Re: [MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Classic supply and demand - what's to be surprised about? On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:25 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from Russia > prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH

[MBZ] I am not sure they get any uglier than this

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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[MBZ] I’m not sure if I heard this correctly

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
News just now said something about if we cut off import of oil from Russia prices will go up even further. So these prices now are WITH Russian oil? And if we cut it off it will obviously go up more? Or did I miss hear this? They also said lots of grain comes from Russian and the price of

Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yep 87 unleaded went up to $4.25 overnight. Diesel at $4.79 now. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:59 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > It went up here another 30 cents since last night > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Still

Re: [MBZ] Craig

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Sorry to hear that. Very sad news. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 6:13 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see > it. Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley > were in the hospital with Covid. For some

Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yeah it might be a Veblen good. The cost is the attraction. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 10:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > No one would want it if the cost were $1200. > > On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 8:36 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Gaack! Not for

Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No one would want it if the cost were $1200. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 8:36 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Gaack! Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy > the little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t > touch the

Re: [MBZ] Craig

2022-03-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Damn. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 4:05 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > No, it wasn't posted here - thanks for letting us know. Our thoughts and > prayers are with Craig - it's going to be rough for him. > >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:13 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>

Re: [MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Gaack! Not for $12,000, they’re not. That’s as crazy as the guys who buy the little things to hold their precious audio cables up so they don’t touch the floor. Yes, that’s just crazy. Even if it is a class D amp by Bang & Olufsen. I suspected that since they integrate with Sonos stuff it

[MBZ] Console stereos are making a comeback

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Craig

2022-03-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
No, it wasn't posted here - thanks for letting us know. Our thoughts and prayers are with Craig - it's going to be rough for him. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 5:13 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it.

[MBZ] Craig

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I am not sure if this was posted here or not. If it was I did not see it. Anyway, it was posted on the Okie talk list that Craig and Shirley were in the hospital with Covid. For some reason Shirley got moved somewhere else. They did not properly treat her diabetes and sounded like she got moved

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I used to have two wood stoves going most of the time. I obtained free firewood - cut to length logs dumped on my driveway by tree cutting crews in the neighborhood. I would listen for the chain saws, track down the work crew, and then offer to save them a trip to a landfill. Worked great plus

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 07/03/2022 2:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I wouldn't want to have to buy pellets when I have so much wood on the lot, and don't want to have to make sawdust to compress into pellets - seems like a solution looking for a problem to me. But pellet stoves light themselves and feed

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I wouldn't want to have to buy pellets when I have so much wood on the lot, and don't want to have to make sawdust to compress into pellets - seems like a solution looking for a problem to me. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 1:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think I

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Again, as others have stated, a wood burning device is of little value unless it’s properly located and installed in the home. And is Regina going to be up for loading and running it while you’re away, or would you only use it when you’re home? -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 2:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
They're definitely simpler and easier to live with. Make sure you have an alternate source of electricity so if/when the power is out you still have heat. Downside of pellets is they don't store well long term. As far as I know there is no binder in them, they're just held together with

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I think I wouldn’t mind a pellet stove. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:06 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > > A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. > Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and > makes it much easier to

Re: [MBZ] My ML350 Bluetec Oil Cooler Seal Repair update

2022-03-07 Thread Robert Massmann via Mercedes
And to top it off. Somewhere along the repair process I broke the tee fitting on the injector fuel return line, darn! Mercedes only sells the whole assembly and the fitting I broke isn't available. Tried to get the broken piece out of the hose even that I haven't able to remove it yet from the

Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Truly, an ugly truck. Why are the manufacturers trying to make the pickup > trucks look so huge? Every time I look at our two '9x Dodge pickups I'm continually impressed by their appearance. They look capable, yet understated. Clean lines. Nothing newer looks as good, IMHO. The Cummins

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 07/03/2022 12:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. Does it have its own source of combustion air from the outside? We had a wood

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
A wood burner in a living space is a constant mess to keep cleaned up. Having ours in the basement helps keep the mess away from where we live and makes it much easier to clean up. -Curt On Monday, March 7, 2022, 01:02:05 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: We have a wood

Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Can't help but think that there will be more low life folks sneaking around in the night stealing fuel from your vehicles too. I park my truck outside of the garage on a back lane so I half expect to find I have been robbed of gas over night. I hope they just stick a hose down the filler and

