Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
LOL, assuming he wasn't serious... On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 10:25 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Some years ago, while buying a "lifetime guarantee" part, I ask the parts > man, who happened to also own the company, "What exact does it mean, > Lifetime Guarantee". > > His reply has stayed with me since.. Without smiling and with a straight > face, he said "It means that if you ever bring the SOB back, I'll kill you" > ... > > Pretty much sums up much of my experience since with stores that advertise > Lifetime Guarantees. > > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I would have no issues with sending it back. They are the ones who > promote > > a lifetime (thinking that is MY lifetime) guarantee as part of their > > marketing. Plus from what I have heard they have absolutely no issue with > > swapping stuff out. > > > > Same with car parts. I buy a lifetime guarantee alternator for my truck, > I > > keep the truck forever, I need new alternators, I get one. > > > > --R (sent from my miniPad) > > > > On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > *Nod* > > Its like the people that take their old worn out boots back to LL Bean > > because "Its got a lifetime guarantee". I've got a backpack from LL Bean > > I'll replace because it lasted 25 years. The fabric is losing its > > waterproof backing now but I figure 25 years of hard use (4 of those > years > > I was in high school, thats hard use) were a good life. Fortunately they > > still make the same pack... > > -Curt > > From: WILTON via Mercedes > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Cc: WILTON > > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:31 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack > > > > And what happened to integrity - doing what is right when nobody else is > > watching? > > > > Wilton > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > > To: "Mercedes List" > > Cc: "Dan Penoff" > > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:38 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack > > > > > > > Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then > > > start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? > > > > > > I can see that ending well. I think not. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > > >> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel < > astrasfo...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >> Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s > worth > > >> a try. > > >> > > >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > >>> wrote: > > >>> Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or > things > > >>> like floor jacks. > > >>> > > >>> Dan > > >>> > > >>> Sent from my iPad > > >>> > > >>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > > >>>> Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP > > >>>> in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. > > >>> > > >>> ___ > > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >>> > > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >>> > > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Some years ago, while buying a "lifetime guarantee" part, I ask the parts man, who happened to also own the company, "What exact does it mean, Lifetime Guarantee". His reply has stayed with me since.. Without smiling and with a straight face, he said "It means that if you ever bring the SOB back, I'll kill you" ... Pretty much sums up much of my experience since with stores that advertise Lifetime Guarantees. On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I would have no issues with sending it back. They are the ones who promote > a lifetime (thinking that is MY lifetime) guarantee as part of their > marketing. Plus from what I have heard they have absolutely no issue with > swapping stuff out. > > Same with car parts. I buy a lifetime guarantee alternator for my truck, I > keep the truck forever, I need new alternators, I get one. > > --R (sent from my miniPad) > > On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > *Nod* > Its like the people that take their old worn out boots back to LL Bean > because "Its got a lifetime guarantee". I've got a backpack from LL Bean > I'll replace because it lasted 25 years. The fabric is losing its > waterproof backing now but I figure 25 years of hard use (4 of those years > I was in high school, thats hard use) were a good life. Fortunately they > still make the same pack... > -Curt > From: WILTON via Mercedes > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Cc: WILTON > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:31 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack > > And what happened to integrity - doing what is right when nobody else is > watching? > > Wilton > > ----- Original Message - > From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" > To: "Mercedes List" > Cc: "Dan Penoff" > Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:38 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack > > > > Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then > > start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? > > > > I can see that ending well. I think not. > > > > Dan > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > >> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > >> wrote: > >> > >> Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth > >> a try. > >> > >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > >>> wrote: > >>> Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things > >>> like floor jacks. > >>> > >>> Dan > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPad > >>> > >>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP > >>>> in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
I would have no issues with sending it back. They are the ones who promote a lifetime (thinking that is MY lifetime) guarantee as part of their marketing. Plus from what I have heard they have absolutely no issue with swapping stuff out. Same with car parts. I buy a lifetime guarantee alternator for my truck, I keep the truck forever, I need new alternators, I get one. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 28, 2015, at 3:03 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: *Nod* Its like the people that take their old worn out boots back to LL Bean because "Its got a lifetime guarantee". I've got a backpack from LL Bean I'll replace because it lasted 25 years. The fabric is losing its waterproof backing now but I figure 25 years of hard use (4 of those years I was in high school, thats hard use) were a good life. Fortunately they still make the same pack... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: WILTON Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack And what happened to integrity - doing what is right when nobody else is watching? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack > Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then > start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? > > I can see that ending well. I think not. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >> wrote: >> >> Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth >> a try. >> >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things >>> like floor jacks. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP >>>> in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
