Re: updating source code from updated tarballs

2007-11-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
? It seems like a typical operation. > Comments? Part of what you say looks sound and standard, but part of it does not. Yours, Ingo -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Serverbetrieb usta.de / studis.de

Re: [OT] making Firefox respect telnet:// URLs

2007-11-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> #!/bin/sh > xterm -e "telnet `echo ${*##telnet://} | sed 's/:/ /g'`" [...] > - I *think* the {} bit is awk(1), No, "/bin/sh" is not awk(1), but sh(1). =;c) [...] > If awk(1) can remove telnet:// from $* (if present), > then surely it should be able to turn a colon (if present) > into a space,

Re: OpenBSD from scratch

2007-11-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Adrian Fisher wrote on Sun, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:47:56PM +: > I am sure many of you will be familiar with the web-site Linux from > scratch (http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/) which is fine for those > who wish to use Linux but has anyone here tried it with Open? OpenBSD ist designed as a consis

Re: mutt + reply-to

2007-11-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Sean, > I realize this isn't directly OpenBSD-related, though believe I came > across a message in misc a while back That was me (on ports@, not misc@). > that discussed including a reply-to field in mutt. Er, well, mutt is able to set the Reply-To: all right. It is trivial to set arbitrary

Re: Remove escape characters from file

2007-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Peter, > does OpenBSD have a program/script to remove control characters (escape > sequence) from text files? Sure, sed 's/[^A-Z ]//g' No kidding: Usually you want to specify which characters to allow, not which characters to remove (default deny policy). In case you want to allow more than

Re: openbsd debugger

2007-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Thomas, Thomas Bvrnert wrote on Fri, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:26:13PM +0200: > if everyone want to see the openbsd debugger, > here a nice tipp or bug :-) > as root > ---snip--- > mount -o ro /& > mount -o ro / > ---snip--- In case this is supposed to be a bug report, you could be a bit more specif

Re: files in root directory

2007-09-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Paul, hi Chris, Paul de Weerd wrote on Sat, Sep 29, 2007 at 10:01:28PM +0200: > On Fri, Sep 28, 2007 at 09:48:08PM -0400, Chris Nolan wrote: >> Hello, I read through the FAQ and searched the archives but couldn't >> find an answer to this question. In /src/distrib/sets/lists/etc/mi, >> why do

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sun, Sep 16, 2007 at 04:40:38PM -0700: > On Sun, 16 Sep 2007, Jacob Meuser wrote: >> so the linux community is morally equivilent to a corporation? >> that's what it sounds like you are all legally satisfied with. > > if it's legal it's legal. it's not a matter of the Li

Re: Wasting our Freedom

2007-09-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Adrian Bunk wrote on Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 02:57:14PM +0200: > But stating in your licence that noone has to give back but then > complaining to some people on ethical grounds that they should give > back is simply dishonest. > > Is your intention to allow people to include your code into GPL'ed

Re: Is this a filesystem bug?

2007-09-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Miod Vallat wrote on Sat, Sep 08, 2007 at 07:07:46PM +: > Otto Moerbeek wrote: >> It's not a bug, see mount(2). > You meant mount(8). All the same, in view of the code in /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_lookup.c, function lookup, near ISDOTDOT, please consider: Index: mount.2 =

Re: regular user can't login in with xdm

2007-08-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, ambrosehuang ambrose wrote on Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 03:46:16PM +0800: > When I finished installing the OpenBSD 4.1 on my thinkpad > T43, I changed the "xdm_config="NO" to "xdm_config="" " in the > /etc/rc.conf.local, You changed 'xdm_flags="NO"' to 'xdm_flags=""' in /etc/rc.conf(8), didn't yo

Re: booting to ignore fstab

2007-07-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Woodchuck wrote on Mon, Jul 02, 2007 at 03:31:04PM -0400: > On Mon, 2 Jul 2007, David B. wrote: >> Hi, hate to bother. I'm working in 3.8 Hm, this is unrelated, but anyway: Release 3.8 is past its end of life and no more supported. You should upgrade to release 4.1 soon - you *do* want to have b

Re: path traversal exploits

2007-07-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
J.C. Roberts wrote on Fri, Jun 29, 2007 at 12:46:02PM -0700: > The unarj v2.43 archiver we have for use with clamav virus scanning does > not really work. The same is true for the newer 2.65 version released > by the author. The problem is unarj is unable to extract with paths, > hence it will o

Re: adaptec 2410sa raid card not reconized

2007-06-10 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Nick Holland wrote on Sat, Jun 09, 2007 at 10:56:20PM -0400: > luccio01 wrote: [...] >> And what do you think about stability of aac driver ? >> Because I read it is not a good idea to use it ... > > http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq12.html#aac > > do you care about your data? > do you feel lucky?

