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On Jul 29, 2013, at 03:42 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:06:47 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
NO! NO! NO! You can't
That is my next step.
Thanks,
mike
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On Jul 29, 2013, at 04:45 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
First question, I believe, is still not answered. That is the question, Is
this pump
My next step is to get one of the pumps that we have tried tested by Bosch Service Center. If it checks out, I try the install myself. If it is junk I buy rebuilt and have them put it in.
Mike
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Mike,
I suggest you try the install yourself before spending money on a pump.
Your mechanic has proven he doesn't know what he is doing. You can do a
better job yourself with the help of the listers who have already told you
how to do it with basic tools and knowhow. If you can follow
Mike,
Unless you just want to throw money at it, first check the timing of the
currently installed IP. It is not hard and costs next to nothing. You have
the instructions. The hardest part is removing the valve cover and I think
you can even skip that if you can see the #1 cylinder valves
Garage guy does not know you need a new pump. He is not doing the job
right and expects you to throw money at a new pump for him to not time
right. I am not trying to be a jackass but when are you going to wise up
and tell this guy you are through with him wasting your time and money?
Mike
On
$1400+ from Keenan for one for my 350D.
Wilton
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My next step is to get one of the pumps that we have tried tested by Bosch
Service Center. If it checks out, I try the install myself. If it is junk
I buy rebuilt and have them put it in.
Mike?
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My next step is to get one of the pumps that we have tried tested by Bosch
Service Center. If it checks out, I try the install myself. If it is junk
I buy rebuilt and have them put it in.
Mike
New to you? Or OEM NOS?
Rick Knoble
Sent from My Samsung tabletMike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:Latest
developments - My garage guy said he can get new pump from his supplier in
California for $600. Is $600.00 for new pump realistic? I thought it would
be much more.
Mike
Michael E.
OEM NOS.
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 1:24 PM, rickknoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
New to you? Or OEM NOS?
Rick Knoble
Sent from My Samsung tabletMike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:Latest
developments - My garage guy said he can get new pump from his
Don't you have three pumps now, with one in the car? If you're going to
send one off to be bench tested, send two. If the first one they test is
OK, don't test the second one, just ship it back, or sell it at core value
(if there is any) to them. Might have time if the first one it not good. My
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 14:03:14 -0400 Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
OEM NOS.
That's a reasonable price, but you do know two things:
1. Your mechanic is stringing you on, wasting your time and money,
because he does not know how to time a Benz injection pump.
2. It has not been proven
rickknoble wrote:
New to you? Or OEM NOS?
I wonder if it's Bosch or the Indian company that made those turbo OM616 clones?
$600 is probably half the cost of having a pump rebuilt.
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rickknoble wrote:
New to you? Or OEM NOS?
I wonder if it's Bosch or the Indian company that made those turbo OM616
clones?
$600 is probably half the cost of having a pump rebuilt.
Oops, disregard.
Mike said New OEM.
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No way that it s new pump.
It cost me $600 to get a OM621 pump rebuilt and tested 30+ years ago.
A rebuilt pump for $600 with no core charge is a bargain... if it was
done properly. That is the question.
Latest developments - My garage guy said he can get new pump from
his supplier in
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Mitch Haley wrote:
rickknoble wrote:
New to you? Or OEM NOS?
I wonder if it's Bosch or the Indian company that made those turbo OM616
clones?
$600 is probably half the cost of having
$1400+ for rebuilt, I think, for 350D from Keenan.
Wilton
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I know Mike said new
Williams Diesel down here in Ocala, fl had them for $395 about a
year ago. All rebuilt and tested.
Manfred
Mike Esh wrote:
Latest developments - My garage guy said he can get new pump from his
supplier in California for $600. Is $600.00 for new pump realistic? I
thought it would be much
No
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On Jul 30, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
Latest developments - My garage guy said he can get new pump from his
supplier in California for $600. Is $600.00 for new pump realistic? I
thought it would be much more.
Mike
Michael E. Esh
Speaking of which what is the deal with the sdl?
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$1400+ from Keenan for one for my 350D.
Wilton
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Awaiting oil analysis report on the 350SDL.
Wilton
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Speaking of which what
On Tue, 30 Jul 2013 20:01:19 -0400 WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
Awaiting oil analysis report on the 350SDL.
