Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

ED, Curley, et al.
95, ME! Geez.
I have disks and licences for all windblows from windows 1.1 on up, except ME 
(Huurk!).
I was able to get the laptop to go into win10 safe mode with F8, just the once, 
and chose don't load drivers, thus allowing Bios update.
Still won't get past Starting windows. New MB may be in the future, or BFH.
Thanks for your good suggestions and support, it is far superior to HP's.
Fred the Halfwit.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

I have several good, unused Winder 95 licenses if anyone needs em.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Dan.
Tried that method and I could not got it to boot.
The laptop did boot into windows without drivers loading (F7) and a successful 
bios update was achieved.
Maybe it is time for a new MB?
Thanks for your input.
Fred.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02693833

Second section - using an external device.

You're welcome.

Dan, Certified HP Laptop, Desktop and Portable Devices Technician

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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I have several good, unused Winder 95 licenses if anyone needs em.


Ed Booher via Mercedes 
May 25, 2016 at 12:57 PMvia Postbox 


Also on that note, every Windows you listed has the NT kernel. Have you
attempted to go full on crazy and install Windows ME?




Ed Booher via Mercedes 
May 25, 2016 at 12:55 PMvia Postbox 


Have you tried Free DOS? Should let you boot to a regular DOS prompt then
run an x86 Microsoft style application.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
May 25, 2016 at 12:17 PMvia Postbox 


Greetings from LaLa Land.

I have an HP Pavilion DV6-6153cl that will not load windows of any 
flavor. 2k, Xp, Vista, Win7 and 10 have all the same failure, though 
Ubuntu12 works very well. The Win OS installs fine and dandy but 
stalls at the "Starting Windows" screen with pulsing four color win 
logo. This is a known problem with some HP laptops and there are a lot 
of fixes on the web. The hardware has been extensively tested and, 
where appropriate, swapped out for known good and further tested in 
another machine. The BIOS in this machine is by Insyde currently F.17 
and the replacement one is F.1B. How the hell does one reflash the 
BIOS without windows !? I have tried 12 different "fixes" and none of 
them will load a BIOS file meant for a windows application. Trying to 
contact HP is a study in frustration.


Is there a SIMPLE way to boot the laptop and reflash the BIOS from a CD?

Simple mind wants to know.

Any and all reasonable suggestions welcomed.

Mad Fred.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The dark side demands complete loyalty.  You will be assimilated  (to 
mix a movie and tv)



Ed Booher via Mercedes 
May 25, 2016 at 12:56 PMvia Postbox 

Some of us, who happen to administrate *NIX professionally, have 
Windows on
their desktops because that is the corporate line. Oh Woe to the admin 
that

must use a tool not of their design. Like when I need a steering wheel
puller and all I have is a sledgehammer.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <


Curley McLain 
May 25, 2016 at 12:21 PMvia Postbox 


I ditched windows several yrs ago.  NO regrets.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
May 25, 2016 at 12:17 PMvia Postbox 


Greetings from LaLa Land.

I have an HP Pavilion DV6-6153cl that will not load windows of any 
flavor. 2k, Xp, Vista, Win7 and 10 have all the same failure, though 
Ubuntu12 works very well. The Win OS installs fine and dandy but 
stalls at the "Starting Windows" screen with pulsing four color win 
logo. This is a known problem with some HP laptops and there are a lot 
of fixes on the web. The hardware has been extensively tested and, 
where appropriate, swapped out for known good and further tested in 
another machine. The BIOS in this machine is by Insyde currently F.17 
and the replacement one is F.1B. How the hell does one reflash the 
BIOS without windows !? I have tried 12 different "fixes" and none of 
them will load a BIOS file meant for a windows application. Trying to 
contact HP is a study in frustration.


Is there a SIMPLE way to boot the laptop and reflash the BIOS from a CD?

Simple mind wants to know.

Any and all reasonable suggestions welcomed.

Mad Fred.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

ED.
Yup. Tried the freedos route and it will not run the BIOS file.
Thanks for the info.
Fred.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

Have you tried Free DOS? Should let you boot to a regular DOS prompt then
run an x86 Microsoft style application.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c02693833

Second section - using an external device.

You're welcome.