Re: Snapshots src/sys tarballs

2007-05-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Jimmy Mitchener wrote on Wed, May 30, 2007 at 09:51:02AM -0800: > Is there a reason snapshots do not currently come with a > src/sys.tar.gz as releases do? I would think this to be quite useful > for people wishing/requiring building their own kernels, and using > snapshots, as it would help to mi

Re: automated upgrade script

2007-05-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Jacob, Jacob Yocom-Piatt wrote on Sun, May 20, 2007 at 12:27:01PM -0500: > i expect that a number of you have scripts that automate most of the > upgrade procedure and i would like it very much if someone were willing > to share such a script. upgrading by hand a la the upgrade instructions

Re: Softupdates question

2007-05-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Daniel, Daniel Ouellet wrote on Tue, May 08, 2007 at 03:06:36PM -0400: > Unless you can have two different mount point to the same partition? > Never tried it and always assume it wouldn't be possible anyway. Then do not guess, but just try it! Some things are really easy to try out... ;-)

Re: Request for links to BSD adminstration docs

2007-03-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
J.C. Roberts wrote on Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 06:36:34AM -0700: > On Thursday 22 March 2007 22:08, Darrin Chandler wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 23, 2007 at 12:40:48AM -0400, Douglas Allan Tutty wrote: >>> Do you run the rebuild niced? >> I don't. I want it to be done as soon as possible. This makes very li

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-19 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Pawel, Pawel Jakub Dawidek schrieb am Mon, Mar 19, 2007 at 03:02:47PM +0100: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:38:05PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> So isn't it rather hypocritical to have a anti-Blob campaign, backed >> by projects which embrace the Blob? > So isn't it rather hypocritical to cla

Re: Symbols in a .so

2007-03-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Woodchuck wrote on Sun, Mar 18, 2007 at 10:10:46PM -0400: > Hadn't noticed that readelf thing before. No man page. You seem to have a point. > Hmmm. Smells gnuish... Don't blame the missing man page on the GNU. It is being built, but it is not being installed. Index: gnu/usr.bin/binutils/Ma

Re: No Blob without Puffy

2007-03-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Karel, Karel Kulhavy wrote on Sat, Mar 17, 2007 at 10:38:11AM +0100: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 12:38:05PM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote: >> Someone asked: >>> Is it true that Puffy is not here because of Theo's concerns >>> about his copyrighted Puffy logo? >>> http://misc.allbsd.de/Kampagnen/NoB

Re: Contradictory statement on vulnerability

2007-03-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Karel Kulhavy wrote on Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 09:04:50PM +0100: > On Fri, Mar 16, 2007 at 01:33:36PM +0100, Vincent GROSS wrote: >> ok, I'll try to be clear : [...] >> so, in term of patching, >> release + errata = stable and >> release < stable < current > > Thanks, this is a much better expl

Re: updating installed ports

2007-03-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Peter schrieb am Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:08:30PM -0500: > Le Vendredi 9 Mars 2007 18:24, Joachim Schipper a icrit : >> On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 06:05:58PM -0500, Peter wrote: >> >>> On 4.0, besides uninstalling ports, updating the ports tree, and >>> re-installing is there any other way to do this?

Re: PKG_PATH pain

2007-03-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Peter, > I have a local FTP server that contains many packages. > When doing an install I want my pc to first check this server > before going onto the net. Why would you want to do that? This might be a bad idea in the first place. Suppose you got some package from a public mirror, and after

Re: no controlling tty error

2007-02-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> sh: No controlling tty (open /dev/tty: Permission denied) > sh: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied Did you tighten up any permissions? # cd /dev; ls -al tty null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel2, 2 Feb 26 22:29 null crw-rw-rw- 1 root wheel1, 0 Feb 26 22:25 tty

Re: [OT] Need a OpenBSD "Rock solid" aka "concrete" server?