I managed to shame the Sears guy into replacing one of my (very nice) ignition wrenches that I broke. He said they didn't have one, but I pointed out a set which included the same wrench. He said he couldn't break up a set, but I pointed out that the broken wrench broke up MY set. I was prepared to continue in that vein long enough to cost them more in lost sales than honoring their guarantee would. This was a while back, and I no longer think of Craftsman tools as pretty decent for the money; so seldom shop there. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curly McLain via Mercedes Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:05 PM To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Curly McLain Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack >Not true for most of their tools with more than one moving part. >-Curt the tap handle on my crapsman tap and die set broke almost immediately. Snears refused to replace it. They only sneered at me. After that, i've not bought much from snears. HF or FLAPS gets my biz now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
> > Some things are best purchased from Mac or Snap On believe it or not. Sockets > would be a good example. Snappy's "patented technology" is called > "Flank-Drive" I think, and it works quite well. But for many years now, I've been buying sockets from HF with broached-out corners that look just like Flank Drive. I think you're right in that it was patented instead of copyrighted. I've got Flank Drive sockets dating back to the late 1970s so I'm sure the patent is long gone. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
My understanding is that very few items now sold under the "Craftsman" name brand is now made in USA. As the USA tool manufacturers closed up shop, or moved off shore [to China, or Taiwan, or India] Sears has stopped the "Lifetime guarantee" almost completely. Harbor Freight, however, now has lifetime guarantee on the majority of it's tools.. If you join their Inside Track Club... On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > "Was it Crapsman branded?" Yes, it was part of a crapsman tap and die set. > > SK and Truecraft are wonderful and reasonably priced. I had a little US > 3/8 drive SK Socket set I carried in my original 190D. It came in a little > steel box. Truecraft makes a Metric allen wrench set that goes up to > 17mm. I am on my second set in 40 years. the first set was stolen ~20 > years ago. I have never broken one of them. Truecraft 12" adjustable > wrench is the #1 farm tool. To me it was used more than a pliers or a > knife. > > snappy for special stuff. Used to buy special stuff from Mac, but they > disappeared from this part of the country. > > > Was it Crapsman branded? They've got a bunch of other crappy tool brands >> now to get out of the warranty business. >> Best thing I ever did 5-8 years ago was buy an SK ratchet, its an >> excellent tool. Sadly I guess they've gone in the toilet now too but the >> ratchet I got is fantastic. Way better than any of the Crapsman ones I've >> ever had. >> The Crapsman wrenches now are particularly egregious. They feel terrible >> in the hand, rough and scratchy. The HF cheapies are polished and lovely, >> strong too. >> -Curt >> From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> >> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:04 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack >> >> >> Not true for most of their tools with more than one moving part. >>> -Curt >>> >> >> the tap handle on my crapsman tap and die set broke almost >> immediately. Snears refused to replace it. They only sneered at me. >> After that, i've not bought much from snears. HF or FLAPS gets my >> biz now >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
"Was it Crapsman branded?" Yes, it was part of a crapsman tap and die set. SK and Truecraft are wonderful and reasonably priced. I had a little US 3/8 drive SK Socket set I carried in my original 190D. It came in a little steel box. Truecraft makes a Metric allen wrench set that goes up to 17mm. I am on my second set in 40 years. the first set was stolen ~20 years ago. I have never broken one of them. Truecraft 12" adjustable wrench is the #1 farm tool. To me it was used more than a pliers or a knife. snappy for special stuff. Used to buy special stuff from Mac, but they disappeared from this part of the country. Was it Crapsman branded? They've got a bunch of other crappy tool brands now to get out of the warranty business. Best thing I ever did 5-8 years ago was buy an SK ratchet, its an excellent tool. Sadly I guess they've gone in the toilet now too but the ratchet I got is fantastic. Way better than any of the Crapsman ones I've ever had. The Crapsman wrenches now are particularly egregious. They feel terrible in the hand, rough and scratchy. The HF cheapies are polished and lovely, strong too. -Curt From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack Not true for most of their tools with more than one moving part. -Curt the tap handle on my crapsman tap and die set broke almost immediately. Snears refused to replace it. They only sneered at me. After that, i've not bought much from snears. HF or FLAPS gets my biz now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Harbor Freight sockets are actually very good and very cheap. The only thing I dislike is that they are generally laser etched for size but they're cheap enough so when the etching is rusted off its just time to buy new ones. I've never broken one, or had it not fit correctly. I have I think 6 sets now... -Curt From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes To: Curly McLain via Mercedes Cc: Rick Knoble Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack Curly sez: >After that, i've not bought much >from snears. HF or FLAPS gets my >biz now Some things are best purchased from Mac or Snap On believe it or not. Sockets would be a good example. Snappy's "patented technology" is called "Flank-Drive" I think, and it works quite well. Rick Sent from my AT&T Trimline Phone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Was it Crapsman branded? They've got a bunch of other crappy tool brands now to get out of the warranty business. Best thing I ever did 5-8 years ago was buy an SK ratchet, its an excellent tool. Sadly I guess they've gone in the toilet now too but the ratchet I got is fantastic. Way better than any of the Crapsman ones I've ever had. The Crapsman wrenches now are particularly egregious. They feel terrible in the hand, rough and scratchy. The HF cheapies are polished and lovely, strong too. -Curt From: Curly McLain <126die...