Dan, Certified HP Laptop, Desktop and Portable Devices Technician

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> On May 25, 2016, at 1:17 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Greetings from LaLa Land.
> 
> I have an HP Pavilion DV6-6153cl that will not load windows of any flavor. 
> 2k, Xp, Vista, Win7 and 10 have all the same failure, though Ubuntu12 works 
> very well. The Win OS installs fine and dandy but stalls at the "Starting 
> Windows" screen with pulsing four color win logo. This is a known problem 
> with some HP laptops and there are a lot of fixes on the web. The hardware 
> has been extensively tested and, where appropriate, swapped out for known 
> good and further tested in another machine. The BIOS in this machine is by 
> Insyde currently F.17 and the replacement one is F.1B. How the hell does one 
> reflash the BIOS without windows !? I have tried 12 different "fixes" and 
> none of them will load a BIOS file meant for a windows application. Trying to 
> contact HP is a study in frustration.
> 
> Is there a SIMPLE way to boot the laptop and reflash the BIOS from a CD?
> 
> Simple mind wants to know.
> 
> Any and all reasonable suggestions welcomed.
> 
> Mad Fred.
> 
> 
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Also on that note, every Windows you listed has the NT kernel. Have you
attempted to go full on crazy and install Windows ME?

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Ed Booher  wrote:

> Have you tried Free DOS? Should let you boot to a regular DOS prompt then
> run an x86 Microsoft style application.
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings from LaLa Land.
>>
>> I have an HP Pavilion DV6-6153cl that will not load windows of any
>> flavor. 2k, Xp, Vista, Win7 and 10 have all the same failure, though
>> Ubuntu12 works very well. The Win OS installs fine and dandy but stalls at
>> the "Starting Windows" screen with pulsing four color win logo. This is a
>> known problem with some HP laptops and there are a lot of fixes on the web.
>> The hardware has been extensively tested and, where appropriate, swapped
>> out for known good and further tested in another machine. The BIOS in this
>> machine is by Insyde currently F.17 and the replacement one is F.1B. How
>> the hell does one reflash the BIOS without windows !? I have tried 12
>> different "fixes" and none of them will load a BIOS file meant for a
>> windows application. Trying to contact HP is a study in frustration.
>>
>> Is there a SIMPLE way to boot the laptop and reflash the BIOS from a CD?
>>
>> Simple mind wants to know.
>>
>> Any and all reasonable suggestions welcomed.
>>
>> Mad Fred.
>>
>>
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>> Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Some of us, who happen to administrate *NIX professionally, have Windows on
their desktops because that is the corporate line. Oh Woe to the admin that
must use a tool not of their design. Like when I need a steering wheel
puller and all I have is a sledgehammer.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I ditched windows several yrs ago.  NO regrets.
>
> Fred Moir via Mercedes 
>> May 25, 2016 at 12:17 PMvia Postbox <
>> https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
>> >
>>
>> Greetings from LaLa Land.
>>
>> I have an HP Pavilion DV6-6153cl that will not load windows of any
>> flavor. 2k, Xp, Vista, Win7 and 10 have all the same failure, though
>> Ubuntu12 works very well. The Win OS installs fine and dandy but stalls at
>> the "Starting Windows" screen with pulsing four color win logo. This is a
>> known problem with some HP laptops and there are a lot of fixes on the web.
>> The hardware has been extensively tested and, where appropriate, swapped
>> out for known good and further tested in another machine. The BIOS in this
>> machine is by Insyde currently F.17 and the replacement one is F.1B. How
>> the hell does one reflash the BIOS without windows !? I have tried 12
>> different "fixes" and none of them will load a BIOS file meant for a
>> windows application. Trying to contact HP is a study in frustration.
>>
>> Is there a SIMPLE way to boot the laptop and reflash the BIOS from a CD?
>>
>> Simple mind wants to know.
>>
>> Any and all reasonable suggestions welcomed.
>>
>> Mad Fred.
>>
>>
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>> Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Have you tried Free DOS? Should let you boot to a regular DOS prompt then
run an x86 Microsoft style application.

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Greetings from LaLa Land.
>
> I have an HP Pavilion DV6-6153cl that will not load windows of any flavor.
> 2k, Xp, Vista, Win7 and 10 have all the same failure, though Ubuntu12 works
> very well. The Win OS installs fine and dandy but stalls at the "Starting
> Windows" screen with pulsing four color win logo. This is a known problem
> with some HP laptops and there are a lot of fixes on the web. The hardware
> has been extensively tested and, where appropriate, swapped out for known
> good and further tested in another machine. The BIOS in this machine is by
> Insyde currently F.17 and the replacement one is F.1B. How the hell does
> one reflash the BIOS without windows !? I have tried 12 different "fixes"
> and none of them will load a BIOS file meant for a windows application.
> Trying to contact HP is a study in frustration.
>
> Is there a SIMPLE way to boot the laptop and reflash the BIOS from a CD?
>
> Simple mind wants to know.
>
> Any and all reasonable suggestions welcomed.
>
> Mad Fred.
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I ditched windows several yrs ago.  NO regrets.


