On 25/02/2012 10:21 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
An automatic 240D (we had one) is very un-fun in the acceleration
department. The words dangerously slow tend to come to mind.
One of the few cars I've ever driven that could not keep speed
up some of our highway hills in this State...
And
Peugeot is losing money. They are in talks with GM about some sort of alliance.
http://www.freep.com/article/20120222/BUSINESS01/202220465/France-confirms-GM-Peugeot-Citroen-negotiating-possible-alliance
Gerry
On 26 February 2012 22:33, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
ahh the joys of driving a 240D, this brings back lots of memories.
Almost makes me want another one so I can revisit my youth.
On 2/27/2012 10:07 AM, Randy Bennell wrote:
On 25/02/2012 10:21 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:
An automatic 240D (we had one) is very un-fun in the acceleration
Sorry to hear they're losing money. They haven't been available here in
Canada for decades now. I've always liked them, and I think they're still
some of the best looking cars in Europe. I drove a small one all over the
North of Italy, and it was a blast. It was a 2.0L engine, which was the
Your drop back and charge approach is exactly how Sterling Moss described
how to properly overtake when passing, in his book on how to drive in a
safe sporting style. Book was probably published in the 50s, as I recall
there was a chapter on bias ply tires. hee hee.
Then there are times, when
I found these on sale at Costco for $299 for the pair. I drove the few
extra miles to the Portland store to save the sales tax. Both of the sets
in the store had some minor dents. One was bad enough that one of the
drawers would not open. The other set was missing keys. The store manager
Umm - wrong. It's not the EPA, we can buy Diesels here now. Just go to your
local MB dealer (or VW, etc,). It's the lack of an informed market here.
They're not going to bring cars over that they can't sell because the US
still thinks of the GM Diesels from the 80's.
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:40
I have had plenty of practice over the years. I have had lots of low
powered vehicles. My father was always more interested in fuel economy
than horsepower and I suppose to a great extent I have followed that
route too.
I have had a - 64 Anglia with an engine smaller than most motorcycles
My first car was a 1970 Ford Maverick with the 170 cubic inch plant. Heater and
an AM radio were the extent of the creature comforts in that car.
Poor thing could hardly get out of its own way. Thank goodness it had a three
on the tree and not a slushbox.
Dan
On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:37 PM,
Yep. GM ruined/destroyed Diesel market in USA with the Diesel crap they
put in cars in late '70's and early '80's.
Wilton
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I would suggest that one of the main reasons for not seeing more diesels in
North America, is the stigma they still carry as being dirty oil burners.
There is a large market of potential diesels buyers, who not only don't
remember the problems GM had in the 80s, but also weren't driving, or
One of my early cars was a Chev Chevette. I remember having to stick a wet
finger out the window as I was approaching an on ramp to the highway, to
get a wind direction reading. If I got a head wind, I knew merging was
going to be a white knuckle affair!
Having a passenger along in that car was
On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
I would agree with you. Most of the time, one can compensate to some extent
by pre-planning one's moves. Need to pass someone? - then drop back and
approach at speed. If the way is clear, go around and if not, then
These kind of posts make me laugh, I commute 110 miles every day with a 240D,
have been doing so for years. The hills here aren't all that big but I do have
a 600' elevation change between home and work.
MA drivers are considered some of the more aggressive in the world and I've
never had a
Yabbut you're pretty equally matched considering the vehicle of choice around
there used to be a Volvo 240 wagon.
Dan (who has driven on I-95 and 128 more times than he would like to recall)
On Feb 27, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
These kind of posts make me laugh, I commute 110
Partially right I think.
The EPA rules are almost absurdly tight for diesel cars (an exception is of
course made for pickup trucks) and while some manufacturers have met the
requirements most consider it not worth it because as you've said the average
American sheeple doesn't see the benefit.
I think with half the marketing money used on the Volt and a decent car from
one of the big 3 you could pretty easily reverse that notion. Especially with
something like the Subaru I mentioned before...
I'm of the opinion that most auto execs are as dumb (or dumber even) than movie
studio
The price and availability of diesel fuel is a factor too.
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Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 2:43 PM
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Yep. GM
Supplemental. Haven't checked lately, but when I lived in FL few years ago,
the FL tax on Diesel was double the tax on gasoline. Makes me wonder about
the whole price structure considering Diesel was cheaper than gas during the
70s fuel shortages. Specifically, how much cost per gallon is fed
Well, the higher cost of Diesel has become a detrimental factor only in the
last coupla years, but in years past, the cost was by far the OTHER way.
