[MBZ] CBC News : '3 Old Guys' — aged 65 and up — complete epic 8,000-km snowmobile ride from Minnesota to Alaska

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/3-old-guys-snowmobile-1.6809929

The sort of thing this august group would do 

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Re: [MBZ] Soon to be Son-in-Law Thinks He Wants a Tacoma

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am not pleased with the honda quality either.  Had Acura and honda sedans 
that were buzzy.  Strict need to service engines or they fail.  I was looking 
at the Pilot in 2019.  It was the right size for my needs, but quality, again, 
was just not there.  Pricy and not any better than a 1986 Astro van

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> On Jan 8, 2021, at 11:28 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Honda Ridgeline
> 
> I personally will never own another Honda. Overrated. Fatal transmission
> failures on both Hondas that I have owned.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Soon to be Son-in-Law Thinks He Wants a Tacoma

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Sedan as hauler is a good thing.  Best ever in my mind was the /8.  Trunk went 
on for miles and the rear seat bottom and back remove easy.  For a bit more 
room inside, the SDL was almost as roomy as a TD getting seats and bumpers back 
from the PnP.  Got a Silverado driver door hauled 250 miles to my cousin.

clay 

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> On Jan 8, 2021, at 10:39 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I might remind you too, that in a few shorts weeks tax refund season is here. 
> That along with some sort of $2k stimulus and perhaps some form of UBI is 
> going to push used car and truck prices into the stratosphere.
> 
> Buy now, if you can.
> 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Soon to be Son-in-Law Thinks He Wants a Tacoma

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Trucks are just stupid expensive.  Have been for years.

#1 boy is interested in the work truck he is using.  Company has contracted 
with decline in oil patch work, so there are many vehicles taking up space.  He 
uses a ten year old crew cab that was formerly supervisor/manager ride, so it 
is well appointed.  Diesel with big miles.  Not been thrashed, but also not 
getting maintained either.  The ask is over $20k.  Pretty much the same as 
getting a 15-20 year old smaller PU of the nissan or toyota flavor.  US iron is 
pretty thrashed and still expensive from private or used lot.

Clay


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> On Jan 8, 2021, at 9:43 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bob says:
> 
>> Holy crap used Toyota Tacoma‘s are expensive
> 
> They command a king's ransom, as do most pickup trucks right now. Small 
> trucks are in great demand. So are 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton. Shop, shop, and shop. 
> Expand your search and be ready to pounce at a moment's notice. There are 
> occasional deals, but they disappear VERY quickly. Consider alternative 
> makes, such as Ford Ranger, GMC Canyon, Honda Ridgeline, and Nissan Frontier. 
> Do the due diligence required to understand the potential failure points of 
> each particular make and model and what your tolerance for repairs is.
> 
> Also consider the "work truck" models may be less. Extended cabs, short beds, 
> and car like amenities make the vehicle more desirable to the general public. 
> A "work truck" Tundra would not be as desirable as a four door, so will be 
> priced less. I personally would be looking for one of those, when the time 
> comes, for the 8' bed and the capacity to properly pull a loaded car trailer.
> 
> That said, a relationship with a dealer that will buy a auction for you, 
> would be a plus. I'm not sure there is that big of a discount at auction 
> though.
> 
> Your future son in laws best bet may be to buy new, depending on how old a 
> used truck he is looking at.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Someone stole the catalytic converter so needs a catalytic converter and paint job

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am still trying to figure out who is fencing the bikes stolen by the 
homeless.  Who, in their right mind is purchasing the bike at all?  There are 
massive mountains of cycles in various stages of decomposition in the junkie 
camps, and what sort of Humpty Dumpty Franken ride is getting paid for?  I can 
see some cash out of the electro-bikes, as they get chopped into pedicab.  

I had a couple of bike cadavers left outside my house.  I tried to post them to 
Freecycle and got no response. Left them sitting upright in the parking strip 
for weeks, and nothing.  Put a $10 sign to sell, and they did not last the 
afternoon.

Mayhap, these converters and other “scrap” are being fenced to backyard 
refiners who smelt them?  Or are the bikes and other metals finding homes in 
backhaul containers for CCP to gather rare earth matter to sell back to 
industry.   That would not surprise me, nor would there be traffic of platinum 
parts headed south to be dealt with.  If they can get meth and coke over the 
border northbound, converters go south?

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> On Jan 7, 2021, at 12:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Same thing around here, as well as for scrap copper and AC condensers. They 
> want a driver’s license, they take your picture and get a thumbprint.
> 
> I had a spare set of aluminum wheels for one of the Focii, as the youngest 
> had bought some aftermarket wheels for his. I ended up scrapping them as they 
> had minimal street value. No problem doing it, but there’s no question they 
> would have been able to track me down after the fact had they needed to.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] Someone stole the catalytic converter so needs a catalytic converter and paint job

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Keep out of SEA.  There has been a rash of converter theft, to the point the 
cops no longer respond, just tell you where to purchase another one.  Next door 
neighbor’s prius has lost three since March.  Takes all of 90 seconds, right 
out side his bedroom window in front of the house.  First time on the street, 
next times in his driveway with the car touching the garage door in hopes of 
restricting access.

Best to just have a diesel.

Clay


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> On Jan 7, 2021, at 8:24 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't want to live in a neighborhood where even a catalytic converter
> isn't safe.

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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Railroad, post civil war.  The rail empire wanted a terminus and one was 
proposed in Port Townsend at the NE tip of the Olympic peninsula.  Opening of 
Puget sound, protected end of the Straits of Juan de Fuca.  Quick and super 
easy shipping port for global trade.  Great location for ships to head to 
Vancouver BC or Bellingham to also pick up timber.

Seattle was founded by a pack of settlers in 185x who wanted to exploit vast 
tracts of timber and brought women folk with them.  A schism of opposing 
logging families platted the town to their own purposes, at opposition to each 
other.  There were seven hills, just like Rome, and great dreams of unbridled 
power.  Toss in some of the excess migration from Oregon Trail, CA gold rush, 
and having Hudson Bay outpost on the Columbia thrown out and having to relocate 
above the 49th parallel.  It was pretty much a nowhere town of drunk loggers, 
hookers, some fishing interest, and had a developable protected bay.  But it 
took the trans continental railways to spark a boom.

Three options arose, Port Townsend - tip of access to the Pacific, Tacoma - 
very nice harbor and lots of lumber to export, but to the 30 miles south of 
Seattle.  Seattle - a protected bay but steep hills, except not in the lahar 
flow plain of Mt Rainier, which Tacoma is.  Insert bribes and standard 
political shenanigans.  Railroads chose the most “lucrative” option.

As for the buses sliding down icy hills…  The original builders, once the 
wooden city burnt down in 1887 or so, built a really spectacular urban 
transport light rail system.  Inter-Uban serviced a 90 mile corridor.   Cable 
cars to surmount said hills on the very rare occasions that a very cold/snow 
event would take place.  Most of the streets are actually laid out in harmony 
with topography, but for the steep inclines to actually summit and access the 
fairly flat area above.  GM buses killed that.  Cars and poor civic engineering 
put the nails in the coffin.  

Since freezing weather is very rare (mild climate and lots of large bodies of 
water surrounding) the most challenging driving environment is wet roads or 
when the sun comes out.   Change over from wet to sunny or reverse is mayhem on 
the roads.  Toss in the once or twice a decade snow shower, and there is no way 
people have a clue how to drive.  Akin to a snow event in ATL.  Except, there 
are mountain passes that need to be negotiated just 45 miles east on i-90.  
Nobody knows how to drive those either.  Turns into semi-truck pinball game 
when snowing.

Clay


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> On Jan 6, 2021, at 12:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2021-01-06 16:07, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> Given the options, I choose local climates where water does not
>> freeze, ever.  Where my wardrobe consists of tennis shorts, guayabera,
>> a hat at a rakish angle, and light footwear.  My current location has
>> made this crystal clear to my mind.
> 
> Whose idea was Seattle?
> I can remember watching videos on Youtube of cars/buses/fire equipment 
> sliding backwards down hills in Seattle, impacting whatever might happen to 
> be parked along the curb...
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Given the options, I choose local climates where water does not freeze, ever.  
Where my wardrobe consists of tennis shorts, guayabera, a hat at a rakish 
angle, and light footwear.  My current location has made this crystal clear to 
my mind.  



clay 

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> On Jan 6, 2021, at 6:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the other hand;No poisonous snakes, plenty of water for drinking, growing 
> things, and swimming in. No seriously poisonous insects. Good skiing, 
> snowmobiling, snowshoeing. Hard water fishing, although we haven't had enough 
> cold yet this year to get any serious ice.
> I've been to places that don't get snow, they're fun to visit but I wouldn't 
> want to live there...
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Nike Golf shoes?

clay 

“I think it’s time we stopped  our cringing embarrassment about our history, 
about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
01/09/2020

> On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Do they make those shoe spikes in my size, for walking in deep sunshine?
> 
> 
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2021 at 7:25 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment
>> system.  The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes
>> fully deploy.  Less cold and the traction devices retract into the softer
>> bottom.
>> 
>> I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to
>> rapid wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the thing
>> unseats in mid stride with strapping rips
>> 
>> 
>> ---
>> clay
>> 
>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what
>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice.
>> Using the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with my
>> normal stride.
>>> Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I had
>> to shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared tomorrow.
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The things are magically impactful.  Some sort of thermal deployment system.  
The colder it gets, the harder the soles and the metal spikes fully deploy.  
Less cold and the traction devices retract into the softer bottom.

I did try the strap on sort, but found them hard to mount and prone to rapid 
wear with extended dog walking.  It got interesting when the thing unseats in 
mid stride with strapping rips


---
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> On Jan 5, 2021, at 12:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Are the studs plastic? You really need metal studs for walking on ice. Using 
> the pair I referenced in my last message I scoot right along with my normal 
> stride.
> Since its only early winter here I had forgotten to deploy them so I had to 
> shuffle some on today's walk with Buster. I'll be more prepared tomorrow.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Falling on Ice

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://icebug.com/p/walkabout-m-bugrip-gtx-black 


Even in these I no longer have that confident stride.   It is akin to walking 
my Dad out to the car after chemo.  Little bitty baby step/shuffle

clay 

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> On Jan 5, 2021, at 11:51 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://www.amazon.com/s?k=ice+grips+for+shoes%2Fboots=3AFC5ZLV305QE=ice+grips%2Caps%2C187=nb_sb_ss_ts-a-p_1_9
> 
> Cheaper than broken bone repairs.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Why Poos is a stupid idiot

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I took a spill yesterday.  Today I learned that even if you clear and salt your 
driveway and it is very well below freezing, ice builds up.  Who would have 
figured condensation at -18C?  Three degree delta can make a tiny ice forest 
grow.



Clay


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> On Jan 5, 2021, at 9:03 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> In the 40s last night, 68F is going to be the high today. Quite nice and 
> seasonal for this time of the year. I had to go out at lunchtime and shovel 
> some sunshine, too.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] How to remove seats with no power

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That may work.  I always assume the door switch is non operational

Clay


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> On Jan 1, 2021, at 7:03 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should get one of those small jumper packs with some jumper wires. 
> Actually with one of those could probably just hook it up to the battery 
> terminals then use the switches to move the seat assuming switch is still in 
> place. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove seats with no power

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I had a rig that attached to the spare Dewalt battery for the sawzall.  Pull 
the wire harness and apply power to the proper posts to get a seat to rise, 
slide back or forward as needed.  Otherwise (before I figured that one out) I 
had to use a 10mm on a swivel socket and extension while barking knuckles.  The 
jumpers allow removal in five or so minutes instead of the hour or more to get 
two seats out.  It also is good to test functionality of seats so you do not 
waste time and pull a busted one.


Clay


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> On Jan 1, 2021, at 6:19 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have often wanted to remove some front seats out of w210 cars at the pnp 
> but how do you do it when there is no power to move the seats back and forth 
> to get to the bolts?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] question for young investor

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Oddly he does not seem to hold onto things for all that long.  SWMBA’s firm has 
sold him a number of client businesses.  Bershire Hathaway holds on just long 
enough to squeeze the jelly from their eyes, slather it on toast, and then 
divests at a profit.  Not small toys, but big boy products, from trains, to 
power companies, a few other large scale endeavors.   Must be nice to have that 
sort of scratch.

