Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

2013-08-07 Thread Peter Frederick
You need for her to find a real mechanic, this isn't rocket science, but it's obviously out of the current mechanic's area of expertise. Look for an independent Benz mechanic. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 300SD battery/alternator problem

2013-08-07 Thread Rich Thomas
Kinda funny, there is one like 2 doors down from her new apartment. I might send her there. She had this guy do the alternator a coupla weeks ago before she moved so that is why I told her to go back there. I'm thinking that might not have been the actual problem, maybe a bad wire or

Re: [MBZ] 300SD parts

2013-06-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I sent Jabba an email so will see what he comes back with. --R On 6/13/13 3:20 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: Don't go by the website... call or email. Like Rusty was, the site isn't an accurate representation of what he has access too. But I think with hoses, Uro and Geniune may be all there is

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-10 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/07/2012 5:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most hated cars: 1. Lexus (all models) 2. Prius 3. Camry I have to say I am more or less neutral on Lexus. Don't want one. Don't really care one way ot t'oher.

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Couldn't you lump Honda Civics in with the Camrys? They are just as endemic... Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: On 09/07/2012 5:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-10 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I'm not a fan of any Japanese or Korean cars but Toyota takes the cake. After their recent safety issues and subsequent attempted denial and cover-up of these issues I'm really turned off. The whole Lexus copycating MB and BMW styling and then surpassing MB in sales really angers me. Honda

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-10 Thread Dan Penoff
Points well taken, but if I understand correctly (and if I don't I am sure someone will take me to task) hasn't Hyundai done rather well in the owner satisfaction category? Dan On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:11 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not a fan of any Japanese or Korean

[MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
So this morning mama rings me a 4:26AM (don't ask) and in fumbling for the phone I did not get the call. Try to call her like 6 times, then a voice mail pops up, she says the car is dead, was smoking bad, would not start again after stopping. Anyway I finally reach her, she has called AAA to

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
My son experienced two 300SD overheating snafus, cooking the engine in the process both times. Each time the cause was a cracked plastic radiator neck, while he was driving fast on the h'way and didn't notice in time. Since then he was switched to Miatas, Subaru Outbacks, and most recently a

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/07/2012 11:05 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: So this morning mama rings me a 4:26AM (don't ask) and in fumbling for the phone I did not get the call. Try to call her like 6 times, then a voice mail pops up, she says the car is dead, was smoking bad, would not start again after stopping. Anyway

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/07/2012 11:13 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: My son experienced two 300SD overheating snafus, cooking the engine in the process both times. Each time the cause was a cracked plastic radiator neck, while he was driving fast on the h'way and didn't notice in time. Since then he was switched

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
I was thinking about that when she told me she did not see a red warning light. I should try to rig something up, just a little temp sensor and a buzzer/light or something. --R On 7/9/12 12:19 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: On 09/07/2012 11:13 AM, andrew strasfogel wrote: My son experienced two

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Max Dillon
OM617, right? Maybe Andrew still has one? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Dan Penoff
The problem with the typical temperature sensor is that when it is in free air, it doesn't work. It had to be in contact with the liquid to be measured. Case in point: When I was at Kohler we started using Ford industrial engines on our small (100kW) gas units. Unfortunately, some of the units

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
How about some form of water pressure sensor? One would think that when the level drops, the pump would not be putting out full pressure due to air/cavitation etc? Or a temperature sensor located lower on the block? If fluid is not moving well, one would think the temperature would rise?

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Dan Penoff
Good thinking, but wouldn't you have pressure even in the instance of low coolant level? Dan On Jul 9, 2012, at 2:30 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: How about some form of water pressure sensor? One would think that when the level drops, the pump would not be putting out full

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Rich Thomas
OK the good news is that mama smelled something when she shut the car off, then saw the smoke so I figure it had not yet drained completely and was still cooling some so no damage. One hopes. On the temp sensor, would not it be best to put some sort of contact thermothingie on the head

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Fmiser
Randy Bennell wrote: How about some form of water pressure sensor? One would think that when the level drops, the pump would not be putting out full pressure due to air/cavitation etc? Pressure in the system comes from the heat. I don't think that would work dependably. Or a temperature

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Lexus. Ughh:( Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:13 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: My son experienced two 300SD overheating snafus, cooking the engine in the process both times. Each time the cause was a cracked plastic radiator neck, while he was driving fast on the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Randy Bennell
On 09/07/2012 2:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Lexus. Ughh:( Sent from my iPhone Well, my recollection is that there was a Lexus that looked a lot like an MB so the styling was OK. Toyota used to have a good mechanical reputation so if the one that looks like an MB came from that era, it