Fred Moir via Mercedes 
May 25, 2016 at 12:17 PMvia Postbox 


Greetings from LaLa Land.

I have an HP Pavilion DV6-6153cl that will not load windows of any 
flavor. 2k, Xp, Vista, Win7 and 10 have all the same failure, though 
Ubuntu12 works very well. The Win OS installs fine and dandy but 
stalls at the "Starting Windows" screen with pulsing four color win 
logo. This is a known problem with some HP laptops and there are a lot 
of fixes on the web. The hardware has been extensively tested and, 
where appropriate, swapped out for known good and further tested in 
another machine. The BIOS in this machine is by Insyde currently F.17 
and the replacement one is F.1B. How the hell does one reflash the 
BIOS without windows !? I have tried 12 different "fixes" and none of 
them will load a BIOS file meant for a windows application. Trying to 
contact HP is a study in frustration.


Is there a SIMPLE way to boot the laptop and reflash the BIOS from a CD?

Simple mind wants to know.

Any and all reasonable suggestions welcomed.

Mad Fred.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Computer question

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curley.
If it wasn't my grand-daughter's machine it would have be given to Goodwill, or 
smashed with a BFH!
Fred.

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I ditched windows several yrs ago.  NO regrets.
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[MBZ] OT Computer question

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Greetings from LaLa Land.

I have an HP Pavilion DV6-6153cl that will not load windows of any flavor. 2k, 
Xp, Vista, Win7 and 10 have all the same failure, though Ubuntu12 works very 
well. The Win OS installs fine and dandy but stalls at the "Starting Windows" 
screen with pulsing four color win logo. This is a known problem with some HP 
laptops and there are a lot of fixes on the web. The hardware has been 
extensively tested and, where appropriate, swapped out for known good and 
further tested in another machine. The BIOS in this machine is by Insyde 
currently F.17 and the replacement one is F.1B. How the hell does one reflash 
the BIOS without windows !? I have tried 12 different "fixes" and none of them 
will load a BIOS file meant for a windows application. Trying to contact HP is 
a study in frustration.

Is there a SIMPLE way to boot the laptop and reflash the BIOS from a CD?

Simple mind wants to know.

Any and all reasonable suggestions welcomed.

Mad Fred.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer question

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Thanks Guys - Lots of great suggestions.  IMO the restore is the biggest 
concern - I was happy with Carbonite until I had to restore my email - 
then it was not so easy.


Thanks Guys -
Larry

On 12/16/2014 10:03 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

I use Time Machine, but I have not had to restore anything yet.

-- Jim


It is simple to restore.  Just go to the date you want to restore, 
find the files and drag them back to your HD (location you want them 
to go)  Same procedure for moving to a new machine.


Unfortunately, it does not provide offsite storage, and I don't think 
it is available for winders or penguins.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer question

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - Computer question

hello, I have been using Carbonite for several years.  i am not happy 
with it.  When files must be restored to a new computer or following a 
repair, it requires a tedious restoration procedure (IMO) so I am 
wondering if anyone has found anything they like better?

My subscription expires in March so I have a little time to analyze the 
possible replacements.   Does anyone have anything they like better?

Thanks --
LarryT
91 300D
78  240d

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer question

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 7:08 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 hello, I have been using Carbonite for several years.  i am not happy with
 it.  When files must be restored to a new computer or following a repair,
 it requires a tedious restoration procedure (IMO) so I am wondering if
 anyone has found anything they like better?


I use Mozy* on my wife's computer.  Cheap and automatic.  Of course it is
only as secure as your password, but when she switched computers last month
it was simple to get the files she wanted back.

On the house computers (storage) I use Cobian and a backup drive.  It is
rather complex so might not be the best choice.

I have used Nero BackItUp in the past, it was easy but I gather the newer
versions aren't very good.

Best,
Tim
*Disclosure, I work for the company that owns Mozy, although in a different
division, and I started using it before I started working here.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer question

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I use Time Machine, but I have not had to restore anything yet.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer question

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I use Time Machine, but I have not had to restore anything yet.

-- Jim


It is simple to restore.  Just go to the date you want to restore, 
find the files and drag them back to your HD (location you want them 
to go)  Same procedure for moving to a new machine.


Unfortunately, it does not provide offsite storage, and I don't think 
it is available for winders or penguins.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer question

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Unfortunately, it does not provide offsite storage, and I don't think 
it is available for winders or penguins.


My plan is for rotating out RAID members.  No winguins at
this house, so that's not a problem.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] OT computer question

[Randy Bennell]

As I said in my earlier post, I know little about computers and it 
appears some of you do, so I am going to ask for some advice here.