I like the buy and hold theory.  I may one day have enough to retire to a 
cardboard box in an alley.

Clay


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> On Jan 1, 2021, at 3:34 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's a great article.  Warren Buffet definitely knows investing.
> -
> Max

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Re: [MBZ] Fuel prices

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

ANS Crude Oil (12/16): $51.61 
Brent Crude Oil: $51.38 
WTI Crude Oil: : $48.28
Up from the mid $30 range of October.  No idea what the local pump price is, 
since I have not driven since early summer.  I do check TX fuel pricing, and it 
has risen by $0.20 since the election, to $1.63/gal

#1 boy who works in ND oil country is hearing that some of the fields are 
planning to open up over the next few months when prices will soar back over $60

clay 

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> On Dec 31, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Gas and diesel prices have sure been creeping up lately. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT 2020: It could have been WORSE!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Alaska has not yet recorded an influenza fatality.  There may have been one 
reported case of infection last week.  Completely unheard of

clay
 Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical 
minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the 
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the 
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> On Dec 30, 2020, at 8:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> But at least we had the worst pandemic in over >100 years with 350,000 
>> fatalities, and climbing.
> 
> 
> Thankfully, influenza has been nearly eradicated.
> 
> https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#ILIMap
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT 2020: It could have been WORSE!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Well that has turned into a complete fail.  San Antonio, TX is at 5C this 
morning. SEA is expecting severe winter storms for the coming week, an 
extension of the many cold and wet/snow storms since election day.  ANC has had 
a very healthy snow pack over the past two months with a bunch more on the way. 
 No decline in sea ice on the map.  Most of the weather world wide seems to be 
conforming to norms of the past 10k years.


clay 

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> On Dec 30, 2020, at 7:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/12/28/egg-on-their-faces-10-climate-alarmist-predictions-for-2020-that-went-horribly-wrong-n1289371
> 
> Long before Beto O’Rourke claimed the world only had 10 years left
> 
> for humans to act against climate change, alarmists had spent decades
> predicting one doomsday scenario after another, each of which stubbornly
> failed to materialize. It seems climate armageddon has taken a permanent
> sabbatical.
> 
> Many of those doomsday predictions specifically mentioned the annus
> horribilus of 2020. Those predictions also failed, some rather
> spectacularly.
> -
> Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Redistribution of Wealth

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

At least that allows the rest of us to see who the losers of the genetic 
lottery are.  Self identify as dead end branch of the human species.  They also 
tend to be the ones wandering the freeway at midnight prior to becoming 
attractant for Jaguars.  There have yet to be images of Tri-Star cars involved 
in the current silliness fad.  Makes you wonder.

Clay


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> On Dec 29, 2020, at 3:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well we are trying to repeal the laws of nature. Now you are not born male or 
> female, you can be neither, either, or none. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Redistribution of Wealth

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am getting hints from people in the old country that there are attempts to 
repeal the laws of physics.  They create an undue burden on the less fortunate. 
 That is not equitable.

Clay


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> On Dec 29, 2020, at 9:09 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> My point was to just bring up the bizarreness of the idea that repealing the 
>> castle doctrine helps redistribute wealth.
> 
> The same way as looting redistributes wealth. With no right to defend one's 
> self, everything is free.
> Now, those in Clay's old neck of the woods can't get insurance against such 
> things.
> 
> Actions have consequences.
> 
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Redistribution of Wealth

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The longer I live, the more I am thinking that the people who actually do 
something worthwhile and have a clue are just too busy to waste their lives and 
passion being elected.  The morons and ne’er do wells, on the other hand have 
nothing of value to contribute to the world and have the time to gather 
together and squabble about petty issues that end up causing vast harm to the 
population.

Best example is Alex O’cassional Cortex

clay 

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> On Dec 29, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> And, how the he** did she get elected?
> 
> RB
> 
> 
> On 29/12/2020 11:46 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> More importantly, I wonder what this representative has done to redistribute 
>> her wealth?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yea right. But with as many west coast folks moving in who knows. What if 
>>> the person breaking in does not want to rob you but wants to rape and 
>>> murder you? Are you just supposed to cooperate with being murdered or risk 
>>> getting sued? You can’t make this stuff up. We are doomed.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Dec 29, 2020, at 9:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 This is an interesting approach, especially in Texas:
 
 In Texas, State Representative Terry Meza (D-Irving) has introduced HB196. 
 Her bill would repeal the state's "castle doctrine." This doctrine allows 
 a homeowner to use deadly force against an armed intruder who breaks into 
 his home.
 
 
 
 Now listen to what she has to say...
 
 
 
 "I'm not saying that stealing is okay," Meza explained. "All I'm saying is 
 that it doesn't warrant a death penalty. Thieves only carry weapons for 
 self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate. 
 They just want to get their loot and getaway. When the resident tries to 
 resist is when people get hurt. If only one side is armed, fewer people 
 will be killed."
 
 
 
 Meza was quick to reassure that her bill "would not totally prevent 
 homeowners from defending themselves.
 
 "Under the new law, the homeowner's obligation is to flee the home at the 
 first sign of intrusion. If fleeing is not possible, he must cooperate 
 with the intruder. But if violence breaks out, it is the homeowner's 
 responsibility to make sure no one gets hurt. The best way to achieve this 
 is to use the minimum non-lethal force possible because intruders will be 
 able to sue for any injuries they receive at the hands of the homeowner."
 
 "In most instances, the thief needs the money more than the homeowner 
 does," Meza reasoned. "The homeowner's insurance will reimburse his 
 losses. On balance, the transfer of property is likely to lead to a more 
 equitable distribution of wealth. If my bill can help make this transfer a 
 peaceful one, so much, the better."
 
 
 
 https://www.ennisdailynews.com/news/state-rep-terry-meza-d-irving-files-house-bill-remove-castle-doctrine
  
 
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Redistribution of Wealth

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

German Jews will remember that the same “laws” were enacted for their benefit.

I read a story this morning about a church in Poland had been searching for 
it’s bell, taken by Nazis 75 years ago.  It turned up in the Munster abby, 
where it has been held since 1945.  It will eventually make it’s way back, but 
for some reason remains the “property” of Germany, which is going to “loan” it 
out.  

https://dailycaller.com/2020/12/29/church-bell-stolen-nazis-returned-poland-catholic/



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> On Dec 29, 2020, at 8:34 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea right. But with as many west coast folks moving in who knows. What if the 
> person breaking in does not want to rob you but wants to rape and murder you? 
> Are you just supposed to cooperate with being murdered or risk getting sued? 
> You can’t make this stuff up. We are doomed. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Redistribution of Wealth

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

What a loon!

Time for somebody to head over to her abode and help themselves to her worldly 
goods while well armed.  Be it garden tools or heavy weapons.

This is the logical disconnect taking place between the ears of women elected 
to office
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvA49N8RQx0=263s 


She calls 911 after voting to defund the cops for what will become a non crime 
under the statutes she is championing


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> On Dec 29, 2020, at 6:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is an interesting approach, especially in Texas:
> 
> In Texas, State Representative Terry Meza (D-Irving) has introduced HB196. 
> Her bill would repeal the state's "castle doctrine." This doctrine allows a 
> homeowner to use deadly force against an armed intruder who breaks into his 
> home.
> 
> 
> 
> Now listen to what she has to say... 
> 
> 
> 
> "I'm not saying that stealing is okay," Meza explained. "All I'm saying is 
> that it doesn't warrant a death penalty. Thieves only carry weapons for 
> self-protection and to provide the householder an incentive to cooperate. 
> They just want to get their loot and getaway. When the resident tries to 
> resist is when people get hurt. If only one side is armed, fewer people will 
> be killed."
> 
> 
> 
> Meza was quick to reassure that her bill "would not totally prevent 
> homeowners from defending themselves.
> 
> "Under the new law, the homeowner's obligation is to flee the home at the 
> first sign of intrusion. If fleeing is not possible, he must cooperate with 
> the intruder. But if violence breaks out, it is the homeowner's 
> responsibility to make sure no one gets hurt. The best way to achieve this is 
> to use the minimum non-lethal force possible because intruders will be able 
> to sue for any injuries they receive at the hands of the homeowner."
> 
> "In most instances, the thief needs the money more than the homeowner does," 
> Meza reasoned. "The homeowner's insurance will reimburse his losses. On 
> balance, the transfer of property is likely to lead to a more equitable 
> distribution of wealth. If my bill can help make this transfer a peaceful 
> one, so much, the better."
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.ennisdailynews.com/news/state-rep-terry-meza-d-irving-files-house-bill-remove-castle-doctrine
>  
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Re: [MBZ] Electric vehicles and wind power information

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

AK is packed with the rare earth stuff.  It was mined and refined vigorously 
during WWI and WWII.  Nobody is mining it now.  Since it is found with other 
things that are being mined, the ore (gold/platinum/copper) gets processed in 
Canada or in US, and the tailings/slag (which holds all those rare elements) 
gets shoveled onto slow boats to China, which refines the REA, and sells them 
back to us for big $$$.

Maybe when the China ore is played out, USA will bother to build a 
refining/smelting facility.  Our defenses depend heavily on these elements, far 
more than having self driving cars.

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> On Dec 25, 2020, at 7:53 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Perhaps of particular interest to Andrew
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88jpgxSRVZU

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Re: [MBZ] Only skinny dudes can have this

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Sadly, it all seems made of cheep chineesium, same as the current crop of cars

Clay


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> On Dec 24, 2020, at 8:43 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Once I get rid of this covid19 around my waist I could fit
> 
> https://lifestylecollection.mbusa.com/Product/1445249--
> 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] A quiz question for you

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

A case could be made for a class action suit against local governments who 
engage in the practice of forcing landlords to be unable to evict.  That smells 
very much of an illegal and unconstitutional takings.  Federal crime which 
heads to the SCOTUS.  It will take years to litigate, but that is ok, lots of 
damages and liquidation of useless social experimental programs can result.

Were I in the unenviable position to have a tenant in my SEA home, and no 
payment or rents, under the illegal mandate I can not evict this year.  Hmmm, 
Losses would be in the $36k range, not accounting for damages to the property 
itself.

The poor mensch with apartment complex must be seeing at least that much every 
month.  Hundreds and millions of $$$ lost due to “Summer of Love” idiocy and 
criminal stupidity.

Clay


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> On Dec 22, 2020, at 8:07 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-12-22 12:03, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>> On 21/12/2020 6:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> It’s amazing people are just handing their freedoms away daily to the point 
>>> now they government can not allow you to manage the own property that you 
>>> have paid for. If they are going to require owners to keep tenants who are 
>>> not paying then the government should be paying their rent.  The government 
>>> should also be paying for any damages that occur.
>> I trust you are aware that the "government money" comes from the
>> citizen taxpayers. How much more are you personally willing to
>> contribute by way of taxes to pay for these programs where the
>> government pays rent for people etc?
> 
> I think Kleb would rather be able to evict non-paying vandals from his house, 
> but if gov't is going to take his house and donate it to the vandals, he 
> wants gov't to buy the house first.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Vaccine tech

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Socialized will just create a bog of shoddy treatment centers to run out the 
meter on coverage.  Better to have actuary pencil out numbers and then cause 
the expensive treatments mandated as riders to the main policy.  You get the 
basic level of OsamasCare ACA lead, silver, gold.  Pick the disease you are 
will to bet you will get, and pay for each malady.  Much like home insurance 
and flood/earthquake/wildfire/BLM movements.   Be able to cover your heart, 
lungs, brain, for cancer, pneumonia, government incompetence and over reach.  
One added line item at a time.  Think of it as towing insurance for your butt 
or something.

Then you will see changes in how the health system is run.  No money in chasing 
illness that has no profits.  Which makes it devolve onto well meaning 
billionaire to just whip out a check book to cure cancer because it killed his 
mama, or brain cancer, because he has sold people on home delivery of cheap 
garbage chinese crap.  Got to be brain damaged to fall for that spiel.

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> On Dec 22, 2020, at 7:57 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Socialized medicine will take the profit away from cancer treatment and we
> will instantly get cures.

