On Jun 8, 2006, at 4:08 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
What's the best way to track down a leak like this?
Run it under water with your thumb on the breather hole and look for
bubbles?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
On Jun 8, 2006, at 5:13 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:
Start by cleaning the engine. Then look for new oil deposits over the
next few days.
Marshall
I've suggested the same months ago.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Ok, so I've sealed the baffle on the valve cover, swapped the air cleaner
housing from the '82 300D into the CD, and changed the oil cooler lines.
It's still burning oil and smoking but not leaking more than 2-3 small drops
on my parking spot. The turbo intake is dry and free of oil now.
its burning it somewhere, if it was the turbo blowing oil out your whole
back end would be covered with oil.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Ok, so I've sealed the baffle on the valve cover, swapped the air cleaner
housing from the '82 300D into the CD, and changed the oil cooler lines.
It's still
Woah, almost said something that would only be appropriate on the Banned
list...
On 6/8/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
your whole back end would be covered with oil.
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its burning it somewhere, if it was the turbo blowing oil out your whole
back end would be covered with oil.
Luther Gulseth wrote
I also put my hand over the breather hole and
held it there for more than 20 seconds with out it dying.
Seems to me that a 617 MUST die eventually when doing this,
or there is some other vapor leak from the crankcase. (Maybe
the oil separator drain pipe?)
-- Jim
So the turbo wouldn't blow oil into the intake?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
its burning it somewhere, if it was the turbo blowing oil out your whole
back end would be covered with oil.
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (235kmi WVO/diesel mix)
'82 300CD (160kmi)
'82
didnt you say there was no oil in the intake?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
So the turbo wouldn't blow oil into the intake?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
its burning it somewhere, if it was the turbo blowing oil out your whole
back end would be covered with oil.
--
Kaleb C.
Compression readings were 1-300, 2-300, 3-380, 4-345, 5-360 before I swapped
the carboned up injectors out. I tried to check last weekend, but my
compression tester lost an o-ring and won't seal and I'm waiting on the
part. I'm fairly certain that the air intake is free and open.
Don't bad
What should happen when I plug the breather?
Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
I also put my hand over the breather hole and
held it there for more than 20 seconds with out it dying.
Seems to me that a 617 MUST die eventually when doing this,
or there is some other vapor leak from the
intake from the air cleaner to the turbo, yes. Actual intake from the turbo
to the head, I haven't opened that up. Should I check there?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
didnt you say there was no oil in the intake?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
So the turbo wouldn't blow oil
: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:23 PM
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Compression readings were 1-300, 2-300, 3-380, 4-345, 5-360 before I swapped
the carboned up injectors out. I tried to check last weekend, but my
compression tester lost an o-ring
probably, if you suspect it I would pull the turbo and see.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
intake from the air cleaner to the turbo, yes. Actual intake from the turbo
to the head, I haven't opened that up. Should I check there?
Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
didnt you say there was
.. hahahaha
Trampas
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intake from the air cleaner to the turbo, yes
that Kaleb will sell you a
bad one for $80, I bet the good ones might be cheaper.. hahahaha
Trampas
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Luther Gulseth wrote:
Compression readings were 1-300, 2-300, 3-380, 4-345, 5-360 before I swapped
the carboned up injectors out. I tried to check last weekend, but my
compression tester lost an o-ring and won't seal and I'm waiting on the
part. I'm fairly certain that the air intake is
Luther Gulseth wrote:
What should happen when I plug the breather?
The engine should stop in 5-15 seconds- UNLESS there's a leak and
pressure in the sump and valve cover area can escape. That pressurizes
the shutoff diaphragm on the other side from where vacuum is applied to
shut it off.
What should happen when I plug the breather?
The engine should labor and die as crankcase pressure
builds up. Due to the particular construction of the 617,
the shutoff diaphragm gets pushed on just as if you put a
vacuum on its other side. (All pressure is relative.)
It is used as a
Fuel economy is better than 25 and most of the time 27-29 running on pure
diesel. I haven't timed 0-60, but it will easily out run my SD or my parents
300D.
Luther
Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Compression readings were 1-300, 2-300, 3-380, 4-345,
What's the best way to track down a leak like this?
Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
What should happen when I plug the breather?
The engine should stop in 5-15 seconds- UNLESS there's a leak and
pressure in the sump and valve cover area can escape. That
Swap turbo with spare car, if problem goes away then it is turbo.
Trampas
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: Thursday, June 08, 2006 4:09 PM
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What's the best way to track down a leak like this?
Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
What should happen when I plug the breather
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Fuel economy is better than 25 and most of the time 27-29 running on pure
diesel. I haven't timed 0-60, but it will easily out run my SD or my parents
300D.
Unlikely to be the timer then. This may actually be one of those times
when it really IS the turbo oil seals
Luther Gulseth wrote:
What's the best way to track down a leak like this?
Since I never use blocking the vent to test the engine, I never discover
such leaks - and if I don't know about them, the engine runs fine and is
not consuming oil or fuel at an alarming rate, I'm sure not going to
On Apr 8, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
Any suggestions on the turbo oil?
It is most likely coming from the breather. What's the air filter
looking like?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
the filter element is dry, but there is some liquid oil down in the very
bottom of the filter basin. Should I swap filter/breather parts from the
Blue Bomber and try that?
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:37:48 -0500, John Berryman
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On Apr 8, 2006, at 4:21 PM, Luther
On Apr 8, 2006, at 11:50 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
the filter element is dry, but there is some liquid oil down in the
very
bottom of the filter basin. Should I swap filter/breather parts
from the
Blue Bomber and try that?
Did you epoxy the valve cover yet? And more importantly the oil
well how much oil is it using now?
Luther Gulseth wrote:
the filter element is dry, but there is some liquid oil down in the very
bottom of the filter basin. Should I swap filter/breather parts from the
Blue Bomber and try that?
On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 19:37:48 -0500, John Berryman
[EMAIL
Yes, oil can leak from the turbo into the intake, but usually will also
leak into the exhaust -- if so, there will be quite a bit of coke in
there (hard glassy carbon) that is fairly oily, not dry and fluffy.
The other source of oil in the front of the turbo is blowby and/or a
failed oil
Valve cover is epoxied, with J.B. (remember that thread?) and the oil
level is almost always between the Min mark and the middle.
What does blow by amount on an engine tell?
Oil spots? We have assigned parking at work, so I get the same spot
everyday. It finally started leaving spots on the
On Apr 9, 2006, at 6:24 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
Or should I use a small amount of lock
tite on the base fittings? Or maybe antiseize on the line
fittings? TIA
all,
Luther
Might as well do bothWhile it easy.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
sent this message last night with attachmentsI'll delete them and
maybe Kaleb will allow them later.
This afternoon while changing the oil cooler lines, I disconnected the
alda line to create more room for my wrenchand there was fresh oil in
itbad sign?
Here's the latest. I
Here's the latest. I pulled the intake off the front of the turbo and the =
exhaust off the back. The exhaust was black with soot, but dry. The =
intake had fresh oil as you can see in the pictures I'll attach. I wiped =
a spot with my finger (outlined in yellow) and the rest of the oil
The odometer started working when I fueled up Tuesday and reset the trip
odometer. HrmI made another screwup though. Left the oil cap off
(now missing, and replaced with the old one) and covered the engine
compartment with oil. Gave it a bath tonight. Checked the oil when I
I did that once. when I was 16, GEEZ
Luther Gulseth wrote:
The odometer started working when I fueled up Tuesday and reset the trip
odometer. HrmI made another screwup though. Left the oil cap off
(now missing, and replaced with the old one) and covered the engine
compartment
its time to dump that thing. Sounds like you drive it more than the SD
though.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
This will be tough.my odometer is now working 50% of the timegr
love an old car. Always something new to keep you on your toes.
Luther
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:36 , Kaleb C.
It's hella fun to drive compared to the SD. The SD is a great road
carwould love to trade up to an SDL though
P.Sthe Odo started working last night after I reset the trip odo after
fueling.
Luther
~its time to dump that thing. Sounds like you drive it more than the SD
On Mar 26, 2006, at 2:45 PM, Marshall Booth wrote:
Just how much oil are you using? How many qt in how many miles?
Marshall
Its an absurd amount,IIRC 1 qt/250-300mi.
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
Our dealer had in an infamous w140 350SDL, they told me the turbo was
cracked and when
hot and only when really hot it would leak oil into the intake and
produce *huge* clouds of
blue smoke.
For the right price I'd buy one of those. I have a spare 603
turbo from the wagon. One of the few
Just how much oil are you using? How many qt in how many miles?
Its an absurd amount,IIRC 1 qt/250-300mi.
Our 'collectible convertible', the 250C hardtop convertible, burned
a truly heinous amount of oil on its one and only road trip, all four
quarts I brought along in about 200 miles.