About 3 weeks or more ago my computer screen informed me that my hard 
drive was failing.
I called my computer fellow and he advised it was not likely a scam and 
came by and got my computer.
Within about 3 hours it was back with a new hard drive and the thing 
cloned so I should not notice any difference.

Seemed to be ok, but now I am getting some issues.

Microsoft had decided that my software is not genuine and I get multiple 
messages daily advising me that I need to fix it. It won't update either 
and I don't think that Windows Security Essentials is working.
I have tried to follow its directions on how to fix the problem but it 
will not do it. Initially I was directed to download a file and then it 
was supposed to download some larger file but it kept stalling out.
My computer fellow came by and had a quick look but said it was beyond 
him and he would send one of his tech guys over. They have not shown up 
yet. I have tried a number of different times to look online for 
solutions but so far to no avail.


Anyone know how tI can make  Microsoft satisfied that the software is 
genuine?


I know all that I said above is pretty vague. I also know I have the 
name of the file that Microsoft wanted met to downloand written down but 
I cannot lay my hands on it.


The other issue is relatively minor.
I use a title insurance  company that lets me fill in the forms and 
print the policy online.
I cannot get it to print. It is something in this computer's settings as 
I can log in at home and print policies there with no problem.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT computer question

[Greg Fiorentino]

Sometimes if you alter hardware M$ decides your install is bogus and may
disable some functions.  I think you can call them and resolve over the
phone.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT computer question

As I said in my earlier post, I know little about computers and it appears
some of you do, so I am going to ask for some advice here.

About 3 weeks or more ago my computer screen informed me that my hard drive
was failing.
I called my computer fellow and he advised it was not likely a scam and came
by and got my computer.
Within about 3 hours it was back with a new hard drive and the thing cloned
so I should not notice any difference.
Seemed to be ok, but now I am getting some issues.

Microsoft had decided that my software is not genuine and I get multiple
messages daily advising me that I need to fix it. It won't update either and
I don't think that Windows Security Essentials is working.
I have tried to follow its directions on how to fix the problem but it will
not do it. Initially I was directed to download a file and then it was
supposed to download some larger file but it kept stalling out.
My computer fellow came by and had a quick look but said it was beyond him
and he would send one of his tech guys over. They have not shown up yet. I
have tried a number of different times to look online for solutions but so
far to no avail.

Anyone know how tI can make  Microsoft satisfied that the software is
genuine?

I know all that I said above is pretty vague. I also know I have the name of
the file that Microsoft wanted met to downloand written down but I cannot
lay my hands on it.

The other issue is relatively minor.
I use a title insurance  company that lets me fill in the forms and print
the policy online.
I cannot get it to print. It is something in this computer's settings as I
can log in at home and print policies there with no problem.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT computer question

[Rick Knoble]

On Dec 11, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 Within about 3 hours it was back with a new hard drive and the thing cloned 
 so I should not notice any difference.
 Seemed to be ok, but now I am getting some issues.
 
 Microsoft had decided that my software is not genuine and I get multiple 
 messages daily advising me that I need to fix it. It won't update either and 
 I don't think that Windows Security Essentials is working.


That's not good. If you have done anything else hardware wise to the machine 
you may have to reactivate Windows. If I recall correctly, Windows will let you 
make two hardware changes to a machine and then it decides you are trying to 
use their software illegally. 

If you haven't upgraded the machine before, you will have to have the COA and 
enter that. I have had to call Microsoft before to validate the operating 
system on a computer I had done some work to. 

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/activating-windows-frequently-asked-questions

http://searchitchannel.techtarget.com/feature/How-Windows-7-hardware-upgrades-affect-licensing

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Re: [MBZ] OT computer question

[Tim Crone]

You can also just call.  Since it is an activation problem it should have
the number in the popup, and I believe activation support is free.  The
couple times I've had to use it, the call has been relatively painless.
 They can give you a new code if your current one is not working.

Best,
Tim


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 On Dec 11, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

  Within about 3 hours it was back with a new hard drive and the thing
 cloned so I should not notice any difference.
  Seemed to be ok, but now I am getting some issues.
 
  Microsoft had decided that my software is not genuine and I get multiple
 messages daily advising me that I need to fix it. It won't update either
 and I don't think that Windows Security Essentials is working.


 That's not good. If you have done anything else hardware wise to the
 machine you may have to reactivate Windows. If I recall correctly, Windows
 will let you make two hardware changes to a machine and then it decides you
 are trying to use their software illegally.