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Re: [MBZ] A quiz question for you

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

It now falls on insurance companies to keep landlords whole.  I am sure the 
rent free tenants are not keeping the residences in good condition.   I could 
not find paying ones capable of maintaining the homes in livable conditions.  
Some Hebrew Lightning will descend from the heavens and cleanse the abodes of 
resident and filth in one stroke.  Standard policy then covers that loss, 
landlord has funds and bare land that can be redeveloped to a higher standard 
and sold off when the markets rebound.

Of course the renters will be found to have been crackhead drug smokers or 
imbeciles unlearned in how to operate heating equipment for food and warming

Clay


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> On Dec 21, 2020, at 9:30 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "If they are going to require owners to keep tenants who are not paying then 
> the government should be paying their rent.  The government should also be 
> paying for any damages that occur."
> 
> Isn't it interesting that state governors (not the feds) mandated these 
> lockdowns but those states are all broke and can't print money.  I don't 
> think the treasury (i.e. us) should be paying for this stupidity any more 
> than for the state's other unfunded obligations.  In fact, clowns like Cuomo 
> and DeBlasio should sued be held personally responsible for the damage. 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

For months on end AK crowed about all the empty beds.  It was some sort of 
virtue signal that capacity was wide open and beds were going begging.  Now, 
there is not a spare bedpan or folding cot without people lined up for it.  It 
is to the point that medivac to SEA is no longer happening, since those 
hospitals are at capacity.  Somebody is getting very wealthy off the sick an 
dying.

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> On Dec 21, 2020, at 10:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My understanding of the hospital bed "shortage" is that hospitals are
> businesses, and having an empty bed "just because" is a money losing
> proposition.  Thus the number of available beds is set based on demand and
> forecasted demand.  Chicken Little crying about the sky is falling because
> hospital beds are nearly full / nearly at capacity is deceptive
> fear-mongering.  When the demand exists, hospitals will meet it.  Back at
> the start of this panic, the US. Navy hospital ships were mobilized, one to
> each coast, and they were not used to treat Wuhan Red Death patients.  That
> would be a money losing proposition for the hospitals, so no one should be
> surprised.
> -

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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Short term success in this plague is no measure of long term effectiveness.  

There are small victories that have not withstood the test of time.  Kauai, HI 
shut itself off for seven months and now is being hard hit by infections.  AK 
also thought it had a handle, but that early control was shown to be immune to 
the reality of disease spread.  New Zealand also though they had mastered it, 
but keeps getting hit while being sealed off from the world.  And the list of 
places that followed the narrative of plague control are now hotbeds.  

The West Coast is full of sheeple who would willingly follow mandates and 
narrative.  Yet that willingness to isolate and mask has not translated into a 
reduction.  Medical centers are filled to the gills.  Maybe the agenda would 
have been more effective had historical data been used to plan for the 
inevitable secondary and tertiary waves that would truly tax and be greater yet 
than initial contagion.  The public was shown those trends as they were trotted 
out by talking heads and officials as a means to convince the populace that 
such as thing as “flatten the curve”.  Which really just meant to prolong the 
disease until an effective response could be mustered.  

Today we are witnessing just what a sham the flat curve was.  Nobody seems to 
have bulked up a response to better handle the coming surge.  Where are the 
bigger treatment centers and beds?  Who has all the N95 masking, gloves, gowns 
that the current wave requires?  How many of the laid off medical staff are 
being repurposed to care for both the infected as well as those requiring 
normal care?   The disease has been kept at a simmer… low and slow.  That seems 
to point to an effort to keep it a crisis, not to effectuate a reliable 
treatment or cure.

Now the discussion is how to triage.  Since the pooch was screwed, we will now 
be looking at providing treatment for those who can be saved instead of the 
heroics for all methods used over the last ten months.  Today, doctors and 
administrators really are deciding whose Granny gets to live and who they will 
be sending to the morgue.  An acceptance of the reality of lacking required 
resources, proper treatments, true dimensions of the transmission, and hubris 
those in charge are guilty of.  May have been more realistic to have allowed 
the thing to burn out and achieve herd immunity naturally.  That is what 
happens in Africa with Ebola, no matter how much prancing around WHO/UN/MSF and 
the Gates Foundation did.

It will be decades before there is enough verifiable data to show what really 
was effective and what was tissue paper dreams.  Just like medical proclamation 
of the magic of radiation treatments has turned out to have been a lethal dose 
of false narratives.  From Marie Curie on, and that is just one example of 
modern doctors and medical professionals getting things oh, so, very wrong.  
Diet pills, pain pills, early government endorsed treatments for HIV/AIDS 
turned out to be damaging, ineffective, or outright toxic and became public 
health embarrassments.   All that Oxy pushed by doctors could well be the root 
cause of the homeless crisis.   FDA and CDC endorsed the use.  Look how right 
they got this crisis.  Or, lets ban and not allow research into THC, which is 
very effective in treatment of many health issues.  Helps with side effects of 
chemo, ophthalmic issues, and might even assist in breaking fatal outcomes in 
opioids laces with fentanyl.  (Currently being investigated in BC Canada)  

There are no simple or easy solutions.  There are no political personages who 
were not chasing their own tails on this.  Because those supposed to be 
“enlightened” and medically trained or establishment endorsed speaking heads 
could not provide a reliable or consistent message from the start, and kept on 
vacillating if not daily then on a weekly basis.  Hard to hit a target spun out 
of control by the people you are supposed to trust on the issue.

Clay


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> On Dec 19, 2020, at 7:34 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is a reasonable question. I tend to think that had they been allowed
> to do what they wanted to do, based upon their expertise in this area,
> rather than being micromanaged at every turn by people with no formal
> training in medicine, public health, or any other form of scientific
> endeavor, that things would have been very different in terms of the course
> of this epidemic and its magnitude. We have lots of examples of countries
> that had a strong centralized government response, and did far better than
> we have in terms of deaths per 100k.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids vax

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Though there may be one or two credible article they publish, that is far 
outweighed by the preponderance of highly biased and corrupt reporting 
throughout their rag.  As a person who subscribes and reads any of the legacy 
media broadsheets or magazines regularly will come to realize, there is a 
taint, a slant and management of messaging within the pages.  The same yellow 
journalism is found broadcast daily.

Some choose to drink that Kool-Aid.  I fully understand how messaging results 
in horrors.  Dad got called out to assist with the debacle of November 1978 in 
Guyana while stationed in Caracas.  He came back from that a very different 
person and spoke rarely of it.  What he did say was not to believe what those 
in charge are telling you.  Narratives and the truth are not the same.  Living 
in Venezuela served well to re-enforce his warnings.  All is not as it seems, 
and the press is a tool for populace control.

YMMV.  

Clay


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> On Dec 19, 2020, at 7:25 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I take my news where I find it. Are you disputing the facts in the article?
> Seems like direct quotes from the people involved should be pretty reliable.
> 
> They are called logicall fallacies for a reason - they are fallacies. In
> other words, it does not follow that because some things in the NYT are not
> true, that all things in the NYT are not true. This one is known as the ad
> hominem attack, where instead of refuting any facts, someone tries to
> discredit an article because a certain person wrote it, or it was published
> in a certain periodical.
> 
> https://kreativcopywriting.com/10-logical-fallacies-know-spot/
> 
> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020, 7:04 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <

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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am not paying that close of attention to the circus.  White folks so far, as 
the natives are not online for shots yet.  The ANC retirement home will be 
getting injected this day.  No report on how it impacts a gerontologic group.

Clay


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> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Clay Monroe via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> AK has had 1 in 250 severe reactions to this inoculation.
> 
> Is that among indigineous people or non-natives?
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

GWN is scraping the dregs from the vials to gather a few more doses.  Since it 
is not easy to store, I guess they are hoping to service enough before the 
thing goes off.  There is also the trouble of not being able to get it to 
outlying villages before it goes off, since each case needs to get split into 
50 or 100 dose batches.

Andrew can have my doses.

Clay


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> On Dec 18, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would call your doc and tell him/her you want the vax, to call you when 
> they get some
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 12/18/20 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
>> receive the coronavirus vaccine.
>> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

AK has had 1 in 250 severe reactions to this inoculation.  Not the 
astronomically comic 1 in a million the legacy media and Kool-Aid Corps tout.  
And this was in young and healthy population of medical workers.  Not a million 
mile Benz, more akin to a soap box racer


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> On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nurse Collapses on Live Television shortly after receiving COVID-19 VACCINE
> https://youtu.be/Wrp4w0OQmAQ
> 
> How long until the tech overlords ban this one?
> -
> Max

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Statins

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

It was sort of a running joke that Dad would outlive us all.  He came from a 
mix of very hearty and very prone to heart disease stock.  Had he taken after 
his mother’s side, he would have died before retirement.  As it was, his 
father’s genetics tended toward outliving your mental capabilities.  So, he 
muddled through massive coronary issues and other health trouble from Viet Nam 
toxics.

What did him in was not the cancer, but the imbecile chinese breast cancer gal 
who had no clue how to handle gerontologic patients.   Complete medical 
incompetence that garnered the attention of the hospital and oncology 
departments, which chastised her.  That was four months into neglecting to 
implement common standards of care in his treatment.

Mom is still going strong at 91.  Out in the rain pulling weeds in her garden 
this past week.



Clay


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> On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sadly, there are bad doctors as well as bad mechanics
> 
> Sorry to hear about your dad Clay.  My mom is hanging in there at 97, still 
> sharp but failing physically.  My father died six months after a bad heart 
> attack in 1976.
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Re: [MBZ] Jeremy Clarkson test drives a Tesla model X

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Very enjoyable.  He has a baking series also.

Clay


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> On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> "Man Lab" is another good James May show, its available on Amazon prime 
> video. Its not "Wuthering Heights" but a fun, light little show.
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Statins

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Even if attention is paid, sometimes the medico fails to explain just what is 
going on.  

Dad had multiple visits to the poop scope folks, history of cancers, and all he 
knew was that there was a benign adenoma in his duodena.  Procto-idiot just 
shared that, and let it fester.  For years.  Even gave him more colonoscopy.  
Then, Dad feels horrid and thinks it is the Warfarin he is taking for clots 
that has made his tummy unhappy.  Lots of vomit and weight loss, he gets an 
ambulance ride and finds out he had stage four gut rot.  Died six months later. 
 He would have been 93 this weekend.



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> On Dec 17, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Colonoscopy cures colon cancer, since it's almost aways very slow growing.  I 
> had two pre-cancerous polyps removed during my first one -- had I not had it, 
> in ten or fifteen years I would likely have gotten serious colon cancer.  
> Removal of the pre-cancerous polyps removes the origin of eventual cancer -- 
> cheap cure.
> 
> Until a tumor is large enough to affect the water balance in the colon (they 
> tend to leak) or obstructs the bowel, there are usually no symptoms, and by 
> the time symptoms appear, it's inoperable.  Killed a good friend on mine in 
> Canada in 1994.  No colonoscopy in those days, and certainly not for someone 
> 35 years old with no family history.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A quiz question for you

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Drat!

Same sort of thing at my home.   I get bills bi-monthly for water/garbage.  
Last time I used water was 12/27/2019 in SEA.  Got the bill for September and 
it shows massive water usage and $180 bill.  Had my neighbor take a walk 
through to see if he found flowing water or anything out of the ordinary.  He 
reports nothing obvious.  Last time I had water usage like that, it was a VERY 
dry summer and I watered the garden, had kids taking showers galore, washing 
four cars, and being teens, having to do loads of wash.  Gave the municipality 
a call and they claim stupidity, but will hold it in abeyance until the next 
reading.  Most recent bill showed even more usage, to the point I am thinking 
the line from the meter to the home has failed and is washing away the 
foundations.  Neighbor once more finds nothing, but does note that there is 
half consumed food and soda in the kitchen, which he had not noticed on his 
many previous visits to raid my tool cupboard.  

SQUATTERS!?

