mind being unable to even control for regular investment purposes. We should be allowed to take personal responsibility for our actions without posting bond. Personally, I don't drive much and when I do I drive in an extremely safe and careful manner. I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving. Tyler John Freer wrote: Interesting take on this insurance thing but it's not true. In CA and many other stares the law reads you must show Financial Responsibility. How you do that is by posting a Bond with the state or purchasing liability insurance. There is no legal requirement that you have to purchase collision insurance so you can get a better Buick.However, if you finance the car, the lienholder may have a different opinion. And, no liability insurance, no registration which is exactly the way it should be. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking
Nice, but tell us more about the CNC machine with the router attached to it... Dan --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: [MBZ] OT some woodworking To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:02 PM If anyone is interested I endeavored to make a Rhombicosidodecahedron from wood. I made a little photo album here: http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/Rhombicosidodecahedron/ First effort, some aspects to work out. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
Yeah, I think it was '49, after I sent the first post on 'em. Wilton - Original Message - From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads They first appeared in 1949-and for that fist year only were functional ventiports. Growing up folklore was that guys would pee into the holes. No direct knowledge of that. FWIW Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fiorentino Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 4:33 PM To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads The technical name for those was cruiseliner ventiports! Don't ask how I remember this bit of arcane trivia. Greg Fiorentino '85 300SD '80 240D 4 spd. manual '79 300DT (with new crate engine) '95 and '97 Crown Vics '97 F-250HD Crew Cab 7.3 Powerstroke -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of WILTON Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:40 PM To: mercedes list Subject: [MBZ] OT - Fads A ridiculous styling fad that Buick introduced about 1950 - '52 still hangs on. Buick started putting port holes (fake exhaust ports) on the upper sides of front fenders about '50 -'52 to simulate exhaust pipes/ports on sides of '20's Cord, Duisenberg, etc., hoods. The more expensive/bigger Buicks had four ports; smaller models had three ports. After marketers picked up on it and sold even fakier attachment ports that vehicle owners could add to their fenders on Fords, Chevies, Plymouths, or whatever. Well, guess what I saw this afternoon - a fairly new Buick with, you guessed it - fake exhaust ports on sides of front fenders. They've been streamlined a bit since the early '50's, but they're still there - must-have items, especially for a Buick owner, I guess. Otherwise, how can one tell it's a Buick? ;) Wilton -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090708/2c be4341/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
tyler wrote: I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving. Really, however, it is the yahoos that drive along with you on the public road that are more the hazard. However, you do remind me of a concept I heard long time ago. This person was saying he drives without a driver license, hence without insurance, maybe. The concept he was utilizing the commerce clause in the constitution - something to the effect of no harm to be enacted. I guess there are cases that are tried routinely on the matter - all of which win, as the concept is clearly within the establishment of the government. But, who looks at the establishment principles anymore - we are not a nation of laws, we are a nation of idiots who deserve what we get because we allow such atrocity at the federal levels - tea party time. oops, maybe this should have been posted at banned. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 123 trunk lock question
On Thu, 09 Jul 2009 10:04:16 -0500 Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: It is the same key that has always worked before, but I will check. As far as I know, the valet key will go into the trunk and glove box, but won't turn. This is a problem that the key won't go into the slot. I have always seen that the valet key will go in only about half-way. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] motorcycling, YouTube'ness and general foolishness
BTDT I was snowboarding though, slowly drifting down the hill not really paying attention, the board slipped out from under me and *WHAM* went the pain... The first and only time I've ever snowboarded. At least it was my left wrist and I'm right handed. -Curt Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:55:03 -0700 From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org Subject: Re: [MBZ] motorcycling, YouTube'ness and general foolishness To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 4a563d07.6000...@backyardengineering.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; Format=flowed just another note; it's not fast toys necessarily that hurt you; after a lifetime of playing with a variety of vehicles and toys and having a broad range of various minor injuries from being a 'Victim of an Active Lifestyle', i suffered my worst injury a few years back when i fell off of a bicycle at somewhere near 1/4 MPH and shattered a wrist. cheers! e -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/c55614ee/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
