Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
I am with Curt on this one. Sounds too good to be true, which means it usually is such. RB On 17/08/2015 2:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Seems like snake oil to me. I don't see stuff coming out of a garden sprayer somehow migrating 6" into existing concrete. I also don't see it being "like adding more cement to concrete". Big bold claims like that usually make me question... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? We could have used that stuff in the basement of our home in Indiana. When we did a radon test, it scored 9 PCI/L. 4 is considered the minimum threshold for remediation. Dan no longer glowing in the dark Sent from my iPad On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. Also try, http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other cementitious materials. RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6" depending on porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the concrete. Craig RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Well... logic says, if water can migrate up, why can't a material with the right surface tension migrate down? Concrete is porous not solid.. it expands and contracts with temperature changes. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Seems like snake oil to me. I don't see stuff coming out of a garden > sprayer somehow migrating 6" into existing concrete. I also don't see it > being "like adding more cement to concrete". Big bold claims like that > usually make me question... > -Curt > From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Dan Penoff > Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? > > We could have used that stuff in the basement of our home in Indiana. When > we did a radon test, it scored 9 PCI/L. > > 4 is considered the minimum threshold for remediation. > > Dan no longer glowing in the dark > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > >> These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx > >> Would likely work well in the shed too. > > > > Also try, > > > > http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm > > > >RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and > >residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal > >sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other > >cementitious materials. > > > >RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6" depending on > >porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate > >mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against > >water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. > > > >Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big > >box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be > >pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The > >internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never > >a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete > >denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the > >concrete. > > > > > > Craig > > > > > >> RB > >> > >>> On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > >>> IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice > >>> we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. > >>> Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If > >>> you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in > >>> my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll > >>> probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind > >>> is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The > >>> moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt > >>> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: > >>> Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew > >>> Strasfogel Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 > >>> 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So > >>> should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? > >>> > >>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Seems like snake oil to me. I don't see stuff coming out of a garden sprayer somehow migrating 6" into existing concrete. I also don't see it being "like adding more cement to concrete". Big bold claims like that usually make me question... -Curt From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Dan Penoff Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? We could have used that stuff in the basement of our home in Indiana. When we did a radon test, it scored 9 PCI/L. 4 is considered the minimum threshold for remediation. Dan no longer glowing in the dark Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx >> Would likely work well in the shed too. > > Also try, > > http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm > > RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and > residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal > sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other > cementitious materials. > > RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6" depending on > porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate > mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against > water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. > > Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big > box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be > pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The > internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never > a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete > denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the > concrete. > > > Craig > > >> RB >> >>> On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >>> IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice >>> we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. >>> Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If >>> you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in >>> my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll >>> probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind >>> is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The >>> moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt >>> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: >>> Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew >>> Strasfogel Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 >>> 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So >>> should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Thanks ! The radon seal material is what I have been looking for to use on my new shop floor. I'll be giving them a call.. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 12:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx > > Would likely work well in the shed too. > > Also try, > > http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm > > RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and > residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal > sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other > cementitious materials. > > RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6" depending on > porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate > mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against > water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. > > Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big > box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be > pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The > internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never > a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete > denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the > concrete. > > > Craig > > > > RB > > > > On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > > IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice > > > we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. > > > Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If > > > you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in > > > my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll > > > probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind > > > is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The > > > moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt > > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew > > > Strasfogel Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 > > > 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So > > > should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > > > > >> wrote: > > >> Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the > > >> carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. > > >> > > >> Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) > > >> > > >> 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. > > >> > > >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < > > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and > > >>> evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious > > >>> paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor > > >>> carpet? > > >>> > > >>> Wilton > > >>> > > >>> - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" < > > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > >>> Cc: "Dimitri" > > >>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM > > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> You can seal it if you like. > > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > > >>>> > > >>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > > >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >>>>> > > >>>>> I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need > > >>>>> to paint > > >>>>> the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an > > >>>>> indoor/outdoor > > >>>>> carpet? > > >>>>> ___ > > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>>>> > > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.ok
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