He does another walk through a few days later and still finds no obvious water 
consumers running wild.  Figure it was time to get a real plumber in to see 
about that main line.  They show up yesterday and wander the home.  Turns out 
it was a busted valve on the master throne, as well as worn flapper and float 
causing chronic, but inaudible, consumption.  Total cost = $1k in repair and 
billing.  And I am still not able to get out of GWN and home until summer.

clay 

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> On Dec 17, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yep.  The water company called this morning saying they were out reading 
> meters and noticed we must have a huge leak or something because there was 
> 90k usage this past month.  The renter has been out of town since the 5th for 
> training and we figure the moron must have turned the heat off and caused the 
> pipes to freeze.  I get there expecting to open the front door and all the 
> furniture comes rushing out with flood waters.  Do not see anything wrong so 
> I turn water back on.  One of the toilets is running.  Apparently the handle 
> somehow stuck up and did not close the flapper.  Its as been running full 
> blast since then.  I flushed it 10 times and it never stuck so it was just a 
> fluke.  Just one of those things that happens sometimes.  Anyway, yes the 
> bill is their problem and the bill is almost $700.  I would not be surprised 
> if the septic tank will now need to be pumped.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Statins

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Since I know how to cook and remain poor (in my mind, at least), I do not 
regularly partake of commercial food purveyors.  I have noted that portion 
sizes have become Brobdingnagian recently.  I made three meals out of the trip 
to a sit down place in 2019.  As for fast food, I do get cravings every few 
years.  Drive through and grab a “meal”, consume it, then spend the next day or 
so recalling why I do not consort with fast food.  That sort of hotdog belch, 
nasty taste in the mouth, ball of tape worms wrestling, water closet tempest 
events.  So very off putting, that it keeps my custom from those shops, until 
memory fades again.


clay 

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> On Dec 17, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Andrew inquires:
> 
>> Is there any health risk to NEVER eating at a fast food restaurant?
> 
> 
> Starvation perhaps. It seems that in recent years the art of home cooking has 
> become a lost art.
> 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Statins

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Fresh baked bread and bacon drippings

clay 

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> On Dec 17, 2020, at 12:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> I remember hearing an interview with a foodie one time who mentioned being at 
> some fancy food to-do where they were serving lard on toast. He was disgusted 
> by the idea until his buddy said "Why? Its basically the same as butter." 
> Which it kind of is...
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Read the book as well.

Same sort of short sighted hysteria that drives purchasing “health” foods and 
trend of the month eating fad.  The marketing solution in search of a problem 
with gluten, keto, vegan, organic, fair trade, green and clean energy.  Causes 
more problems and makes people ill.

Clay


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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Have you ever seen the movie I am Legend?  The vaccine was the cause of the 
> zombie apocalypse.


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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Wholeheartedly agree with that judgement.

Clay


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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 2:27 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is no reason to buy a modern car either.

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Re: [MBZ] 5g speeds

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Just wait until spring when there are three or four to chose from.  That way 
you will know which pokes are full of “features”.   Try a cocktail of them all, 
just to be on the safe side.  Want to make sure you get all the CCP goodness 
with the Heweee 5G routers, chemtrails, and Fang Bang side impacts

Clay


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> On Dec 15, 2020, at 2:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea, well I’m watching the local news about how they starting giving out the 
> vaccine today in Tulsa. I just don’t get the risk of rushing to try something 
> that is basically untested for a virus that has a 99.x recovery rate. 


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Re: [MBZ] Latest addition to Okie Acres

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I have a nice 3500sqft lot in SEA that rings in at the same as this compound.  
Probably need to be looking much further south for depleted mining grounds on 
which to establish Rancho Clay

clay 

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> On Dec 12, 2020, at 11:11 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Looked into this guy a little more by looking up the tax records on his 
> place.  This house of his is 8500 sqft with 6 bedrooms 5.5 baths.  Last owner 
> of the land was a mining company.  Looks like he got the land cheap.  However 
> the accessed value on his vast estate is 1.2 million, he pays close to $14k a 
> year in property taxes.  I guess in other parts of the country that amount 
> would buy you a small 1500sqft house on a city lot.
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Re: [MBZ] Latest addition to Okie Acres

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Good purchase

clay 

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> On Dec 12, 2020, at 10:32 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The vehicle below popped up this morning so I messaged the guy and went to 
> look at it. Supposedly ran with parked but won’t go into gear. When I arrive 
> the dude has a massive estate sitting on 130 acres. He has what I could 
> consider to be close to a mansion for a house. Very very large house. This 
> happened to be right next door to where my ex wife’s family used to live so I 
> am very familiar with the area. This area is full of old strip mining coal 
> pits and in fact the land he has used the be the county dump for many many 
> many decades. I think they quit using it in the early to mid 80’s then 
> covered it over with dirt and years later this guy bought it and built his 
> mansion. I did not mention the fact that his place has decades of buried 
> trash under it, surely he knows. In case he didn’t I did not want to stir up 
> something. Anyway on to the car. Looks decent but does have some rust (see 
> photos). We threw a battery in it and it started right up. Clutch pedal feels 
> normal but it won’t go into gear at all. With engine off it seemed to go into 
> gear. Got it loaded up on the trailer and brought it home. Fired it up and I 
> will be damned if it doesn’t go into gear now just fine. Pulled it off the 
> trailer and took it out. Shifts fine thru the gears. Noticed temp started 
> creeping up so got it home. Radiator appears to be low. I also noticed a 
> fairly good leak out of the heater valve so I guess that needs to be 
> replaced. Has a good oil leak out of the valve cover gasket. 
> 
> Will probably go thru and do a full service on it, clean it up and get it 
> flipped fairly soon. Upon further inspection it appears the rust is worse 
> than I thought. I noticed all along the passenger side at what I assume is 
> the seam along the floor panels is rusting with the undercoating peeling 
> back. Figure I can still flip it for $2k or so. 
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/204847997905019/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Dash Cam Memory Cards

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Same.

Back in the day, I would get old Flash PCMCIA cards from the bay of fleas, for 
use in my Newtons.  The cards were near MTBF on read/write cycles, but the 
handheld was not going to tax them in any manner.  Most came out of Cisco 
servers.  Not a one failed me.  There was usage in iPods, which had massive 
usage cycles and those seemed to be of lesser quality, with a shorter MTBF.

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> On Dec 12, 2020, at 6:21 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> Who knew? Thanks for sharing ...
> 
> I did.  Flash memory is NOT 'for the ages'.  Not if you're actively using it.
> 
> http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/flash.html 
> 
> 
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] A Not So Good Stealership Service Experience With Der DoodleWagen

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Contact MBUSA and fill out the dealer assessment (they usually send you one).  
I made sure MBUSA knew of quality issues with work done at the stealer.

Clay


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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 3:40 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello Benzers. Yesterday was Lutgart’s turn to get her yearly oil change and 
> address the three recalls. This also included the A service which comprised 
> oel/filter, fuel filter change, inspection and tire pressure check. Today, 
> after waiting well over an hour for pickup, we headed home. As we were slowly 
> trekking down the freeway in the rain at 40MPH, I consulted her for a fuel 
> economy check revealing only 9.8MPG! WOW! Since the fuel filter was changed, 
> I knew that the low mileage was due to a leak that must be pretty severe 
> since that is well less than half the normal fuel economy. Arriving home, 
> there was a strong Diesel smell around the front of the van. Also, the real 
> time display showed that the right front tire pressure was low and showing a 
> hotter tire temp than the others. This is after PROFESSIONALS serviced my 
> van! If I knew the location and procedure for replacing the fuel filter, I 
> would have been servicing my own vehicle! As the saying goes, the only 
> way to fix it right is to FIX IT YOURSELF! I’m going to try to not only get 
> the service for free, but also have them top off my fuel tank as well.
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter van 12 passenger 144WB 1717 miles, Low Mileage Lutgart
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

NYMEX Natural Gas: $2.57 
Cook Inlet Natural Gas (9/15): $7.74
If the gas line would get built, all the North Slope gas would flow like water 
for pennies…. in to LNG ships hauling to Nippon and South Korea.  Since the gas 
is VERBOTEN in Greenie Weenie land, no market there.

Clay


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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 2:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Most people have NatGas available and use it.
> The rest of us, we mostly use Propane in the Great Lakes, while there's still 
> a lot of oil in New England.
> 
> Propane markets seem somewhat independent of crude oil prices.
> My new vendor was $0.92 back in January, so I was really looking forward to 
> the summer price bottom. So, what did I pay in August? $0.95 plus tax.
> I'm the guy who owns my own tanks and doesn't have the cost of the tank baked 
> into my propane pricing. But this was a cheap year for tank renters too, my 
> Mom's winter contract is fixed at 1.399.

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Re: [MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

SEA had a healthy enough oil market that when BioD came along, there was a mass 
attempt to procure that market.  That was the peak (2005?) and tanks have been 
yanked like dandelions from a putting green.

No market in AK, as the stuff is solid at winter temps

Clay


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> On Dec 11, 2020, at 2:11 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The market is probably speculating that with vaccines starting to roll
> out that travel (and fuel use) will be starting to pick up again.
> 
> Also January would be peak season for use of heating oil? Not sure
> whether enough people still heat with oil for that to be a big
> factor. Last time I talked with my furnace guy, he said there's like two
> people in my area that know anything about oil furnances, but oil was
> never big in this area. Around here, the oldest homes originally used
> coal, and they all moved to natural gas.
> 
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[MBZ] Open your Wallet to fill up

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://www.bloomberg.com/energy 

Barrel of oil is heading past $50 this week.  That is a $10 rise since the end 
of October, when it was just barely in the mid to high $30’s.  This is for 
delivery in late Jan/Feb 2021.  That is speculating that all the unemployed, 
who sold their cars to pay rent and feed family will be out driving around this 
spring.

I have not had my Mercedes out in almost a year.  The other cars in the house 
have been put on battery tender, since they are not on the road much.  And the 
snowbirds around here are parked under tarps, so the demand for RV fuel is not 
in this forecast.  About the only increased demand from GWM is in JetA for 
cargo flights.

Anybody other than Kaleb flying?  SWMBA is down by almost 50k this year on her 
miles account.  All the conferences this year were canceled or zoomed, same 
with the 2021 season.

I guess, once I do get Frosch out of the garage, I will need to burn a tank of 
no alcohol fuel and fill up so I can sell her.

clay monroe

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2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

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1986 SDL- Polei
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Das Blei - Lead Sled
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life against a dame in a SUV
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Re: [MBZ] Flying today

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

With all the draconian mandates and the plague of rats/tattles, there should be 
absolutely no infections because everybody is masked up.  Only place you could 
be infected would be your own home, except if the mandates demands you mask 
while in your own property boundaries as well.

Anchorage mayor stand-in is a mask nazi herself.  Oddly, she took a tranche of 
tests (three negatives before the desired positive) then decided to exile at 
home with her MD wife.  Must have been the wife stepped out?  Banged a nurse?


Clay


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> On Dec 7, 2020, at 6:32 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'm starting to doubt that masks really prevent spread, it seems more likely 
> that summertime, or maybe summertime behaviors prevent spread. The places I 
> go, which admittedly isn't all that often, people seem to be pretty much 
> wearing them. You see a few not wearing or with their nose hanging out but 
> they're definitely in the minority, yet the number of cases keeps rising.
> I notice 5% of the population of the USA is known to have contracted COVID, 
> so presumably 10% or more have actually had it...
> 
> *yawn*
> -Curt
> 
> 
>On Monday, December 7, 2020, 10:23:33 AM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Masks are a joke. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> We were flying back from Texas yesterday and I noticed the very same thing. 
>> I think I was one of about maybe a dozen people with their shade up. And, 
>> the flight from Dallas to Phoenix was FULL. There were many people on the 
>> flight who spent the entire two plus hour flight with a tiny bag of chips in 
>> their hands, chomping on one little broken chip fragment every twenty 
>> minutes or so, pretending to be eating so they didn’t have to have their 
>> masks on. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2020, at 7:22 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I am currently on a flight today and have noticed something that I have 
>>> actually been noticing for a while. It seems like 90-95% of people on 
>>> planes these days keep the window shade closed. I guess they would rather 
>>> stare at their electronic boxes that look at the passing scenery as they 
>>> fly over. I flu frequently but I still like to look out the window most of 
>>> the whole trip. I remember years ago when it was rare to see a window shade 
>>> down. 
>>> 
>>> Another big annoyance. When on a night flight, it is dark, you are looking 
>>> at the lights below or enjoying the dark and it never fails the idiot next 
>>> to you has to turn on his light and blind you. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cars kill fish

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

NOAA finally did a study to learn why the salmon seemed to have crashed and if 
all the Columbia river and Snake dams were the cause.  Same theory with the 
Rouge river as well.