Does Mobil 1 come in more than one weight? I dunno offhand. The car made the noise before the Mobil 1, I didn't really expect the change to fix worn bearings. I'm just sort of hoping it'll mask some noise for awhile. Sort of like the old bacon trick. Speaking of which... ;) -Curt Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:18:55 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another... To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 00c701ca00d2$7c44db60$74ce92...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 What weight gear oil? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1a9eaf6a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
I don't know. Regular dino gear oil used to come in 90 and 120. WE used 120 to quiet a noisy dif with 90. Don't know about bacon-some old timers used a bit of sawdust. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:48 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another... Does Mobil 1 come in more than one weight? I dunno offhand. The car made the noise before the Mobil 1, I didn't really expect the change to fix worn bearings. I'm just sort of hoping it'll mask some noise for awhile. Sort of like the old bacon trick. Speaking of which... ;) -Curt Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 16:18:55 -0400 From: Dwight E. Giles, Jr degco...@cox.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another... To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 00c701ca00d2$7c44db60$74ce92...@net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 What weight gear oil? Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1978 240D 4 speed. 218K miles. 1979 240D- auto -250K + miles. (SOLD). 1990 300D 2.5t 160K miles. Wickford, RI -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/1a 9eaf6a/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
...but, we gotta carry ins or we can get ticketed - nice - N O T ! !... Any car without liability coverage should be off the road. RLE ** Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/2a5f9d7d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
why? relng...@aol.com wrote: ...but, we gotta carry ins or we can get ticketed - nice - N O T ! !... Any car without liability coverage should be off the road. RLE ** Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/2a5f9d7d/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/367766fd/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good.......
..We should be allowed to take personal responsibility for our actions without posting bond. Personally, I don't drive much and when I do I drive in an extremely safe and careful manner. I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving... Your naivete is positively cosmic. Please stay the hell out of Washington State. RLE ** Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/485c60c5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - motorcycles and noise
I'm a pretty tolerant person and hate to strip people of their rights but loud motorcycles at any time of the day is really annoying. We can get tickets for beeping but the deafening rumble of a mcycle is ok? Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2009, at 1:48 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote: 'Nice and quiet all night last night; 'guess the motorcycle fool/nut doesn't have his bike fixed yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: OT - motorcycles and noise For several months, some cycle nut within a coupla blocks of here has been riding his very loud motorcycle around the neighborhood very aggressively. Whenever he accelerates, it seems to be at full throttle, even when on cross streets going block-to-block - accelerate at full throttle for first part of block, stop for stop sign, accelerate at full throttle, stop for stop sign, etc. It's most annoying at midnight 'til wee hours of the morning. 'Coupla nights ago at 1 AM , he came through in the typical loud and aggressive manner, and SWMBO call police; their response was, We'll send somebody out. 'Course by the time anybody got here, offender was long gone, and all was quiet. About mid-afternoon yesterday, I heard screeching sound and some commotion on my side street and at its intersection with through street out front. I hobbled to kitchen, looked out window toward corner and saw nothing. 'Few minutes later SWMBO came in from side yard. I asked her what was the noise a few minutes before. She said the guy with the loud motorcycle was coming up side street very fast; as he was approaching stop at through street, his helmet blew off. This must have distracted him for a moment; he wobbled, then realized he needed to stop, applied lotsa brake resulting in body and machine tumbling through the intersection. By the time I looked out, he must have been behind bushes or a tree. SWMBO said he got up and rolled the cycle away with slight limp. This morning I noticed a long skid mark and little piles of broken plastic in the street and intersection; my thought, Couldn't have happened to a better one. 