We are waiting to hear, too.
Craig
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Speaking of which what is the deal with the sdl?
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$1400+ from Keenan for one for my 350D.
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I got my trailer ready to go
The vultures are circling.
Here's hoping they get driven away. :-)
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On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:06:47 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
NO! NO! NO! You can't turn the engine over with the starter when
timing!!!
I have been following this thread agonizing for Michael with the
continued frustration of things not working right, over and over and over.
Michigan maybe?
Mike C.
From NY about 500 miles to far away.
On Jul 29, 2013 3:42 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jul 2013 21:06:47 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
NO! NO! NO! You can't turn the engine over with the starter when
timing!!!
I have been
First question, I believe, is still not answered. That is the question, Is
this pump in good serviceable condition?
Before spending any more time with timing, I would suggest that question be
answered with a bench test at a reliable diesel shop with a working IP flow
bench and specs for the Benz
agreed.for the last question: We know where the timing is. It
is out of time.
First question, I believe, is still not answered. That is the question, Is
this pump in good serviceable condition?
Before spending any more time with timing, I would suggest that question be
answered with a
On 29/07/2013 3:45 PM, G Mann wrote:
First question, I believe, is still not answered. That is the question, Is
this pump in good serviceable condition?
Before spending any more time with timing, I would suggest that question be
answered with a bench test at a reliable diesel shop with a
Craig wrote:
BTW, Michael, where are you located? On the east coast someplace as I
recall.
Mike Esh is about 100 miles west of me, near Lake Michigan.
Mike Canfield is in NY somewhere IIRC.
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On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:59:40 -0500 Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca
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On 29/07/2013 3:45 PM, G Mann wrote:
Before spending any more time with timing, I would suggest that
question be answered with a bench test at a reliable diesel shop with
a working IP flow bench and specs for the
On Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:57:11 -0600 Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
I agree with Randy. We know it's out of time now. Why not take the
less-expensive route and see if it runs when correctly timed? Then if it
doesn't work
(oops)
you can try another pump, and maybe the third pump as well.
Also need to keep in mind that there are some pumps with the
Bosch production number 251 that may have the mark on the housing
in the wrong place. Not all of them either. It should be under
the approximate middle of a bolt if it isn't then you need to set
the gear mark three teeth to the left
Can't tell from your description.
1. Assuming that he followed the outlined procedure and you
watched as the cam turned to the correct point and it was on the
compression stroke then we go to--
2. When you say he 'rolled it over' What does that mean? It's
kind of like going to buy a new car
Thanks Manfred,
He used an engine starter button to turn the engine over and we did not see the
welling up, only spurting. I will pass along this information to him and we
sill start again on Monday. My lack of knowledge as well as his is become
glaringly apparent. I will be talking to the
There are very specific procedures and if the mechanic does not know them
then he is blowing smoke when he tells you he has done the job right in the
past. There is no way he can turn the engine with the starter and get an
accurate idea of when fuel delivery starts, NOT when it spurts out. He
Yes, I am coming to that conclusion myself. My faith in a competent mechanic
has faded away.
Michael E. Esh
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On Jul 27, 2013, at 9:15 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
There are very specific procedures and if the mechanic does not know them
then he is blowing
So, how close to Mike is the nearest lister that has a clue about how to
get this thing running? Sounds like maybe he just needs a day of fiddling
around by someone who knows just how precise Diesel timing needs to be.
Mike
On Jul 27, 2013 9:37 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
Yes, I am
You need to find or make a drip tube and use it correctly, it's not
all that hard. You and cheat with some clear plastic tubing if you
cannot find a drip tube.
Remove the #1 injector line, remove the pressure valve holder and
pressure valve. Replace the pressure valve holder. This is to
Read about a man who had a boat with a diesel engine that had similar
problems. He called an injection pump rebuild shop, explained his problem,
and asked them to recommend a mechanic who could help. The diesel mechanic
they recommended worked primarily on heavy machinery, trucks, and the
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There are very specific procedures and if the mechanic does not know them
then he is blowing
) but I
don't know if it's possible or likely on Mike's engine?
