Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-21 Thread MG
, 20 Jun 2010 17:59:39 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Message-ID: Check with a diesel injection service -- I'm not familiar with this particular pump, but a failed pressure valve or a worn rotor will give

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-20 Thread MG
Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Mid to late 70's Chevy V8s were terrible about roasting starters. As noted, this won't be the case if you have vapor lock in the injection lines. I'd lean toward a leak on the suction side of the fuel system. I'm

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-20 Thread Peter Frederick
had to be rebuilt for this reason. Peter -Original Message- From: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com Sent: Jun 20, 2010 5:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update The injection pump is a distributor type pump, the same one

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-19 Thread MG
: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:12:51 -0500 From: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update You should also check the current draw on the starter when hot. When the windings go bad, they get high resistance, and that excess resistance goes way up

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Mid to late 70's Chevy V8s were terrible about roasting starters. As noted, this won't be the case if you have vapor lock in the injection lines. I'd lean toward a leak on the suction side of the fuel system. I'm not familiar with that particular engine, does it have a distributor type

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-17 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
- problem is worse in warm months. Have I got it right? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-17 Thread Mike Esh
-Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:20 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Steel pipes and car are very good condition with minimal rust

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-17 Thread Dillon, Meade M CIV SPAWARSYSCEN-ATLANTIC, 53310
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mike Esh Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:02 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update Yes that is correct only the problem started about a year ago. Who is still looking for rusty lines and leaks

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Mike Esh
I checked/replaced all connections and hoses and cannot determine where anything is leaking. Everything is dry and clean. I can actually see the fuel level in the clear filter level drop. I appears to be draining toward the spin on filter. Is there check valve somewhere that is

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Dieselhead
Assuming that all the steel pipes are not rusted. .. Some fuel filters have o-rings on the bolt that holds the filter in place, older ones have an aluminum seal under the head of the bolt. I think yours has orings. Maybe someone else can say for sure. Air can leak in at these orings. Any

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Mike Esh
Steel pipes and car are very good condition with minimal rust. I checked all connections on filter assembly and made sure all fittings had both washers. O-rings are new on the bolt for the filter. There are two of them, the lower one is smaller than the upper one. I hear nothing when

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread OK Don
One 115 chassis 300D I bought a long time ago was sold with a dis-assembled engine because it was hard to start. I transferred the factory re-man engine I had in a rusting out car to it, and surprise - it was suddenly hard to start! I found a small place where the steel fuel line had been rubbing

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Dieselhead
Well stated. I had the same experience with a small rust spot under a clamp. Not wet. Not much rust. but the car started fine after I cut it out. Michaels's observation that the fuel seems to flow to the filter as the air leaks in indicates the return line. One 115 chassis 300D I bought

Re: [MBZ] Hard start problem returns- Update

2010-06-16 Thread Peter Frederick
You should also check the current draw on the starter when hot. When the windings go bad, they get high resistance, and that excess resistance goes way up with temperature, so when you crank with a bad starter that is already hot, it won't turn the engine fast enough to start. 100 rpm