We could have used that stuff in the basement of our home in Indiana. When we did a radon test, it scored 9 PCI/L. 4 is considered the minimum threshold for remediation. Dan no longer glowing in the dark Sent from my iPad > On Aug 17, 2015, at 3:01 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx >> Would likely work well in the shed too. > > Also try, > > http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm > >RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and >residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal >sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other >cementitious materials. > >RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6" depending on >porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate >mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against >water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. > >Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big >box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be >pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The >internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never >a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete >denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the >concrete. > > > Craig > > >> RB >> >>> On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >>> IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice >>> we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. >>> Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If >>> you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in >>> my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll >>> probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind >>> is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The >>> moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt >>> From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: >>> Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew >>> Strasfogel Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 >>> 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So >>> should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? >>> >>> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 11:34:36 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: > These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx > Would likely work well in the shed too. Also try, http://www.radonseal.com/radonseal-mitigation.htm RadonSeal® has been the leading concrete sealer for commercial and residential projects since late 1990's. It is a reactive internal sealer for poured concrete, concrete blocks, mortar, and other cementitious materials. RadonSeal penetrates deep into concrete (up to 6" depending on porosity), reacts, expands inside the pores, and cures as a silicate mineral. Once cured, it will seal your concrete permanently against water seepage, efflorescence, water vapor, and even radon gas. Unlike common sealers (coatings) and waterproofing paints sold in big box stores, RadonSeal will never peel or wear away. It cannot be pushed out from the pores regardless of hydrostatic pressure! The internal seal becomes integral to the concrete itself – there is never a need to re-apply the sealer again! RadonSeal will make your concrete denser and stronger - it is like injecting more cement into the concrete. Craig > RB > > On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: > > IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice > > we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. > > Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If > > you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in > > my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll > > probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind > > is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The > > moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt > > From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew > > Strasfogel Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 > > 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So > > should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? > > > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > > >> wrote: > >> Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the > >> carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. > >> > >> Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) > >> > >> 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. > >> > >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and > >>> evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious > >>> paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor > >>> carpet? > >>> > >>> Wilton > >>> > >>> - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > >>> Cc: "Dimitri" > >>> Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? > >>> > >>> > >>> You can seal it if you like. > >>>> Sent from my iPhone > >>>> > >>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > >>>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need > >>>>> to paint > >>>>> the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an > >>>>> indoor/outdoor > >>>>> carpet? > >>>>> ___ > >>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>>> > >>>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>>> > >>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >>>>> > >>>> ___ > >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>>> > >>>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>>> > >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>>> &
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
These work well in basements. http://www.dricore.com/en/index.aspx Would likely work well in the shed too. RB On 17/08/2015 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Dimitri" Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
I think I got my answer - thanks all. On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 11:12 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The right way to do it is to tear up the concrete, put down a proper vapor > barrier and put down a new floor. > > Then hire a pro put put an epoxy coating on it. > > After that, if you desire, you can glue the carpet over the top. > > Painting concrete floors only makes a mess for the next treatment after > the paint peels. > > If you do it properly, (rip it out, vapor barrier and new concrete) you > can have the concrete colored, stained, finished to look like bricks, > stones or whatever you like. You can always cover stained concrete with a > rug. You just can't get the rug to stick to peeling paint or DIY epoxy. > > The industrial epoxy is different stuff than the DIY "epoxy" > > > Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
The right way to do it is to tear up the concrete, put down a proper vapor barrier and put down a new floor. Then hire a pro put put an epoxy coating on it. After that, if you desire, you can glue the carpet over the top. Painting concrete floors only makes a mess for the next treatment after the paint peels. If you do it properly, (rip it out, vapor barrier and new concrete) you can have the concrete colored, stained, finished to look like bricks, stones or whatever you like. You can always cover stained concrete with a rug. You just can't get the rug to stick to peeling paint or DIY epoxy. The industrial epoxy is different stuff than the DIY "epoxy" Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
No paint; install the I/O carpet and enjoy it. 'Thought that was decided months ago. I have spoken. ;<) Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and > evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. > Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "Dimitri" > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? > > > You can seal it if you like. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to >>> paint >>> the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an >>> indoor/outdoor >>> carpet? >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
IIRC you didn't put a vapor barrier under the concrete so the advice we as a group gave you last year was a pretty resounding neither. Your problem is that moisture WILL creep up through the concrete. If you paint it the paint will fail rapidly, just the like the paint in my basement does and for the same reasons. If you put carpet it'll probably mold like Grant suggests.Probably the best option to my mind is to cover the floor with plastic and deck it with plywood. The moisture will migrate along the plastic and out the edges... -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Monday, August 17, 2015 10:56 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to > close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. > > Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) > > 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and > > evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. > > Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? > > > > Wilton > > > > - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Cc: "Dimitri" > > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? > > > > > > You can seal it if you like. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to > >>> paint > >>> the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an > >>> indoor/outdoor > >>> carpet? > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Hardy har har. So should I paint the floor OR cover it with I/O carpet? On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to > close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. > > Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) > > 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. > > On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and > > evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. > > Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? > > > > Wilton > > > > - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > > Cc: "Dimitri" > > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? > > > > > > You can seal it if you like. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to > >>> paint > >>> the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an > >>> indoor/outdoor > >>> carpet? > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
Yes, it would disrupt the ecological cycle of mold growth in the carpet to close off it's water supply by sealing the concrete. Pretty sure that's how it happens in the humid NorthEast... ;)) 118°F here today.. moisture is not a problem.. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 8:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and > evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. > Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "Dimitri" > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? > > > You can seal it if you like. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to >>> paint >>> the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an >>> indoor/outdoor >>> carpet? >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
You have to assume He doesn't know what he's doing, which is why he posted the query. :). On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 11:14 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and > evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. > Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "Dimitri" > Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? > > > > You can seal it if you like. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to >>> paint >>> the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an >>> indoor/outdoor >>> carpet? >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
But, if any moisture comes up through it, ya want it to escape and evaporate immediately, instead of accumulating under impervious paint. Isn't that the reason he decided to use indoor/outdoor carpet? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dimitri via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Dimitri" Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:53 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
You can seal it if you like. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2015, at 10:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint > the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor > carpet? > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
No. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2015 10:47 PM Subject: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint? I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Concrete paint?