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
I sold my engine to a dude from VA for $325. )) On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: OM617, right? Maybe Andrew still has one? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread andrew strasfogel
You must learn to be more tolerant, Dimitri. I felt the same way until I read the road test report. On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Lexus. Ughh:( Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2012, at 12:13 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
I have no tolerance for Lexus:) Never will. Toyota as a company irks me. My three most hated cars: 1. Lexus (all models) 2. Prius 3. Camry Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2012, at 5:48 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: You must learn to be more tolerant, Dimitri. I felt the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Scott Ritchey
...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 12:06 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare So this morning mama rings me a 4:26AM (don't ask) and in fumbling for the phone I did not get the call. Try to call

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare

2012-07-09 Thread Curt Raymond
running it to see what happens. Even then in a nice-ish car its still probably worth fixing. -Curt Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 19:41:13 -0400 From: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD Morning Scare Message-ID

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-12 Thread Rich Thomas
84 --R On 6/11/12 9:51 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: What kind of SD? If it's a 1978-1980, the climate control servo will draw about 0.4A when it sticks and won't park after you turn the key off. As long as you don't park it for more than two days with the servo stuck, it'll start OK, but the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-12 Thread Mitch Haley
Rich Thomas wrote: 84 Then you've got the monovalve, not the 1970 Chrysler Imperial servo that's in my 1979 SD, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-12 Thread Rich Thomas
si --R On 6/12/12 10:24 AM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: 84 Then you've got the monovalve, not the 1970 Chrysler Imperial servo that's in my 1979 SD, right? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To

[MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas
So my wife calls me a little while ago, does a lunch errand, comes out and car won't start, seems like battery won't crank. This happened a week or two ago after the car had sat for a few days, I was thinking maybe a light was left on or something. Charged the battery, it has been fine,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread Randy Bennell
Does it try to crank at all? Are the headlights bright? Safety interlock switch on the transmission? Move the shifter back and forth a couple of times and see if anything changes. Randy On 11/06/2012 2:27 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: So my wife calls me a little while ago, does a lunch errand,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread OK Don
Once you get it started, measure the voltage at the battery terminals - should be 13.8v or better if the alternator is charging the battery. Will be 12v or less if not. If 13.8v the alternator is OK, the battery might be dying. If 12v the alternator is dead. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:32 PM,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread Craig
On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 14:32:36 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote: Does it try to crank at all? Are the headlights bright? Safety interlock switch on the transmission? Move the shifter back and forth a couple of times and see if anything changes. Measure with a voltmeter. A

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas
She just called me and said the AAA guy got it going, and did a test that determined the battery was fried. She recalled getting a new one last summer after the one in the car died, so maybe it is fairly new. I remember going to rescue her, but did not remember getting a new battery, maybe I

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread andrew strasfogel
This is a logical place to start a battery thread. I used to buy Interstate, then MB batteries, then FLAPS, and lately Sears has had the best deals. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: She just called me and said the AAA guy got it going,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread Fmiser
Rich Thomas wrote: So my wife calls me a little while ago, does a lunch errand, comes out and car won't start, seems like battery won't crank. She drove in this morning early (dark) which after starting would have run down the battery with the lights, then maybe enough left to start it to

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread Rich Thomas
The AAA guy gave her a printout, 8.4V (probably at cranking), 220A (650 rated), 0.0 on something (I don't have the printout here). Whatever, it's dead, Jim. I think not that old either. We'll see Since only shops sell Interstates, and all the shops close at like 5PM, I will have to hit

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread Brian Toscano
Its a diesel. Just push start it. On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 5:10 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: The AAA guy gave her a printout, 8.4V (probably at cranking), 220A (650 rated), 0.0 on something (I don't have the printout here). Whatever, it's dead, Jim. I think

Re: [MBZ] 300SD Battery or Alternator?

2012-06-11 Thread Mitch Haley
What kind of SD? If it's a 1978-1980, the climate control servo will draw about 0.4A when it sticks and won't park after you turn the key off. As long as you don't park it for more than two days with the servo stuck, it'll start OK, but the drains will shorten the life of the battery. Mitch.