 If you haven't upgraded the machine before, you will have to have the COA
 and enter that. I have had to call Microsoft before to validate the
 operating system on a computer I had done some work to.


 http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/activating-windows-frequently-asked-questions


 http://searchitchannel.techtarget.com/feature/How-Windows-7-hardware-upgrades-affect-licensing

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Re: [MBZ] OT computer question

[Rich Thomas]

Yeah I did something similar some years ago when a HD crashed, I 
reloaded the OS on a new HD and it was wonky, I called some MSFT number 
and if I recall it was automated, gave me some new activation key or 
something to get it working again.


--R


On 12/11/13 3:52 PM, Tim Crone wrote:

You can also just call.  Since it is an activation problem it should have
the number in the popup, and I believe activation support is free.  The
couple times I've had to use it, the call has been relatively painless.
  They can give you a new code if your current one is not working.

Best,
Tim


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 3:36 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:


On Dec 11, 2013, at 2:13 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


Within about 3 hours it was back with a new hard drive and the thing

cloned so I should not notice any difference.

Seemed to be ok, but now I am getting some issues.

Microsoft had decided that my software is not genuine and I get multiple

messages daily advising me that I need to fix it. It won't update either
and I don't think that Windows Security Essentials is working.


That's not good. If you have done anything else hardware wise to the
machine you may have to reactivate Windows. If I recall correctly, Windows
will let you make two hardware changes to a machine and then it decides you
are trying to use their software illegally.

If you haven't upgraded the machine before, you will have to have the COA
and enter that. I have had to call Microsoft before to validate the
operating system on a computer I had done some work to.


http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/activating-windows-frequently-asked-questions


http://searchitchannel.techtarget.com/feature/How-Windows-7-hardware-upgrades-affect-licensing

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Re: [MBZ] OT computer question

[Randy Bennell]

So, any idea why my computer will not download the applet that MS is 
trying to use to log into my computer remotely?
Is there some security setting or something that causes it to just stall 
out and sit there?


I have spent time on the phone with 2 MS young ladies who sound to me 
like they are Phillipino but am getting no where so far.


Randy

On 11/12/2013 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

Sometimes if you alter hardware M$ decides your install is bogus and may
disable some functions.  I think you can call them and resolve over the
phone.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Bennell
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT computer question

As I said in my earlier post, I know little about computers and it appears
some of you do, so I am going to ask for some advice here.

About 3 weeks or more ago my computer screen informed me that my hard drive
was failing.
I called my computer fellow and he advised it was not likely a scam and came
by and got my computer.
Within about 3 hours it was back with a new hard drive and the thing cloned
so I should not notice any difference.
Seemed to be ok, but now I am getting some issues.

Microsoft had decided that my software is not genuine and I get multiple
messages daily advising me that I need to fix it. It won't update either and
I don't think that Windows Security Essentials is working.
I have tried to follow its directions on how to fix the problem but it will
not do it. Initially I was directed to download a file and then it was
supposed to download some larger file but it kept stalling out.
My computer fellow came by and had a quick look but said it was beyond him
and he would send one of his tech guys over. They have not shown up yet. I
have tried a number of different times to look online for solutions but so
far to no avail.

Anyone know how tI can make  Microsoft satisfied that the software is
genuine?

I know all that I said above is pretty vague. I also know I have the name of
the file that Microsoft wanted met to downloand written down but I cannot
lay my hands on it.

The other issue is relatively minor.
I use a title insurance  company that lets me fill in the forms and print
the policy online.
I cannot get it to print. It is something in this computer's settings as I
can log in at home and print policies there with no problem.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT computer question

[Mitch Haley]

Would using Activation Backup and Restore to backup the activation key before 
removing the old hard drive have prevented the whole authentication problem?


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT computer question

[Rich Thomas]

Are you using whatever that MS browser is (this could be a clue)? 
Would Firefox or Chrome do it?  Can you download other stuff?


--R


On 12/11/13 5:28 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:


So, any idea why my computer will not download the applet that MS is 
trying to use to log into my computer remotely?
Is there some security setting or something that causes it to just 
stall out and sit there?


I have spent time on the phone with 2 MS young ladies who sound to me 
like they are Phillipino but am getting no where so far.


Randy




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Re: [MBZ] OT computer question

[Randy Bennell]

I have just spent the past couple of hours on the phone with 3 nice 
ladies in the Phillipines who did their best but gave up on me. The 
final result is a suggestion that there is nothing wrong with Windows 
but that I have a virus on my computer.

I will call my computer fellow again and let him try again.

Randy

On 11/12/2013 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote:

Sometimes if you alter hardware M$ decides your install is bogus and may
disable some functions.  I think you can call them and resolve over the
phone.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Bennell
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2013 12:14 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT computer question

As I said in my earlier post, I know little about computers and it appears
some of you do, so I am going to ask for some advice here.