BTW, yesterday I paid $3.95/gal for some of that ten-cent fuel.
Wilton
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Curt Raymond wrote:
Partially right I think.
The EPA rules are almost absurdly tight for diesel cars
Worse yet, the CARB rules are impossible, and most makers won't touch the US
market unless they can move that product in CA.
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Gerry Archer wrote:
Peugeot is losing money. They are in talks with GM about some sort of alliance.
I thought Renault and American Motors did the Alliance.
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Inspect the anti-sway torsion bar ends. On my '79 300TD, the plastic link
that connected the sway bar to the back suspension broke allowing the end of
the sway bar to rub the wheel and produce a grinding noise, mainly while
turning.
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A Subaru MPG observation. I have a 2008 Outback with the NA 2.5L boxer
motor. Plenty of power considering previous car was NA 300TD. With all the
rotating AWD stuff, this will never be an MPG champ; but conditions are
everything. I get close to 40 mpg cruising at 50 mph on a country road
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who has a later version of a MB wagon
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Scott Ritchey wrote:
A Subaru MPG observation. I have a 2008 Outback with the NA 2.5L boxer
motor. Plenty of power considering previous car was NA 300TD. With all the
rotating AWD stuff, this will never be an MPG champ; but conditions are
everything. I get close to 40 mpg cruising at 50 mph
I did this job on a 123 (from the top) and 126 (from the bottom). It was
easier from the top (but need to remove center console and shifter first).
There are also bushings (nylon, I think) on the shifter that wear out and
these are easily replaced from the top at the same time. Be careful not to
MA adopted CA rules too on diesels, the reason being unclear except it
is a very liberal state full of hacks and idiots (oops, redundant).
That sorta killed the diesel option in that part of the country too I
think. Not sure where they are now, but some years ago that was the
case. Curt
Fed tax on petrol is 0.18, #2 diesel is 0.25 per gallon
clay
On Feb 27, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
Supplemental. Haven't checked lately, but when I lived in FL few years ago,
the FL tax on Diesel was double the tax on gasoline. Makes me wonder about
the whole price structure
In the great PNW, we have bioD at $0.28 discount over #2 diesel
clay
On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:00 PM, WILTON wrote:
Well, the higher cost of Diesel has become a detrimental factor only in the
last coupla years, but in years past, the cost was by far the OTHER way. BTW,
yesterday I paid
Hendrik and Fay wrote:
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Hendrik
who has a later version of a MB wagon
Oooh, I know where there's a totaled 2000 E320 4matic sedan.
That would be one way to chase the mechanical and electrical gremlins out of
clay monroe wrote:
Fed tax on petrol is 0.18, #2 diesel is 0.25 per gallon
...unless you're driving one of the vehicles that does 30,000 times the road
damage of a passenger car, then you get a discount on the road diesel tax.
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Been having some issues with the trackpad on the Mac, seems to have a
mind of it's own. Bloody thing is of course out of warranty.
Anyone know anything about these things? Seems to be a hardware issue as
it works well sometimes and then goes wonky. Talked to the Indian apple
techie who got me
Monitor is suffering from a bad chinese capacitor. Unless it is over 26
inches, not worth spending cash for a shop to fix.
The macbook, depends upon which model, but I suspect you will have to source a
new top case. Keyboard and pad to swap out the old one.
clay
On Feb 27, 2012, at 3:33
On 27/02/2012 3:51 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
These kind of posts make me laugh, I commute 110 miles every day with a 240D,
have been doing so for years. The hills here aren't all that big but I do have
a 600' elevation change between home and work.
MA drivers are considered some of the more
just to be fair, let's point out that there are several car
manufacturers who are making diesels that are available for sale right
now in California, so, it's obviously not impossible even though there
are Particulate issues that need to be addressed when burning Diesel
fuel that aren't an
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I'm well west of 128, mostly west of 495. The hills get bigger as you go west
in MA.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 17:05:38 -0500
From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] slooow
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Only if you can't plan ahead farther than yesterday and are bad at math.
Today on the way home diesel was $4.19 at the expensive place and gas was
$3.69. Thats a 13% difference for a fuel with 30% more BTUs...
Of course my in-laws are convinced they're ahead in playing the lottery.
-Curt
There was a year or so where you couldn't get diesels here but VW, MB and BMW
all stepped up and got them in.