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-19 Thread Barry Stark
Jamie - I believe that self adjusting is a bit of a misnomer. What happens in that later box is that there is a spring loaded plunger pushing against the working piston so if there is some slop you can't feel it. Generally the box can develop lash between the gear teeth on the working piston and

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
Loosing? On Apr 18, 2012, at 10:53 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Rich, what's wrong with a reseal without loosing the balls (like the website posted a few days ago)? That was done on a 126 box. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-19 Thread Max
Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Loosing? Loosing is one of Rich's favorite technical terms! ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Good question... last time I did this I don't recall getting much fluid. I'll check again. Replacing whats in the reservoir is quick and easy, so its nice to make it part of a normal service. Jaime On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-19 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Great info Barry, Thanks! Jaime On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 3:11 AM, Barry Stark barryst...@verizon.net wrote: Jamie - I believe that self adjusting is a bit of a misnomer. What happens in that later box is that there is a spring loaded plunger pushing against the working piston so if there is

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-19 Thread Rich Thomas
All that stuff is new -- I rebuilt the whole front suspension and links. Looks like the various suggestions might add up to just living with the problem for now. I asked the Benz shop that did the alignment what they recommended for the slop, he said after it all settled in for a week or two

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-19 Thread Dan Penoff
I guess you could loose all of the ball bearings in the steering gear, as in set loose. Dan On Apr 19, 2012, at 7:56 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote: Loosing? Loosing is one of Rich's favorite technical terms! ;) -- Max Dillon Charleston

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-19 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 19, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Replacing whats in the reservoir is quick and easy, so its nice to make it part of a normal service. Especially with a topsider. :-) Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

[MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Rich Thomas
OK the SD is all finished, I had to replace LF brake caliper as one piston was pretty much frozen. All new suspension and steering bits, an alignment done. Car drives well except there is still a fair amount of slop in the steering. The u-joint on the shaft just ahead of the box is fine, I

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: I am thinking the steering box needs to be adjusted, but with all the scary stories about buggering the box I am reluctant to do that. I don't think there's any harm in adjusting it slightly, to see if you get improvement. Just don't

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
When I did my front end rebuild all was well except for the steering slop. I just tighten up the adjustment screw a bit and it eliminated the slop but the steering still doesn't feel quite right. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering sloppy coupling

2012-04-18 Thread Hendrik Fay
Check the flex coupling, a couple of days ago it came up on the OzBenz forum that one of those had completely disintegrated on a 126. Rusty sells em for a 100 slides

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering sloppy coupling

2012-04-18 Thread WILTON
I have some old 35mm slides here in my desk; I should use those next time I place an order with Q. ;) Wilton - Original Message - From: Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Hendrik Fay
There is supposed to be a little bit of play in the steering, over adjusting the steering box may well lead to premature wear and/or locking of the box at full turn. Proper alignment is important, to ensure the car drives straight with a slight movement to the right for you and left for us.

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread WILTON
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2012 7:52 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop There is supposed to be a little bit of play in the steering, over adjusting the steering box may well lead to premature wear and/or locking of the box at full turn

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its pretty straight forward to adjust the box... I do it all the time, as recently as last night on a 83 300D. Heres the method in detail: Start with a 19mm socket and a long set of extensions to reach the adjuster nut. Loosen the nut with a breaker bar or ratchet just a bit... maybe 1/4-1/2

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread David Bruckmann
On a 126 SD, the box is self-adjusting. Are you absolutely sure the flex coupler is solid (ie. you need to check it with resistance, not with the front wheels in the air). Rich Thomas wrote: I am thinking the steering box needs to be adjusted ___

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
So when should a steering box be replaced? Is there a time when you just can't adjust out the slop? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:01 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Its pretty straight forward to adjust the box... I do it all the time, as recently as last night on a

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Yes, when you reach the point that the adjustment screw won't back out anymore, its time to rebuild/replace the box. I've only experienced this once after owning dozens of these cars. You can usually adjust it to be perfect or at least acceptable. There is a factory procedure for adjusting the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Whoa! You replace the PS fluid at every oil change? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, when you reach the point that the adjustment screw won't back out anymore, its time to rebuild/replace the box. I've only experienced this once

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Allan Streib
Hendrik Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes: Proper alignment is important, to ensure the car drives straight with a slight movement to the right for you and left for us. Why a slight drift to one side? Don't you want it to track absolutely straight? Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Until it looks clean, yes... it takes some time to flush out 30 year old fluid! Jaime On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: Whoa! You replace the PS fluid at every oil change? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Jaime Kopchinski

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread David Bruckmann
Versus the W123 (and prior) is NOT self-adjusting, hence the need to do so occasionally. I'd be careful with a 126. If it is loose, it is probably the coupler, or the box is shot. D. At 5:12 PM -0700 4/18/12, David Bruckmann wrote: On a 126 SD, the box is self-adjusting. Are you absolutely

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Rick Knoble
Roads are crowned so water runs off. So your car will drift right in USA or left in OZ. Rick Sent from my iPhone. On Apr 18, 2012, at 7:37 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: Why a slight drift to one side? Don't you want it to track absolutely straight?