Scott
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One other thought, is it possible for vibration damper (the thing with the
TDC and crank angle indications on the front of the crank shaft) to fail and
slip
Thanks Manfred,
He used an engine starter button to turn the
engine over and we did not see the welling up,
only spurting. I will pass along this
information to him and we sill start again on
Monday. My lack of knowledge as well as his is
become glaringly apparent. I will be talking to
You need to find or make a drip tube and use it
correctly, it's not all that hard. You and
cheat with some clear plastic tubing if you
cannot find a drip tube.
Remove the #1 injector line, remove the pressure
valve holder and pressure valve. Replace the
pressure valve holder. This is to
The saga continues.
I have the new /used pump installed at 180 degrees from normal and we are still
having an issue of very low power. The mechanic had a very difficult time
getting the pump installed at this position. He said it kept moving off several
teeth as he placed in position. He
Bummer. no obstruction in the intake manifold?
Is the throttle linkage hooked up correctly?
84 300D should have the newer throttle linkage,
not the bellcrank, so that makes it easier.
Does it run correctly if you run the throttle
manually under the hood? Now that it idles well,
is the
In that case he probably should install the pump the way he knows how to do
it. Sounds like he knows how to do it right so the problem is likely
elsewhere.
Mike
On Jul 26, 2013 8:59 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
The saga continues.
I have the new /used pump installed at 180 degrees
Yes,
we have tried that with this and one other pump previously.
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On Jul 26, 2013, at 10:50 AM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
In that case he probably should install the
Can you put the original pump back on and make it run just like when you
started out? That will be the test of the install procedure.
Sounds like it is time to put it back and start from scratch.
Mike
On Jul 26, 2013 11:17 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
Yes,
we have tried that with
Call Mel at Conestoga Diesel http://www.conestogadiesel.com/
717-806-5561
Send your pump to him for a bench check to verify if it's in spec or not.
That will give you a solid place to start and answer the burning question
is the IP any good, or does it have issues that are causing the
Mike I have to take this one question at a time.
Did you see the mechanic do a drip timing test with the valve
cover off the engine?
Manfred
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2013 12:59:19 + (GMT)
From: Mike Esh michael...@mac.com
The saga continues.
I have the new /used pump installed at 180 degrees
No, I am at work. I sent him the following information from people on our
forum.. with emphasis on the last paragraph. He agreed to try it. Manfred,
will this get the timing close? He has not called back yet.
Mike
Mike I have to take this one question at a time.
Did you see the
It is the ONLY way to get it right, now that no one knows where
the pump is set. You have to have the valve cover off so you can
see if both of the valves for #1 are closed when the drip for #1
happens. Right now it could still be 90 pump deg, or 180 more
engine degs out of time.
Manfred
Thanks Manfred. I stopped by the shop today and watched him set it up with #1
on the compression stroke then roll the engine over and watched the fuel spurt
out and the timing mark stop at 24 degrees. Does this mean it is in the proper
range? The weird thing is the mechanic had supposedly
Michael Canfield wrote:
Can you put the original pump back on and make it run just like when you
started out? That will be the test of the install procedure.
Reminds me of a certain W124. Ran great but had a sticky throttle (internal to
IP). Had dealer in Kzoo install a used pump, and it
Don't know about /black /smoke and loping at idle but I had a MB that
had white smoke ran slowly or failed to move forward - it would not
go faster than ~10mph - then all of a sudden it would spring to life. -
it turned out to be carbon buildup in the head..
Don't know if yours is similar
Wow! That is crazy!
Mike
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On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 06:25:09 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
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Wow! That is crazy!
Mike
What is crazy? You didn't quote anything from the previous post.
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One guy rebent the injection lines to match the firing order. 1 4 3 2 in
place of just replacing the lines. (1 2 3 4) That was about max
stupidity, but to a gas engine guy, the lines sort of resembled spark plug
wires
That is what is crazy. Maybe I will get the hang of trimming posts on
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 14:04:09 -0400 Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
wrote:
One guy rebent the injection lines to match the firing order. 1 4 3 2
in place of just replacing the lines. (1 2 3 4) That was about max
stupidity, but to a gas engine guy, the lines sort of resembled spark
plug
On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote:
Maybe I will get the hang of trimming posts on my
phone someday.
What phone? iPhone is dead simple. My Android tablet, not so much, to the point
I don't even read email on it...