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Even without a catalyst most (all?) new stoves have secondary burn that will burn off most of the volitiles. My stove is an older Jotul 118, probably from the '80s. It's got a big secondary burn chamber which also recovers heat from that stuff being burnt off. Once it's burning good it rarely

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
We have a wood stove/fireplace insert that puts out a lot of heat once you get it going. I hate dealing with it though so it’s only used in emergencies. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:00 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are

Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Dunno, the Germans said they won't sanction Russian oil: https://oilprice.com/Latest-Energy-News/World-News/Oil-Prices-Sink-As-Germany-Takes-A-Stance-Against-Ban-On-Russian-Crude.html It seems to me like if we (the global we) were really serious about this thing we (again globally) need to

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
A wood stove fire is sort of nice if you are going to sit around the stove feeling the heat and hearing the fire crackle. Not so wonderful if you need to heat your home with it. If you are going to heat with a wood stove, it needs to be in the middle of the house and the rooms need to be sort

Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
It went up here another 30 cents since last night Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:49 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Still available here at $3.99, for now. First time I have seen prices stable > for two days since this all started. > > >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
We're fortunate to have a small house with the wood stove in the basement. It heats up the floors and thus the upstairs. Our bedroom is the farthest room from the stove and thus the coldest. To heat that room up I vacuum the bedroom. We've got central vac, the canister for which is in the

Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Crude oil just posted at $130 per barrel. Expect another huge rise at the pump price soon. The trading day isn't over yet, and could likely go even higher by days end. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:49 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Still available here at $3.99, for

Re: [MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Still available here at $3.99, for now. First time I have seen prices stable for two days since this all started. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Filling up with diesel at sams this morning > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone >

[MBZ] And now for the gas shortages

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That was a d*ck move on your neighbor’s friend’s part. Really. -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:20 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > The average pickup truck buyer is all sizzle and no steak. > > A friend of my neighbor asked to borrow my truck to move some stuff with. > He's got a

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
True, but I feel just as good about turning up the thermostat, more so than lugging wood into the house from outside several times a day, having to light/start a fire every morning, and cleaning out the wood stove and dumping ashes daily. -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Allan Streib via

Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Same with the ”Raptor”. It’s like they’re trying to sell a consumer version of a monster truck. Yeesh. -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 12:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Truly, an ugly truck. Why are the manufacturers trying to make the pickup > trucks look so huge? > I sort of

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 12:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > With a gas bill of under $100/month in the coldest part of the year > it’s difficult to justify the time and effort to burn firewood, not to > mention it’s not exactly the most efficient or cleanest way to heat, > either.

Re: [MBZ] 2000 ML430 - 240k miles - $2,500

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Possibly. I’ve heard of people having to replace rear wheel bearings on these. The tires are very limited as far as availability, they’re a weird size that only a couple manufacturers make. I had one that was bad on my former ML500 beater that made a lot of noise. Had a really bizarre wear

Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
The average pickup truck buyer is all sizzle and no steak. A friend of my neighbor asked to borrow my truck to move some stuff with. He's got a couple year old Chevy 2500 in perfect condition. I asked why he didn't just use his own truck. "I don't want to get mine dirty. Yours is rusty." What

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
We ran the wood stove for a few days to see how it would go, and while it made that part of the house “toasty”, there was no good way to distribute the heat throughout the rest of the house. The wood stove is in the far corner of a former 2 car garage that was converted to living space many

Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Truly, an ugly truck. Why are the manufacturers trying to make the pickup trucks look so huge? I sort of understand trucks becoming taller given they are pretty much all 4 wheel drive now, but I don't really understand the tall hood and massive grill. They are putting smaller engines in - V6

Re: [MBZ] OT insulation and windows

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I know that code requirements for blow-in insulation in Flagstaff is R44, which is around 15” thick using fiberglass. -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> How much insulation do you have in the attic? > > It's probably about 1' deep. > > -- Jim > > >

Re: [MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The automotive equivalent of stuffing a sock in your pants On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 11:40 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > > > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