2007-02-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> http://daemons.gr/photos/stable-server/ > This concrete got in the Simulation Lab of NTUA through a hole > in the wall (hole for network). There was over 30cm of solid > concrete all over the lab... Even though it's well-known that remote exploits are usually conducted via network connections a

Re: Adding SWAP in fstab?

2007-02-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Sunnz wrote on Fri, Feb 23, 2007 at 03:14:54PM +1100: > Sorry for the n00bish question, but I noticed that the swap partition > created during the installation wasn't defined in /etc/fstab. > Now, am I supposed to add it myself or is it necessarily at all? (wd0b) See swapctl(8): Note: The init

Re: fstab man page question

2007-02-21 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Greg, Greg Thomas wrote on Wed, Feb 21, 2007 at 05:16:35PM -0800: > This has been bugging me for a couple of days, and I can't figure out > if I'm missing something or the fstab (or another) man page is. As fstab(5) does not explain any options except the generic ones rw ro sw xx

driver maintenance problems

2007-02-14 Thread Ingo Schwarze
*.html free_drivers.html: be good to have so that debugging doesn't have to be done by email, [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ grep -i fix free_drivers*.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ grep -i update free_drivers*.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ grep -i security free_drivers*.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] $

Re: "sh checkflist" after "make release" of 4.0-stable gives starnge result.

2007-02-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
The short version is: /usr/src/distrib/sets/lists/base/mi seems to be out of sync for 4.0-stable since Feb. 4. The long version is: Didier Wiroth wrote on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 01:29:28PM +0100: > I made a 4.0-stable "make release" on the amd64 architecture. > Running "sh checkflist" gives th

Re: linux emulation without redhat_base

2007-02-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Karel, Karel Kulhavy wrote on Tue, Feb 13, 2007 at 11:21:19AM +0100: > Now I avoided the NTPL problem by removing the redhat base and > copying only the libraries that printed an error that it wants > them. No comment whether this is a good or a bad idea. In case you get lost in the Linux lib

Re: SUDO=sudo in mk.conf can't use it

2007-01-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Didier, Didier Wiroth wrote on Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 10:52:04AM +0100: > I can't "make build" with: > nice make SUDO=sudo build > or > nice make SUDO=/usr/bin/sudo build > > My mk.conf has the following entries: > SUDO=/usr/bin/sudo You need not state the same thing twice. If you define SUDO

binpatch, was: moving kernels...

2007-01-06 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Marcos Laufer wrote on Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 11:03:10AM -0300: > From: "Tasmanian Devil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> http://openbsdbinpatch.sourceforge.net/ :-) > Wow, that openbsdbinpatch looks pretty good! I 've just downloaded it > and the idea of making binary patches in order to easily copy them t

Re: SUN Fire x2200, anyone?

2007-01-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Toni Mueller wrote on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 10:50:01PM +0100: > On Thu, 04.01.2007 at 22:04:34 +0100, Marc Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> @toni: as you might guess, the "hardware raid" of the nforce chipset >> doesn't work as hardware raid (except under w2k3 with the driver and >> maybe und

Re: Wondering about usage of /usr/bin v /usr/local/bin...

2007-01-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Craig Skinner wrote on Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 12:14:32PM +: > On Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 08:56:54PM +0100, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> >> For example, on one small LAN with about 50 active users, i called >> that place /usr/usta: > > What does usta stand for? Oh, that

Re: Wondering about usage of /usr/bin v /usr/local/bin...

2007-01-03 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Dave, Dave Ewart wrote on Wed, Jan 03, 2007 at 01:32:04PM +: > I'm fairly new to OpenBSD right now and at the stage where I'm > trying to understand the differences between what I've been used > to in the past (typically Debian) and OpenBSD. Welcome. :-) > One thing I'm curious about is

Re: "Stock" fstab

2007-01-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Karl O. Pinc wrote on Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 09:11:12PM +: > Is the "stock" fstab documented anywhere? That is, > the fstab that you get if you use the recommended > partitions that the install program sets up for you. The comments in the install script are nice to read: less /usr/src/distrib/m

Re: upgraded to current - need bnx firmware?