I still don't understand the exemption for diesel pickup trucks. Each one of
those must spew out 10 cars worth of black smoke...
-Curt
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:17:31 -0500
From: Rich
Really? How does one apply for it?
I wonder if my accountant knows about that. I've got a years worth of receipts.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 18:22:57 -0500
From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas
Message-ID:
Jerry Herrman wrote:
At the bottom, I try to gain enough speed (about 75 mph) to
take me over the top at 55 mph without having to downshift,
meanwhile watching out for the Highway Patrol. I'm not
always successful, but I do consider this sufficient power
for my purposes. This also serves as
Curt Raymond wrote:
Really? How does one apply for it?
I wonder if my accountant knows about that. I've got a years
worth of receipts.
Drive a big truck. For hire.
You need to have authority to haul interstate commerce, or work
for someone who does. Then you need to licensed
I have already tried replacing some bulging caps, made no difference.
May have gotten onto a cheap power board.
I'll open the Macbook up and have a look, perhaps check the connections
and solder joints, new trackpad is close to 100 bucks.
Hendrik
who is trying to install a printer into Ubuntu
Don't know what taxes might be, but right now diesel is tracking about
$0.25/gallon more than regular unleaded. That's pretty might been the range in
Florida for as long as I can recall.
Dan
On Feb 27, 2012, at 5:53 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:
Supplemental. Haven't checked lately, but when I
Can offer any details about the Mac, as in model or order number?
I can look it up in GSX (Apple's service system) and see if there are any
issues with these parts.
Dan
On Feb 27, 2012, at 6:33 PM, Hendrik and Fay wrote:
Been having some issues with the trackpad on the Mac, seems to have a
Jerry wrote:
In defense of the 240 D...
My current '84 euro 240D 3-pedal is definitely more nimble than my
old, still living at Dieselhead '81 240D 3-pedal. That makes a
noticeable difference and enjoyment driving. Sometimes as I hold the
pedal steady, it seems the engine wants to go faster
Yeah, I knew that. Never been west of 495, although I always want to check out
that part of the state. I never had the time when I was there, which was
always business related
Dan
On Feb 27, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
I'm well west of 128, mostly west of 495. The hills get
It also helps if you can keep it at full output for a longish time. Like my
80mph run home tonight. I'd noticed that my 240D was getting a little pokey. I
suspect our low quality diesel builds up schmutz in the fuel system. Last
Saturday I put half a can (all I had but supposedly enough to
Smart alec.
I think Mitch was suggesting us small-timers could get back some tax money for
damage we were not doing to the roads. I burn aroun 700 gallons of diesel a
year, it'd be worth getting something back.
-Curt
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:32:57 -0600
From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com
To:
Curt Raymond wrote:
Smart alec.
I think Mitch was suggesting us small-timers could get back some tax money for
damage we were not doing to the roads. I burn aroun 700 gallons of diesel a
year, it'd be worth getting something back.
Nope. I was saying that those who do the damage (and a fully
Hendrik
who is trying to install a printer into Ubuntu
That can be a PITA, depending on printer. Ubuntu does not like my Samsung.
Rick
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Mitch Haley wrote:
If your taxable weight is 75,000lb or higher,
you'd have to buy 11,000 gallons of fuel a year to break even
on the road use tax from your 5 cents per gallon savings.
At 5 miles per gallon (typical for an older truck. Modern -
especially aero - can get 6.5 or even 7 mpg)
...Well, the higher cost of Diesel has become a detrimental factor only
in the
last coupla years, but in years past, the cost was by far the OTHER way.
BTW, yesterday I paid $3.95/gal for some of that ten-cent fuel...
Today I paid $4.09.9 for Chevron no-ethanol premium and diesel was
I think I looked at this as well. The HF required some assembly.
Weighs 180lb. How much did yours weigh? Assuming overall weight is based
primarily on gauge of walls.
-Rolf
On 2/27/2012 2:23 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:
I found these on sale at Costco for $299 for the pair. I drove the few
BioDiesel for .28 less than #2? That's gone the other way in the 10 years
I've had an interest. I tried some bio in my first 300D. At that time in
2003, it was $.50 more than #2D. I'll have to check prices for bio in
Portland since I don't believe it's available out here in the westside
The '07 Dodge pickups with the Cummins 6.7L engines were some of the first
to be equipped with Diesel particulate filters (DPF's). They have very
little odor. The 240D is another story :d!
Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
1977 240D 315Kmi, Liesel
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