Turned out that the populations were declining because there were too many wild 
salmon getting caught commercially and the response (normal for intense 
predation) was for more smaller and younger fish reproducing, creating more 
small fish, that were easier for sea lions to catch.  

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> On Dec 5, 2020, at 7:01 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I used to catch them with my mom's dad in Oregon, until the population
> crashed and they shut the sport fishery down. So we have been speculating
> about why that happened in my family for 30 years or so.
> 
> If this is true, it is fantastic news for fishermen.
> 
> Now if only we can figure out what random chemical is killing all the
> bees...
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 5:01 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Yes the right question to ask
>> 
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020, 7:32 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> How is poisonous tire residue liberal? Non-sequitur.  They just need to
>>> either find a different chemical to delay the inevitable hardening of the
>>> rubber or let the tires dry rot sooner - that is if you want to have
>> salmon
>>> to eat (as I do). Or, you could cover all the roads to keep the rain off
>>> them.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 4:12 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/tire-dust-is-killing-salmon/
>>>> <
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/tire-dust-is-killing-salmon/
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Liberal hysteria runs rampant.  Now being in a car is implicated in
>> mass
>>>> anadromous murder.  So, we will not be allowed to drive a car or have
>>>> trucks ship our products.  Bikes will be on the chopping block next.
>>> When
>>>> we are down to shanks mare and shoe leather, maybe fishies can eat
>> sole.
>>>> Not chinese rubber bottom shoes, but real dead cows.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe the fisheries people will mandate masks for salmon?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Clay
>>>> 
>>>> 
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>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>>> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] Cars kill fish

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

It has more to do with Seattle being a liberal nut zone where panic and 
hysteria about any manner of perceived threat to wildlife and human activities 
must be persecuted with Greenpeace level zeal.  
There was massive outcry a few years ago that people were peeing too much 
caffeine into Puget Sound and they should close down the Starbucks and tax any 
form of coffee and sodas.  Another crisis was the stormwater run-off sending 
auto fluid excretions into the water.  Not much mention that their sewage 
system is antiquated and spills fresh feces into rivers, lakes and dumps right 
into Orca pods.  The county is in charge of waste water, so they get a pass on 
reporting, but citizens are harming the owls and darter snails.

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> On Dec 5, 2020, at 3:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> How is poisonous tire residue liberal? Non-sequitur.  They just need to
> either find a different chemical to delay the inevitable hardening of the
> rubber or let the tires dry rot sooner - that is if you want to have salmon
> to eat (as I do). Or, you could cover all the roads to keep the rain off
> them.
> 
> On Sat, Dec 5, 2020 at 4:12 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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[MBZ] Three Flavors of Hydrogen?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/hydrogen-energy-alberta-ontario-1.5828216
 


I found this interesting.  The cost of hydrogen for fuel is excessive if it 
really tries to have an impact on carbon emission.  The way it is produced for 
the dirty H runs dimes to a dollar, the mid grade can be processed for a buck 
or two.  The Green gas is in the $5 range.  That is some real get woke go broke 
fuel.  Which would you be putting into your Ballard fuel cell B class?


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[MBZ] Cars kill fish

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/tire-dust-is-killing-salmon/
 


Liberal hysteria runs rampant.  Now being in a car is implicated in mass 
anadromous murder.  So, we will not be allowed to drive a car or have trucks 
ship our products.  Bikes will be on the chopping block next.  When we are down 
to shanks mare and shoe leather, maybe fishies can eat sole.  Not chinese 
rubber bottom shoes, but real dead cows.

Maybe the fisheries people will mandate masks for salmon?


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[MBZ] Remote Theft

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Yet another example of why a classic car is my choice for daily driving.  Not 
that I am on the road much this year.  



https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/ibc-most-stolen-cars-list-1.5824794 




clay 

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about our traditions, and about our culture, and we stop this general bout of 
self-recrimination and wetness.”

B. Johnson
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I love this bike

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Those things are expensive.  SEA neighbor got one last Autumn.  Loved riding 
it.  WRD struck, his Priapus got the catastrophic converter swiped thrice this 
year, and some hobo absconded with is bike while he was at the park.

Local SEA news channel had an in depth report on the illicit markets the 
vagabonds have.  From the video, plug in bikes (any bike) were big sellers.  
Seems the tent dwellers do not face the same draconian restrictions on 
conducting business that tax paying retailers do.



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> On Dec 4, 2020, at 12:10 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> I don't know why, but I entered this thread expecting an electrically 
> assisted pedal bike, which seem to be all the rage among those of a certain 
> age (Sammich loves his).
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Exact description of the Korean College exams that are being seated this week.  
Lots of complaints that the physical accommodations are horrid and impacts to 
future success are being damaged by Plexiglas panels, masking, cyber stalking 
recording and locked down computers.  

Not sure, sounds terrible to me.  But then having everything about your future 
life depend upon some entrance exam is pretty bad to my mind

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> On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:48 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> For the online exams, you have to install and use a "lockdown browser"
> which takes over your computer and prevents you from accessing any other
> applications or unapproved websites.
> 
> Your camera and microphone is used to verify that nobody else is in the
> room helping you, and supposedly also to catch if you are using a
> calculator, a separate computer, looking at notes or books if not
> permitted, etc.
> 
> You have to submit a 360 camera view of the room to show what is on your
> desk and that there are no other screens or computers.
> 
> All very Orwellian. I get that cheating is a thing, but a determined
> cheater is going to cheat. At some point it's a cost of doing business
> and trying to prevent it puts too much burden on the majority of people
> who are (mostly) honest.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> I’ve heard that our certification authorities are doing stuff like this so 
>> they can still have people testing for certs. I’m curious as to how they do 
>> it…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 3:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The next thing is using the camera and screenshots to verify that you
>>> are sitting at the computer and actually working on work stuff. Similar
>>> stuff is being done for students taking online exams, to try to detect
>>> cheating.
>>> 
>>> Yeah I would not work under those conditions. Also since I use an
>>> obscure OS at home, none of that would work on my computer.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>>> 
 Agreed.
 
 Just as there are app developers out there who have come up with apps
 that “twitch” your mouse every few minutes, too.
 
 -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are -- now remote work

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Trousers

For me it was home is where the trousers are not worn.  Work required I look 
human and behave human.

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looking for didn't fall out.




> On Dec 4, 2020, at 8:29 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was teleworking full time before I retired this summer and as you said,
> missed the daily interactions with other humans.  I also found that working
> from home meant LONGER hours, since I had no reason to log out and there
> was always a new email to open, which often kept me well beyond 8 hours.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 12:03 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I would agree with this. I have a team that I work with, two of which are
>> younger people about 20 years my junior, and one who is a few years older
>> than me. We all get along well and have a lot of common interests, so the
>> social interaction was definitely a part of the work day. I definitely miss
>> that aspect of work.
>> 
>> The other aspect that hasn’t been mentioned here is what I would describe
>> as a “separation of duties”, although that’s not the ideal description.
>> 
>> I’m talking about the distinct delineation of “work” versus “home”. That
>> is, when I leave work, I’m done for the day both mentally and physically.
>> That’s not the case when you’re working from home. This is probably the big
>> negative for me when it comes to working from home. I like the physical
>> separation between the two environments.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2020, at 11:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I realized when I was at Lotus that I was working mostly with people who
>> were not in my office so it really didn't matter much where I was.  Instead
>> of fighting traffic at 830 I would drop the kids at school, go home and
>> work for a coupla hours, make phone calls, emails, work on computer stuff,
>> whatever.  Then I would head into the office for the afternoon and if I
>> needed to meet with anyone I could do that.  I got more done at home
>> without the distractions, and dealing with colleagues in England or Europe
>> was fine from home.  It was a really nice sorta hybrid scheme. Working
>> always from home got to be old, even though I got more done and it was
>> relaxing and flexible, I missed the social interactions, random drop-in
>> discussions, and serendipitous ideas that popped up being around other
>> people and seeing them in the cafeteria or hallways.  It was just easier in
>> a lot of ways to get a job done being around others, at least for some
>> things.
>>> 
>>> IBM went to a remote work environment back in the late 90s, got rid of a
>> lot of office space but still had some for meetings/conf rooms and hot
>> desking if you needed to be somewhere with those resources.  Most of the
>> people were always traveling somewhere anyway so it did not make a lot of
>> difference.  I spent a lot of time in hotels, airports, airplanes, and
>> off-site partners and our other offices so it was fine with me though I did
>> (until I moved away) have an office at our main building in Cambridge with
>> a killer view of Boston and the river.  Plus I really liked a lot of the
>> people I worked with so that was nice to be around friends.
>>> 
>>> But yeah, the social interaction is a key factor not just in work but in
>> lots of other things, I find that people are getting cranky and ill-behaved
>> not having that.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 12/4/20 9:26 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 And in a nutshell that’s what this company found. While the initial
>> approach was to let roughly 50% of the employees work remotely, about a
>> third of those ended up wanting to return t the office if I recall
>> correctly. Many of them were younger people whose social lives involved
>> relationships with their (work) peers.
 
 It was pretty interesting, I thought.
 
 -D
 
> On Dec 4, 2020, at 9:17 AM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> A wise company will do an intelligent mix.   Those who do better
>> working
> from home, work from home.  Those who do better in an office
>> environment,
> work in an office.
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Re: [MBZ] 1973 Mercedes-Benz,$7,000

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Totally wrong fog lamps.  Not sure about the steering wheel, as that might have 
been a transition year from Bakelite to collapsable.  The w115 240D should have 
had the mushy wheel


clay 

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> On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:42 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Incorrect (and probably cracked) steering wheel is all wrong.  As is the
> price...
> 
> On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 11:27 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> looks pretty nice
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/13759591029/?ref=search_code=undefined
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

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Pink collar jobs in the legal field are all but gone.  There used to be massive 
word processing, secretarial pools, paralegals and a host of desk occupants.  
Now the shyster has to do his own WP, support tasks and self help/care.  If the 
firm is large enough, it has a central processing unit 
(HR/Tech/records/travel/etc.) in the main office, and a skeleton crew at that.  
Most of it has been outsourced to India or other 24/7 site.  Far less expensive 
and no need for benefits or interaction.

The Tech/FB fiasco is that US citizens are not being considered because the 
H1-B sorts are much cheaper.  Maybe US talent is inadequate (based on some of 
the young workers, not surprising).  Still, US employers should use US talent 
first, not undercut and hire slave wage workers.  

Clay


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> On Dec 4, 2020, at 7:26 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Max says:
> 
>> I've been thinking that the current situation of almost all virtual work 
>> (for those that can do so) is a losing proposition in the long term.
> 
> I would agree, but not for the reasons you state.
> If one can work for a company from home for $100k a year, that "work from 
> home" position can be done from India, Pakistan, or China for MUCH less. 
> Currently, there is a legal issue between FB and the DoJ over H-1b preference 
> over US citizen workers. "Work from home" (India), and the legal issue 
> disappears.
> 
> Blue collar jobs disappeared overseas in the eighties and nineties. White 
> collar jobs are next.
> 
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

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For virtual work to function well will require a mass change to home 
architecture to include work cells for kids and office drones.  In normal times 
social intercourse could be sustained in bars and dining spaces.  The current 
plague is swiftly ridding the landscape of any business lunch or social 
interaction locations.  

clay 

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> On Dec 4, 2020, at 4:09 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
> I've been thinking that the current situation of almost all virtual work
> (for those that can do so) is a losing proposition in the long term.  I'm
> not sure when the impact will be felt, but eventually the work-place
> relationships will shrivel up into superficial and shallow relationships,
> and the trust and social cohesion needed to keep an organization vital and
> energized and innovating will slip.  Companies / workplaces that maintain
> in-person environments will gain the advantage.  Perhaps some companies
> will develop business models that allow them to remain competitive, but I
> fear that those models will be brutal for the 'workers' and heavily benefit
> the company and its leadership.  Man is a social being, and there will be a
> price to pay for reducing workplace social contact.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] OT: $800 MacBook with iPhone CPU?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

App store has Parallels and other VM software, so probably able to run what you 
like.  I am thinking that with ARM chips, once the OS goes native, that spells 
the death of hackintosh.  Only able to run the OS on proprietary hardware on a 
chip.  I did contemplate the 16” MacBook Pro, but wanted more than the specs 
seemed to allow for ram and storage.