'Didn't hear the loud and very annoying cycle last night. 'Glad he wasn't hurt terribly bad and much glader he didn't hurt somebody else - yet. Wilton - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for motorcycle guys: cheap '83 Honda Nighthawk CB650questions 1200cc Sportster? At least she probably doesn't look like an idiot on it. My friend Ed bought one, he's 6' 2, looked like a fool, this huge guy on a tiny bike. My wife rode it once and swore off Harleys based on it. The only Harley I'd have is something like an Ultra-Classic and then only with fuel injection. My father-in-law has one and its pretty nice. Of course my wife doesn't universally love her Kawi either, she doesn't like the cruiser seating arrangement any more than I do. I think I'll sell it in the spring (its all hell to sell a bike in the summer) and look for something in a 500cc standard. Harley guys here are all up in arms because we've got noise regulation coming in, I laugh, they've done it to themselves. Loud pipes don't save lives, riding defensively does. All loud pipes do is piss off non-bikers who then want to pass regulations. Theres more of them than there are of us so we're the ones need to play nice... Which reminds me I need to get looking for pipes for my Honda, one has a small rust through. A lot of guys swapped to 4-into-1 so original pipes should be reasonable... -Curt Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 19:00:12 -0500 From: Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for motorcycle guys: cheap '83 Honda Nighthawk CB650 questions To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 61dfb08b0907071700g2b6c827dpe6841d9657c4...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 My son did that (yuppie bastard that he is -- can I say bastard on this list? -- guess I just did). He bought a Harley DynaWideGlide -- had it delivered by trailer to his NoVA condo and didn't ride it. Yet. Passed the MSF course on a 250cc bike -- and, friends and neighbours, that is 6'6 and at least 250+ lbs on a 250cc. I'd venture to guess that there was not a whole lot of acceleration and it very top heavy in the turns. MSF ticket in hand, heTHEN started riding his Harley. He's has still scared the crap out of himself a couple of times on the bike, but is gaining experience and so far still has a pulse. As a tip to the hat for the females who might be reading this, his wife took the course along with him, and he marked her graduation with the purchase of her 1200cc Sportster. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL:
[MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Has anyone replaced a burned off fuse seat in the fuseholder assembly of an '83 300d? the part of the seat underneath the fuse looks ok and I can probably solder a new brass seat on to it, but will the plastic assembly withstand the heat of soldering? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
tyler casi...@usermail.com writes: We should be allowed to take personal responsibility for our actions without posting bond. Personally, I don't drive much and when I do I drive in an extremely safe and careful manner. I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving. You are not thinking this all the way through. If you cause an accident and kill someone, or disable him for life, you may have a judgement rendered against you by the court that could cost you most of your assets and income for the rest of your life. Liability insurance is to protect YOU, not the other guy. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
relng...@aol.com wrote: Any car without liability coverage should be off the road. Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net writes: why? Operating a motor vehicle is the one thing most of us do that has any real chance of directly causing the death of another person, or significant property damage. If you do so without the means to be responsible for the consequences, you are being negligent. Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Has anyone replaced a burned off fuse seat in the fuseholder assembly No. Fuse blocks are cheap at the U-Pull. I've never seen one taken, in fact. That's high-temperature plastic, but I'm not sure soldering would hold up, especially if it started to get hot. Spot welding, maybe. I'd say replace it if you can. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT some woodworking
A buddy of mine got into the CNC thing to make parts for robots he builds for his lab. I saw one he made from a kit, and figured I could make one straightaway. He pointed me in the right direction (cnczone.com) and after reading a bunch of stuff there I ordered some slides from Igus (good German stuff, pricey but very nice), some lead screws and bearings and anti-backlash nuts from Kerkmotion, and some aluminum extrusions from here and there. I made the frame for it from plywood, the gantry rides on 36 drill rods (and plastic slide bearings I bought) my buddy had left over. The stepper motors I scavenged from old Laserjet printers I scavenged at the recycle facility in Houston (I would take some Gatorades and give them to the community-service doers and they would put the old Ljets aside for me -- I told them I was building robots and they thought I was some kind of mad wacko). I bought a controller kit and soldered it up. Plug that into my daughter's hand-me-down laptop (actually better than new ones since it has a good parallel port to drive the controller) running some control software (Mach3, there is a free version that is limited to so many lines of g-code, I bought a license so I can run longer jobs) and some CAD/CAM programs (free versions) to make designs and generate g-code for the control software. G-code is very simple stuff, you can actually write control stuff for simple things straightaway in a text editor and run it -- it basically says move x/y/z some distance at some rate, line after line of it. I power it with an old power supply that came from a big film developer that I bought at the electronics surplus shop for $35 -- 10 circuits with breakers, 10V and 24V up to 10A, honkin big ass thing weighs about 40lb. That is about it for the machine, there really isn't that much to it once you sorta figure it out. I probably have $500 in the whole thing, mostly the slides and lead screws which I will re-use at some point on a better machine, although this one does a fine job as it is. You can bodge one up cheap from threaded rod and low-end stuff that is probably OK for random fun stuff, I made a really rough single-axis prototype from about $3 worth of parts and a small stepper from something, and powered it with an old printer power supply, was getting repeatable accuracy of 0.02 which ain't too bad for $3. I use a little Bosch router with various bits, gotta make a mount for a Roto-zip too since it uses some smaller bits and can make some smaller cuts. I might make a smaller machine for a Dremel just to do smaller stuff with as I have a bunch more scavenged motors (printers and scanners) and some other bits (printers and scanners) that would work fine. Once you start with it, there is a whole lot that can be done. The controller has 4 axes so at some point I want to put a rotary axis on (like a rotisserie) so I can do some fancy spiral turnings and stuff like that. You can also use the controller to make a lathe or mill CNC -- my buddy bought a small Harbor Freight mill and runs that now to automatically make robot parts from metal. I bought one of their little lathes, might CNC that at some point just for the hell of it. Once you have the hang of it, you can make big ones too and make big stuff, go up to 5 axes. If you are interested read up on cnczone, I can give you any advice you might want. Its a fun thing, fairly simple actually, and you can make some nice stuff. --R LWB250 wrote: Nice, but tell us more about the CNC machine with the router attached to it... Dan --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: [MBZ] OT some woodworking To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 12:02 PM If anyone is interested I endeavored to make a Rhombicosidodecahedron from wood. I made a little photo album here: http://s707.photobucket.com/albums/ww79/RTChoke/Rhombicosidodecahedron/ First effort, some aspects to work out. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/ed9da011/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
And CHANGE ALL THE FUSES. --R Jim Cathey wrote: REmove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
The converse is also true - if the other guy feels responsible enough to forgo insurance, then he'll be unable to pay the judgement rendered against him for your injury/death. His liability insurance is to protect you as well. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: tyler casi...@usermail.com writes: We should be allowed to take personal responsibility for our actions without posting bond. Personally, I don't drive much and when I do I drive in an extremely safe and careful manner. I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving. You are not thinking this all the way through. If you cause an accident and kill someone, or disable him for life, you may have a judgement rendered against you by the court that could cost you most of your assets and income for the rest of your life. Liability insurance is to protect YOU, not the other guy. Allan -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/7aa80ad1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
Is there sufficient brass material standing free of the plastic. If not, can you get to the wires on that fuse and move 'em to an unused/undamaged fuse position? You mean the brass part of the fuse holder that sticks upward? Upper part of one of the fuse holders in my 91 350SDL had a short, tongue-like terminal soldered to it when new, evidently by/for selling dealer; 'had wire to power dealer-installed cell phone plugged onto it; I broke the extra tongue/terminal off last week, 'cause original, analog phone is no longer installed. Wilton - Original Message - From: archer arche...@embarqmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:29 PM Subject: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder Has anyone replaced a burned off fuse seat in the fuseholder assembly of an '83 300d? the part of the seat underneath the fuse looks ok and I can probably solder a new brass seat on to it, but will the plastic assembly withstand the heat of soldering? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good.......