About 3 weeks or more ago my computer screen informed me that my hard drive
was failing.
I called my computer fellow and he advised it was not likely a scam and came
by and got my computer.
Within about 3 hours it was back with a new hard drive and the thing cloned
so I should not notice any difference.
Seemed to be ok, but now I am getting some issues.

Microsoft had decided that my software is not genuine and I get multiple
messages daily advising me that I need to fix it. It won't update either and
I don't think that Windows Security Essentials is working.
I have tried to follow its directions on how to fix the problem but it will
not do it. Initially I was directed to download a file and then it was
supposed to download some larger file but it kept stalling out.
My computer fellow came by and had a quick look but said it was beyond him
and he would send one of his tech guys over. They have not shown up yet. I
have tried a number of different times to look online for solutions but so
far to no avail.

Anyone know how tI can make  Microsoft satisfied that the software is
genuine?

I know all that I said above is pretty vague. I also know I have the name of
the file that Microsoft wanted met to downloand written down but I cannot
lay my hands on it.

The other issue is relatively minor.
I use a title insurance  company that lets me fill in the forms and print
the policy online.
I cannot get it to print. It is something in this computer's settings as I
can log in at home and print policies there with no problem.

Randy

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[MBZ] OT - computer question

[Randy Bennell]

I bought a Canon camcorder.
I have down loaded the manual in pdf form.

I would like to print the manual.
It wants to give it to me in a booklet size of about 2.5 X 3.5 which is 
pretty small fo rmy old eyes.


Is there some way to make it print larger?

So far, I have failed to figure out how.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - computer question

[Dan Penoff]

In Acrobat Reader there is an option in the print screen to fit to page or 
something to that effect.

Hit Print then look around on the Print Preview page that opens.

Dan

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On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 
 I bought a Canon camcorder.
 I have down loaded the manual in pdf form.
 
 I would like to print the manual.
 It wants to give it to me in a booklet size of about 2.5 X 3.5 which is 
 pretty small fo rmy old eyes.
 
 Is there some way to make it print larger?
 
 So far, I have failed to figure out how.
 
 Randy
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - computer question

[Randy Bennell]

I am up to 4 X 5.5 so I am printing as I write this.
Good thing I can duplex as it is 246 pages.

Randy


On 17/12/2012 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

In Acrobat Reader there is an option in the print screen to fit to page or 
something to that effect.

Hit Print then look around on the Print Preview page that opens.

Dan

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On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


I bought a Canon camcorder.
I have down loaded the manual in pdf form.

I would like to print the manual.
It wants to give it to me in a booklet size of about 2.5 X 3.5 which is pretty 
small fo rmy old eyes.

Is there some way to make it print larger?

So far, I have failed to figure out how.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - computer question

[Rich Thomas]

by duplex do you mean 2-sided?  My printer dialog lets me do various 
things but it is rather obscure sometimes how you actually get it do 
what you want.


--R


On 12/17/12 12:56 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

I am up to 4 X 5.5 so I am printing as I write this.
Good thing I can duplex as it is 246 pages.

Randy


On 17/12/2012 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
In Acrobat Reader there is an option in the print screen to fit to 
page or something to that effect.


Hit Print then look around on the Print Preview page that opens.

Dan

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On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:


I bought a Canon camcorder.
I have down loaded the manual in pdf form.

I would like to print the manual.
It wants to give it to me in a booklet size of about 2.5 X 3.5 which 
is pretty small fo rmy old eyes.


Is there some way to make it print larger?

So far, I have failed to figure out how.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT - computer question

[Randy Bennell]

Yes, it will print both sides. Prints the one side and then pulls the 
paper back in and prints the other side.
Works pretty good. My previous machien was supposed to do it but would 
more often jamb than work. This one rarely has issues so they must have 
resolved whatever caused the issues.


Randy

On 17/12/2012 12:33 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:
by duplex do you mean 2-sided?  My printer dialog lets me do various 
things but it is rather obscure sometimes how you actually get it do 
what you want.


--R


On 12/17/12 12:56 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:

I am up to 4 X 5.5 so I am printing as I write this.
Good thing I can duplex as it is 246 pages.

Randy


On 17/12/2012 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
In Acrobat Reader there is an option in the print screen to fit to 
page or something to that effect.


Hit Print then look around on the Print Preview page that opens.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Dec 17, 2012, at 12:35 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca 
wrote:



I bought a Canon camcorder.
I have down loaded the manual in pdf form.

I would like to print the manual.
It wants to give it to me in a booklet size of about 2.5 X 3.5 
which is pretty small fo rmy old eyes.