I had a slab poured a year ago before erecting a shed. Do I need to paint the concrete floor now? Is this advisable if I'm getting an indoor/outdoor carpet? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Thanks for all the great input. I'm going to Home Depot tomorrow for some nice green astroturf. :) On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 11:20 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > My hangar floor is painted concrete. I don't know what kind of paint, nor > how old it is, but I do know that the Chem Tool carb cleaner will dissolve > it. It is also VERY slippery when wet. I ended up buying a pair of shoes > meant for working on wet slippery surfaces from New Balance - they make as > much difference as studded snow tires vs. worn out old tires on ice/snow. > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > No known problems due to the coating, other than it's a bit slick when > wet. > > > > Mitch. > > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
My hangar floor is painted concrete. I don't know what kind of paint, nor how old it is, but I do know that the Chem Tool carb cleaner will dissolve it. It is also VERY slippery when wet. I ended up buying a pair of shoes meant for working on wet slippery surfaces from New Balance - they make as much difference as studded snow tires vs. worn out old tires on ice/snow. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > No known problems due to the coating, other than it's a bit slick when wet. > > Mitch. > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Dimitri's? Its beautiful... -Curt naaa andrew's. The one that matches his new shed ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
My parents bought a five gallon pail of some clear, volatile/smelly concrete sealant made by BASF, had a gallon or so left after putting two coats on their new 24x40 garage. Unfortunately, they took the leftover stuff to the county's annual 'free toxic waste recycling day', so I can neither use it on my garage floor nor tell you the product number. Slab was poured over a packed sand base 4-5 years ago. No known problems due to the coating, other than it's a bit slick when wet. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Tidy? Huge? Heated?? On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:51 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Garage... > From: Andrew Strasfogel > To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:51 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor > > Dimitri's what is beautiful? > > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Dimitri's? Its beautiful... > > -Curt > > From: Curly McLain via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor > > I wanna see pictures of the new 4 car garage > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Garage... From: Andrew Strasfogel To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:51 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor Dimitri's what is beautiful? On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Dimitri's? Its beautiful... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor I wanna see pictures of the new 4 car garage ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Dimitri's what is beautiful? On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 7:19 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Dimitri's? Its beautiful... > > -Curt > > From: Curly McLain via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:47 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor > > I wanna see pictures of the new 4 car garage > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Dimitri's? Its beautiful... -Curt From: Curly McLain via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 5:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor I wanna see pictures of the new 4 car garage ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Its probably going to be tough to keep any coating on the concrete. Look for something specific for concrete. I know POR15 is supposed to be good for it but you'll spend $$$. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor Not on top - not sure about beneath. It was poured by a licensed contractor. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint >> should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? >> > > Does the concrete have a vapor barrier (heavy plastic sheet) underneath? > > Any sealer on top? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Make sure it's short pile and porous - not on a solid sheet of plastic. Ya gotta let the moisture escape to atmosphere. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor I like Wilton's idea - I/O carpet. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Use some concrete stain, you can get lots of colors and it won't come off --R or exposed aggregate. If the concrete is still fresh, you can do that with acid and a burlap bag (tater sack) Normally it is done when the concrete is set but not hard. At that time you wash away the top of the concrete to expose the aggregate. If you use a washed river rock or pea gravel for aggregate, it can be very attractive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
I wanna see pictures of the new 4 car garage ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
What will you store in the shed? I always end up with an oily mess under things like the snowblower and rototiller. IF you insist upon painting, my suggestion is to put down some plywood on top of the concrete and paint the plywood. RB On 04/06/2015 3:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I like Wilton's idea - I/O carpet. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Use some concrete stain, you can get lots of colors and it won't come off --R or exposed aggregate. If the concrete is still fresh, you can do that with acid and a burlap bag (tater sack) Normally it is done when the concrete is set but not hard. At that time you wash away the top of the concrete to expose the aggregate. If you use a washed river rock or pea gravel for aggregate, it can be very attractive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Still on the drawing board. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So what about the floor in your second shed? > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > > On June 4, 2015 4:56:19 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >I like Wilton's idea - I/O carpet. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