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
HTC Evo 4g lte. Android OS. Not the phones fault, I just don't pay
attention and hit buttons too fast.
Mike
On Jul 8, 2013 2:16 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:
On Jul 8, 2013, at 1:04 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com
wrote:
Maybe I will get the hang of trimming
One guy rebent the injection lines to match the firing order. 1 4 3 2 in
place of just replacing the lines. (1 2 3 4) That was about max
stupidity, but to a gas engine guy, the lines sort of resembled spark plug
wires
That is what is crazy. Maybe I will get the hang of trimming posts on
I have done many other things on my cars and I
always enjoy the learning that takes place. I
have little knowledge or experience with the
injection pump and no one close by that could
help me get through it the first time. I am
learning more as we go from my mechanic and this
forum. I will
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:59:34 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Without the tool, I had to invent a way to do the same thing (get the
pump in time) so I read a lot and thought about what has to be
accomplished, then developed ways to do it without the expensive MB
tools.
You can do
On Mon, 8 Jul 2013 22:59:34 -0500 Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
Without the tool, I had to invent a way to do the same thing (get the
pump in time) so I read a lot and thought about what has to be
accomplished, then developed ways to do it without the expensive MB
tools.
You can
Dieselhead wrote:
II have engines sit for years and then fire right up. I don't
think purge will help this problem.
So, you think if the pumps were removed from good running cars, the
problem isn't in storage, so we're either looking at two different
sellers sticking him/me with bad pumps
II have engines sit for years and then fire right up. I don't think
purge will help this problem.
Mike Esh wrote:
I drove it today about 20 miles on the highway.
Have you tried to clean the pumps?
They may have gotten gummy being stored with diesel fuel instead of
calibrating oil. You
Dieselhead wrote:
II have engines sit for years and then fire right up. I don't think
purge will help this problem.
So, you think if the pumps were removed from good running cars, the problem
isn't in storage, so we're either looking at two different sellers sticking
him/me with bad pumps
I agree on this IF the pump is not sitting on a shelf somewhere. A
complete engine with a closed fuel system is a whole different story than a
pump with old fuel and air in it sitting in storage.
Did either pump have protective caps to cover the ports installed before
storage?
I do, however,
Michael Canfield wrote:
Did either pump have protective caps to cover the ports installed before
storage?
I don't know about replacement pump #2.
The one he got from me was wrapped like a mummy in commercial duty Saran Wrap
type stuff, padded with shredded paper and taped up in a cardboard
Mike Esh wrote:
I drove it today about 20 miles on the highway.
Have you tried to clean the pumps?
They may have gotten gummy being stored with diesel fuel instead of calibrating
oil. You could disconnect the fuel and return lines, put them in a can of purge,
and run on 100% diesel purge
I will try that today.
Michael E. Esh
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On Jul 2, 2013, at 6:19 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Mike Esh wrote:
I drove it today about 20 miles on the highway.
Have you tried to clean the pumps?
They may have gotten gummy being stored with diesel fuel instead of
The Diesel-Purge treatment should be the first thing you do after getting a
used pump installed and running. No way to adjust and get it running right
if it is sticky and dirty inside.
Mike
On Jul 2, 2013 6:20 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Mike Esh wrote:
I drove it today about 20
] Black smoke and loping at idle.
Hey Mike,
Sounds like you are learning a valuable lesson that all of us that don't
know should.With a 30 year old German car you are much better off
just learning to do the job yourself. Not trying to rub it in or anything
like that. Just hoping other
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Hey Mike,
Sounds like you are learning a valuable lesson that all of us that don't
know should
Mike Esh wrote:
I have done many other things on my cars and I always enjoy the learning that takes place. I have little knowledge or experience with the injection pump and no one close by that could help me get through it the first time. I am learning more as we go from my mechanic and this
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That's why were all here listening and chiming in occasionally. 'Always
enjoy learning, thank you. ;)
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On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:
The electrical technology is
stone-age, but my 30+ year-old SD provides almost all of the features of
the
latest cars.
My 27-year-old W124 provides features that I've seen on very few new cars,
like the puddle
Has the crank damper slipped, leaving no relationship between the timing marks
and the actual crank position?
Any chance the timing chain skipped some teeth when the IP was out of the car?
