Re: [MBZ] OT electric motor assembly

2019-07-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 07:13:26 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Despite one part (the extra ring / spacer) left over, the pump ran for
> about five hours straight with no issues.  I'm calling it a success for
> now.
> 
> I just re-started the pump after about 60 hours of sitting, and it had
> held its prime and resumed providing water to my redneck sprinkler
> system ...

Congratulations!


> I did learn that the local Ace hardware store that originally sold me
> the pump has a resident expert, and if I'd brought him the box of
> parts, he probably could have told me exactly how it goes together.

Now you know what to do in case there is a next time.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Better finny for Dan?

2019-07-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 20:38:13 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> those huge amber lights (TS?) are WRONG for 1965.   Someone tried to 
> make it look like a 280SE, but failed.

I thought they might be fog lights, but you are right, they look so wrong.


Craig


> Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 7:17 PM:
> > This one looks to be nicer than the one Dan wants to sell.
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-220se-cabriolet-2/

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[MBZ] Moron of the day

2019-07-16 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Mercedes Benz Diesel

https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-louis-mercedes-benz-diesel/6934877661.html


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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Glad you are well and the w210 was able to see you walk away from the encounter

clay

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 7:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come 
> home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road 
> a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had 
> weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but 
> road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Airbag 
> deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must have fired. I’m 
> ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr 
> Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. 
> 
> I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer and 
> retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A good ol 
> boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. 
> 
> I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the 
> morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and front 
> end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open.  It’s got a salvage title 
> been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good bits. 
> 
> I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended 
> quite as well. 
> 
> And how was YOUR evening?
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Better finny for Dan?

2019-07-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
those huge amber lights (TS?) are WRONG for 1965.   Someone tried to 
make it look like a 280SE, but failed.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 7:17 PM:

This one looks to be nicer than the one Dan wants to sell.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-220se-cabriolet-2/

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Re: [MBZ] Better finny for Dan?

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Although I despise black cars, I will make an exception for one with a red
interior such as this 111 cab.

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> This one looks to be nicer than the one Dan wants to sell.
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-220se-cabriolet-2/
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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My favorite comedian growing up!  Percy Dovetonsils and other brilliant
skits, some with Edie Adams his beautiful wife.  Died young, like so many
others (Gilda, Andy Kaufman, Belushi, John Candy, Phil Hartman, the list
goes on...)

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 8:10 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> Andrew wrote:
> > LOL.  Reminds me of the Laurel and Hardy film...
>
> Laurel and Hardy is *old* film.  Does anyone remember Ernie Kovacs? - olde
> TV
>
> https://www.npr.org/2011/04/18/135511104/ernie-kovacs-the-king-of-early-television-comedy
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[MBZ] Better finny for Dan?

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
This one looks to be nicer than the one Dan wants to sell. 

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-220se-cabriolet-2/

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Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD W116 - the dreaded "key won't turn" situation

2019-07-16 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
It was indeed the column lock that failed, not the tumbler. 

Tom Hanson confirmed that the tumblers are NLA, although he did say "There 
might be some of these back next year, but I can't be sure yet.", so there's 
hope.

I would have ordered a replacement tumbler out of an abundance of caution, but 
since they're NLA it'll have to be looked at, cleaned and lubed. Fingers 
crossed!

Thanks everyone for the guidance and experience!

D.

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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote:
> LOL.  Reminds me of the Laurel and Hardy film...

Laurel and Hardy is *old* film.  Does anyone remember Ernie Kovacs? - olde TV
https://www.npr.org/2011/04/18/135511104/ernie-kovacs-the-king-of-early-television-comedy
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Manilla beige '82 300D on BAT

2019-07-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
-Curt wrote:
>  1982 + 24 = 2006
> I think Mao missed the "owned" and 1995...

OOPS - yep.
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Re: [MBZ] Mini unimog?

2019-07-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 17:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991-mitsubishi-delica-4/

I think, though, the name should have two letters added to it:

Delica ---> Delicate.


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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
No, town drunk for a different town, in Wisconsin.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On July 16, 2019 5:30:04 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Did that involve Teddy K?
>
>Wouldn't happen that way here. Police officer would testify that the 
>accused exhibited signs of impairment etc. If the accused was in 
>possession of the car keys, he would be found guilty.
>
>
>On 16/07/2019 1:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on
>scene and wondering around for about thirty minutes.  Deputy arrived,
>noted smell of alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and
>breathalyzer.
>>
>> At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the
>car, did not observe when the drinking occurred.  Driver was not
>advised of Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under
>the fifth amendment.  Government could not prove when the alcohol was
>consumed, and adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of
>deputy that driver could have become impaired after the crash.  Not
>guilty.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD W116 - the dreaded "key won't turn" situation

2019-07-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Maybe take the tumbler to a locksmith for a professional opinion, they can 
inspect and replace any springs or wafers that are questionable.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Miranda only applies to interrogation, and possibly only to interrogation after 
arrest. 
If the guy just blabs, they're good to go. 
Mitch. 