Re: [MBZ] 2000 ML430 - 240k miles - $2,500

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
"there is a sound from the rear at higher speeds" Could just be tires I guess, but I was thiking wheel bearing? On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, at 10:58 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > Most are relatively simple stuff, except maybe the coolant leak. > Exhaust hangers are simple, and the lock

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've been slowly adding insulation to our attic. This week I plan to go get the rest, I've got a bunch of Home Depot gift cards... I've been using unfaced fiberglass  laid perpendicular to the existing fiberglass. The rafters are 2x6 so like R19, I'm adding R30. Even having done only half the

[MBZ] Wow

2022-03-07 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] OT insulation and windows

2022-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> How much insulation do you have in the attic? It's probably about 1' deep. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] OT insulation and windows

2022-03-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I totally agree about the windows. All of our expensive triple pane windows have broken seals and moisture in between the panes. It upsets my wife but I have been in no hurry to change them. How much insulation do you have in the attic? Randy On 07/03/2022 10:23 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
_All_ we did was double up the attic blown-in insulation. Made a very noticeable difference. We use wood auxiliary heat, maybe 5 cords a year. I've never paid a dime for any of it. Free downed trees, or I cut off of our acreage in a pinch. I dislike sealed multipane windows, they're all

Re: [MBZ] Project -- Exterior color: Green ·1976 Mercedes-Benz 400 SE Sedan 4D,$1,750

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Probably a viable restoration candidate if not rusted out. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:06 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Doesn't look too bad for the money if you wanted a project > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1082617002308678 > > -- > --FT > > >

Re: [MBZ] Project -- Exterior color: Green ?1976 Mercedes-Benz 400 SE Sedan 4D, $1, 750

2022-03-07 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
Not just any green, but Kaledoniengrün 867! Just like my 76 300D. On Mon, Mar 7, 2022, Floyd Thursby wrote: > > Doesn't look too bad for the money if you wanted a project > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1082617002308678 > > -- > --FT > > ___

Re: [MBZ] 560SEL doesn't look too bad in crappy pics -- 1989 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 500 SEL, $2, 500

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"Has no significant damage or problems." On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 10:02 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1075169633034367 > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I thought the paper/moisture barrier always faced the living space? The moisture barrier always faces the wetter side. Usually that's the inside, but not in all locales. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 86k original miles 1993 300E Gorgeous Mercedes - $6,200

2022-03-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"Needs nothing" redefined: *Needs absolutely nothing mechanically and I currently average 26 mpg! There are only 3 issues with it: the rt rear window motor, the pwr antenna & the rt rear side marker light don't work. * On Mon, Mar 7, 2022 at 9:37 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] 2000 ML430 - 240k miles - $2,500

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Most are relatively simple stuff, except maybe the coolant leak. Exhaust hangers are simple, and the lock issue is likely the “machine gun” problem these all experience. $1500-$1800 is about where it should fall, I would think. -D > On Mar 7, 2022, at 10:50 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >

[MBZ] 2000 ML430 - 240k miles - $2,500

2022-03-07 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Seller seems honest, but I think the ask is too high given the problems. https://chambana.craigslist.org/cto/d/seymour-2000-mercedes-ml430-awd/7454951209.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe

[MBZ] Project -- Exterior color: Green ·1976 Mercedes-Benz 400 SE Sedan 4D,$1,750

2022-03-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Doesn't look too bad for the money if you wanted a project https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1082617002308678 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go

[MBZ] 560SEL doesn't look too bad in crappy pics -- 1989 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 500 SEL, $2, 500

2022-03-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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[MBZ] 420 K miles 1999 Mercedes-Benz 300d,$4,000

2022-03-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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[MBZ] OT who wants flame throwers?

2022-03-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Could put this in your hood stack and look like an old locomotive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYU7iVSsf5E -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yes, you used to be able to write off the difference on your taxes but can’t do that anymore. They don’t allow any claiming of miles for work unless it’s a schedule c. Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2022, at 6:41 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > It’s their choice. > > I

Re: [MBZ] Gas prices and when will they affect used car prices

2022-03-07 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
It’s their choice. I dealt with that when I was a field tech with the school system. Cheap bastards gave you two choices: Accept their paltry mileage reimbursement on a monthly basis, or just put in for it yourself with your taxes. I did both, which seemed to confuse them. I claimed the