Clay


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> On Dec 3, 2020, at 8:35 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> The inability to emulate Windows is a total showstopper.
> 
> How would an ARM-based Mac be any less capable than a 68K or PowerPC-based 
> Mac?
> Windows was available for those via emulation, after suitable product 
> development delays.
> You think VMware is going to abandon that market segment in a fit of pique?
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] I can not believe how stupid people are

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It is a Tech worker from the left coast.  Not a functional human in the manner 
of older tech workers who actually got into the nuts and bolts of code and 
physical hardware.  This is a Lego programmer or drone who has no interest in 
knowing how “things” work, I am guessing, based on neighbors of mine who were 
slaves at M$, Gargle, Azaman, or Fakebuk.  It was a miracle they were able to 
make it to the shuttle bus each morning.  Most of them had crawled out of 
mama’s basement, got in early enough that stock options were offered, then 
purchased homes based on the assumption the stock would vest and banks were 
tossing out cash like it was confetti.  

One good aspect of the idiots on the block was the constant flow of service 
providers (plumbing, electrical, cleaning, yard tending)  Employing others to 
do the daily jobs these knobs were too clueless to figure out.

On a sadder note, the idiots also tended to create unsafe conditions because 
the stove tended to mystify them.  A few household fires had the station down 
the block rolling up with lights and sirens wailing any time of the day or 
night.  With the residents from 30 years back, the ambulance was in tow, since 
the Silent Generation tended to be in poor health, but knew well how to keep 
their homes functional.

clay 

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> On Dec 2, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Probably from Portland and expects the gummint to deal with everything for 
> him, take care of him and his needs. Probably hasn’t factored a Kleb into 
> that calculation 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT new laptops

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Not that I am on the road with the current plague, but the MacBook traveled 
well, unlike toting the Mac Pro.

Clay


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> On Dec 1, 2020, at 9:47 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> maybe I'll get a desktop and try that again.
> 
> Yeah, it's not too mobile.  But the 30" monitor that I'm using right
> now on the desktop is nice, nice, nice.  And the tower computer
> doesn't even get warm and is quiet, unlike what a laptop would
> be doing under similar circumstances.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Actually worked on a Benz today

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Wracking my noggin for if I ever blocked the rad in Gump.  Not that it got cold 
enough in SEA, but I did have issue with the fuel gelling while under way.  
Gallon of petrol solved that.  Oddly, fuel would solidify about the time the 
cabin heat was just becoming noticeable. 

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> On Nov 30, 2020, at 8:25 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Probably Cheerios, but who cares???
> 
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 11:16 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> 
>> What kind of cereal box? coco puffs? Count chocula? Fruit Loops?
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 9:09 AM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How long did you think a free service would stay free with worldwide
> coverage? That any of it is free is amazing. Can't be cheap to host, if
> nothing else.
> 
> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 11:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> 
>>> I guess maybe that'll stop some of the spam, though I never really
>>> thought it was that out of control. And people reposting their car every
>>> few days so it stays on top.
>> 
>> It was not done for us, it was a money grab.
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes 350SDL parts car - $2,500 (Pierson)

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The last two cars I put on CL required payment of their fee.  Since the 
vehicles were in less than showroom condition, I chose to forgo listing as 
drivers and sold them as parts cars.  There were bins of parts that did 
accompany them, so … parts  car

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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 8:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Jim Cathey via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Craigslist now charges money to list a non-parts car.
> 
> I thought that was just for dealers? Is it also true for private sellers 
> now?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Covids Vax

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Quantas requires certified proof of vaccine before you can fly.  CCP wants you 
to get a verification QR code stamp so they are able to track your WRD travel.  
They are trying to peddle that to the rest of the world.  As a means to 
streamline travel.

Clay


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> On Nov 23, 2020, at 6:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Correct.  I guess at some point it will be noted in a database somewhere but 
> will not be "personalized" unless a doc needs to know for some medical reason 
> then they can find out.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 77 280E at C

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Below freezing, more snow to shovel this morning.  

Only people on the road are the plows


clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On Nov 21, 2020, at 9:40 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 60s here under cloudy skies.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020 at 1:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Random COVID question

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

AK has to barge all its goods from outside.  Article in this week’s daily rag 
reports that shipping costs are going up due to constrictions related to 
meeting mandates, wear and tear on employees, and PITA of access to docks.  Lot 
of boats are moored at ports with no place to be.  

Added to the reduced hours manufacturers of goods are actually producing, paper 
plants dropped shifts, much as others have reduced employment.  Less goods to 
ship, less stuff on shelves.  Now it is weather that slows or impedes goods 
arriving, so it stacks up at originating ports not getting loaded, as well as 
not being off loaded, as there is reduced rail and road transport.  

A recent example of how SARS-CoV is tossing a wrench.  #1 boy is essential.  He 
was in a location all day with somebody who came in contact with another person 
who came in contact with other person who tested for the plague.  Being a 
conscientious person, he tells the supervisor.  That gets him sent home until 
he has percolated long enough for plague to erupt, at which point he has to get 
a test for Schroedinger virus.  

One week out of work.  

Tested and has to wait, since employer demands most reliable testing.  

Other week unemployed.   

Had he been truly infected, then funding would have kicked in for lost wages.  
Since he did not become plague zombie, no dinero, work was down essential 
employees at essential job sites for half the month, chain reaction of contact 
trace put even more people imprisoned to 14 days, slowing more essential 
business.

One positive.  It was hunting season, so the plague in waiting group was able 
to bag their limits.


Clay


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> On Nov 22, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How come, as we approach a year of this pandemic, the paper companies
> still cannot keep retailers stocked with toilet paper and paper towels?
> 
> I was at Target yesterday, and they had nothing. Zippo. Not even a roll
> of the most generic off-brand anything.
> 
> Is it simply lack of truck and storage and shelf space? The retailers
> are buying as much as they can fit through their pipeline and it's still
> not enough?
> 
> Why are they not raising prices to meet demand? Surely it's better to
> have to pay more for something if you really need it, than to be unable
> to buy it at all? A higher price will also discourgage hoarding.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hitchhike?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

None of the big pharma are able to produce in quantities required to have 
statistically significant impact.  UK was all excited about maybe using their 5 
million doses, which could show up late spring 2021, to infect a couple million 
frail folks (two dose).  

Maybe when there are half a dozen billion doses available, we will know if the 
cures are worse than the plague.  That should be long after the WRD has swept 
through the population and herd immunity is common.


Clay


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> On Nov 22, 2020, at 7:34 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Until a vaccine rushed through development and safety testing has massive 
> side effects?
> Color me dubious. I won't rush out to get a vaccine...
> 
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Hitchhike?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I have yet to hear how the AK snowbirds are going to survive.  Most came back 
with their home on wheels, but will not be able to go south, since Canada will 
not open borders until next year.  Either way, the provincial borders are shut 
for Yukon, BC, and NWT.  


Clay


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> On Nov 21, 2020, at 5:45 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My cousin owns the general store in Stockholm, Maine (population 800 
> something) and says a lot of the older folks are nervous to go to Florida for 
> the winter. Arostook county has very few COVID cases, but a lot of the 
> snowbirds spend the summer in cottages that would never make it through a 
> northern Maine winter.He says some of the folks that have real houses have 
> laid in firewood and are going to try it. He hopes that having those folks 
> will offset the loss of revenue from fewer (if any) snowmobilers.
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

SWMBA is a lawyer.  She does not seem very enriched to herself, as she claims 
being deprived of man bits leads to less enriching.  She seems more enriched 
than I am.  I think her agitating for more enrichment of diverse populations of 
ambulance chasers could lead to enrichments at a much later date.  It is not at 
all a source of current or mid-term enriching.

There are a vast cadre of lawyer pursuing “justice” who will not see any 
enrichment unless they switch to representing people/corporations with large 
hordes of enriched funds.  I think the justice league are in it for brownie 
points and to feel self smug that all that hard work is leaving them living in 
poverty and consuming nutrients that food eats.  


Clay


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> On Nov 15, 2020, at 4:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is there anything that involves a lawyer that doesn’t enrich them?
> 
> Where’s Gay Larry when you need him?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Nov 15, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Probate is such a scam. When my uncle Reg died it took like 3 years to get 
>> everything distributed even though nobody challenged anything.
>> As far as I can tell the whole probate process exists to enrich probate 
>> lawyers.
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Saturday, November 14, 2020, 7:31:25 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> When my father died in 2012, I was the trustee. Probate took a little more
>> than a year before I could disburse the funds to my siblings. The lawyer
>> who helped us with the probate process (an old friend) recommended that we
>> get a trust in place to save our kids from the probate hassle. even with
>> the "old friend" discount, getting a trust in place, turn-key, with another
>> lawyer cost almost exactly the same as the probate process, and it's all
>> paid in advance - no cost to our kids to execute the instructions in the
>> trust - even the lawyer is paid for, should he be needed. I thought it was
>> a heck of a deal.
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 5:55 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thank you all for your kind thoughts.
>>> Peter, good idea on the trust.  My mother did that and it might make sense
>>> for me too.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:53 PM
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>>> Cc: Peter Frederick 
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson
>>> 
>>> So sorry to hear about your wife's passing.  It's never fun.  My Mom is
>>> almost 97, so it's only a matter of time.
>>> 
>>> I recommend talking to an estate attorney once you have things settled.  It
>>> is far better to have a trust set up than to go through probate, to say
>>> nothing of less expensive.  There are also advantages if you need home
>>> health care in the future.  A friend of mine had one heck of a time when
>>> her
>>> father passed away (an estate attorney who didn't set up his own) and
>>> got everything put the way she wanted it.  When she unexpectedly passed
>>> away
>>> 5 years ago everything went fine other than the fact that we all lost her.
>>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

So saddened to learn of her passing.  Hard lesson to learn.  My parents did as 
your wife had many years ago.  Pretty much contactless process for those left 
to mourn.

Clay


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Re: [MBZ] [OT] GM recalling nearly 69,000 Bolt EVs for fire risks

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://thecanadian.news/2020/11/14/the-sale-of-gasoline-vehicles-banned-in-2035-in-quebec/
 


That will require a bunch of coal.  Or the construction of more nuke plants.  
And I seem to recall a few years back the grid failed and took out power across 
both Canada and US Atlantic coast.  

Clay


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> On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the other hand, all my Diesel Mercedes are perfectly happy and present
> zero risk of self ignition when I fill the fuel tank all the way to the top.
> In fact, I can even let them set for months, un-attended, and self ignition
> never happens.
> 
> Since we live in a world that places high value on "green energy" the
> question is raised.
> "How many green energy miles do you have to drive to offset the pollution
> caused by a percentage of a particular electric car burning uncontrolled
> after self ignition?"
> 
> Asking for a friend.
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Re: [MBZ] Mogday pic

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That looks like one of the blowers Oregon DOT was ridding themselves of years 
ago on the Bay of Fleas.  Maybe it is the newer edition.


Clay


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> On Nov 13, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> Or mouseday?
> Sorry, all out of 
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Re: [MBZ] I guess Clay can quit worrying about freezing rain...

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Back in the day, the first house I purchased had storm windows I had to put up 
in Autumn and remove around Mother’s day.  They did help with reducing heat 
leakage, even on the crap aluminum double paned stuff.

clay

> On Jan 9, 2020, at 6:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple years ago I made inserts that fit our window casements, I covered 
> them with plastic and put foam insulating tape on the outside so they're a 
> good tight fit. We have pretty good windows so they don't make a huge 
> difference but I was surprised that they make a difference in sound too.
> I embedded small magnets in the frames and in the window frames so they hold 
> themselves in. Each one cost about $0.50 to build and have lasted well. A 
> good project for those cold evenings.
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Th

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Re: [MBZ] I guess Clay can quit worrying about freezing rain...