2006-12-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
George C wrote on Wed, Dec 27, 2006 at 04:53:43PM -0500: > I had a 4.0-release install right from the cd pack. That's fine, indeed. :-) > I extracted the source from the cd and then updated it to -current > (both /usr/src and /usr/src/sys). then i built the new kernel, This is not the safest

Re: upgraded to current - need bnx firmware?

2006-12-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Ryan Flannery wrote on Tue, Dec 26, 2006 at 07:26:59PM -0500: > On 12/26/06, George C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I just upgraded my 4.0 system to -current (GENERIC.MP), You mean, before that, you had a 4.0-release or -stable system? Just a wild guess since you explicitely mention the kernel: D

Re: Disable IPv6 on OpenBSD 4.0

2006-12-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Jason Dixon wrote on Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 03:17:01PM -0500: > On Dec 17, 2006, at 2:51 PM, carlopmart wrote: >> Yes, my security staff orders to disable IPv6 protocol >> on all our firewalls ... > Your security staff is clueless. > I bet they like to block icmp echo-request too. If they really f

Re: cvs usage question

2006-12-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
James Turner wrote on Sun, Dec 17, 2006 at 12:13:07AM -0500: > On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> James Turner wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:28:43PM -0500: >>> jcs@ suggested looking at loginfo in CVSROOT, but I haven't had much luck >>> there. I a

Re: cvs usage question

2006-12-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
James Turner wrote on Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 11:28:43PM -0500: > jcs@ suggested looking at loginfo in CVSROOT, but I haven't had much luck > there. I added "^webapp cd /var/www/webapp && cvs update -d" but there > seems to be a locking issue, I'm guessing cvs update tries to run before > the comm

Re: SFTP only access to sshd

2006-11-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Jim Razmus wrote on Sun, Nov 26, 2006 at 07:41:42PM -0500: > Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [061125 18:51]: >> Jim Razmus wrote: >>> Anyone have a clever hack to get sftp chroot'ed too? >> >> In my original post to this thread, i mentioned

Re: ldconfig trap

2006-11-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Karel Kulhavy wrote on Mon, Nov 27, 2006 at 12:03:34PM +0100: > If someone comes to OpenBSD from Linux he is likely to fall into > a nasty trap in OpenBSD. He runs "ldconfig" without any arguments > after compiling some program as he was used to on Linux. This will > destroy his linker cache and

Re: SFTP only access to sshd

2006-11-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> Anyone have a clever hack to get sftp chroot'ed too? In my original post to this thread, i mentioned http://sublimation.org/scponly/wiki Disclaimed: I neither tested nor audited scponly. A port has just been submitted to ports@ (not by me).

Re: SFTP only access to sshd

2006-11-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Damien Miller wrote on Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 12:04:15PM +1100: > On Thu, 23 Nov 2006, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > >> From time to time, people come here to ask: >> How can i set up an account for SFTP only, forbidding shell access? >> >> One common answer is scponly,

SFTP only access to sshd

2006-11-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
the shell for the account in question. Note that just setting the shell to /sbin/nologin or /usr/bin/false, which is a common solution for FTP only, does not work for SFTP only because sshd(8) will spawn `$SHELL -c /usr/libexec/sftp-server` when contacted by sftp(1). # Ingo Schwarze 2006. Public dom

Re: CPU selection

2006-11-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Perhaps you missed that Nick was talking about a pair of carp'ed firewalls. Failure of one machine means *no* downtime. Besides, firewalls rarely need to store any valuable data, almost by definition. Alexander Lind wrote on Thu, Nov 02, 2006 at 05:27:00PM -0800: > Now you're talking crazy. Th

Re: specified device does not match mounted device

2006-10-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Here is a late afterthought... I wrote on Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:36:38PM +0200: >> Karel Kulhavy wrote: >>> I tried to mount a CD-ROM twice: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mount /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom >>> mount_ffs: /dev/cd0c on /mnt/cdrom: \ >>> specified device does not match mounted device As soon

Re: Is there a "deluser" equivalent in OpenBSD?