Yea - I konw about the time and elbow grease (though I did cheat and
use a wire brush in an old drill)!
On 3/27/06, John Ervine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK Don wrote:
I haven't updated the page yet (no new photos yet), but your engine
does look better than mine!
This will be tough.my odometer is now working 50% of the timegr
love an old car. Always something new to keep you on your toes.
Luther
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:36 , Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
report back
Luther Gulseth wrote:
BUT, after sealing the valve cover
yep
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Good call. Rusty
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:40:38 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
couple of cans of diesel purge
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Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D,
84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD,
WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston
walls.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
1qt/250-300mi.
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:45:34 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
couple of cans of diesel purge
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I'll check
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston
walls.
Christ, even our 240D didn't burn that much oil with 1 double-holed piston, 1
deeply gouged cylinder liner, 1 piston with cracked rings, and a cracked head!
Speaking of, the new motor just
what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment
while you had it out? Looks good.
John Ervine wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston
walls.
Christ, even our 240D didn't burn that much oil with 1
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment
while you had it out? Looks good.
The engine is a rebuild from Metric Motors out in California. The injection
pump and injectors are from Tom Horvath at Yankee Diesel in Connecticut - very
BUT, after sealing the valve cover baffle Thurs/Fri, I don't see anymore
white smoke at idle, and it's hardly there at 3000+RPM. THAT may have
been most of my useage. I can put 250 on this week and see if the
comsumption is still high.
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:18:41 -0600, Kaleb C.
WOW, thats ALOT of oil usage, sounds like you might have scored piston
walls.
Not to be discounted on these cars is a malfunction of the oil
separator system in the air cleaner. (Including the baffle of
recent discussion, the hoses, etc.) I own the Chicken Wagon
because the PO thought the
: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:24:47 -0500
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
WOW, thats
Breather hose is new and updated flat style.
And how's the drain hose for the separator look?
-- Jim
Luther Gulseth wrote:
1qt/250-300mi.
There is NO way that oil consumption in excess of a qt in 1000 miles
will be cured by what you are doing!! When oil consumption gets to a qt
in 600 miles Mercedes rates the engine as unreliable and insists it be
taken out of service since it can fail
fuck, I thought you were rebuilding it yourself? I bet fucking engine
cost a pretty penny.
John Ervine wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine compartment
while you had it out? Looks good.
The engine is a rebuild from Metric Motors out
report back
Luther Gulseth wrote:
BUT, after sealing the valve cover baffle Thurs/Fri, I don't see anymore
white smoke at idle, and it's hardly there at 3000+RPM. THAT may have
been most of my useage. I can put 250 on this week and see if the
comsumption is still high.
On Sun, 26 Mar
Note to all, Kaleb forgot which world he was in. Please disregard this
message.
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:33:49 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
*edited*
I thought you were rebuilding it yourself? I bet that engine
cost a pretty penny.
John Ervine wrote:
Kaleb C.
Please disregard last post, thought I was on a different list.
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
, I thought you were rebuilding it yourself? I bet xxx engine
cost a pretty penny.
John Ervine wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
what did you do, clean the engine, transmisson, and engine
with that much oil usage, you either have a bad bad leak, broken rings,
cracked pistons, scored cylinder walls
Luther Gulseth wrote:
With a nearly dry undercarriage, where else could it be going? Not rings,
valve guides, or seals. Could have been valve cover baffle, and might be
turbo
The remanufactured by MB 617 engine I bought for my first '76 300D
didn't look that good out of the crate!
My 117 engine is now sitting in the SLC, bolted up, drive shaft in
place, exhaust buttoned up, etc. THe car is now off the stands -
waiting for everything under the hood to be attached ---
I
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
HOLY SMOKES, I thought you were rebuilding it yourself? I bet that DADGUM engine
cost a pretty penny.
I was planning to rebuild it until we pulled the head and found out that it was
cracked. And after pricing out parts for the rebuild, plus machine shop work,
plus
OK Don wrote:
I haven't updated the page yet (no new photos yet), but your engine
does look better than mine!
http://pages.sbcglobal.net/danorris/450slc.htm
I was really impressed with the quality of work from the guys at Metric. And
Tom @ Yankee Diesel really outdid himself on that IP,
Would a cylinder be able to produce 300psi compression if it had broken
rings/cracked pistons/scored cylinder walls??? Remember my compression figures
were 300, 300, 380, 335, 360 and the injectors that were coated with carbon the
most had the lowest compression. #3 injector was the cleanest,
that is indeed strange.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Would a cylinder be able to produce 300psi compression if it had broken
rings/cracked pistons/scored cylinder walls??? Remember my compression figures
were 300, 300, 380, 335, 360 and the injectors that were coated with carbon the
most had the
If I had a camera with me, I'd take pictures of the air cleaner inside. It's
barely touched by oil film. When I had it apart several weeks ago, I cleaned
it up, half of it was dry and crusty, not fresh oil.