> On 16/07/2019 1:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, 
> > did not observe when the drinking occurred.  Driver was not advised of 
> > Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth 
> > amendment.  Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and 
> > adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver 
> > could have become impaired after the crash.  Not guilty.

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[MBZ] Mini unimog?

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1991-mitsubishi-delica-4/

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Did that involve Teddy K?

Wouldn't happen that way here. Police officer would testify that the 
accused exhibited signs of impairment etc. If the accused was in 
possession of the car keys, he would be found guilty.



On 16/07/2019 1:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on scene and 
wondering around for about thirty minutes.  Deputy arrived, noted smell of 
alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and breathalyzer.

At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, did 
not observe when the drinking occurred.  Driver was not advised of Miranda 
rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth amendment.  
Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and adequate time has 
passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver could have become 
impaired after the crash.  Not guilty.




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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 16/07/2019 1:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The law is an ass.


ONLY if it happens to be against you.

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Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD W116 - the dreaded "key won't turn" situation

2019-07-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Waytago!   After the cylinter and key were out, did the cylinder turn 
freely?   (Indicating the problem was actually in the steering lock 
itself)   In 40+ years, I've never heard of a steering lock failure.  
They are normally not lubricated.  Tom can confirm(or refute) that.


David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 3:09 PM:

Victory!

For reference, unlike later models, the W116 doesn't require the key to be in a 
particular position to remove the electrical connector from the ignition lock. 
By loosening the three flathead screws slightly, I was able to determine that 
the electrical portion was NOT the problem.

By some MIRACLE, the key was turning JUST far enough to allow me to depress the 
lock pin that prevents removal of the steering lock from the steering column. 
If that hadn't been true, it would have been a bloodbath because there's really 
no room to work in there. Anyway, I lucked out and then just had to unbolt the 
steering column tube (two bolts) and basically reef down on the steering wheel 
until the lock assembly is withdrawn from the column tube. The normal procedure 
is to remove the protective cap before attempting to remove the column lock, 
but since I couldn't turn the key...

Anyway, chuffed with victory having extricated the column lock, I set to work 
on it in the kitchen! I needed to get that key to position 1 in order to remove 
the hardened steel cover. I attacked the back of the steering lock assembly 
where there's a cover plate pressed into the surface. It took about 15 minutes 
with an oscillating Dremel tool until whatever was in it came free. Hallelujah, 
I was able to turn the key, extract the lock cylinder, and do the happy dance.

I have ordered a new genuine MB column lock from FCP Euro and it will be here 
tomorrow!

Incidentally, the column lock was completely dry, as was the tumbler. I'll 
grease them up with hopefully-appropriate lube before reassembly. Have sent a 
note to Tom Hanson at the Classic Center as well to see if there's really no 
longer any ignition lock tumblers available for this car.

D.




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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
But that is in the USA, with a bill of rights; that the founders did not 
believe were necessary, because they were "obvious"


Not so in any other country.  Canada, for all its good things, was a 
Brit colony until pretty recently.   It still has the vestiges of the 
"crown" court.


Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 1:02 PM:

A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on scene and 
wondering around for about thirty minutes.  Deputy arrived, noted smell of 
alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and breathalyzer.

At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, did 
not observe when the drinking occurred.  Driver was not advised of Miranda 
rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth amendment.  
Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and adequate time has 
passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver could have become 
impaired after the crash.  Not guilty.



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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Ah yeah!  Wunna dem wunnerful skandanavian kuntries all the libs wanna 
move to, but never do.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 11:59 AM:

Norway - back in the late 60s - had the same draconian drunk driving laws.
The police can visit you to administer a breathalyzer test; if you fail and
your car engine is still warm, you're outta luck.





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Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD W116 - the dreaded "key won't turn" situation

2019-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Excellent! Well played!

-D


> On Jul 16, 2019, at 4:09 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Victory!
> 
> For reference, unlike later models, the W116 doesn't require the key to be in 
> a particular position to remove the electrical connector from the ignition 
> lock. By loosening the three flathead screws slightly, I was able to 
> determine that the electrical portion was NOT the problem.
> 
> By some MIRACLE, the key was turning JUST far enough to allow me to depress 
> the lock pin that prevents removal of the steering lock from the steering 
> column. If that hadn't been true, it would have been a bloodbath because 
> there's really no room to work in there. Anyway, I lucked out and then just 
> had to unbolt the steering column tube (two bolts) and basically reef down on 
> the steering wheel until the lock assembly is withdrawn from the column tube. 
> The normal procedure is to remove the protective cap before attempting to 
> remove the column lock, but since I couldn't turn the key...
> 
> Anyway, chuffed with victory having extricated the column lock, I set to work 
> on it in the kitchen! I needed to get that key to position 1 in order to 
> remove the hardened steel cover. I attacked the back of the steering lock 
> assembly where there's a cover plate pressed into the surface. It took about 
> 15 minutes with an oscillating Dremel tool until whatever was in it came 
> free. Hallelujah, I was able to turn the key, extract the lock cylinder, and 
> do the happy dance.
> 
> I have ordered a new genuine MB column lock from FCP Euro and it will be here 
> tomorrow!
> 
> Incidentally, the column lock was completely dry, as was the tumbler. I'll 
> grease them up with hopefully-appropriate lube before reassembly. Have sent a 
> note to Tom Hanson at the Classic Center as well to see if there's really no 
> longer any ignition lock tumblers available for this car.
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Re: [MBZ] 79 300SD W116 - the dreaded "key won't turn" situation