@gmail.com> To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 3:04 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack >Not true for most of their tools with more than one moving part. >-Curt the tap handle on my crapsman tap and die set broke almost immediately. Snears refused to replace it. They only sneered at me. After that, i've not bought much from snears. HF or FLAPS gets my biz now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Curly sez: >After that, i've not bought much >from snears. HF or FLAPS gets my >biz now Some things are best purchased from Mac or Snap On believe it or not. Sockets would be a good example. Snappy's "patented technology" is called "Flank-Drive" I think, and it works quite well. Rick Sent from my AT&T Trimline Phone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Not true for most of their tools with more than one moving part. -Curt the tap handle on my crapsman tap and die set broke almost immediately. Snears refused to replace it. They only sneered at me. After that, i've not bought much from snears. HF or FLAPS gets my biz now ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
*Nod* Its like the people that take their old worn out boots back to LL Bean because "Its got a lifetime guarantee". I've got a backpack from LL Bean I'll replace because it lasted 25 years. The fabric is losing its waterproof backing now but I figure 25 years of hard use (4 of those years I was in high school, thats hard use) were a good life. Fortunately they still make the same pack... -Curt From: WILTON via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: WILTON Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack And what happened to integrity - doing what is right when nobody else is watching? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack > Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then > start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? > > I can see that ending well. I think not. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >> wrote: >> >> Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth >> a try. >> >>> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things >>> like floor jacks. >>> >>> Dan >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> > Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP >>> > in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. >>> > >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Not true for most of their tools with more than one moving part. -Curt From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: Andrew Strasfogel Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks, Grant. > > Yes, it’s full of fluid. It leaks out of the main ram area, so I know > that O ring is shot. > > Sears has a manual for it, but nothing on the inner workings of the > cylinder or valves. > > There are any number of folks selling “rebuild kits” for these jacks out > there, but I wince at the thought of paying someone $50 for a couple of O > rings. One of the web sites I looked at today said that the Harbor Freight > metric O ring kit would have everything needed to reseal the cylinder and > valves. > > I’m going to swing by HF tonight and drop $8.00 for the O ring set. I’ll > probably tear into it this weekend. > > Dan > > > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > First question: Have you added fluid to proper amount? > > If it's leaking and fluid level is low.. it won't pump as it should. > > > > Next questions: Does the Craftsman site have an exploded parts manual for > > the exact jack? > > > > Parts manual? > > > > Parts available? > > > > If you have the parts diagram, you can see how it comes apart.. order > parts > > and have them in advance.. > > > > O rings, seals, and valves and seats.. You will have an AS NEW jack... > > shouldn't take you more than a couple hours. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Rick opines on integrity: >Integrity is for the proletariat, and >perhaps some of the bourgeoisie. >It is >most decidedly NOT >practiced among the aristocracy. Or "wannabee aristocracy". Or The self important "entitled peasantry". Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Wilson inquires: >And what happened to integrity - >doing what is right when nobody >else is >watching? Integrity is for the proletariat, and perhaps some of the bourgeoisie. It is most decidedly NOT practiced among the aristocracy. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
And what happened to integrity - doing what is right when nobody else is watching? Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" To: "Mercedes List" Cc: "Dan Penoff" Sent: Friday, August 28, 2015 12:38 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? I can see that ending well. I think not. Dan Sent from my iPad On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth a try. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things like floor jacks. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP > in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Pretty much, that's what i recommend. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then > start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? > > I can see that ending well. I think not. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > > Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth > a try. > > > >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things > like floor jacks. > >> > >> Dan > >> > >> Sent from my iPad > >> > >> > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel < > astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP > in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. > >> > > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Ok, so I load up a 3-1/2 ton floor jack, drag it into the store, then start carrying on about it having a lifetime warranty? I can see that ending well. I think not. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:21 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth a > try. > >> On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things like >> floor jacks. >> >> Dan >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >> > wrote: >> > >> > Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP in >> > case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. >> > >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Yeah, we may know that but the dumbas* Sears clerk may not. It;'s worth a try. On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things > like floor jacks. > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > > Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP in > case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Craftsman hand tools are guaranteed for life. Not power tools or things like floor jacks. Dan Sent from my iPad > On Aug 28, 2015, at 12:08 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP in case > the local store doesn't honor this warranty. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Craftsman tools are supposedly guaranteed for LIFE! Write to the VP in case the local store doesn't honor this warranty. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 5:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks, Grant. > > Yes, it’s full of fluid. It leaks out of the main ram area, so I know > that O ring is shot. > > Sears has a manual for it, but nothing on the inner workings of the > cylinder or valves. > > There are any number of folks selling “rebuild kits” for these jacks out > there, but I wince at the thought of paying someone $50 for a couple of O > rings. One of the web sites I looked at today said that the Harbor Freight > metric O ring kit would have everything needed to reseal the cylinder and > valves. > > I’m going to swing by HF tonight and drop $8.00 for the O ring set. I’ll > probably tear into it this weekend. > > Dan > > > > On Aug 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > First question: Have you added fluid to proper amount? > > If it's leaking and fluid level is low.. it won't pump as it should. > > > > Next questions: Does the Craftsman site have an exploded parts manual for > > the exact jack? > > > > Parts manual? > > > > Parts available? > > > > If you have the parts diagram, you can see how it comes apart.. order > parts > > and have them in advance.. > > > > O rings, seals, and valves and seats.. You will have an AS NEW jack... > > shouldn't take you more than a couple hours. > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
Thanks, Grant. Yes, it’s full of fluid. It leaks out of the main ram area, so I know that O ring is shot. Sears has a manual for it, but nothing on the inner workings of the cylinder or valves. There are any number of folks selling “rebuild kits” for these jacks out there, but I wince at the thought of paying someone $50 for a couple of O rings. One of the web sites I looked at today said that the Harbor Freight metric O ring kit would have everything needed to reseal the cylinder and valves. I’m going to swing by HF tonight and drop $8.00 for the O ring set. I’ll probably tear into it this weekend. Dan > On Aug 27, 2015, at 4:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > First question: Have you added fluid to proper amount? > If it's leaking and fluid level is low.. it won't pump as it should. > > Next questions: Does the Craftsman site have an exploded parts manual for > the exact jack? > > Parts manual? > > Parts available? > > If you have the parts diagram, you can see how it comes apart.. order parts > and have them in advance.. > > O rings, seals, and valves and seats.. You will have an AS NEW jack... > shouldn't take you more than a couple hours. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
First question: Have you added fluid to proper amount? If it's leaking and fluid level is low.. it won't pump as it should. Next questions: Does the Craftsman site have an exploded parts manual for the exact jack? Parts manual? Parts available? If you have the parts diagram, you can see how it comes apart.. order parts and have them in advance.. O rings, seals, and valves and seats.. You will have an AS NEW jack... shouldn't take you more than a couple hours. On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I seem to recall someone talking about rebuilding their old floor jack. > > My Craftsman 3-1/2 ton floor jack is leaking and the quick raise feature > no longer works. I’m sure this is far from rocket science, but I also > don’t want to be without a jack for two-three weeks, either. > > Any suggestions, experience, web sites, parts resource? > > I talked to several local hydraulic places in Tampa today, and none of > them rebuilds jacks anymore. They said it’s just not profitable. > > Dan > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
I have no doubt. My biggest concern is if I can get the “quick raise” feature working again. I suspect there are some check balls in the thing somewhere and they’re not in the right place. The O rings are the easy part. The O ring on the main ram is leaking, so I know I’ll need to replace that for sure. Dan > On Aug 27, 2015, at 2:30 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I seem to recall someone talking about rebuilding their old floor jack. > > My Craftsman 3-1/2 ton floor jack is leaking and the quick raise feature no > longer works. I’m sure this is far from rocket science, but I also don’t > want to be without a jack for two-three weeks, either. > > Any suggestions, experience, web sites, parts resource? > > I talked to several local hydraulic places in Tampa today, and none of them > rebuilds jacks anymore. They said it’s just not profitable. > > Dan > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
I seem to recall someone talking about rebuilding their old floor jack. My Craftsman 3-1/2 ton floor jack is leaking and the quick raise feature no longer works. I'm sure this is far from rocket science, but I also don't want to be without a jack for two-three weeks, either. Any suggestions, experience, web sites, parts resource? I talked to several local hydraulic places in Tampa today, and none of them rebuilds jacks anymore. They said it's just not profitable. Dan CHANGE THE ORINGS! (not the fuses) if you can take it apart you can fixit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rebuilding Floor Jack
I seem to recall someone talking about rebuilding their old floor jack. My Craftsman 3-1/2 ton floor jack is leaking and the quick raise feature no longer works. I’m sure this is far from rocket science, but I also don’t want to be without a jack for two-three weeks, either. Any suggestions, experience, web sites, parts resource? I talked to several local hydraulic places in Tampa today, and none of them rebuilds jacks anymore. They said it’s just not profitable. Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