And NC. Wilton - Original Message - From: relng...@aol.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good... ..We should be allowed to take personal responsibility for our actions without posting bond. Personally, I don't drive much and when I do I drive in an extremely safe and careful manner. I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving... Your naivete is positively cosmic. Please stay the hell out of Washington State. RLE ** Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. (http://personals.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntuslove0003) -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/485c60c5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
Wow, you just described about half the drivers in Houston, although I don't think pangs of responsibility and remorse factor in. --R OK Don wrote: The converse is also true - if the other guy feels responsible enough to forgo insurance, then he'll be unable to pay the judgement rendered against him for your injury/death. His liability insurance is to protect you as well. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: tyler casi...@usermail.com writes: We should be allowed to take personal responsibility for our actions without posting bond. Personally, I don't drive much and when I do I drive in an extremely safe and careful manner. I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving. You are not thinking this all the way through. If you cause an accident and kill someone, or disable him for life, you may have a judgement rendered against you by the court that could cost you most of your assets and income for the rest of your life. Liability insurance is to protect YOU, not the other guy. Allan -- OK Don Pair of W124 300D 2.5 Turbos -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/7aa80ad1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090709/983f451c/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
Allan wrote: Operating a motor vehicle is the one thing most of us do that has any real chance of directly causing the death of another person, or significant property damage. If you do so without the means to be responsible for the consequences, you are being negligent. Nobody smart and responsible would disagree. However, there are means to remain responsible and also operate a motor vehicle without the fleecing that insurance is. Insurance is fleecing and a scam - it is not a service. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good.......
He lives just down the street from you. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Fads
Allan wrote: You are not thinking this all the way through. You know - our whole kulture is formed these days on fear. Fear is not innovative. Fear is discriminatory. Fear loves uniformity. Fear cannot stand diversity. If we all could live with more fear, this would be a much better country with all the growing tyranny all around. Of course, we are in the third generation of an increasingly growing tyranny - and yet, no tea party... yet. Ya wonder what Boston did right so many years ago. In da big inning, we had things that were real, such as inalienable rights - wha's dat? mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another...
Curt, Dwight, et al. In Olde Yingland, we used cut up nylon stockings to thicken up the diff. oil and quieten down the howling. Also provided some lubrication. On the 87 190DT I changed the diff oil to 85W90 M1 and it has slowly gone quiet. About 5k miles, so far so good. Had a slight whine at 35-40 steady throttle, now gone. Squirrelly Olde English Nut. Fred Moir Lynn MA At 09:51 PM 7/9/2009, you wrote: I don't know. Regular dino gear oil used to come in 90 and 120. WE used 120 to quiet a noisy dif with 90. Don't know about bacon-some old timers used a bit of sawdust. Bissell Cove Quahog Auto Salvage Co Dwight E. Giles, Jr. Wickford RI 02852 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 9:48 PM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] If it's not one thing it's another... Does Mobil 1 come in more than one weight? I dunno offhand. The car made the noise before the Mobil 1, I didn't really expect the change to fix worn bearings. I'm just sort of hoping it'll mask some noise for awhile. Sort of like the old bacon trick. Speaking of which... ;) -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] but I'm a good.......
Calm down Roger, some people don't understand the concept of an accident. I like to think I am a careful driver and have never in 20 plus years hit another vehicle or person but I still have insurance on the vehicles. Why? Because there may come a time when circumstances dictate that I do have an accident. I can't tell how, where or why and that's why I have insurance, which is not a requirement by law where I live. 3rd party property is about AU$120-140 per car/year. Not a great deal when you consider an MB C class is about AU$70,000. Hendrik who likes to think he is a good driver relng...@aol.com wrote: ..We should be allowed to take personal responsibility for our actions without posting bond. Personally, I don't drive much and when I do I drive in an extremely safe and careful manner. I would be more than willing to risk driving without insurance if it were legal because it's extremely unlikely that I will cause an accident due to negligent driving... Your naivete is positively cosmic. Please stay the hell out of Washington State. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