Is there some way to make it print larger?

So far, I have failed to figure out how.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Curt Raymond]

On a machine that was nearly $3000 4 years ago thats a great price!

That will be a very good machine and will kick anything you can buy at a big 
box store in the teeth. Its got support for onboard RAID 5 should you want to 
build it into a server box.

Curt

Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 18:08:05 -0700
From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
Message-ID: bay171-w10993bdfca97407fff9ee97dd...@phx.gbl
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1


 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:22:52 -0700
 From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
 

Used, you get 'em from liquidators that buy a whole office worth of 
stuff at a time. An hour spent cleaning and another putting on your OS 
of choice and you're on your way.
 
 I got the 8600 in an 8200 box at an 8200 price...

Is this about right, price wise? Too high?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150851526942?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Curt Raymond]

Faster is debatable, the eBay one has 2x the RAM...

I'd probably go with this one though, I'd rather buy through a vendor if I 
could help it.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:25:38 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
Message-ID:
1342142738.14094.140661101389997.5ea72...@webmail.messagingengine.com

Content-Type: text/plain

Faster, cheaper...

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=XW8600-XEON333-2Rcat=SYS

Small HD and no OS though.



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  Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:22:52 -0700
  From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
  
 
  Used, you get 'em from liquidators that buy a whole office worth of 
 stuff at a time. An hour spent cleaning and another putting on your OS 
 of choice and you're on your way.
  
  I got the 8600 in an 8200 box at an 8200 price...
 
 Is this about right, price wise? Too high?
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/150851526942?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
 
 Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Allan Streib]

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 Faster is debatable, the eBay one has 2x the RAM...

Oops you're right, didn't catch that.

Allan

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[MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Rick Knoble]

A while back someone (Curt maybe) recommended HP business class work stations 
for good solid home computers. What specific machine would that be?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Alex Chamberlain]

On Jul 12, 2012 9:40 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 A while back someone (Curt maybe)
 recommended HP business class
 work stations for good solid home
 computers. What specific machine
 would that be?

It's a bit lower spec than the machines Curt was talking about, but I have
been very happy with an HP DX5150 as a general-purpose home server.  Small,
pretty quiet, easy to upgrade.  I have SATA and USB3 cards in mine so as to
run two big drives internally and connect to a fast external drive for
regular offsite backups.  It acts as a NAS for music sharing, does
automated backups of all other machines on the network with BackupPC, and
provides a TCP/IP print queue using a garage-sale laser printer on the
parallel port.  Not bad for $50 on fleaBay plus $200 or so to max out the
RAM and drives.

If the DX5150 can do all that as a server, it's more than enough for a
single-user machine as long as you're not a gamer.  Put 4gb of RAM in it,
get a video card with HDMI out, a 1080p monitor (I like the ViewSonic
VX2453 for a decent cheapie), install Ubuntu, and you are good to go for
undet $500 all told.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Dan Penoff]

We used the 6000 Pro SFF (small form factor) exclusively up until recently. We 
now use the Z210 platform in both desktop and tower configurations.

They are both available in a wide range of configurations, so have an idea of 
what you want to do with it before you go looking so you don't end up with more 
than you need.

Dan

On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 A while back someone (Curt maybe) recommended HP business class work stations 
 for good solid home computers. What specific machine would that be?
 
 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Dan Penoff]

We used both the 5100 and 5700 series machines in the past, and both were quite 
robust.

Dan

On Jul 12, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jul 12, 2012 9:40 AM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 A while back someone (Curt maybe)
 recommended HP business class
 work stations for good solid home
 computers. What specific machine
 would that be?
 
 It's a bit lower spec than the machines Curt was talking about, but I have
 been very happy with an HP DX5150 as a general-purpose home server.  Small,
 pretty quiet, easy to upgrade.  I have SATA and USB3 cards in mine so as to
 run two big drives internally and connect to a fast external drive for
 regular offsite backups.  It acts as a NAS for music sharing, does
 automated backups of all other machines on the network with BackupPC, and
 provides a TCP/IP print queue using a garage-sale laser printer on the
 parallel port.  Not bad for $50 on fleaBay plus $200 or so to max out the
 RAM and drives.
 
 If the DX5150 can do all that as a server, it's more than enough for a
 single-user machine as long as you're not a gamer.  Put 4gb of RAM in it,
 get a video card with HDMI out, a 1080p monitor (I like the ViewSonic
 VX2453 for a decent cheapie), install Ubuntu, and you are good to go for
 undet $500 all told.
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Curt Raymond]

I usually recommend a generation or two old of HP's workstation class computers 
(a step up from business class which is itself a step up from home type). The 
smart money one right now is the xw8200 which is 3 generations old. Dual xeon 
3.2Ghz processors, 4GB of RAM, WinXP pro. Great for most anything the home user 
needs.