2006-10-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Leonardo Rodrigues wrote on Sun, Oct 29, 2006 at 01:45:15PM -0300: > Though, it seems a bit strange that OpenBSD lacks something like that. Look at it from a different perspective: There are other operating systems out there featuring thousands of lines of complicated scripts just to ensure that

Re: Is there a "deluser" equivalent in OpenBSD?

2006-10-29 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Nick Guenther wrote on Sat, Oct 28, 2006 at 11:21:40PM -0400: > On 10/28/06, Leonardo Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Actually, it wouldn't be practical to manually edit /etc/group. [...] >> Also, er, call me dumb, but after rereading usermod(8), I really see >> no way to explicitly remove

Re: OpenBSD 4.0 - Where is it?

2006-10-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
ICMan wrote on Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 09:16:07AM -0400: > I admit that I am not the most up to date on the release process, > but why is 4.0 not out on the FTP server yet if people are receiving > it in their homes on CD? It is not yet released, in particular, any required errata may not yet be comp

Re: Dell 2650 with unsupported Adaptec PERC 3/Di RAID controller?

2006-10-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Nick Holland wrote on Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 04:05:20PM -0400: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> This might make it yet into some FAQ... :-/ > > been there for quite some time, actually: >http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq12.html#aac Oooops. Put my foot in it. Even though the quality

Re: Dell 2650 with unsupported Adaptec PERC 3/Di RAID controller?

2006-10-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
This might make it yet into some FAQ... :-/ K Kadow wrote on Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 08:47:06PM -0500: > I've inherited a half dozen Dell PowerEdge 2650s with the PERC 3/Di > Adaptec RAID controllers, mostly running old OpenBSD with the 'aac' > RAID controller enabled. > > I'd like to put as little

Re: [OT, rant and despair] Re: More ammunition for the Blob fight

2006-10-22 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Matthias Kilian wrote on Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 09:14:01PM +0200: > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 04:13:44PM -0500, Robby Workman wrote: >> Linux: NVIDIA Binary Graphics Driver Exploit >> http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228 >> http://www.rapid7.com/advisories/R7-0025.jsp > > Yes, and really scares me are the

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-18 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Bambero wrote on Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 10:36:15PM +0200: > open source community answer: > http://www.petitiononline.com/nvfoss/petition.html Did you take the time to actually read that? It asks for source code (instead of documentation) and calls the current solution implemented by Nvidia "the b

Re: pgt-Driver in 4.0-Beta (installed 2 weeks ago) buggy?

2006-10-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Michael Scheliga wrote on Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 05:47:30PM -0700: > You consistently prove the need to skip over your messages, > it's not just the devs that are tired of reading your strange > conclusions. So just killfile him, for *s sake, as i did long ago. Quite possibly, he is not trolling on

Re: blobs are bad

2006-10-17 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Theo de Raadt wrote on Tue, Oct 17, 2006 at 05:30:53PM -0600: > I just wanted to say... "Told you so". After reading the Rapid7 exploit, i just wanted to make sure we are not running this stuff. Of course, none of our servers has Nvidia graphics, but some of the workstations do. And guess what?

Re: UPS just delivered the 4.0 release CD-set

2006-10-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Sigfred Heversen wrote on Fri, Oct 13, 2006 at 09:14:42PM +0200: > On Friday 13 October 2006 20:22, Stefan Klein wrote: >> Just a shy question - if version 4 CDs have been shipped already, >> there *should* be a downloadable version laying around somewhere, >> shouldn't it ? > Those pre-ordering

Re: UPS just delivered the 4.0 release CD-set

2006-10-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> "Wim, where's my package!", Please refrain from Vandeputte-bashing... =;-) =;-) First, he is a very nice guy, second, we still need him, third, he is just moving (see http://www.kd85.com/) and certainly has enough trouble to put up with, anyway, and finally, OpenBSD distribution works fine al

Re: Oldest Server you run

2006-10-12 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> We're trying to put an old server to good use again and would > like to know what's exactly the oldest machine running OpenBSD? As most others started out on the details, i will start with the generalities: Unless you have special needs or you must serve some large or very busy network, taking w

Re: Letter to OLPC

2006-10-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
riticism voiced by Siju and others does not only apply to several situations in general, but it does indeed appear to apply to this particular project. :-( Small wonder the project exhibits other flaws, too, when even this central aspect has been screwed up... -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Letter to OLPC