That's BS, all sorts of things can and do happen out on the road. Perhaps you could tell us the grand secret to never having an accident, apart from not driving. Insurance is a necessary evil, designed to protect us from our stupidity and unforeseen circumstances. I just paid AU$4000 to insure my business for a year, do you think I like doing that? But if I am going to run a successful business I have to cover myself and not live in some fools paradise and think I won't have any accidents. Same with my cars, what happens if I swerve to avoid some dumb kid who ran out into the road and write off a brand new S class? The kid has legged it and I am held responsible because I crossed into the path of the other car. What would you do? Hit the kid and then sue the parents for the damage to your car? If you think that public roads is a place you can make 100% safe, you are a fool who should not be out there. Hendrik Mountain Man wrote: Allan wrote: Operating a motor vehicle is the one thing most of us do that has any real chance of directly causing the death of another person, or significant property damage. If you do so without the means to be responsible for the consequences, you are being negligent. Nobody smart and responsible would disagree. However, there are means to remain responsible and also operate a motor vehicle without the fleecing that insurance is. Insurance is fleecing and a scam - it is not a service. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Burned off seat in fuse holder
The upright part is burned off, Wilton, but on further checking I found that No. 5 fuseholder has no wires going to it and the paperwork shows it as being empty; so I'll take your suggestion. I think I can follow Jim and Peters procedure, take the fuseholder out, and swich the wire from the burned fuseholder to the new one. I was going to make a new end for the burned fuseholder out of some spring brass, but this will probably work better. Unfortunately the closest U-Pull that would be likely to have a Mercedes (Tampa) is about 90 miles from here. Many thanks to you, Peter, Jim, and Rich for the suggestions. Gerry --- Wilton wrote: Is there sufficient brass material standing free of the plastic. If not, can you get to the wires on that fuse and move 'em to an unused/undamaged fuse position? You mean the brass part of the fuse holder that sticks upward? Upper part of one of the fuse holders in my 91 350SDL had a short, tongue-like terminal soldered to it when new, evidently by/for selling dealer; 'had wire to power dealer-installed cell phone plugged onto it; I broke the extra tongue/terminal off last week, 'cause original, analog phone is no longer installed. Rich wrote: And CHANGE ALL THE FUSES. Jim wrote: Remove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. And please remember to disconnect the battery first! --- Peter wrote: Remove the fuse box and turn it upside down. I think they are screwed in from the bottom, I seem to remember two screws from doing other work down there. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] as per the recommendations of MacPoos
I ran virtual box on the mini using an old old version of XP home (from 2001). in truth, not that much smoother than virtual PC used to be. could be i'm not giving it enough ram, but i only have 1 gig on the mini (did you ever dream of the day when you'd say only 1 gig of ram?). it was easy and fast to set up and was connected to the internet right out of the box. considering there is really one program right now that i use windoze for, it should be adequate -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090710/42a292b8/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insurance
freak things happen all the time, mostly from other people doing it to my cars. if liability weren't required, i imagine that my uninsured motorist coverage would go through the roof. it costs enough already given that the mexicans don't generally carry any insurance and, as they are largely illegals anyway, run whenever they get into a crash. i generally carry everything but collision, except on the saturn where collision only costs like 100 bucks extra a year. On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 10:03 AM, Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.auwrote: That's BS, all sorts of things can and do happen out on the road. Perhaps you could tell us the grand secret to never having an accident, apart from not driving. Insurance is a necessary evil, designed to protect us from our stupidity and unforeseen circumstances. I just paid AU$4000 to insure my business for a year, do you think I like doing that? But if I am going to run a successful business I have to cover myself and not live in some fools paradise and think I won't have any accidents. Same with my cars, what happens if I swerve to avoid some dumb kid who ran out into the road and write off a brand new S class? The kid has legged it and I am held responsible because I crossed into the path of the other car. What would you do? Hit the kid and then sue the parents for the damage to your car? If you think that public roads is a place you can make 100% safe, you are a fool who should not be out there. Hendrik Mountain Man wrote: Allan wrote: Operating a motor vehicle is the one thing most of us do that has any real chance of directly causing the death of another person, or significant property damage. If you do so without the means to be responsible for the consequences, you are being negligent. Nobody smart and responsible would disagree. However, there are means to remain responsible and also operate a motor vehicle without the fleecing that insurance is. Insurance is fleecing and a scam - it is not a service. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090710/d3561d0b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