Luther
~The thing is, when the engine has SERIOUS problems like it sounds like
Remember, the engine did cough and blow a cloud of black smoke for an instant
yesterday afternoon, so the Italian tune up driving is starting to have an
effect.
~that is indeed strange.
~
~Luther Gulseth wrote:
~
~ Would a cylinder be able to produce 300psi compression if it had broken
Remember, the engine did cough and blow a cloud of black smoke for an
instant yesterday afternoon, so the Italian tune up driving is
starting to have an effect.
Aren't powdered rings black? :-)
-- Jim
The thing is, when the engine has SERIOUS problems like it sounds like
Luther's has, there will be so much blowby that it will overtake the
oil
separator system.
True, but wouldn't such blowby manifest itself with the oil filler
cap off? A plume like Vesuvius?
If I had a camera with me, I'd
and tried to blow the thing up, but at last it may drive to the
bone yard.
Trampas
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Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
with that much oil usage, you either have a bad bad leak, broken rings,
cracked pistons, scored cylinder walls
Other than OM603.97 engines with bent rods and elliptical cylinder
bores, the only time I've seen qt/200-250 miles was when I had a blown
head gasket
I may have missed it but have you checked for valve guides/seals. IIRC it
takes a leak down test rather than a compression test to determine if they
are bad. The ones in my 91 300CE are bad at 200k and it is buring a quart
every 1,000 miles or so. It doesn't have any oil smoke at all, only some
Alan Duff wrote:
I may have missed it but have you checked for valve guides/seals. IIRC it
takes a leak down test rather than a compression test to determine if they
are bad. The ones in my 91 300CE are bad at 200k and it is buring a quart
every 1,000 miles or so. It doesn't have any oil smoke
Our dealer had in an infamous w140 350SDL, they told me the turbo was
cracked and when
hot and only when really hot it would leak oil into the intake and
produce *huge* clouds of
blue smoke.
On 27-Mar-06, at 9:04 AM, Marshall Booth wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
with that much oil
On Mar 25, 2006, at 7:00 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Now, to find some mountains in Central Va.
;-)
Blue Ridge Mountain Parkway?
Johnny B.
I Mac Therefore I am
couple of cans of diesel purge
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Last evening I applied JB Weld to the valve cover baffle gap and swapped
out the injectors with my 74kmi set from the Blue Bomber ('82 300D). 2 of
the 5 were heavily carboned up, and the other 3 weren't all that great.
All 5 of the
: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Last evening I applied JB Weld to the valve cover baffle gap and swapped
out the injectors with my 74kmi set from the Blue Bomber ('82 300D). 2
of
the 5 were heavily carboned up, and the other 3 weren't all that great.
All 5
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
couple of cans of diesel purge
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I'll check valves and oil leak next weekend. What about checking the
rear
side of the turbo for oil? How hard is that? What's the proceedure for
the baffle epoxy?
Just how much oil are you using? How many
The CD scared me today coming home from the tournament. I had a full
throttle from about 5mph till I merged into 65mph traffic, then a cruise
of about 5 miles at or above 65mph in 3rd gear. Then suddenly the engine
stuttered/burped. For a second I thought I hit something in the road, or
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the putty type would probably work too
archer wrote:
I tried to buy Locktite-NAPA from NAPA but they didn't have it on hand
and
didn't have
Good call. Rusty
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:40:38 -0600, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
couple of cans of diesel purge
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Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (159,xxx kmi)
'82 300D (74,000 kmi) needs MAJOR work
1qt/250-300mi.
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:45:34 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
couple of cans of diesel purge
Luther Gulseth wrote:
I'll check valves and oil leak next weekend. What about checking the
rear
side of the turbo for oil? How hard is
Last evening I applied JB Weld to the valve cover baffle gap and swapped
out the injectors with my 74kmi set from the Blue Bomber ('82 300D). 2 of
the 5 were heavily carboned up, and the other 3 weren't all that great.
All 5 of the heat shields were carboned up also. That done, today I
Last evening I applied JB Weld to the valve cover baffle gap and
swapped
out the injectors with my 74kmi set from the Blue Bomber ('82 300D).