The xw8400 is a worthy machine for a bit more money, it can be had with dual 
dualcore or dual quadcore processors for much less than its original price.

I'd consider the xw8200 the w123 of the HP world, the xw8400 is the w124.

I SCORED a few months ago and stumbled into an xw8600 that is a rockin fast 
machine. I got mine super-cheap by accident.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 11:40:11 -0500
From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
Message-ID: bay402-eas193572e2f66f41d88b7f6abdd...@phx.gbl
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

A while back someone (Curt maybe) recommended HP business class work stations 
for good solid home computers. What specific machine would that be?

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Curt Raymond]

The z210 is the lower end of the HP workstation line and quite a powerful 
machine. The higher end of the line is the z810 which is a screamer, though of 
course you'll pay through the nose.

-Curt

Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 14:24:28 -0400
From: Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
Message-ID: e9eea1c5-7ba5-4d5b-bef2-de3df55e6...@yahoo.com
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii

We used the 6000 Pro SFF (small form factor) exclusively up until recently. We 
now use the Z210 platform in both desktop and tower configurations.

They are both available in a wide range of configurations, so have an idea of 
what you want to do with it before you go looking so you don't end up with more 
than you need.

Dan

On Jul 12, 2012, at 12:40 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 A while back someone (Curt maybe) recommended HP business class work stations 
 for good solid home computers. What specific machine would that be?
 
 Rick
 Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Allan Streib]

You buy them used, NOS, or what?

Allan

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 I usually recommend a generation or two old of HP's workstation class
 computers (a step up from business class which is itself a step up
 from home type). The smart money one right now is the xw8200 which is
 3 generations old. Dual xeon 3.2Ghz processors, 4GB of RAM, WinXP
 pro. Great for most anything the home user needs.


 The xw8400 is a worthy machine for a bit more money, it can be had with dual 
 dualcore or dual quadcore processors for much less than its original price.

 I'd consider the xw8200 the w123 of the HP world, the xw8400 is the w124.

 I SCORED a few months ago and stumbled into an xw8600 that is a rockin fast 
 machine. I got mine super-cheap by accident.

 -Curt

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1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Curt Raymond]

Used, you get 'em from liquidators that buy a whole office worth of stuff at a 
time. An hour spent cleaning and another putting on your OS of choice and 
you're on your way.

I got the 8600 in an 8200 box at an 8200 price...

-Curt

Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:38:19 -0400
From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
Message-ID: m1ipds4q44@cs.indiana.edu
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

You buy them used, NOS, or what?

Allan

Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

 I usually recommend a generation or two old of HP's workstation class
 computers (a step up from business class which is itself a step up
 from home type). The smart money one right now is the xw8200 which is
 3 generations old. Dual xeon 3.2Ghz processors, 4GB of RAM, WinXP
 pro. Great for most anything the home user needs.


 The xw8400 is a worthy machine for a bit more money, it can be had with dual 
 dualcore or dual quadcore processors for much less than its original price.

 I'd consider the xw8200 the w123 of the HP world, the xw8400 is the w124.

 I SCORED a few months ago and stumbled into an xw8600 that is a rockin fast 
 machine. I got mine super-cheap by accident.

 -Curt

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1983 300D
1979 300SD

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Rick Knoble]

 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:22:52 -0700
 From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
 

 Used, you get 'em from liquidators that buy a whole office worth of 
stuff at a time. An hour spent cleaning and another putting on your OS 
of choice and you're on your way.
 
 I got the 8600 in an 8200 box at an 8200 price...

Is this about right, price wise? Too high?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150851526942?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649

Rick

 



  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Allan Streib]

Faster, cheaper...

http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=XW8600-XEON333-2Rcat=SYS

Small HD and no OS though.



On Thu, Jul 12, 2012, at 06:08 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
 
  Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:22:52 -0700
  From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
  To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
  
 
  Used, you get 'em from liquidators that buy a whole office worth of 
 stuff at a time. An hour spent cleaning and another putting on your OS 
 of choice and you're on your way.
  
  I got the 8600 in an 8200 box at an 8200 price...
 
 Is this about right, price wise? Too high?
 
 http://www.ebay.com/itm/150851526942?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649
 
 Rick
 
  
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question

[Rick Knoble]

 From: str...@cs.indiana.edu
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:25:38 -0400
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Computer Question
 
 Faster, cheaper...
 
 http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=XW8600-XEON333-2Rcat=SYS
 
 Small HD and no OS though.

Much better. 

Thanks,

Rick
  
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