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Mitch Haley wrote:
Has the crank damper slipped, leaving no relationship between the timing
marks and the actual crank position?
Any chance the timing chain skipped some teeth when the IP was out of
the car?
And thirdly, does the engine now stumble and smoke when the original IP is put
Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and
persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer -
doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result! Now, it is
possible that you have two defective IPs, I've had that with alternators
from FLAPS,
Nice. I will store that info away in the back of my brain for future use.
Does sound odd that 3 pumps are not working. Very curious to know what
would happen if original pump was put back on.
Seeing there is so much trouble I would not have a problem at all asking
how many of these jobs he has
I will try your method tomorrow to see how close the timing is. Then I will
work with mechanic directly to get this car back on the road. I will also ask
about experience with these diesel pumps.
Mike
On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Since this problem started with the
Update - I changed the injectors and there was no change.
Installed new/used/unmolested ALDA, it actually runs a little worse.
I drove it today about 20 miles on the highway. It started very hard and would
not not stay running without pushing the accelerator to the floor until it
started to
Hey Mike,
Sounds like you are learning a valuable lesson that all of us that don't
know should.With a 30 year old German car you are much better off
just learning to do the job yourself. Not trying to rub it in or anything
like that. Just hoping other lurkers may learn from your/our
If the ALDA was not shimmed properly I suppose there could be too much
fuel? But timing would also be suspect.
On Saturday, June 29, 2013, OK Don wrote:
Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and
persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer -
Peter Others,
Thank you all for the information and ideas.
I changed out the injectors last night and it made no difference at all. I did
adjust the alda all the way closed and the car would not idle or achieve and
rpm 2500 and was not drivable. When I moved it back out (ccw) it would run
Mike,
Sounds like the ALDA is doing it's job.
What timing method is the mechanic using?
I would seriously do a Diesel-Purge treatment before adjusting anything. I
would think that both pumps could be gummed up after setting for a couple
years. Are you 100% sure you don't have a bad rubber
Michael Canfield wrote:
I would seriously do a Diesel-Purge treatment before adjusting anything. I
would think that both pumps could be gummed up after setting for a couple
years.
Purge was mentioned when he was having trouble with my IP, but I never heard if
it was used.
Mitch.
Since this problem started with the installation of another IP, and
persists with a second IP, I would be very suspicious of the installer -
doing the same thing twice and expecting a different result! Now, it is
possible that you have two defective IPs, I've had that with alternators
from FLAPS,
Mechanic is adjusting the timing to help it but we are not having much success. I drove it home last night and it blew black smoke all the way and would not get above 65 miles an hour. Very low power. Could this be caused by the injectors? This is a two tank veg-oil car currently running on
Other info for those who forgot the history:
This car did not smoke when the original pump was in it a few weeks ago, it was
running fine on WVO when I saw it.
It had a lot of WVO run through it, and had been stalling when hot, would run
again if he threw cold water on the IP.
I sold him a
Thanks for the help Mitch. I have not changed the Alda yet, I plan on trying that and different injectors after work today.
Michael E. Esh
On Jun 28, 2013, at 07:43 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
Other info for those who forgot the history:
This car did not smoke when the
Isn't the ALDA supposed to control fuel at low speed with no boost? Black
smoke and no power sounds like too much fuel or not enough air. Is the
turbo spooling up? Could be timing advanced too far I guess.
Mike
On Jun 28, 2013 7:48 AM, Mike Esh michael...@mac.com wrote:
Thanks for the help
Check that hose from the intake manifold to the ALDA too, it sends boost
pressure and if it is clogged or not connected properly that can cause
all kinds of power issues.
--R
On 6/28/13 10:09 AM, Michael Canfield wrote:
Isn't the ALDA supposed to control fuel at low speed with no boost?
Yes, I understand it is supposed to control fuel flow at low speed w/out boost. I am
looking for any solution at this point and will try almost anything. We have
tried adjusting the timing back and forth to get a steady idle and power at speed.
Nothing is working correctly at this time. It
What is the tested condition of your injector nozzles? Do they have a
clean cone with find droplet size? or do the break clean at pressure ? Do
they shut off clean when they should?
If you nozzles are dribble and squirt, bad atomization, and drool after
shut off pressure spec it can cause the
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