2019-07-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Bravo!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On July 16, 2019 4:09:05 PM EDT, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Victory!
>
>For reference, unlike later models, the W116 doesn't require the key to
>be in a particular position to remove the electrical connector from the
>ignition lock. By loosening the three flathead screws slightly, I was
>able to determine that the electrical portion was NOT the problem.
>
>By some MIRACLE, the key was turning JUST far enough to allow me to
>depress the lock pin that prevents removal of the steering lock from
>the steering column. If that hadn't been true, it would have been a
>bloodbath because there's really no room to work in there. Anyway, I
>lucked out and then just had to unbolt the steering column tube (two
>bolts) and basically reef down on the steering wheel until the lock
>assembly is withdrawn from the column tube. The normal procedure is to
>remove the protective cap before attempting to remove the column lock,
>but since I couldn't turn the key...
>
>Anyway, chuffed with victory having extricated the column lock, I set
>to work on it in the kitchen! I needed to get that key to position 1 in
>order to remove the hardened steel cover. I attacked the back of the
>steering lock assembly where there's a cover plate pressed into the
>surface. It took about 15 minutes with an oscillating Dremel tool until
>whatever was in it came free. Hallelujah, I was able to turn the key,
>extract the lock cylinder, and do the happy dance.
>
>I have ordered a new genuine MB column lock from FCP Euro and it will
>be here tomorrow!
>
>Incidentally, the column lock was completely dry, as was the tumbler.
>I'll grease them up with hopefully-appropriate lube before reassembly.
>Have sent a note to Tom Hanson at the Classic Center as well to see if
>there's really no longer any ignition lock tumblers available for this
>car.
>
>D.

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But Mercedes welders ROCK.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 2:38 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ouch that sucks!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 16, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wow, sorry to hear about that, and also glad to hear that no ride to the
> > hospital required.
> >
> > Well, those turbo engines have some value if you want to pull and keep
> > that.  Looks like the intercooler probably got crunched though.  There
> are
> > some other electronic modules that commonly go bad like the K40 relay and
> > the gear shifter box, and the radio.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:08 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to
> >> come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving
> down
> >> the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess
> the
> >> storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp
> >> the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt
> the
> >> ABS. Airbag deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner
> must
> >> have fired. I’m ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the
> morning
> >> but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches.
> >>
> >> I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer
> >> and retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A
> >> good ol boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road.
> >>
> >> I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the
> >> morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and
> >> front end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open.  It’s got a
> salvage
> >> title been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good
> >> bits.
> >>
> >> I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended
> >> quite as well.
> >>
> >> And how was YOUR evening?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Ouch that sucks!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2019, at 7:20 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wow, sorry to hear about that, and also glad to hear that no ride to the
> hospital required.
> 
> Well, those turbo engines have some value if you want to pull and keep
> that.  Looks like the intercooler probably got crunched though.  There are
> some other electronic modules that commonly go bad like the K40 relay and
> the gear shifter box, and the radio.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:08 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to
>> come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down
>> the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the
>> storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp
>> the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the
>> ABS. Airbag deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must
>> have fired. I’m ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning
>> but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches.
>> 
>> I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer
>> and retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A
>> good ol boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road.
>> 
>> I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the
>> morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and
>> front end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open.  It’s got a salvage
>> title been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good
>> bits.
>> 
>> I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended
>> quite as well.
>> 
>> And how was YOUR evening?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The law is an ass.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 2:03 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on scene
> and wondering around for about thirty minutes.  Deputy arrived, noted smell
> of alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and breathalyzer.
>
> At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car,
> did not observe when the drinking occurred.  Driver was not advised of
> Miranda rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth
> amendment.  Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and
> adequate time has passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver
> could have become impaired after the crash.  Not guilty.
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> On July 16, 2019 12:27:14 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >On 16/07/2019 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >>   Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have
> >the right to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized
> >fashion?
> >> Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a
> >really interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm
> >interested in those cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own
> >laws.
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >Some of these cases have been successfully fought but at considerable
> >expense to the person charged. There is some talk of a constitutional
> >challenge but I think there is hope that the Liberal government will be
> >
> >voted out this fall and the Conservatives will amend the law.
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
A lawyer friend defended a similar case, driver crashed car, was on scene and 
wondering around for about thirty minutes.  Deputy arrived, noted smell of 
alcohol, driver failed the field sobriety test and breathalyzer.  