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Question on the driver exam is a multi guess of what are required items to have 
on hand to be allowed to live in AK.  The correct answer is the one with duct 
tape.  All manner of repairs are effectuated with duct tape here.  Shoes, 
gloves, cars, even the requisite blue tarps are to be repaired in that manner.  

I was at the hardware store yesterday searching for a plastic repair glue.  I 
had not found a usable product at the grocery store.  I did find there is much 
space dedicated to duct tape in many flavors. Maybe to match your choice of 
potato or corn chip?  The hardware store was even more elaborate in gaffers 
tape.   Must have been five foot wide and tall.  From multi color electrical 
tapes to standard duct, all the way to NASA certified sealing tapes.

clay

> 
> An artcle on Alaska living listed the items that Alaskans keep on hand. One 
> of them was masking tape used to patch air leaks in the winter among other 
> uses.
> It seems like that might help keep moist air from leaking out through the 
> defective window seals in your house.
> Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] I guess Clay can quit worrying about freezing rain...

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I tried to snap a photo, but the cold just made my phone cranky

clay


> On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We need to see a photo of said frozen doodle.
> 
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 3:32 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Or trade the existing dog for an Alaskan sled dog who will live outside?
>> 
>> Randy
>> 
>> On 08/01/2020 2:28 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Clay,
>>> 
>>> Does the dog wear an extra coat? I would think an indoor dog would
>>> object to such cold weather without putting on another layer of
>>> insulation.
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Jan 8, 2020 12:44:07 AM Clay via Mercedes :
>>> 
>>> 
 They finally plowed the street from the new years day storm. I get to
>> drag the doodle dog around after putting Mushers Magic (looks like
>> petroleum jelly) on his paws. Today’s walk awarded me with iced up eye
>> brows and lashes, rime around the balaclava, and a four inch ice booger
>> dangling from my chin. I feared my eyes would freeze.
 
 BTW, 4% relative humidity inside is really uncomfortable. The
>> humidifier machines could not keep up, but a large pot of boiling water
>> helps. Until I saw that it was escaping through the perished seals on the
>> windows and icing up the glass outside.
 
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Re: [MBZ] I guess Clay can quit worrying about freezing rain...

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

This one has some problem solving abilities.  There are level 4 brain teasers 
for dogs.  He does half brute force and brain to get his treats.  Too small to 
really brute force it.  SWMBA took him to training, but nobody enforces it.   
Maybe if he was a trained up assistance dog, he would be more reliable.

clay 


> On Jan 8, 2020, at 5:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> The ones the neighbor in Wi has are pretty much untrainable.   Not sure how 
> bright they are or aren't.


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Re: [MBZ] I guess Clay can quit worrying about freezing rain...

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

The beast is a mid size doodle.  It has “hair” or a pelt, not fur, according to 
SWMBA.  It does know better than to go outside just for kicks.  Potty breaks 
are pretty much out, drop it, and dash back in. It has not seemed worse for 
wear during walks.  The dog does have two rain coats, as it sucks up moisture 
like a rag mop which takes hours on end to dry.  

The mutt will sit outside in the falling snow for hours just waiting to bark at 
a moose or some poor kid walking home from school.


clay

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 11:28 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Clay,
> 
> Does the dog wear an extra coat? I would think an indoor dog would
> object to such cold weather without putting on another layer of
> insulation.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Re: pizza oven talk

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

I do not think there is a vet close by.  No wild pork on the hoof, but ample 
selection of ungulate and ursine road kill available in the area

clay

> On Jan 8, 2020, at 3:55 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s not a veterinarian clinic is it?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 8, 2020, at 12:36 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2020 20:30:22 -0900 Clay via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Down the road from the home of SWMBA is a chinese/pizza place.  I have
>>> not attempted to investigate, as the possibilities are troubling.  It
>>> does share a small building with a walk in clinic.
>> 
>> Coincidentally co-located?
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Fun with Water Heaters

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Seattle is going the way of banning single family zoning as well.  They want 
density in the worst way, in hopes of ameliorating the extreme cost of shelter. 
 Banning new homes over 2000 square feet, allowing three housing units per lot, 
banning NG in new construction and trying to claw back existing NG to 
buildings.  Massive property tax hikes for ineffective transit buildout coupled 
with huge fees to license your car, and a swap from fuel tax to per mile tax on 
your car.

I am sort of blessed that my house is in an upscale area with all manner of 
desirable amenities within minutes by foot, or bike.  That should garner a 
stout sales price for SWMBA.  After spending a hefty sum to bring systems up to 
date (25 year old kitchen remodel, 20 yo roof, oak floor, interior paint, 
carpeting)

The socialist already tried to ban weapons, so now the cops are killing people 
for wielding cutlery.  “he attacked me with a soup spoon!"

clay monroe

I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
looking for didn't fall out.



> On Dec 31, 2019, at 4:44 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> There is a proposal in VA, now that one party has finally taken control of 
> the House, Senate, and Governorship, to enact a law banning single family 
> residential zoning. So no matter what you and your county government and 
> zoning board want, an apartment complex can go anywhere houses can go. How 
> many apartments could that developer put on 15 acres, and how much traffic 
> would that generate?
> 
> And they've prefiled a handful of gun bills that have 1-2 million Virginians 
> really upset. Upset to the point that over 90% of the county governments have 
> already enacted sanctuary provisions against bills that won't even be debated 
> until the legislative session begins next month. Several of the counties had 
> 1000-3000 people show up to the Board of Supervisors meetings where the 
> Sanctuary bills were voted on. When was the last time Rockingham County moved 
> the BoS meeting to a basketball court and 3000 people filled the bleachers to 
> demand they pass a law?
> Current map: 
> https://vcdl.org/resources/Pictures/Virginia-2A_Second-Amendment-Sanctuary-VCDLMap_12-29-2019.jpeg
> 
> Between the suburban NIMBYs and the gun owners, we could easily see 4 million 
> sincerely upset voters in a month or two. A guy I know went to a mini town 
> hall with the incoming leader of the House of Delegates. After he explained 
> to her why so many are against the proposed legislation, she told him the 
> bills were reasonable, common sense, necessary, had 90% support (more like 
> 90% opposition) and would be passed no matter what. 
> Mitch. 
> 
>> On December 31, 2019 at 6:24 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
>> Around here land is in short supply. One of the things the County is 
>> promoting is “suburban infill” which is a fancy term for subdividing small 
>> plots of land (10 acres, for example) that exist here and there and building 
>> 20 homes on it. It’s the bane of the surrounding property owners, as it 
>> often messes with their existing zoning.
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Re: [MBZ] You think 123 prices are crazy?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

BaT that and hope some fools on the west coast find it.  Big dollar sale for 
sure.  Craig McCaw (cellular One) has a racing shop that restores vintage race 
cars.  There is a really nice red 510 in the garage.  

The vintage asian cars are huge out there.  I was attending an MBCA event in 
North Vancouver BC a few years back.   Got stuck in the traffic near the venue 
by a few hundred dathonyotas on their way to their gathering.  Traffic at the 
border at the end of the day was a large percentage of the same folks

clay

> On Dec 30, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have this 72 Datsun 510 wagon that belonged to my granddaddy. When he got 
> sick like 35 years ago my dad put it in the barn where it sat until maybe 15 
> yr ago when I pulled it out and stuck it in a storage bin in KY.  It is 
> basically all original, in good shape except for a few small body dings and 
> what the mice and time have done to it.  So a fairly unmolested barn "find."  
> A coupla weeks ago I got thinking about it, and found some FB groups for 
> 510s. Lot of guys with cool cars, some mostly original, some modified with 
> newer engines, etc.  but still OK.  Fun to see the old cars being loved.
> 
> I just saw this POS project car listed, a sedan, the guy wants $2800 for.  So 
> now I'm thinking this thing I have, even just cleaned up a bit not even 
> running might be a $5k car, and if got back running who knows?  Not that I 
> want to sell it, but I think that is pretty crazy.  My granddaddy, who was a 
> very wise man for being mostly unschooled (at "school" anyway) would probably 
> say something about fools and money and such and just laugh and laugh.  He 
> probably paid maybe $800 for it back then, if that much, used, a few years 
> old, and drove it for maybe 10 years.
> 
> -- 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Polizei

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

He has a better haircut, a faster and newer car.  My Polei could barely hit 
fast enough to engage the flux capacitor for time travel

clay

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 6:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is that you, Clay?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8WwhfZ_FnI
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for a bit over five 
days, temps dropping to -17c over the past week.  This morning, temps were 
climbing to +2c, melting the compacted snow/ice tracks in the driveway.  The 
longer I stay here, I am sure I will be able defeat winter weather with ease.  
My tenure here has resulted in record high temps in town and drought.

clay

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.
> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
>> Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine 
>> tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Seattle is getting around 8 hours

Anchorage the sun went up after 1014 and will be down and dark 1530.   Most of 
that time is twilight.  yeah, the YA vampire thing.  It does get better, as the 
light will get above nightlite bright at almost 15 minutes a day.


clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Dec 27, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> +14F is pretty much the safe minimum for a Leaf battery. 
> They have emergency heaters but no battery cooling, at least they didn't have 
> battery cooling a few years ago. 
> 
> How many hours of daylight are you getting in AK this week?
> Today I saw sunrise 8:08, set 5:13, duration 9:05.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

There is much discussion of how to power the tiny villages and such up there.  
Very few places are close enough to make sense putting out much power, as the 
cost to run wires is huge compared to how much demand for wattage there is.  I 
think Kodiak has almost enough demand (powering three other population centers) 
to make 25 megawatt.  That is rather large.  Nome has a demand around 8MW and 
powers a few villages down about 10 miles of wire in a few directions.  

The Alaskan villagers really need to either step back from western luxury, or 
invest heavily in CO2 producing generation.  Trouble is, fuel flies in or comes 
on a barge.  Very expensive to live in the lap of western tech goodness in such 
a desolate place.  Much more reasonable to be on a sheep station in the 
outback.  At least you have sun, it is warm, and all you need is to keep the 
beer cold.


clay

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What's a sub or ship reactor put out?  A few megawatts?   Ah, here the wikis 
> tell us:
> 
> While land-based *reactors* in *nuclear power plants* produce up to around 
> 1600 megawatts of electrical power, a typical marine propulsion *reactor* 
> produces no more than a few hundred megawatts. Space considerations dictate 
> that a marine *reactor* must be physically small, so it must generate higher 
> power per unit of space.
> 
> A few hundred MW might be too much for the AK outback, but I'm sure they 
> could be derated to something more reasonable for the loads.  Plus you get 
> steam and hot water from cooling which might be nice to heat buildings with.  
> A nuke package cogen plant?
> 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

It does seem silly to me to see the high end homes here plastered with solar 
panels (48th parallel) and plug in for the Tesla or Leaf parked in the 
driveway.  I did learn that Seattle gets the same amount of insolation as 
Alaska (as a whole).  Seattle gets light year round of the same effective 
wattage as Alaska, being light only half the time there.  First week of 
November past some idiot (AK) who just put panels on his roof was crowing about 
how he had generated 4kw that week.  He was all excited to rush down to Seattle 
to purchase a used Leaf for $10k (there is a reason the off lease car was 
cheap).  I kept my mouth shut about how I hoped he would be walking or riding 
his bike all winter, as the panels were not going to power his car.  Not in the 
-17c cold that Anchorage is having this week.

clay


> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I recently saw an analysis that solar installations north of the 35th 
> parallel were a net CO2 loss, when all the CO2 emitted during production and 
> installation were compared to the same power provided by coal or one of the 
> other fossil fuels. In other words, installing solar panels to replace 
> electricity currently generated by fossil fuels will INCREASE the amount of 
> CO2 released into the atmosphere, when the solar panels are installed north 
> of 35 degrees.
> 
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT: We talked about socks, how about blue jeans?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I have not purchased in three years, so am not sure how much change to fabric 
has taken place.  The trousers are made in a host of nations and I have found 
some plants do a poor job with QC.  The Canadian made 501 shrinks are top 
quality, with thick material, sturdy stitching and tight button holes.  Only 
thing to have “failed” was the label after five years.  

