On May 05 19:40:23, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this boulshit about
software engineering in my university.
Unified Modeling Language...
I think it's just part of all that Java non-sense.
Hear once, spam everywhere
* Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org [2010-05-05 21:12]:
I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this boulshit about
software engineering in my university.
UML works.
UML is very important - for commercial software development.
makes shiny graphs that enable you to sell
Thank you all for your replies.
Some points to note:
1 - I did not intend to start a flame war, although now I realize it
may have sounded like one.
2 - I spend 5 hours everyday in a place where *most* people believes
in this bullshit and started to question my sanity (ohh pooor me).
3 - I
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:57:29PM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
The computer industry is driven by fashion instead of quality...
Not really. In all seriousness, the software development industry is
driven by companies that believe that deep down, software developers are
like brick
On 05/06/2010 10:49 AM, Darrin Chandler wrote:
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 11:57:29PM -0300, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO wrote:
The computer industry is driven by fashion instead of quality...
Not really. In all seriousness, the software development industry is
driven by companies that
Sorry for such an out of topic thread, hear my pain:
I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this boulshit about
software engineering in my university.
My feeling is that someone wrote it, never implemented it, and for
some stupid reason, the industry/academia bought it.
So as I regard
On 05/05/2010 10:08 PM, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
Sorry for such an out of topic thread, hear my pain:
I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this boulshit about
software engineering in my university.
User Mode Linux works ok, you should probably try asking over on one of
the
I think the UML the OP is referring to is Unified Modeling Language
and Rational Unified Process.
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/05/2010 10:08 PM, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
Sorry for such an out of topic thread, hear my pain:
I'm really
On Wed, 05.05.2010 at 14:31:32 -0500, Walter Goulet wgou...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the UML the OP is referring to is Unified Modeling Language
and Rational Unified Process.
I think this solves it:
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote:
:P
;)
Kind
On 5 May 2010 16:25, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/05/2010 10:08 PM, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
Sorry for such an out of topic thread, hear my pain:
I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this boulshit about
software engineering in my university.
User Mode
Hi,
I'm not an OpenBSD developer, but would like to chime in anyway:
On Wed, 05.05.2010 at 16:08:47 -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert
haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this boulshit about
software engineering in my university.
Many of those things
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Christiano F. Haesbaert
haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
On 5 May 2010 16:25, Lars Nooden lars.cura...@gmail.com wrote:
On 05/05/2010 10:08 PM, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
Sorry for such an out of topic thread, hear my pain:
I'm really sick of hearing
I have sen many attempts at UML and they all ended in tears. Not
surprising because UML is an academic thing that does not apply to that
thing we call reality. Total waste of time. But wait, it gets
better! If you want to see it fail even more spectacularly use the
tools they have such as
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 03:48:24PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
I have sen many attempts at UML and they all ended in tears. Not
surprising because UML is an academic thing
Wasn't it a business thing from the beginning on, as you wrote in
the next paragraph?
that does not apply to that
, can someone state that it works ?
To: OpenBSD Questions misc@openbsd.org
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 7:08 PM
Sorry for such an out of topic
thread, hear my pain:
I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this
boulshit about
software engineering in my university.
My feeling
Hilarity.
ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/uk/itsolutions/developer/RSDC2007/Rational_song.mp3
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 03:48:24PM -0500, Marco Peereboom wrote:
I have sen many attempts at UML and they all ended in tears. Not
surprising because UML is an academic thing that does not apply
I'm really sick of hearing about UML/RUP and all this boulshit about
software engineering in my university.
Unified Modeling Language...
I think it's just part of all that Java non-sense.
...@peereboom.us
Subject: Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works ?
To: Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org
Cc: OpenBSD Questions misc@openbsd.org
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 8:48 PM
I have sen many attempts at UML and
they all ended in tears. Not
surprising because UML
Can you provide a real working example ?
Because no one has ever done that for me.
Even if you can, can you provide 2 or three examples ?
I would think again on the never working with inteliigent people part.
Can you or anyone, prove that this works *more often than not* ?
I'm at the point
Subject: Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works ?
To: Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org
Cc: OpenBSD Questions misc@openbsd.org
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 8:48 PM
I have sen many attempts at UML and
they all ended in tears. Not
surprising because UML is an academic thing
Ok, now I think we can stop this post.
No one can present a working example.
Sorry for the noise.
it. But I also have a
3-year-old, so pointless back-and-forth is something I'm adept at right now.
--- On Wed, 5/5/10, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
From: Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org
Subject: Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works
.
--- On Wed, 5/5/10, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br wrote:
From: VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br
Subject: Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works ?
To: haesba...@haesbaert.org, lars.cura...@gmail.com
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 10:40 PM
there is the rest.
--- On Wed, 5/5/10, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br wrote:
From: VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br
Subject: Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works ?
To: haesba...@haesbaert.org, lars.cura...@gmail.com
Cc: misc@openbsd.org
Date: Wednesday, May 5
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--- On Wed, 5/5/10, Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org wrote:
From: Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org
Subject: Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works ?
To: dereck dereckhask...@yahoo.com
Cc: Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us, OpenBSD Questions
misc
: Marco Peereboom sl...@peereboom.us
Subject: Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works ?
To: dereck dereckhask...@yahoo.com
Cc: Christiano F. Haesbaert haesba...@haesbaert.org, OpenBSD Questions
misc@openbsd.org
Date: Thursday, May 6, 2010, 1:40 AM
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 05:02:07PM
-0700
Shake out your head gear. There is a difference between user programs and
system programs. The overwhelming majority of user-land programs are done
in OOP languages. That Java nonsense just happens to be the most popular
programming language.
Yes and the vast majority of people is
Straw man and false analogy in one post. Batting 1000% so far.
--- On Thu, 5/6/10, VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br wrote:
From: VICTOR TARABOLA CORTIANO vt...@c3sl.ufpr.br
Subject: Re: OT - UML, can someone state that it works ?
To: dereckhask...@yahoo.com, haesba
The computer industry is driven by fashion instead of quality...
On Wed, 5 May 2010 19:25:54 -0700 (PDT), dereck wrote:
Like I said - you are a smart guy!
And you are not. If you were you would know that none of what you are
trolling about is of any relevance to OpenBSD.
It's just noise.
If you think that spamming the list to find the one or two people who
But here are the facts smart man: Java is so common that it is known to as
_the_ application language of our time - it is ubiquitous.
LMAO
Why don't YOU provide an example of some USEFUL program in Java?
toward it changes that not one bit. And a fair portion of this new Java is
documented
Why don't YOU provide an example of some USEFUL program in
Java?
You are joking, right? Much of your day-to-day life activity (silently) works
in Java. For one example: most banking and financial firms have multiple
millions in investment in Java back office, Java Web Services and Web
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 04:08:47PM -0300, Christiano F. Haesbaert wrote:
So as I regard the openbsd folks as highly skilled developers, I ask
for your opinion.
I'm not an OpenBSD Developer. Probably you asking on the wrong list.
Is my impression completely wrong ?
We've made a whole Java
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