At court, deputy testified that he did not see driver operating the car, did 
not observe when the drinking occurred.  Driver was not advised of Miranda 
rights, so any confession was not admissible under the fifth amendment.  
Government could not prove when the alcohol was consumed, and adequate time has 
passed between crash and arrival of deputy that driver could have become 
impaired after the crash.  Not guilty.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On July 16, 2019 12:27:14 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>On 16/07/2019 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>>   Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have
>the right to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized
>fashion?
>> Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a
>really interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm
>interested in those cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own
>laws.
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>Some of these cases have been successfully fought but at considerable 
>expense to the person charged. There is some talk of a constitutional 
>challenge but I think there is hope that the Liberal government will be
>
>voted out this fall and the Conservatives will amend the law.
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:43:24 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> We have all these "water" oaks on the Island.  I don't know if they are 
> specific type or what, that's what everyone calls them. They get to be
> a certain size and they start to rot or are too weak to hold up.  If it 
> rains, the canopy gets wet and heavy, and the ground gets soft, and
> down they go.  This one actually snapped off right above ground level,
> rot or bugs in the trunk or something.  Our roads mostly have canopies
> of oaks, many live oaks which are actually amazingly strong, so to
> minimize the risk the roads would have to be clear cut, which would
> cause tremendous outrage, although the newer residents from Off have no
> clue and want the trees cut down.  Nope, not happening.

I found the tree canopies along the road to be an interesting feature of
your island. Yes, I can agree, "Nope, not happening."


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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
We have all these "water" oaks on the Island.  I don't know if they are 
specific type or what, that's what everyone calls them. They get to be a 
certain size and they start to rot or are too weak to hold up.  If it 
rains, the canopy gets wet and heavy, and the ground gets soft, and down 
they go.  This one actually snapped off right above ground level, rot or 
bugs in the trunk or something.  Our roads mostly have canopies of oaks, 
many live oaks which are actually amazingly strong, so to minimize the 
risk the roads would have to be clear cut, which would cause tremendous 
outrage, although the newer residents from Off have no clue and want the 
trees cut down.  Nope, not happening.


--FT

On 7/16/19 1:15 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
"Act of God"  No one's fault unless the county knew the tree was a 
danger and failed to take appropriate action.



On 16/07/2019 12:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
When you live in the country, and the country roads are lined with 
trees, this is stuff that happens. Just part of life.


Basil Hayden is a particularly pleasant Kentucky straight bourbon 
whiskey, apply internally liberally...  quite a cure for what ails 
ya.  Or gets you to the point where you don't care!


--FT

On 7/16/19 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:50:51 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:


Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house
to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. 
Driving

down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I
guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph,
managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there
even though I felt the ABS.

Wow.

I'm sorry this happened, Rich, but I am glad you are OK.

Is your county liable?



I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is
ministering my aches.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Mr Basil Hayden"?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Cute but not cheap Isetta

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On July 16, 2019 at 1:26 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> You're right, it's not cheap.
> 
> Neither is this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2006-ford-gt-11/

People waited in line to pay $150k for those new, so I never really expected 
them to drop below $100k.

https://www.autotrader.com/car-video/heres-why-the-2006-ford-gt-is-now-worth-40-256233

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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
LOL.  Reminds me of the Laurel and Hardy film where they bid on a
grandfather clock as a favor to another bidder.  The two ended up competing
against each other, running the price to $300.  Naturally, the guy never
returned so they were stuck with the clock.  Anyone remember the title of
that film?



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> Be careful Andrew. You might end up owning it.
>
>
> On 16/07/2019 12:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Let us know when you list it on BAT so we can do some shill bidding.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Cute but not cheap Isetta

2019-07-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 16:07:18 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  Wikipedia says 161,000 Isettas and derivatives were made over a period
> of 8 or so years.Considering people are paying $15-20,000 for a nice
> Ford Model A and they made 5 million of those I'd figure this car to be
> a bargain... -Curt

You're right, it's not cheap.

Neither is this: https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2006-ford-gt-11/


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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Jul 2019 13:06:52 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Basil Hayden is a particularly pleasant Kentucky straight bourbon 
> whiskey, apply internally liberally...  quite a cure for what ails ya.  
> Or gets you to the point where you don't care!

Gotcha.

I had not heard of that brand.

https://www.basilhaydens.com/bourbon-whiskey

KENTUCKY STRAIGHT Bourbon Whiskey

There’s nothing like that first sip of Basil Hayden’s, whether it be your
first ever or the first of the night.

See what those who know us best have to say

AromaSpice, tea, hint of peppermint
TasteSpicy, light-bodied, gentle bite
Finish   Dry, clean, brief
Proof Eighty



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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

Be careful Andrew. You might end up owning it.


On 16/07/2019 12:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Let us know when you list it on BAT so we can do some shill bidding.




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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
"Act of God"  No one's fault unless the county knew the tree was a 
danger and failed to take appropriate action.



On 16/07/2019 12:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
When you live in the country, and the country roads are lined with 
trees, this is stuff that happens.  Just part of life.