So what about the floor in your second shed? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On June 4, 2015 4:56:19 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: >I like Wilton's idea - I/O carpet. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
I like Wilton's idea - I/O carpet. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Use some concrete stain, you can get lots of colors and it won't come off >> >> --R >> >> > or exposed aggregate. If the concrete is still fresh, you can do that > with acid and a burlap bag (tater sack) Normally it is done when the > concrete is set but not hard. At that time you wash away the top of the > concrete to expose the aggregate. > > If you use a washed river rock or pea gravel for aggregate, it can be very > attractive. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Use some concrete stain, you can get lots of colors and it won't come off --R or exposed aggregate. If the concrete is still fresh, you can do that with acid and a burlap bag (tater sack) Normally it is done when the concrete is set but not hard. At that time you wash away the top of the concrete to expose the aggregate. If you use a washed river rock or pea gravel for aggregate, it can be very attractive. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Use some concrete stain, you can get lots of colors and it won't come off --R On 6/4/15 3:58 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: Physics'ill work EVERY TIME. Did y'all catch what I said about that slab in the MOJAVE DESERT? This one's in MARYLAND, isn't it? Ya can't stop Mother Nature. You can only be aware of it's influence and manage it's effect on ya life. I have spoken. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor >There is no vapor barrier but the contractor says it'll be ok to paint >it. NO SKIN OFF HIS BACK WHEN THE PAINT PEELS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
You need another shed. Andrew "Two Sheds" Strasfogel Dan trying not to be seen Sent from my iPad > On Jun 4, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > There is no vapor barrier but the contractor says it'll be ok to paint it. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Physics'ill work EVERY TIME. Did y'all catch what I said about that slab in the MOJAVE DESERT? This one's in MARYLAND, isn't it? Ya can't stop Mother Nature. You can only be aware of it's influence and manage it's effect on ya life. I have spoken. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 3:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor >There is no vapor barrier but the contractor says it'll be ok to paint >it. NO SKIN OFF HIS BACK WHEN THE PAINT PEELS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
That contractor is not gonna hafta maintain that paint. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 3:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor There is no vapor barrier but the contractor says it'll be ok to paint it. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: GO ahead! I'd give whatever you put on a 90% chance of peeling/flaking off within 5 years. Do it just before you want to sell, so it looks purdy and the new owner has to deal with the flaking paint. I was hoping to apply something myself w/o assistance from another contractor... On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: 'Sure hope that contractor was concerned/conscientious enough to pour it on a plastic vapor barrier. > Wilton > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Yes, the better (BEST) option is to NOT paint it. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Randy Bennell via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Randy Bennell" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor On 04/06/2015 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? ___ Leave it be? It is a garden shed. Why worry about covering the concrete? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
There is no vapor barrier but the contractor says it'll be ok to paint it. NO SKIN OFF HIS BACK WHEN THE PAINT PEELS ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
You have to wait 6 months or one year can't remember for the concrete to fully cure before you paint. Why would you want to paint anyway? Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 4, 2015, at 3:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > There is no vapor barrier but the contractor says it'll be ok to paint it. > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> GO ahead! I'd give whatever you put on a 90% chance of peeling/flaking >> off within 5 years. Do it just before you want to sell, so it looks purdy >> and the new owner has to deal with the flaking paint. >> >> I was hoping to apply something myself w/o assistance from another >>> contractor... >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> 'Sure hope that contractor was concerned/conscientious enough to pour it on a plastic vapor barrier. > Wilton >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
There is no vapor barrier but the contractor says it'll be ok to paint it. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > GO ahead! I'd give whatever you put on a 90% chance of peeling/flaking > off within 5 years. Do it just before you want to sell, so it looks purdy > and the new owner has to deal with the flaking paint. > > I was hoping to apply something myself w/o assistance from another >> contractor... >> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> 'Sure hope that contractor was concerned/conscientious enough to pour it >>> on a plastic vapor barrier. >>> >>> > Wilton >> > >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