Bad science, in that you won't know _which_ fix made a difference, if
any. But let's hope that there _is_ a difference!
-- Jim
Bad science, yes. Effecient repairs of 2 known problems, yes. I dislike
having something apart and NOT fixing obvious problems while I'm in
there. I SHOULD have repaired that when I set the valves a couple
thousand miles ago.
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:51:09 -0600, Jim Cathey [EMAIL
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Last evening I applied JB Weld to the valve cover baffle gap and swapped
out the injectors with my 74kmi set from the Blue Bomber ('82 300D). 2 of
the 5 were heavily carboned up, and the other 3 weren't all that great.
All 5 of the heat shields were carboned up also.
Ugh, did I damage anything?
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:47:51 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Don't use RTV. Don't use J-B Weld (it takes too long to dry and will
ooze
through the gap. The official stuff was Lock-Tite/NAPA 5-minute epoxy.
It
does an excellent job and is oil
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Ugh, did I damage anything?
Hard to tell, my crystal ball is foggy!
Marshall
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Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions)
der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
'87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5
I'm sure you'll let us know!
On 3/24/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugh, did I damage anything?
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K, Gramps, or yellow car
'78 450SLC 67K, brown car
'97 Ply Grand Voyager 78K Van
haven't
been able to find out if it is oil-proof.
Gerry Archer
83' 240D and 300D
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Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 9:47 PM
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Luther
Ok, what are the posibilities?
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:31:01 -0600, Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Ugh, did I damage anything?
Hard to tell, my crystal ball is foggy!
Marshall
--
Luther KB5QHU
Alma, Ark
'83 300SD (231,xxx kmi)
'82 300CD (159,xxx kmi)
Comfort is an amazing thing.
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:34:29 -0600, OK Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure you'll let us know!
On 3/24/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugh, did I damage anything?
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite,
It will still leak? The JB Weld will fall off due to the oil and land
in the sump (or somewhere else)?
On 3/24/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok, what are the posibilities?
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OK Don, KD5NRO
Norman, OK
'90 300D 243K, Rattled
'87 300SDL 290K, Limo Lite, or blue car
'81 240D 173K,
On Mar 24, 2006, at 8:35 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
Hopefully that's causing
the oil usage also. Any thoughs?
The things you're doing can't hurt but with the oil consumption
figures you mention there should be something real obvious. Have you
cleaned the engine and checked for fresh
Haven't re-checked compression yet. I'm going to drive the car in 3rd
this week (2nd under 35mph) keeping the rpms above 3500-4000 (got some
interstate driving to do) and rid it of the carbon. Maybe Thursday
evening I can re-check the compression. I'll also try to check the rear
of the
On Mar 24, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
Don't use RTV. Don't use J-B Weld (it takes too long to dry and will
ooze
through the gap. The official stuff was Lock-Tite/NAPA 5-minute
epoxy.
It
does an excellent job and is oil resistant. We used to do this at
the
M-B
dealer in the
It set overnight on the engine. I doubt that any went the wrong direction
into the baffle. I don't feel so bad now. I'll use J-B Quick next time
though.
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:41:55 -0600, John Berryman
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On Mar 24, 2006, at 10:23 PM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
On Mar 25, 2006, at 8:55 AM, Luther Gulseth wrote:
Haven't re-checked compression yet. I'm going to drive the car in 3rd
this week (2nd under 35mph) keeping the rpms above 3500-4000 (got some
interstate driving to do) and rid it of the carbon. Maybe Thursday
evening I can re-check the
: [MBZ] '82 300CD excessive oil usage-update
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Last evening I applied JB Weld to the valve cover baffle gap and swapped
out the injectors with my 74kmi set from the Blue Bomber ('82 300D). 2 =
of
the 5 were heavily carboned up, and the other 3 weren't all that great
Ran it hard on the interstate to and from the tourney. 7 or 8 full
throttle starts, 5 up hill. Never let it get out of 3rd gear, keeping the
rpms around 4000-4500 and higher. Last fullthrottle start was up the
steepest hill within 10 miles of me, reached 80mph/5000rmp1 before the
top.
Luther Gulseth wrote:
Ran it hard on the interstate to and from the tourney. 7 or 8 full
throttle starts, 5 up hill. Never let it get out of 3rd gear, keeping the
rpms around 4000-4500 and higher. Last fullthrottle start was up the
steepest hill within 10 miles of me, reached
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