Basil Hayden is a particularly pleasant Kentucky straight bourbon 
whiskey, apply internally liberally...  quite a cure for what ails 
ya.  Or gets you to the point where you don't care!


--FT

On 7/16/19 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:50:51 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:


Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house
to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving
down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I
guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph,
managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there
even though I felt the ABS.

Wow.

I'm sorry this happened, Rich, but I am glad you are OK.

Is your county liable?



I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is
ministering my aches.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Mr Basil Hayden"?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
When you live in the country, and the country roads are lined with 
trees, this is stuff that happens.  Just part of life.


Basil Hayden is a particularly pleasant Kentucky straight bourbon 
whiskey, apply internally liberally...  quite a cure for what ails ya.  
Or gets you to the point where you don't care!


--FT

On 7/16/19 12:57 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:50:51 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:


Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house
to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving
down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I
guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph,
managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there
even though I felt the ABS.

Wow.

I'm sorry this happened, Rich, but I am glad you are OK.

Is your county liable?



I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is
ministering my aches.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Mr Basil Hayden"?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Let us know when you list it on BAT so we can do some shill bidding.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You did.
>
> And while the PO’s son in law did enjoy the car, I don’t think he was
> enamored if it enough to want to buy it back...
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 16, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Oops, I mean to say previous owner's son.
> > Reading it now, it looks like I said your son.
> >
> >> On July 16, 2019 at 10:34 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> No.
> >>
> >>> On Jul 16, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Any chance the seller's son would bid at BAT?
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Norway - back in the late 60s - had the same draconian drunk driving laws.
The police can visit you to administer a breathalyzer test; if you fail and
your car engine is still warm, you're outta luck.

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:27 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> On 16/07/2019 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >   Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have the
> right to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized fashion?
> > Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a really
> interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm interested in
> those cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own laws.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> Some of these cases have been successfully fought but at considerable
> expense to the person charged. There is some talk of a constitutional
> challenge but I think there is hope that the Liberal government will be
> voted out this fall and the Conservatives will amend the law.
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 15 Jul 2019 23:50:51 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house
> to come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving
> down the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I
> guess the storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph,
> managed to stomp the brakes but road was wet so not much good there
> even though I felt the ABS.

Wow.

I'm sorry this happened, Rich, but I am glad you are OK.

Is your county liable?


> I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is
> ministering my aches.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is "Mr Basil Hayden"?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 16/07/2019 11:10 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have the right 
to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized fashion?
Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a really 
interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm interested in those 
cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own laws.

-Curt

Some of these cases have been successfully fought but at considerable 
expense to the person charged. There is some talk of a constitutional 
challenge but I think there is hope that the Liberal government will be 
voted out this fall and the Conservatives will amend the law.


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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Haha, yeah "insurance" I do have to call and cancel it though.

Woke up a bit sore this morning but my buddy and I went to collect the 
car, load it on the trailer, which was a bit of an effort but that 
worked out the kinks.  So the car is back home. Couldn't get the hood 
popped, will have to work on that at some point.  Intercooler is all 
bent up so that part is dead.  I don't think much else got damaged, the 
radiator probably gone.  Most of the damage is low on pass side front, 
and the fender pushed back. I don't think it is fixable so will have to 
become parts.  Good new tires on it so those can be recycled to 
something.  At some point I'll dismantle it and save the good bits and 
take the hulk to the knacker, get a few $$ for it.  It ran great so the 
engine and tranny are good, I wonder what that would transplant into, 
get a diesel again!  Would it be a drop-in on any 210?


--FT


On 7/16/19 11:47 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

What insurance? Would someone carry comprehensive insurance on a $500 car?


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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Is that evidence always admissible in court? In Canada do you have the right 
to know your accuser? Has this yet been used in a weaponized fashion?
Seems like reporting the lawmakers who started the law would be a really 
interesting thing, it'd hassle them if nothing else. I'm interested in those 
cases where lawmakers get caught up in their own laws.

-Curt

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 12:04:06 PM EDT, Randy Bennell 
 wrote:  
 
  If there was an accident, they would. What I am saying is that if someone you 
know sees you leave a bar and calls the police to suggest that you might be 
impaired, they can show up at your home hours later and demand a breath sample. 
If you fail because you have had more to drink after you got home, they will 
still charge you. Crazy law but the wacko government is determined to please 
the soccer mummies who think that booze is bad because you might run over their 
mini-van with the baby on board sticker in the back window.
  