2006-10-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Kian Mohageri wrote on Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 04:46:41PM -0700: > On 10/5/06, Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> The structure of the OpenBSD project suggests that this project >> might be able to resist better than others. It is no company. >> It is no charit

Re: Letter to OLPC

2006-10-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Bob Beck wrote on Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 03:47:14PM -0600: > Theo de Raadt wrote: >> In a private reply to my initial mail Jim Gettys (OLPC / Red Hat) said: >>> Free and open software is a means to an end, rather than the >>> sole end unto itself for OLPC. >> I was totally stunned by this admission

Re: "make release" DESTDIR question

2006-10-05 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Didier Wiroth wrote on Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 03:22:32PM +0200: > To do a "make release", you have to set a DESTDIR variable. > Can the DESTDIR be in the /usr/obj directory, like: /usr/obj/DESTDIR > or should this be avoided? This will be OK (though it doesn't look like a natural choice). The only

Re: Looking for HowTo instructions ...

2006-10-04 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Marian, Marian Hettwer wrote on Wed, Oct 04, 2006 at 11:08:11AM +0200: > Ingo Schwarze wrote: >> I doubt the project is worth the effort at all. >> Whatever numbers might result will be heavily biased. To clarify: As far as i understood, BSDstats intends to measure the number

Re: Looking for HowTo instructions ...

2006-10-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Marc G. Fournier wrote on Sun, Oct 01, 2006 at 10:28:34PM -0300: > Can someone that has installed BSDstats on your server please email > me instructions on *how* to install it for your flavor of BSD? I doubt the project is worth the effort at all. Whatever numbers might result will be heavily bias

Re: man rcd missing

2006-10-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Karel Kulhavy wrote on Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 08:52:00AM +0200: > cd (4) talks about /dev/rcd, but if I do man rcd, I get > man: no entry for rcd in the manual. > I think rcd should symlink to cd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ ls /dev/r* | sed 's/[01-9].*//' | uniq /dev/radio /dev/raid /dev/random /dev/rccd /

Re: Intel and Licensing

2006-10-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
marrandy wrote on Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 11:56:44AM -0400: [...] > The key component is that source should be open. > If you can't provide source then API's have to be open In similar arguments, it might even be better to argue just the other way round: Please provide hardware and firmware document

Re: specified device does not match mounted device

2006-10-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
This question was actually fun for learning more about mount - and about the kernel code involved. =:c) Fred Crowson wrote on Mon, Oct 02, 2006 at 10:31:24AM +0200: > Karel Kulhavy wrote: >> I tried to mount a CD-ROM twice: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ mount /dev/cd0c /mnt/cdrom >> mount_ffs: /dev/cd

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-09-02 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Gilbert Fernandes wrote on Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 11:59:57AM +0200: > I have a dream. A dream of unification. Having one BSD. > Merging the three projects and, why not, keeping incompatible > stuff as options that would be either one or another. Horrors! Options are mostly against the goals of Op

Re: The future of NetBSD

2006-08-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
ree project fail, whatever may have happened in the past. Even if there is some competition among various projects, one's loss rarely is anybody else's win, when free software is concerned. Ok, i'm not a developer; so i shall go back to lurking now. -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Serverbetrieb usta.de / studis.de

Re: bug in ksh ?

2006-08-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> Please now try `if ! false; then echo true; fi`. > Why does my shell eat muchos CPU & RAM after such a short pipeline? [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ uname -a OpenBSD idefix 3.9 GENERIC#617 i386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ /bin/ksh $ date Mon Aug 28 01:28:07 CEST 2006 $ if ! false; then echo true; fi true $ date

Re: sysctl modifications during install?

2006-08-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Woodchuck schrieb am Sun, Aug 27, 2006 at 03:19:38AM -0400: > On Sat, 26 Aug 2006, Edd Barrett wrote: >> On 25/08/06, Matthew R. Dempsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> On Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 05:38:19AM +1000, Scott Radvan wrote: Or am I missing something which could allow the install to use

Re: questions about cvs and patches

2006-08-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Moin Joerch, > The new patches on the main ftpserver have > all the date 24.8.06, the patches themself > contain different dates, like 9.8.06 I assume you are referring to the times when the fixes were committed to 3.9-stable: +++ gnu/usr.sbin/sendmail/sendmail/main.c 8 Aug 2006 20:20:42

Re: ntpd_flags="" (?)

