Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Thanks, I appreciate all the help I can get. Will be talking with him today and passing on the constructive advice. Ralph On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:22 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! If you were doing your own wrenching, I apologize. If you were using a 'trained' mechanic, then HE is the idiot! It was explained to me, back when my tranny needed servicing, that IF you take it out you ALWAYS replace those then-easy seals, because the parts and incremental labor are cheap. And you _don't_ want to have to pull it again the next year. Or month. After all, if one is already leaking the others may not be far behind. The rear seal can be done in-car, so there's no need to do that one unless it _is_ leaking. He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. If I recall correctly, and yours is anything like mine, it's four bolts right on the front. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
126 Manual: http://www.startekinfo.com/StarTek/outside/12253/program/matrix.htm -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 6:49 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Rich Thomas Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking I have a 126 manual, and I think they are posted somewhere. I guess I could put it up on Dropbox or something and y'all could download it. This stuff is not rocket surgery, the Germans actually thought about repairs on these cars. --R On 7/9/15 6:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Yep. http://youtu.be/PFHR9PR1GKo https://mercedessource.com/store/617-turbo-diesel-transmission-front-reseal-kit-late Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
How did I guess? I suspect he has a video on how to hook up your MB seatbelt. That said i find his how-to videos helpful. On Jul 9, 2015 8:57 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Yep. http://youtu.be/PFHR9PR1GKo https://mercedessource.com/store/617-turbo-diesel-transmission-front-reseal-kit-late Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! If you were doing your own wrenching, I apologize. If you were using a 'trained' mechanic, then HE is the idiot! It was explained to me, back when my tranny needed servicing, that IF you take it out you ALWAYS replace those then-easy seals, because the parts and incremental labor are cheap. And you _don't_ want to have to pull it again the next year. Or month. After all, if one is already leaking the others may not be far behind. The rear seal can be done in-car, so there's no need to do that one unless it _is_ leaking. He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. If I recall correctly, and yours is anything like mine, it's four bolts right on the front. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Yeah, thats what I read out of it. It seems crazy to me that knowing you had a leak they pulled the transmission and didn't replace all the exterior seals on the trans. I'd suggest to them that they get to do this seal for free... -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 4:14 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking I suggest you misunderstood. I believe he was suggesting your mechanic was an idiot for not replacing easy to get at items while the transmission was out. RB On 09/07/2015 2:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
I suggest you misunderstood. I believe he was suggesting your mechanic was an idiot for not replacing easy to get at items while the transmission was out. RB On 09/07/2015 2:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him. RB On 09/07/2015 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes wrote: He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know how much of a job it would be to replace. He was going to do some research and see what was involved. I said I would check with the discussion group and see if I could get any help for him. He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. Thanks. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher standard) but just cars. -Curt From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that. I don't have mercedes mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing my work. I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best. I work with what I have available here. When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada. My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help. I know the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in this job. Thanks for any help. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
I have a 126 manual, and I think they are posted somewhere. I guess I could put it up on Dropbox or something and y'all could download it. This stuff is not rocket surgery, the Germans actually thought about repairs on these cars. --R On 7/9/15 6:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: I think you need to buy a manual and share it with him. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Ralph writes: He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. I could be wrong, but I think the front seal can be done WITHOUT removing the front pump. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that. I don't have mercedes mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing my work. I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best. I work with what I have available here. When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada. My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help. I know the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in this job. Thanks for any help. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher standard) but just cars. -Curt From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that. I don't have mercedes mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing my work. I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best. I work with what I have available here. When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada. My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help. I know the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in this job. Thanks for any help. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know how much of a job it would be to replace. He was going to do some research and see what was involved. I said I would check with the discussion group and see if I could get any help for him. He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. Thanks. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher standard) but just cars. -Curt From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that. I don't have mercedes mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing my work. I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best. I work with what I have available here. When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada. My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help. I know the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in this job. Thanks for any help. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Pull trans then unbolt it from the front of tranny Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know how much of a job it would be to replace. He was going to do some research and see what was involved. I said I would check with the discussion group and see if I could get any help for him. He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. Thanks. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher standard) but just cars. -Curt From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that. I don't have mercedes mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing my work. I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best. I work with what I have available here. When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada. My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help. I know the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in this job. Thanks for any help. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking
Kent Bergsma must have a video online about that. On Jul 9, 2015 6:29 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Pull trans then unbolt it from the front of tranny Sent from my iPhone On Jul 9, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: He called me and said that the front pump was leaking but he did not know how much of a job it would be to replace. He was going to do some research and see what was involved. I said I would check with the discussion group and see if I could get any help for him. He didn't seem to know how the pump could be removed. Thanks. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 6:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Its a transmission, it shouldn't be any harder than working on any other transmission. When I first got into MB's back in 2002 I was convinced they were some kind of magic. Untrue, they're just cars and work like other cars. Higher quality parts produced (originally anyway) to a higher standard) but just cars. -Curt From: Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Ralph Robertson rare...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 5:57 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300 SDL Front Transmssion Pump leaking I did misunderstand the comment, sorry about that. I don't have mercedes mechanics in my area, and the M.B. dealer has told me that their staff are younger then my car, so that about did it for me with the M.B. dealer doing my work. I have found a Volvo mechanic that does a good job for me but he isn't an M.B. expert, by no means, but he does his best. I work with what I have available here. When I am in Florida for the winter months, I have lots of M.B. talent available, but not here in N.B. Canada. My mechanic here is researching what is involved with replacing the seal for this front pump in the transmission, so any advice would help. I know the M.B. transmissions are complicated and I am trying to assist him in this job. Thanks for any help. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 4:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ralph, I think he was referring to the mechanic. If you're dropping the transmission, which one would have to do in order to check the TC, you would also expect to closely inspect the front (pump) cover as its exposed and easy to reach at that time. If there's the slightest hint of seepage/leakage, one would expect to replace the pump gaskets and seals. It's a quick, easy and inexpensive jib to do under those circumstances. I would be looking for another mechanic. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jul 9, 2015, at 3:57 PM, Ralph Robertson via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wow, I sure didn't expect that; being called an idiot! Sorry I don't have the experience that you have, but thanks anyway for the nice advice. Ralph On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 10:38 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have transmission fluid leaking from my '87 300 SDL, had a garage check this out and they identified it was the Torque Converter leaking. Replaced the seal in the converter, now they state the front trans. pump is leaking. What are they up against Thanks, Ralph, Idiocy? It's more-or-less SOP, when dropping the tranny to replace a seal, to do all the ones that are now easy to reach. Front seal, pump seal, etc. Maybe even consider engine's rear main seal at that time. They're all staring right at you at that point. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