  On 16/07/2019 10:50 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
  
 
 More proof that you live in a police state. Why wouldn't they take evidence at 
the accident scene? 
  -Curt
  
  On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 11:46:38 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
  
   On 15/07/2019 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 >  I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is 
 >ministering my aches.
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > --FT
 
 
 That would be a bad idea in Canada now. Thanks to our wonky Liberal 
 government, the police can now come to your house hours after you have 
 driven and demand a breathalyser sample. So, if you have a couple of 
 drinks at home and that puts you over the allowable limit, even if you 
 were under the limit when you last were behind the wheel, you will be 
 charged with impaired driving. 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Cute but not cheap Isetta

2019-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Wikipedia says 161,000 Isettas and derivatives were made over a period of 8 or 
so years.Considering people are paying $15-20,000 for a nice Ford Model A and 
they made 5 million of those I'd figure this car to be a bargain...
-Curt

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[MBZ] '79 450SL on BAT

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It needs some TLC but $2600 for a 40 year old Mercedes roadster??

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[MBZ] Cute but not cheap Isetta

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I'm actually reminded of last summer talking to a Canadian friend who is a gun 
owner. He mentioned something about getting a firearm shipped to his house. 
"Wait a tick, you can do that?" Apparently you can. 

In retrospect I don't think I asked if it was because of Canada's national gun 
registry or whatever.
He did mention that if he took his AR-15 out in public, like had it in his car 
not locked up with the ammo in a different box, I don't even remember all the 
strict measures, he'd go to jail. Buuut he had another black, plastic gun in 
.223 that was basically the same as an AR-15 without actually being an AR-15 
that he could get away with all sorts of foolishness with. Apparently Canadian 
lawmakers are just as dumb as those in the USA. Which is actually kind of 
comforting in a way...
-Curt

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 On 15/07/2019 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>  I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is 
>ministering my aches.
>
>
>
>
>
> --FT


That would be a bad idea in Canada now. Thanks to our wonky Liberal 
government, the police can now come to your house hours after you have 
driven and demand a breathalyser sample. So, if you have a couple of 
drinks at home and that puts you over the allowable limit, even if you 
were under the limit when you last were behind the wheel, you will be 
charged with impaired driving.


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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 More proof that you live in a police state. Why wouldn't they take evidence at 
the accident scene?
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 11:46:38 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On 15/07/2019 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>  I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is 
>ministering my aches.
>
>
>
>
>
> --FT


That would be a bad idea in Canada now. Thanks to our wonky Liberal 
government, the police can now come to your house hours after you have 
driven and demand a breathalyser sample. So, if you have a couple of 
drinks at home and that puts you over the allowable limit, even if you 
were under the limit when you last were behind the wheel, you will be 
charged with impaired driving.


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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 What insurance? Would someone carry comprehensive insurance on a $500 car?Heck 
that reminds me, I need to take the extra insurance off my pickup. A 9 year old 
truck shouldn't be costing me an extra $500 a year.
When I took comprehensive off the Ranger the insurance agent said "What would 
you do if you got in a wreck?" I said "I'd buy a new truck, you wouldn't give 
me much for this one anyway..."
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 11:44:01 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Glad you're OK - now awaiting the insurance company news.



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> On 16/07/2019 10:34 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Glad you were not injured - I guess timing is everything!
> >
>
> But in this case, timing is essentially luck.
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 15/07/2019 10:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

  I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden is 
ministering my aches.





--FT



That would be a bad idea in Canada now. Thanks to our wonky Liberal 
government, the police can now come to your house hours after you have 
driven and demand a breathalyser sample. So, if you have a couple of 
drinks at home and that puts you over the allowable limit, even if you 
were under the limit when you last were behind the wheel, you will be 
charged with impaired driving.



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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Glad you're OK - now awaiting the insurance company news.



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> On 16/07/2019 10:34 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Glad you were not injured - I guess timing is everything!
> >
>
> But in this case, timing is essentially luck.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Manilla beige '82 300D on BAT

2019-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 1982 + 24 = 2006
I think Mao missed the "owned" and 1995...
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 11:37:25 AM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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 On 15/07/2019 6:34 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
> Randy wrote:
>> ... they have the money to buy toys.
> They need a mathematics refresher course.  24-years and 1982 do not get to 
> 2019.
> tin
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Re: [MBZ] Manilla beige '82 300D on BAT

2019-07-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Bidding topped out at $9600.  Not outrageous, but someone overpaid...

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> On 15/07/2019 6:34 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:
> > Randy wrote:
> >> ... they have the money to buy toys.
> > They need a mathematics refresher course.  24-years and 1982 do not get
> to 2019.
> > tin
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 16/07/2019 10:34 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Glad you were not injured - I guess timing is everything!



But in this case, timing is essentially luck.


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Re: [MBZ] Manilla beige '82 300D on BAT

2019-07-16 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 15/07/2019 6:34 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Randy wrote:

... they have the money to buy toys.

They need a mathematics refresher course.  24-years and 1982 do not get to 2019.
tin

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Glad you were not injured - I guess timing is everything!

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 10:16 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> +1   The car did its job.   A good investment.   Hope you are not sore
> today.
>
> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 10:00 AM:
> > Glad you're ok Rich.
> >
> > Greg
> >
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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
You did.

And while the PO’s son in law did enjoy the car, I don’t think he was enamored 
if it enough to want to buy it back...