GO ahead! I'd give whatever you put on a 90% chance of peeling/flaking off within 5 years. Do it just before you want to sell, so it looks purdy and the new owner has to deal with the flaking paint. I was hoping to apply something myself w/o assistance from another contractor... On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: 'Sure hope that contractor was concerned/conscientious enough to pour it on a plastic vapor barrier. > Wilton > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Leave it be? It is a garden shed. Why worry about covering the concrete? RB Along that line: Cover it with 2" or more of dirt/gravel/peanut shells etc.. you'll be able to stand on it much longer at a time. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
On 04/06/2015 10:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? ___ Leave it be? It is a garden shed. Why worry about covering the concrete? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
'Mighty hard to "correct" what wasn't done before the concrete was poured. Any covering on a slab without a vapor barrier under it must be porous to allow the moisture to escape to atmosphere. A bit late, but ask the contractor if the slab has a vapor barrier beneath it. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor I was hoping to apply something myself w/o assistance from another contractor... On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: 'Sure hope that contractor was concerned/conscientious enough to pour it on a plastic vapor barrier. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor Not on top - not sure about beneath. It was poured by a licensed contractor. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? Does the concrete have a vapor barrier (heavy plastic sheet) underneath? Any sealer on top? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
In '75, we had a problem of moisture making its way through concrete slab in George Air Force Base laundry - in Mojave Desert. For MANY years, paint, epoxy, etc., etc., would not stay on it. "My guys" (civil engineering painters) took me to see it and asked if I might have any suggestions. The painted surface had little bubbles (some not so little) all over it. Guess what I found when I broke a few of the bubbles - yep - water. I told 'em, "Let me think about it coupla days." 'Just happened to go to Sears in Victorville that evening. 'Walked into the appliance/tools area and suddenly had the answer - the area had indoor/outdoor carpet on the floor! 'Next day I told "my guys,"Scrape the paint off the floor and install indoor/outdoor carpet of appropriate color and texture." Shonuff - problem solved! Wilton - Original Message - From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 1:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor >Not on top - not sure about beneath. It was poured by a licensed contractor. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? Does the concrete have a vapor barrier (heavy plastic sheet) underneath? > Any sealer on top? > Probably no plastic under unless you specified it and saw the plastic with your own eyes. that means that most paints won't stay stuck because of moisture wicking up through the concrete. I had trouble with epoxy sticking with a sealer on top and no barrier under. Epoxy sticks better than paint. Talk to an epoxy contractor and see if they will guarantee their floor and fix it if the epoxy does not stay stuck. Not cheap, but the industrial floor epoxy is better than any you or I can buy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
I was hoping to apply something myself w/o assistance from another contractor... On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 1:39 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > 'Sure hope that contractor was concerned/conscientious enough to pour it > on a plastic vapor barrier. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" > Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:56 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor > > > Not on top - not sure about beneath. It was poured by a licensed >> contractor. >> >> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint >>> >>>> should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? >>>> >>>> >>> Does the concrete have a vapor barrier (heavy plastic sheet) underneath? >>> >>> Any sealer on top? >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
'Sure hope that contractor was concerned/conscientious enough to pour it on a plastic vapor barrier. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor Not on top - not sure about beneath. It was poured by a licensed contractor. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? Does the concrete have a vapor barrier (heavy plastic sheet) underneath? Any sealer on top? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Not on top - not sure about beneath. It was poured by a licensed contractor. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? Does the concrete have a vapor barrier (heavy plastic sheet) underneath? > Any sealer on top? > Probably no plastic under unless you specified it and saw the plastic with your own eyes. that means that most paints won't stay stuck because of moisture wicking up through the concrete. I had trouble with epoxy sticking with a sealer on top and no barrier under. Epoxy sticks better than paint. Talk to an epoxy contractor and see if they will guarantee their floor and fix it if the epoxy does not stay stuck. Not cheap, but the industrial floor epoxy is better than any you or I can buy. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Not on top - not sure about beneath. It was poured by a licensed contractor. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:56 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint >> should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? >> > > Does the concrete have a vapor barrier (heavy plastic sheet) underneath? > > Any sealer on top? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? Does the concrete have a vapor barrier (heavy plastic sheet) underneath? Any sealer on top? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Concrete paint or other covering for shed floor
Our new garden shed is up, built on a concrete slab. What sort of paint should we use on the floor - or is there a better option? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com