2006-08-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Dear Default User, Default User wrote on Fri, Aug 25, 2006 at 07:48:02PM -0500: > Just installed i386 3.9 RELEASE. > Noticed that /etc/rc.conf.local contains: > > ntpd_flags= # enabled during install > > man 8 ntpd says that /etc/rc.conf.local should contain: > > ntpd_flags="" > > Is

Re: How to update httpd without a compiller

2006-08-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Tomas, Tomas wrote on Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 09:18:26AM +0300: > Han Boetes wrote: >> Tomas wrote: > Thank you very much, I think that's the way I will do it :) Then do it very carefully! I see at least one trap you might stumble into... > It's quicker then compilling all the release... Proba

Binary system updates, was: Why no compiler...

2006-08-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Siju, > I 'll stop installing compilers Still a bad idea IMHO, but this has been discussed to death. > when OpenBSD incorporates binary system updates ;-) Please, don't bug the developers about that. They have explained several times why their time is better put elsewhere. Please also note

Re: can not prioritize the "main" swap device in fstab

2006-08-20 Thread Ingo Schwarze
blems with a custom kernel, most people won't even try to help you because they assume you have just broken your kernel. As far as i understand config(8) and boot_config(8), you cannot modify the swap device used by an existing kernel after typing 'boot -c' at the boot prompt or `config -e -o /bsd.new /bsd` from the running system. Yours, Ingo -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: OT hardware IDE RAID cards

2006-08-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
t least one of them commented on it, recently... You will easily find their postings in the archives. Jaye - thanks for your feedback on ATA vs. SCSI. I was not aware my experience might no more be up to date. If this is the case, i hope nobody will start a flame war about it. -- Ingo Schwa

Re: OT hardware IDE RAID cards

2006-08-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
vendors actually try and fix it, but it is expensive. ATA is designed to be cheap. You can run a cheap system with a moderate level of reliabilty using ATA, but don't expect much. Yours, Ingo -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Easy for a newbie to manage an OpenBSD server?

2006-08-01 Thread Ingo Schwarze
a patches correctly when needed. Yours, Ingo -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> usta.de / studis.de sysop

Re: Ye Olde Binary Patching Question

2006-06-30 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Dylan Martin wrote on Fri, Jun 30, 2006 at 11:38:45AM -0700: > I've got a handful of OpenBSD boxes, and instead of keeping src on > all of them, I'd like one box to follow stable and build patched > programs which I could then distribute to my other boxes. Two ways are officially supported: -

Re: lightweight openbsd

2006-06-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Ted Unangst wrote on Mon, Jun 26, 2006 at 01:10:34PM -0700: > On 6/26/06, Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Actually I need a system with perl, pf and some tiny http server >>> for cgi scripts. I suppose that it is possible to fit it on a 32mb >>>

Re: lightweight openbsd

2006-06-26 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Artyom, > Actually I need a system with perl, pf and some tiny http server > for cgi scripts. I suppose that it is possible to fit it on a 32mb > disk? Am I wrong? Yes, you are quite wrong. [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ uname -a OpenBSD athene.usta.de 3.9 GENERIC#617 i386 [EMAIL PROTECTED] $ du -sk /us

Re: lightweight openbsd

2006-06-24 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Artyom, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sat, Jun 24, 2006 at 10:04:11PM +0300: > Where can I find any info concerning the purpose of every file in OpenBSD? > I am trying to make it smaller by deleting unuseful files. I read man and > then deside whether I need it or not. After deleting a dozen of f

Re: Filesystem using tags, not folders?

2006-06-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
mal content wrote on Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 07:55:30PM +0100: > On 11/06/06, Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://del.icio.us/help/tags > Seems to me that this would just be a simple manager interface > built over the existing filesystem. No need to change t

Re: Filesystem using tags, not folders?