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Dimitri Seretakis
Ok. I got it now. Thanks for the tip! Sent from my iPhone On Apr 18, 2012, at 8:49 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Until it looks clean, yes... it takes some time to flush out 30 year old fluid! Jaime On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 8:23 PM, Dimitri Seretakis

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Its true the box is somehow self adjusting in the W126 (from 08/81, so MY 1982), but the manual still states that adjustment is possible. See: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12253/program/Chassis/46-110.pdf and

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread David Bruckmann
The later (W126 and newer) boxes use a spring loaded gear. A simple solution that reduces the box slop and prevents early wear caused by lack of timely adjustment. But it also means that when the box is worn out, it really is worn out. I can't see why adjustment would ever be necessary except

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Dieselhead
Loosen the lock nut, turn the adjuster screw COUNTERclockwise (loosen) 1/4 turn and try it on the road. It will take several adjustments to get it right. sometimes 1/8 turn is enough. If you get it too tight (Loosen the adjuster too much) you can tell by noise and handling. Then just

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Curt Raymond
Sure, the reservoir only holds like a cup and its ATF so a change is like $1. -Curt Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2012 17:23:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop Message-ID: 1334795017.70403

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
Certainly could be... its been a few years since my last W126. Jaime On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 9:30 PM, David Bruckmann bruckma...@transcontinental.ca wrote: The later (W126 and newer) boxes use a spring loaded gear. A simple solution that reduces the box slop and prevents early wear caused

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Craig
On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 20:18:05 -0400 Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: I generally suck out what I can and replace it every time I change the oil. I keep a gallon of generic ATF on hand just for this purpose. The generic ATF would be suitable for a W123, but doesn't one need to use the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering sloppy coupling

2012-04-18 Thread Rich Thomas
See below -- The u-joint on the shaft just ahead of the box is fine unless there is some other coupling between it and the steering wheel. I grabbed the shaft near the steering box and rotated it, the shaft the other side of the coupling was rotating too, and the coupling was tight. Car on

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Max
Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: Until it looks clean, yes... it takes some time to flush out 30 year old fluid! Why not change all the fluid at once by draining the box via the port for the locking screw? I've done it that way, just takes some time to work the air out. Another

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Max
Rich, what's wrong with a reseal without loosing the balls (like the website posted a few days ago)? That was done on a 126 box. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering sloppy coupling

2012-04-18 Thread David Bruckmann
Unless the joint is completely and utterly shot, moving the shaft with your hands may not tell you the whole story because you can't get enough leverage. You should apply enough force that you are actually causing the wheels to twitch a bit. Have someone move the steering wheel (engine off,

Re: [MBZ] 300SD steering slop

2012-04-18 Thread Peter Frederick
Check the tie rods and drag link -- likely they are worn out as well. Makes an amazing difference to replace them. Should have been caught by the alignment shop, though. Peter On Apr 18, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: OK the SD is all finished, I had to replace LF brake caliper as

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-14 Thread Kevin Kraly
I discovered that an empty anti-freeze jug makes a very nice pillow for working under the car. Right size, and fairly comfortable. Timely advice since I'm right in the middle of my 240D engine/tranny mount replacement job! I had to cut the job short as I needed a 6mm hex socket for the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Dieselhead
Did you change out the idler arm bushings? Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Took the mamabenz to the shop today to get an alignment after the front suspension rebuild, drives very nicely. Still a bit of play in the steering, the box might need some work. There

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Max
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: There is always a bit of slop in them. Adjusting the box too far to eliminate all free play will actually cause it to wear more quickly, or so Marshall used to say. Actually those boxes can be overhauled DIY, supposedly with great results. I have a

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I got the kit and for some reason forgot to change it (I left it lying on another part of the bench and overlooked it when I was going through the parts), but it seems to be pretty tight. The guy at the shop suggested driving it for a week or two then to bring it back and they will check it