-D

> On Jul 16, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oops, I mean to say previous owner's son. 
> Reading it now, it looks like I said your son. 
> 
>> On July 16, 2019 at 10:34 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> No.
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Any chance the seller's son would bid at BAT?
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
+1   The car did its job.   A good investment.   Hope you are not sore 
today.


Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote on 7/16/19 10:00 AM:

Glad you're ok Rich.

Greg





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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
Glad you're ok Rich.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Buggered 
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Subject: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come 
home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road a 
BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had 
weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but 
road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Airbag deployed 
but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must have fired. I’m ok just a 
bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden 
is ministering my aches. 

I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer and 
retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A good ol 
boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. 

I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the 
morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and front 
end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open.  It’s got a salvage title 
been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good bits. 

I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended quite 
as well. 

And how was YOUR evening?



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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Distant cousin was killed about five years ago. 
Tree fell across a road in the UP in a storm at night, blocking the road.

Two of them stopped, Mark got a chain saw out of his truck and the other guy 
helped, then somebody came along and hit Mark, or hit the tree into Mark, I 
don't remember exactly. 

Mitch. 

> On July 16, 2019 at 10:43 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Whew, probably needed to change your shorts after that.
> Theres been a big push across New England (well MA, NH and ME that I know of) 
> to move trees back from the road. Partially because of things like this but 
> also to keep them off the power lines. This is a good reminder as to why

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Whew, probably needed to change your shorts after that.
Theres been a big push across New England (well MA, NH and ME that I know of) 
to move trees back from the road. Partially because of things like this but 
also to keep them off the power lines. This is a good reminder as to why...
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 16, 2019, 5:08:34 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come 
home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road a 
BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had 
weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but 
road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Airbag deployed 
but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must have fired. I’m ok just a 
bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr Basil Hayden 
is ministering my aches. 

I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer and 
retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A good ol 
boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. 

I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the 
morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and front 
end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open.  It’s got a salvage title 
been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good bits. 

I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended quite 
as well. 

And how was YOUR evening?


--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Manilla beige '82 300D on BAT

2019-07-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Which is why I gave up having an old car as a daily driver. I go too far too 
often. I was working on my car every week. As the 123 cars get into middle age 
it gets more difficult to keep them in really good shape...
Well that and I hated driving them into the ground. Cars here don't wear out so 
much as fade away.

-Curt

On Monday, July 15, 2019, 10:03:59 PM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The thing is that car is more than half worn out. It may keep clattering
along for another 100k before the tranny is totally shot, and a lot of
rubber looks like it was replaced, but the steering is going to be loose
and the motor may need work. Turn signal stalk may go, no cruise, yada yada.

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> On 15/07/2019 3:01 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Pretty good money for a sedan. At least it had new half shafts.
> >
> > I keep wondering where the value is though. No mention of rebuilt head,
> new
> > steering box, new transmission, or rebuilt turbo. All are wear items at
> > that mileage.
> >
> > I was impressed that he got the vac pods out without removing the dash
> > though. I may have a go at that.
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 15, 2019, 12:08 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> Either they have the money to buy toys. Cars they wanted back when they
> were new but could not afford then maybe?
>
> Or, they looked at the price of a new Kia or Hyundai and decided that a
> half worn out MB was a better deal than a cheap throw away car for
> comparable money?
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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Oops, I mean to say previous owner's son. 
Reading it now, it looks like I said your son. 

> On July 16, 2019 at 10:34 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> No.
> 
> > On Jul 16, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Any chance the seller's son would bid at BAT?

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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No.

> On Jul 16, 2019, at 10:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Any chance the seller's son would bid at BAT?
> Mitch. 
> 
>> On July 16, 2019 at 8:33 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I’m not going to provide an accounting at this point as I don’t know what it 
>> would be. I have a round number in mind, which would be within about 15%-20% 
>> below what I believe to be market price on this car. To be honest, if I 
>> broke even I would be happy
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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Any chance the seller's son would bid at BAT?
Mitch. 

> On July 16, 2019 at 8:33 AM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m not going to provide an accounting at this point as I don’t know what it 
> would be. I have a round number in mind, which would be within about 15%-20% 
> below what I believe to be market price on this car. To be honest, if I broke 
> even I would be happy

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I probably pushed the tree a good 20ft or 30ft or more.  Thumped it 
good.  Main hit on pass side front, so that pushed the fender into the 
door a bit.  I'm headed over shortly to collect it so will check it out 
more.


--FT

On 7/16/19 8:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On July 16, 2019 at 8:42 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:


If you did 40-0 in a couple of feet I'm sure the chassis is trash.

Should have looked at the picture first, looks like you might have moved the 
tree 10-15 feet.
But like Peter said, if the door openings aren't door shaped any more, it's 
dead, even if it wasn't worth 3 digits to begin with.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On July 16, 2019 at 8:42 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> If you did 40-0 in a couple of feet I'm sure the chassis is trash. 