2006-06-11 Thread Ingo Schwarze
mal content wrote Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 07:27:38PM +0100: > On 09/06/06, Kyrre Nygard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> After noticing how much simpler it is using tags, for instance >> with my bookmarks at http://del.icio.us -- compared to hours of >> frustration trying find the right combination of f

Re: [4.0 release] PR event

2006-06-08 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Craig Skinner wrote on Thu, Jun 08, 2006 at 10:22:16PM +0100: > If you are like me, you are probably pondering how the milestone > OpenBSD 4.0 release should be launched in the public eye. Hardly. Maybe i shall be interested in the code once it is written. Would you mind taking the whole thread

Re: Dell CERC SATA 1.5/6ch support?

2006-06-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
d enough without proper documentation. This is not wrong, but you are flattering these Adaptec devices more than they deserve. > So use it at your own risk. Rather, do not use it unless reliability is not an issue for your purpose. Hope that helps, Ingo -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> usta.de / studis.de sysop

Re: Multi-step upgrade failed

2006-05-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Craig Skinner wrote on Sat, May 27, 2006 at 07:13:27PM +0100: > On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 02:32:20PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote: > >> If the machine you are talking about is in any way important and >> if you want to be reasonably sure it will work reliably, you are >> prob

Multi-step upgrade failed, was: Error in pkg_add

2006-05-27 Thread Ingo Schwarze
rade... :-( Yours, Ingo P.S. I would be rather surprised if your problem were related to any bug in the pkg_* tools. -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Can't install gd-2.0.33p2: lib not found freetype.13.1

2006-05-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Craig, > So @wantlib are in base sets then? Well, no. Look again at the output you posted: # pkg_info -f gd-2.0.33p2.tgz | egrep "(depend|wantlib)" @depend converters/libiconv:libiconv-*:libiconv-1.9.2p3 @depend graphics/jpeg:jpeg-*:jpeg-6bp3 @depend graphics/png:png-*:png-1.2.8 @wantlib c

Re: Can't install gd-2.0.33p2: lib not found freetype.13.1

2006-05-25 Thread Ingo Schwarze
ackaging problem. In case this reply helps you, you were lucky enough to miss a rather lengthy and boring thread discussing the dependency of gd on X to death. It died about yesterday. ;-) Yours, Ingo -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: OpenBSD alternative for Bruce Schneier's "password safe"

2006-05-07 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Siju George wrote on Sat, May 06, 2006 at 09:31:39AM +0530: > On 5/6/06, Bob Beck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> somebody asked: >>> How do you people store passwords in OpenBSD if you have so many of >>> them and would need to copy one of them to a password prompt while >>> others are aroud you wa

Re: OpenBSD 3.9 stable from cvs

2006-04-13 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi Nick, Nick Holland wrote on Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 09:24:29PM -0400: > Ted Unangst wrote: > >> yeah, except i think what nick was getting at was that upgrading >> via source is going to be bad, upgrading via sets is easy. > > yeah, and one of these days, Nick will learn what everyone else > has

Re: sudo nopasswd rm

2006-03-28 Thread Ingo Schwarze
unlink(2) as needed. You might either install this program SGID to a dedicated group or configure sudo in order to run it. It depends on your particular task whether this alternative is less error-prone, more to the point or just overkill. In any case, all this is hardly OpenBSD specific. -- Ingo Schwarze <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.usta.de/

Re: Bank transfers for donating

2006-03-23 Thread Ingo Schwarze
> So we have setup a bank account, and people can use the following > information for IBAN and SWIFT/BIC transfers: > http://www.openbsd.org/bank-donation.html Thanks! This is quite useful from a European point of view. The sentence "Payment should be made within 30 days after the invo

binpatch, was: Spam (solutions) and [...]

2006-03-16 Thread Ingo Schwarze
Hi, Gabriel George POPA wrote on Thu, Mar 16, 2006 at 05:26:01PM +0200: > 4) I've heard about binpatch and I've tried to use it once > (I must apply some security/reliability patches here). > For me it's impractical to recompile the entire system You need not recompile the entire system in order

Re: Why packets are not blocked

2006-03-09 Thread Ingo Schwarze
man tcpdump && tcpdump -tttner /var/log/pflog Harry Putnam wrote on Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 12:39:02PM -0600: > "Jim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > You are getting good commentary already so I'm asking a lamer noob > about how you got the output below. tcpdump? [...] >> Mar 07 20:30:43.516434

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