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Craig
On Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:55:32 -0400 Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: On another note, I discovered that an empty anti-freeze jug makes a very nice pillow for working under the car. Right size, and fairly comfortable. A good tip! Thank you. Craig

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Mike Esh
Max, I need a steering box rebuild! Please send link Is it difficult to remove and replace the box? I have replaced front and rear bushings, half axles and such. Thanks in advance, Mike Michael E. Esh On Apr 13, 2012, at 9:41 AM, Max meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: Allan Streib

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Thomas
I have a bunch of links, was going to look them over to see what I might need to do, will dig them out. One was very detailed. Here it is, seals and adjustment (and don't loose your balls) http://www.davidpetryk.net/Mercedes/Steering.htm --R On 4/13/12 10:38 AM, Mike Esh wrote: Max, I

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond
@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done! Message-ID: 4f883054.7050...@constructivity.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I got the kit and for some reason forgot to change it (I left it lying on another part of the bench and overlooked it when I

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Max Dillon
until the head is back on) Charleston SC From: Mike Esh michael...@me.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Fri, April 13, 2012 10:38:33 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done! Max, I need a steering box rebuild! Please send

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Fmiser
Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: There is always a bit of slop in them. Adjusting the box too far to eliminate all free play will actually cause it to wear more quickly, or so Marshall used to say. Max wrote: Actually those boxes can be overhauled DIY, supposedly with great

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Max Dillon
, 2012 11:57:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done! Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: There is always a bit of slop in them. Adjusting the box too far to eliminate all free play will actually cause it to wear more quickly, or so Marshall used to say. Max wrote

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Rick Knoble
How do you tell if a steering stabilizer is bad? Heck, how do you inspect bushings, ball joints, idler arm, etc.? I just replaced tie rod assemblies on the kid's 123, but the steering is still a little loose. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Rick Knoble
On Apr 13, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just don't have the time. Or are you a chronic procrastinator like me? This is one tough habit to break. Rick Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done! On Apr 13, 2012, at 11:23 AM, Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net wrote: I just don't have the time. Or are you a chronic procrastinator like me? This is one tough habit to break. Rick Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Dan Penoff
Disconnect one end of it and push/pull. You'll know if it's bad. Dan On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: How do you tell if a steering stabilizer is bad? Heck, how do you inspect bushings, ball joints, idler arm, etc.? I just replaced tie rod assemblies on

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Curt Raymond
I forget where you live but the CBBT avoids the WDC traffic and doesn't add a tremendous amount of distance. Fun too. -Curt Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:23:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Max Dillon meadedil...@bellsouth.net To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Rich Thomas
Well the easiest way(s) is to listen for clunking, feel the looseness in the steering (esp when it bounces over bumps and such), and just grab the tie rods and give them a shake -- if the joints are bad you can feel them rattle. Then jack up the front and give the wheels some tugs. --R On

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Fmiser Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 11:58 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done! Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: There is always a bit of slop in them. Adjusting the box too far to eliminate all free play will actually

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done! Disconnect one end of it and push/pull. You'll know if it's bad. Dan On Apr 13, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote: How do you tell if a steering stabilizer is bad? Heck, how do you inspect bushings, ball joints, idler arm, etc.? I

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-13 Thread Scott Ritchey
This sounds more like the idler arm check. -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 2:27 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done! Well

[MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-12 Thread Rich Thomas
Took the mamabenz to the shop today to get an alignment after the front suspension rebuild, drives very nicely. Still a bit of play in the steering, the box might need some work. Also had what felt like a dragging brake on the LF, I think the inner cylinder was not working well. Will have

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-12 Thread Max
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: Took the mamabenz to the shop today to get an alignment after the front suspension rebuild, Congrats! Sore muscles? I did a 123 front end over a weekend, quite sore for a few days. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD

Re: [MBZ] 300SD suspension rebuild done!

2012-04-12 Thread Allan Streib
Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net writes: Took the mamabenz to the shop today to get an alignment after the front suspension rebuild, drives very nicely. Still a bit of play in the steering, the box might need some work. There is always a bit of slop in them. Adjusting the

Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis

2012-01-30 Thread Mike Piles
$2000.00 -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis How much? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 29, 2012

Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis

2012-01-29 Thread Mike Piles
Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis On 18/01/2012 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What year? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Mike Pilesmikepi...@charter.net wrote: Anyone interested in a 300SD in ST Louis ___ How

Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis

2012-01-29 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy Bennell Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:44 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300SD in St Louis On 18/01/2012 11:33 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What year? Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2012, at 10:34 AM, Mike

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