Should have looked at the picture first, looks like you might have moved the 
tree 10-15 feet. 
But like Peter said, if the door openings aren't door shaped any more, it's 
dead, even if it wasn't worth 3 digits to begin with. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Glad you're OK. 
I assume if you were going to do something like that, the $500 300D or the $200 
SEC would be your first choice of car to do it in?
If you did 40-0 in a couple of feet I'm sure the chassis is trash. 
Does the 300D have BAS?

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Re: [MBZ] This is Sort of Tempting

2019-07-16 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I’m not going to provide an accounting at this point as I don’t know what it 
would be. I have a round number in mind, which would be within about 15%-20% 
below what I believe to be market price on this car. To be honest, if I broke 
even I would be happy, as the things I’ve learned working on this car have been 
invaluable and will help immensely in future acquisitions as far as 
understanding what will be required to make another car right, if necessary.

-D

> On Jul 15, 2019, at 5:40 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The Finny project seemed like quite a fun and rewarding project! It was quite 
> enjoyable to follow along as it progressed. How much would you value your 
> total with purchase price, parts and time to improve it to present condition? 
> I get the same enjoyment in my RC car hobby with building up projects to 
> running condition and selling them and using the funds to build another. 
> Good luck with the sale, and also finding your next one!!
> 
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It will go to BaT with a reasonable reserve, but I would hope it would end 
>> up north of $10k.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 15, 2019, at 2:25 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We need to dig out the estimates and see who the winner is when it sells.
>>> 
>>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 7/15/19 10:52 AM:
 
 Do I not recall a declaration that you intended to keep this car long 
 term? We were all suggesting it would not be around for long but you were 
 telling us we were wrong.
 
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
If a door won't open, it's toast -- too much distortion in the body to ever get 
right.

And this indeed is why I drive a Benz -- saved my life when a guy ran a red 
light due to inattention and T-boned me doing 60.  Mashed the car all to hell, 
but I walked away.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Wow, sorry to hear about that, and also glad to hear that no ride to the
hospital required.

Well, those turbo engines have some value if you want to pull and keep
that.  Looks like the intercooler probably got crunched though.  There are
some other electronic modules that commonly go bad like the K40 relay and
the gear shifter box, and the radio.

-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:08 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to
> come home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down
> the road a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the
> storm had weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp
> the brakes but road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the
> ABS. Airbag deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must
> have fired. I’m ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning
> but right now Mr Basil Hayden is ministering my aches.
>
> I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer
> and retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A
> good ol boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road.
>
> I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the
> morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and
> front end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open.  It’s got a salvage
> title been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good
> bits.
>
> I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended
> quite as well.
>
> And how was YOUR evening?
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Manilla beige '82 300D on BAT

2019-07-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Dude these cars go a million miles, what are you talking about?  ;)
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 10:03 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The thing is that car is more than half worn out. It may keep clattering
> along for another 100k before the tranny is totally shot, and a lot of
> rubber looks like it was replaced, but the steering is going to be loose
> and the motor may need work. Turn signal stalk may go, no cruise, yada
> yada.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT electric motor assembly

2019-07-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Despite one part (the extra ring / spacer) left over, the pump ran for
about five hours straight with no issues.  I'm calling it a success for now.

I just re-started the pump after about 60 hours of sitting, and it had held
its prime and resumed providing water to my redneck sprinkler system
(buried garden hoses, soaker hoses, and one sprinkler hidden so the HOA
won't ding me for leaving garden hoses out) with no issues.

I did learn that the local Ace hardware store that originally sold me the
pump has a resident expert, and if I'd brought him the box of parts, he
probably could have told me exactly how it goes together.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 12:16 AM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> Any more action on this, Max?
>
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Re: [MBZ] The $500E300 did its job tonight

2019-07-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ouch!

That’s why we drive these cars, right?

Glad you’re OK.

-D


> On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:50 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rode to a community meeting this evening with a buddy. Left his house to come 
> home about 930. We had big tstorm roll through earlier. Driving down the road 
> a BIG oak tree falls in the road right in front of me. I guess the storm had 
> weakened the tree. I hit it full on at 45mph, managed to stomp the brakes but 
> road was wet so not much good there even though I felt the ABS. Airbag 
> deployed but I don’t think I hit it, seat belt tensioner must have fired. I’m 
> ok just a bit rattled. I’ll probably be sore in the morning but right now Mr 
> Basil Hayden is ministering my aches. 
> 
> I left the car by the road will go over in the morning with the trailer and 
> retrieve it. FD came and cut up the tree and got the road cleared. A good ol 
> boy with a pickup with a winch pulled the car off the road. 
> 
> I guess the car is probably not worth saving but I’ll take a look in the 
> morning once I drag it home. Engine was still running but radiator and front 
> end smashed pretty good. Pass door wouldn’t open.  It’s got a salvage title 
> been wrecked twice before. I’ll dismantle it and keep all the good bits. 
> 
> I’m thankful I didn’t arrive 1/2second sooner, that might not have ended 
> quite as well. 
> 
> And how was YOUR evening?
> 
> 
> 
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