Once the jeans get super soft and fade out at the thighs, I demote them to 
“work” duty where they are assaulted with motor oil, chemicals, and yard work.  
Even then it takes a few years for that “fashion” distressed cuts to show up.  
I am too large for the resulting britches to fit the fashion forward set in 
Japan

clay 


> 
> I wear those, but wonder if I got a counterfeit pair last time (bought
> online from Walmart.com, which I assumed was safe from that). Either
> that or they may have started cutting back on the fabric quality.
> 
> Squatting to pick something up, the entire crotch ripped open. Not on a
> seam, in the middle of the fabric. Glad I was not going commando at the
> time! That pair were only a few months old when that happened.
> 
> Allan


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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The fools in Alaska are getting heavy into wind and solar.  Recent story about 
how one utility is making a giant investment in TESLA batteries to take over 
the short load bumps from their NG plant.  CO2 reduction and all.  Stupidity of 
an extreme degree, given that the state does not have a linked grid.  Almost 
all the power is produced in isolated cells, so when your plant goes down, you 
are SOL.  Even the patched together grid from Fairbanks to the Kenia peninsula 
is a mash up of six separate utilities with their own fiefdoms charging each 
other carrier fees.  Hard to get your “cheap” wind power anywhere when, by the 
time it gets where it is needed, the cost has quintupled with all the fees.

AK is a place that could benefit from micro nuke plants.  I think there was 
interest in Toshiba closet nukes

clay

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, the US has a number of Nukes that will require retirement or 
> refueling in the near term.  Without a program to build more we will depend 
> on coal/fossil fuel plants to provide power.  Else, the US may have some dark 
> days and cold nights
> 
> I was hopeful we might see Va start it's Nuke Power industry with Vepco 
> looking at a new reactor in the Western part of the state.  Haven't heard 
> anything lately.
> 
> LarryT
> 
> On 12/20/2019 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> SWITZERLAND47-year-old nuclear power plant shuts down on live TVPublished:
>> Friday, December 20, 2019
>> 
>> Switzerland today shut down one of its oldest nuclear power plants, part of
>> a plan to end the domestic production of atomic energy before the middle of
>> the century.
>> 
>> Operator BKW took the Mühleberg Nuclear Power Plant, located 25 miles west
>> of the capital Bern, off the grid shortly after midday in a ceremony
>> broadcast live by Switzerland's main public TV station.
>> 
>> BKW, which is majority owned by the canton of Bern, said it plans to begin
>> dismantling the plant in January, a process that will take until 2034.
>> Decommissioning and deposing of radioactive remains is estimated to cost 3
>> billion Swiss francs ($3.1 billion).
>> 
>> Mühleberg is the smallest of Switzerland's four remaining nuclear power
>> plants. It began operation in 1972.
>> 
>> After the 2011 Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster in Japan, Switzerland
>> decided to gradually phase out nuclear power.
>> 
>> Switzerland is home to the world's oldest still-operating nuclear power
>> plant, Beznau, which will be shut down toward the end of 2029.
>> 
>> The remaining two nuclear plants, Gösgen and Leibstadt, will be shuttered
>> around 2040 and 2045, respectively.
>> 
>> Switzerland plans to significantly increase the production of renewable
>> energy from solar and wind over the coming decades to meet its power needs.
>> As part of the European grid, Switzerland also buys electricity from
>> neighboring countries such as France, which has numerous nuclear power
>> plants.
>> 
>> Earlier this week, campaigners submitted enough signatures to force a
>> referendum on incorporating the goal of making Switzerland "climate
>> neutral" by 2050 in the country's constitution. Doing so would require
>> ending virtually all burning of fossil fuels by midcentury. *— Associated
>> Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: We talked about socks, how about blue jeans?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Since 1978 I have been using Levi’s 501 shrink to fit button fly.  Had a minor 
error time with designer jeans for a year in 1980, then returned to Levi’s 501. 
 There are four or five in rotation at a time.  This gives them a lifetime wear 
of around 4 years.  Best fit I have found for any trousers to date for my lumpy 
form

clay


> On Dec 23, 2019, at 8:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I have had different brands of blue jeans with various
> lengths of usable life and comfort of fit.
> 
> Have any of you found a particular brand to wear longer
> than others? Fit better than others?
> 
> How about places to buy them? Are the ones sold at Wally World worse
> quality than those sold at other places? How about Tractor Supply?
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Goodbye Polei?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

The move was seen locally as a middle finger to the union.  I seem to recall is 
following on a prolonged labor action that shut things down for a while.  May 
have been coincidental to opening the SC plant that has no unions.  It did open 
up a bunch of very large and expensive residential real estate, which impacted 
the top of the market when the executives moved to ChiTown

clay 



> On Dec 23, 2019, at 9:13 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I think it used to be there when they concentrated on building good aircraft, 
> but then they switched over to chasing the almighty dollar and the executives 
> did not see any reason why they needed to be anywhere close to the people 
> that produce the product.
> 
> 
> On 23/12/2019 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I always assumed Boeing HQ was in Seattle.
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 11:48 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> When he flies out one way on the corporate jet and meets with HR he can
>>> pick it up and drive back
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 12/23/19 11:35 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
>>>> BUT he is in Chicago.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 23/12/2019 9:56 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>> The Boeing CEO has some spare time available now
>>>>> 
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/22/19 3:49 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>>>>>> I am getting down to the wire with depleting the hoard.  About the
>>>>>> only stuff left for me to deal with on my own are the two cars and
>>>>>> some old Apple/Mac computer promotional items.  I have been spamming
>>>>>> the few brave folks who over the summer removed the Benz items, but
>>>>>> nobody has spare cash at this time of year.  I really do not want
>>>>>> the poor SDL to spend another winter rotting in the rain, not
>>>>>> getting taken on the road.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The other day a fellow who snagged a bunch of my Mac stuff and the
>>>>>> Newton message pad came by to pick up the Newton manual I found in a
>>>>>> camcorder bag.  I figured I could do no damage by mentioning the
>>>>>> faux police car, and he said it deserved some thought.  I outlined
>>>>>> the extreme project nature of the car, but that it did all the
>>>>>> things a working car does, even has working Becker radio, AC and
>>>>>> heat, brakes rebuilt with fresh ABS pump, and transmission shifts
>>>>>> well enough to chirp the tires.   For a basic A to B car, it would
>>>>>> be fine, while a poorer person saved for a real car.  This guy works
>>>>>> for Boeing.  Maybe he sees some slack time in his future (737 max?)
>>>>>> and just asked to set up a test drive for monday morning.  Looks
>>>>>> like I am making a K’leb price deal
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> maybe.  For the price, getting a bunch of spare parts to make
>>>>>> upgrades or repairs along with a driver seems like a deal to me.  To
>>>>>> get rid of it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> clay
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>>>>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>>>>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Goodbye Polei?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Buyer showed up at 0900 with a buddy.  I gave them the keys, showed him how to 
glow and where the parking brake was, then set them on their test drive.  It 
took them about 20 minutes to thrash the car enough to convince him to hand 
over $700.  Filled out the title transfer and learned that the Soviet Socialist 
State of Washington put into place a fee upon the seller of car for selling a 
car.  $14 for what used to be free.  Then they will charge the new owner $250 
to transfer title and register the car.  

What a scam.  

I am down to driving the SL for Xmas dinner visit to family.  60 mile round 
trip.  I will fill her with unadulterated petrol, put something in for her 
winter storage to keep the fuel fresh and put her to bed until I return this 
spring to put her on the block.

She is a Kaleb Car.  Silber Grun on green leather, with Dunkle Grun top and 
hubcaps.  All factory.  

clay

> On Dec 23, 2019, at 7:48 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Someone is getting a decent deal.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gasser fuel injection cleaner

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

My indy was big on having me run Techron through the gassers to clean up the 
injectors.  Diesels were another story, but I think on the newer ones he was 
promoting some sort of injector cleaners.

I like Marvel Mystery oil in the tank with each fuel up.  May be a waste of 
cash, but the M117 really likes it.  Djet hates the oxygenated fuels, so she 
only gets ethanol free around town.  On the road, I have to fuel up at normal 
pumps and the car runs like crap until I fill with good fuel.

clay

> On Dec 22, 2019, at 6:49 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have never run any sort of additive in diesels unless there was a need for 
> gel prevention or something along those lines.  With gassers such as the 
> M112, is there every a need to run some sort of cleaner thru them 
> periodically?  If so, what cleaner and how often?
> 
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[MBZ] Goodbye Polei?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am getting down to the wire with depleting the hoard.  About the only stuff 
left for me to deal with on my own are the two cars and some old Apple/Mac 
computer promotional items.  I have been spamming the few brave folks who over 
the summer removed the Benz items, but nobody has spare cash at this time of 
year.  I really do not want the poor SDL to spend another winter rotting in the 
rain, not getting taken on the road.

The other day a fellow who snagged a bunch of my Mac stuff and the Newton 
message pad came by to pick up the Newton manual I found in a camcorder bag.  I 
figured I could do no damage by mentioning the faux police car, and he said it 
deserved some thought.  I outlined the extreme project nature of the car, but 
that it did all the things a working car does, even has working Becker radio, 
AC and heat, brakes rebuilt with fresh ABS pump, and transmission shifts well 
enough to chirp the tires.   For a basic A to B car, it would be fine, while a 
poorer person saved for a real car.  This guy works for Boeing.  Maybe he sees 
some slack time in his future (737 max?) and just asked to set up a test drive 
for monday morning.  Looks like I am making a K’leb price deal

maybe.  For the price, getting a bunch of spare parts to make upgrades or 
repairs along with a driver seems like a deal to me.  To get rid of it.

clay 


1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1982 SD - Allen
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers









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Re: [MBZ] Rust was:Re: W124 rear subframe

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Dry side and a wet side.  The local SEA DOT will try to get trucks out to spray 
deicer on the main roads if they have a few days warning.  Mild saline solution 
of some sort that keeps mostly exposed bridge deck from icing over if temps 
drop to 26f.  Wet side tends to warm and wash away the snow and rarely gets 
that cold.

Dry side has a rain shadow on the east side of the Cascades.  Wind and cold 
seep in from over the  border of Canada.  What minimal moisture can get out of 
mountain passes will dribble on central WA.  Spokane area is in the foothills 
of the mountains making up the Idaho panhandle.  Moisture backs up and dumps.

clay


> On Dec 22, 2019, at 10:19 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That sucks. I thought that parts of WA are considered desert.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> 
> 
>   Original Message  
> 
> 
> 
> From: jim.cathey...@gmail.com
> Sent: December 22, 2019 11:57 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: rickkno...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: W124 rear subframe R pictures
> 
> 
>> Pacific Northwest is optimal
> 
> Eastern WA now uses salt.  It was the death of the Frankenheap.
> 
> -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Gross Incompetence. (RANT)

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

My view, over the past few decades of watching the tides, is that this is all 
an evolutionary process to cull the herd of debris.  Policies have been enacted 
to discourage active procreation, and spin has been induced to confound the 
soft headed sorts to meander into non productive actions which will remove 
their genes from the future.

Women now are working past their abilities to serve their primary reproductive 
functions.  They are old, but not wise in how to assist in caring for coming 
generations of humans.  Men are encouraged to do things counter to millions of 
years of breeding, and the foods we consume are destroying our DNA and ability 
to impregnate anyway.

Very much like the decline on Mercedes Benz cars.  They no longer are able to 
survive to the point of classic, let alone vintage or antique.  

clay

> On Dec 20, 2019, at 9:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It is my considered opinion that the present principles of "Diversity" and
> "Political Correctness" have accelerated the Darwin Theory of "Only the
> Strong Survive".
> Ultimately, all those focused on whether the sit or stand to pee instead of
> improving the human race will perish, and those who know not to piss
> themselves and survive and thrive will survive to breed.
> As for myself, "You can't kill me, you can only wish you did."
> [Sum total of an attitude that comes from having served in hostile fire
> actions and 70+ years of experience dealing with the human race.]
> 
> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 9:22 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Remember the simple and factual statement by the little boy in the movie
>> Kindergarten Cop.  Boys have a penis and girls have a vagina.  You can want
>> to be something else, but what you are is what you are.  Our society is at
>> the brink of dissolution.  I hope we can save it.
>> Best Wishes,

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